Qasim bhai مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 (ترمیم شدہ) D.I. pakistan kay mojoda ameer Hazrat Moulana Iliyas qadri sahab hay un ho nay aik tag banaya jis per geebat na karnay k likha hay or geebat karnay walay ko jahanumi karar dia hay...... ya tag moulana ki targeeb per sab mureedo nay khariday or apnay galay may dalay....... kay abb hum geebat nahi karay gay lakin Baralvi hazrat uthtay baithtay Ahalaysunnut Masluk deoband kay khilaaf geebat per geebat kartay rehtay hai es forum per saray topic esi per hay.....es lihaz se es forum per joo bhi geebat hori hay woo jhannumi hooooooooo gayaaaaaaaaaaaaaa .......... Edited 29 جنوری 2010 by Qasim bhai اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sag e Madinah مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Qasim Sb.zara tausab ke ainak utar kar daikhiyay tu aap ko kuch samjh b aay.. Zara ghaibat ke taareef bata dejiyay??? Kya koi aisa shakhs ho jo Huzoor(saw) k ilm ko Naoz o Billah haiwanu k ilm say tashbeeh day,us k khilaf bat karnay ko aap gheebat kehtay hain??? Is tarah ke fuzool batain aap apnay paas rakhain tu acha hay... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qasim bhai مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Qasim Sb.zara tausab ke ainak utar kar daikhiyay tu aap ko kuch samjh b aay.. Zara ghaibat ke taareef bata dejiyay??? Kya koi aisa shakhs ho jo Huzoor(saw) k ilm ko Naoz o Billah haiwanu k ilm say tashbeeh day,us k khilaf bat karnay ko aap gheebat kehtay hain??? Is tarah ke fuzool batain aap apnay paas rakhain tu acha hay... Tasub pasandi se tu app kam laitay hay esi liay tu sara ka sara forum gair barlvion kay khilaaf bahra howa hay... gheebat ki tarif apnay peer or mursheed se pochiay phlay phir may app ko bato gaa..... ok. dosri baat app sirf geebat hee nahi bhotan bhi laga rahay app ko pata hay bhotan laganay ki saza kia hoti agar hakiki islami hokomat hoti ap ko kitnay koray maray jatay ... kab tak jhootay ilzamat lagtay raho gay kam tak gair baralvioo ki geebat kartay rahoo gay اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibn e hakeem مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 bhai in bay aqlon say kahan tareef poochh li ager inhay tareef karna aati to ham sab k mohsin Aqa ki tareef hi nahi kr letay or karletay to tmam tareefen (shriq biddat or ghibat ) ki ba fezan e Aqa aajati. bay aqal log اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qasim bhai مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 app tu phlay tu phlay tum kay chakar may par jao gay jisay k dosri aik topic per hora hay ...... hadees kay zariay mulahiza kijiay... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sag e Madinah مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 (ترمیم شدہ) Janab mujhay tu aap ke halat par taras aa raha hay really.Kash keh aap k dil main thora sa b Ishq e Rasool(saw) hota tu aap aisi bat he na kartay. Buhtan ka lafz aap nay kaha hay tu is ka saboot dain janab???? Main wait kar raha hon aap ka??? Ab yeh b bata de jiyay keh kya hum deogandion wahhabion say chup kar kya batain kar rahay?????This is an open forum.Anyone can visit and reply here.Aap deogandion k forum main jayn wahan b aa p ko aisa mwad azar aay ga.Kya aap ko woh log nazar nahi aatay????Aap k nazdeek gustakh e Rasool(saw)ke har bat ko chup kar k suntay jana chahihay???? G Ibn e Hakeem Bhai aap nay bilkul theek farmaya hay....Jazak ALLAH o Ahsan Edited 29 جنوری 2010 by Sag e Madinah اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qasim bhai مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 bhai in bay aqlon say kahan tareef poochh li ager inhay tareef karna aati to ham sab k mohsin Aqa ki tareef hi nahi kr letay or karletay to tmam tareefen (shriq biddat or ghibat ) ki ba fezan e Aqa aajati. bay aqal log sari akal tu Allah ne app logo ko day rakhi hay .... Hazoor saw ki arr lay kar kab tak logo ko baywakoof bano gay.... sab jantay hai Ishai Essa ko hadh se chatay hai lakin unki chahat ALLAH ko kabol nahi zara apnay upar bhi kabhi gor kar lay na tumhari chat ALLAH KO kabool hogi.... or hoz-e-kosar per Rasool saw se asay logo ko dooor nahi kardia jiay gaa jis nay apni marzi ki chizy deen may ijad ki yani bidatay ijad ki...or usay bara sawab or bidatay husana ka naam dia... woo kon loog hongay zahir se bat hay biddat ijad karnay walay.... or dunia janti hay deen may nai nai rasmay ijad kis ne ki or usay sawab ka darja dia.... phir us per bhi bas nahi kia fitna angaz chiz tv ko lay ja kar masjido may rakh dia or es ko bara sawab zahir karnay lagay.... khuda ra masjido ko tu tv se baksh daitay....chalo daikh loo apnay mursheed ki tasveer tv may bhi lakin masjido ko es fitnay se azad karooo...... kia hogia hay tum joo kam karoo woo bara sawab or deeni kaam ban jata hai . اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sag e Madinah مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Ain wain sirf baton say kaam nahi chalay ga Janab!~!!!KOi bat proof say karo.Humain aap k taraf say abhi tak kisi qism ke ilmi bat nahi mili.Just time wastin... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qasim bhai مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 (ترمیم شدہ) Janab mujhay tu aap ke halat par taras aa raha hay really.Kash keh aap k dil main thora sa b Ishq e Rasool(saw) hota tu aap aisi bat he na kartay. Buhtan ka lafz aap nay kaha hay tu is ka saboot dain janab???? Main wait kar raha hon aap ka??? Ab yeh b bata de jiyay keh kya hum deogandion wahhabion say chup kar kya batain kar rahay?????This is an open forum.Anyone can visit and reply here.Aap deogandion k forum main jayn wahan b aa p ko aisa mwad azar aay ga.Kya aap ko woh log nazar nahi aatay????Aap k nazdeek gustakh e Rasool(saw)ke har bat ko chup kar k suntay jana chahihay???? G Ibn e Hakeem Bhai aap nay bilkul theek farmaya hay....Jazak ALLAH o Ahsan haan sara Ishaq-e-Rassol saaw tu app baralvis kay andar chala gaya .... kab tak dhokay may rehaoo gay .. or dosro ko rakho gay.... tum jis ki gheebat kartay hoo usay bola kar us kay samnay baat kartay hooo.... deobandi agar galut karay gay tu app bhi wo hee galtia karo gay, tag latka laynay se kuch nahi hota ammli toor per us ka muzahaira karooo... Edited 29 جنوری 2010 by Qasim bhai اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qasim bhai مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Ain wain sirf baton say kaam nahi chalay ga Janab!~!!!KOi bat proof say karo.Humain aap k taraf say abhi tak kisi qism ke ilmi bat nahi mili.Just time wastin... Ilmi baat ilm walo kay sath ki jati hay ...gheebat se amali toor per bachoo fazool card per paisay kharach mut karooo.... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sag e Madinah مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Ilmi baat ilm walo kay sath ki jati hay ...gheebat se amali toor per bachoo fazool card per paisay kharach mut karooo.... Aap ke koi bat aisi nahi keh jis ka jawab dia jay.Abhi tak aap nay meri kisi bat ka jawba nahi dia aur na he GHEEBAT ke taareef k mutabiq aap is open forum ko GHEEBTI FORUM sabit kar sakay ho aur Insha Allah kabhi kar b na sako gay... Aur buhtan ke bat tu aap SHEER E MADAR ke tarah digest kar gay..Us ka jwab zara likh de jiyay....Sirf batain karnay say kaam nahi chalay ga Janab... Waitni for your positive reply.. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sag e Madinah مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 haan sara Ishaq-e-Rassol saaw tu app baralvis kay andar chala gaya ... tum jis ki gheebat kartay hoo usay bola kar us kay samnay baat kartay hooo.... deobandi agar galut karay gay tu app bhi wo hee galtia karo gay, tag latka laynay se kuch nahi hota ammli toor per us ka muzahaira karooo... Janab hum tu sab ko kehtay hain aur jaisa keh pehlay b araz kia keh yeh open forum main,yahan aa kar deogandi wahhabi b jawabat daitay hain,Shia b aatay hain aur aap jaisay .......b aatay hain. GHEEBAT ke definition say isay GHEEBAT sabit ke jiyay????Wagarna is tarah ke fuzool baton k liyay we r not free.... Agar aap kuch nahi kar saktay tu dosron par ilzam tarashi na kejiya... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghulam E Mustafa مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جنوری 2010 Qasim Sahab hum tu app logon ko nah apna bhai manty hein aur app logh tu Muslim kehlane ky laik bhi nahi kyon ki app mein say aksar ko apne Ghustakh Molvion ki Ghustakhion ka ilm hai mager phir bhi app logh Tooba nahi karty (Kaisy Karain ZAKAAT KHEIRAT jo milti hai aisy kaamon ki)... khair mein nahi samajhta ky app jaison ky baray mein Muslim Ummah ko agah karna gheebat hai iss liye hum tu yeh kaam tab tak jari rakhein gai jab tak iss duniya say akhri Ghustakh-e-Rasool khatam nahi ho jata InshaAllah. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qasim bhai مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Aap ke koi bat aisi nahi keh jis ka jawab dia jay.Abhi tak aap nay meri kisi bat ka jawba nahi dia aur na he GHEEBAT ke taareef k mutabiq aap is open forum ko GHEEBTI FORUM sabit kar sakay ho aur Insha Allah kabhi kar b na sako gay... Aur buhtan ke bat tu aap SHEER E MADAR ke tarah digest kar gay..Us ka jwab zara likh de jiyay....Sirf batain karnay say kaam nahi chalay ga Janab... Waitni for your positive reply.. Koe Khoof-e-Khuda hay ya nahi ???? Gheebat kay baray may upar 3 hadees post may shamil nazar nahi arahi kia woo gheebat ki tareef nahi hay ?? Kia Rasool saaw se bhar kar koe kiisi chiz kay baray may bata sakhta hay ??? phir tum koo woo hadees kay hawalay na kafi kion lag rahay hai ......... koe sharum o haya baki hay ya hathdharmi dikhatay rahoo gay sari zindgai ??? bus dosro ko kosna unki borai karna lan tan karna yahee tum logo ka kaam hain joo es forum per nazar araha Hazaro rupay kay Card sale karnay thay woo kardiay ammli tor per kuch nazar nahi araha maksad tu card baychna tha woo pora hogia.... abhi hadees tumharay liay gheebat ki sahi tarif nahi tu phir quran ki ayat or uski tafseer daikh loo.... app logo se dard mandana apeal hay es forum ko islami bano jaha islam kay baray may baat ho tablig hoo es ko gheebati forum bana kar mut rakh choro........... gheebat se bacho ammli tooor per sirf galay may card latkanay se kuch nahi hot....... abb ya khaina kay gair baralvi ki borai karna hamaray liay jaiz hogia hay tu ya koe extra hidayat tum logo ko mili hay jo quran or hadees se hath kar tumhay hidayatay milti hay kha se milti hay..... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qasim bhai مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Qasim Sahab hum tu app logon ko nah apna bhai manty hein aur app logh tu Muslim kehlane ky laik bhi nahi kyon ki app mein say aksar ko apne Ghustakh Molvion ki Ghustakhion ka ilm hai mager phir bhi app logh Tooba nahi karty (Kaisy Karain ZAKAAT KHEIRAT jo milti hai aisy kaamon ki)... khair mein nahi samajhta ky app jaison ky baray mein Muslim Ummah ko agah karna gheebat hai iss liye hum tu yeh kaam tab tak jari rakhein gai jab tak iss duniya say akhri Ghustakh-e-Rasool khatam nahi ho jata InshaAllah. aik na shood doo shood ........ app ki kami theee. maray pass bhi bohot sari kitabo kay ref. mojod hay kabhi apnay molvion ki kitabay utha kar bhi parh lay na doro ki aeeb joi may lagay rehtay ho gheebat may lagay rehtay aray tum logo ko zara bhi sharum nahi kay dosro per kufr kay fatway laga daitay hoooo........ ya konsi islaam ki khidmat hay kay musalmanoo ko kafir karar daitay chalay jaooo........ aray baywakofo agar deobandi, wahabhi , ahalayhaeeds kafir hotay or kufar karahay hotay OR asal muslim sirf baralvi hotay tu ajj pori dunia may chand lakh hee musalmaan hotay........... dosri baat Allah or uskay RASOOL SAAW kabhi ya bardashat kartay kay unkay gharo per kafir wahabion ka kabza hota .......ajj Makka or madina may kon loog baithay hai ............kabhi apni akal bhi istimal kar lia karoo har saal lakho loog wahabi bakol app kay kafir kay pichay haj kartay hai kuch sharum ati hay tum ko musalmanoo ko kafir khanay may........... hum tu ap ko musalman mantay hai agar kuch galtia hay tu woo ap ka or Allah ka mamla hay lakin tum loogo ne kalma tu nabi ka parha hay ........ esi tarha maray dost deobandi or wahabi ne kalma parha jo app loog parhtay hooo.......... Allah se sachay dil se toba karooo k musalmano kay baray may kabhi asay guman nahi karoo gay or hamisha acha socho kay acha karoo gay.......... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umm-e-Anwaar Raza مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Zara Ye Bhi Parh lain K ba Hukm e Hadeeth Jis ne haya Ka parda apnay Chahray Se Hataliya Us Ki Gheebat Nahi Or doosra Ye Bhi K Badmazhab ki Badaqeedgi Se agah Kerna Bhi jaiz hay. Mazeed Ye Bhi Bataiye K Deobandi Akabireen Apnay Zu'm e Fasid Men Ulama E Ahle Sunnat K Khilaf harza sarai Men lagay Rehtay hain Or sahih Ul Aqeeda Musalmanon Ko Mushrik o Bid'ati Qarar Denay Men raat Din Lagay Rehtay Hain Wo sab Kia Hay? Ager Wo Gheebat Nahi To yahan Badmazhabon Ki Haqeeqat Se Sada Loh Musalmanon Ko bachana Kesay Gheebat Hogya? Or Ye Bhi Bataiye K Buhtan kahan Or Kis pr lagaya gaya Hay? Jawab ka Intizar rahay ga... 1 اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qasim bhai مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Zara Ye Bhi Parh lain K ba Hukm e Hadeeth Jis ne haya Ka parda apnay Chahray Se Hataliya Us Ki Gheebat Nahi Or doosra Ye Bhi K Badmazhab ki Badaqeedgi Se agah Kerna Bhi jaiz hay. Mazeed Ye Bhi Bataiye K Deobandi Akabireen Apnay Zu'm e Fasid Men Ulama E Ahle Sunnat K Khilaf harza sarai Men lagay Rehtay hain Or sahih Ul Aqeeda Musalmanon Ko Mushrik o Bid'ati Qarar Denay Men raat Din Lagay Rehtay Hain Wo sab Kia Hay? Ager Wo Gheebat Nahi To yahan Badmazhabon Ki Haqeeqat Se Sada Loh Musalmanon Ko bachana Kesay Gheebat Hogya? Or Ye Bhi Bataiye K Buhtan kahan Or Kis pr lagaya gaya Hay? Jawab ka Intizar rahay ga... dawat -e- silami ki kitab kay pagelaganay ki zarorat nahi thee............ ya batao badmazhab ki badmazgi se agha karna jaiz kis ne kardia ? or yaaa badmazhab hotay kon loog hay ??? joo wo karay gay ap bhi karoo gay ? agar woo koe na-jiaz kam kartay tu jawab may app bhi na jaiz kam karo gay ......... deobandion ne tu card apnay galo may nahi dalay na poster lagiay ........ gheebat kay khilaaf tu app ne thereek chalai hoe hay app hee es ki khilaf warzi baray dhararlay se kar rahay hoooo.... woo jo kuch galut karahay bakol app logo kay woo unka or Allah ka Mamla hay agar app khud theek hojaoo tu app ko gila shikwa ki nobat nahi ayeay gee phlay khud theek ban kar dikhaoo phir dosro per unglia uthaooo........ joo baar baar tanay diay jarahay deobandion esa waisa kuch likha .. ya sab agar hota tu ALLAH tala apnay JALAL se deobandio wahabion tabha or barbad na karcukay hotay or ajj MAKKA OR MADINA may baralvis ki hokomat na hoti agar baralvi hee sab se achay musalman hay???? اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sag e Madinah مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 dawat -e- silami ki kitab kay pagelaganay ki zarorat nahi thee Qasim Sb.aap apnay JAMAY say zyada bahar ho gay hain.Pehlay tu hum aap ke bakwas suntay rahay hain laikan ab aap ka kuch karna he paray ga,,, Abhi tak tu tum GHEEBAT ke taareef say yeh sabit nahi kar sakay keh yahan jo ho raha hay woh GHEEBAT hay aur jab tak tumhari tarah k mad qism k banday zinda hain woh b Insha Allah is ko yeh sabit nahi kar sakain gay. Mujhay yeh batao keh humaray Pyaray Nabi e Pak(saw) k Zamana e Aqdas main kitnay kitnay Gustakh Laeen kafir mojood thay aur unhon nay kis kis tarah Humaray Nabi e Mukarram(saw)ko aziyatain deen.Laikan Allah Kareem nay Irshad Farmaya keh Ay Meray Pyraya Habeeb jab tak Aap in main mojood hain,ALLAH kabhi in lo Azab main mubtla nahi karay ga. Har bat main aik hikmat hoti hay.Laikan aap hain keh aap ulti batain,baseless assumptions,hypothesis sunai he ja rahay hain... Zara HIMMAT karo aur GHEEBAT ke definiton say is open forum ko Gheebat sabit karo... Abhi tak tum nay jo BUHTAN wali bat ke thee,us ka jwab tum nay abhi tak nahi dia... Mujhay yeh batao keh agar tumhain koi shakhs yeh kahay keh TUMHARAY PARENTS KAFIR(NON BELIEVERS)hain,tu tumhara kya response ho ga??? Agar Koi Shakhs Yeh kahay keh tumharay waldain CHUMAR say b zyada zaleel hain tu kya jawab do gay??? Zara himmat say jawab do.I m waitin for your reply.... And this time just dont give me your baseless theories and assumptions.....Give me proper,to the point,logical answer...... 1 اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sag e Madinah مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 app logo se dard mandana apeal hay es forum ko islami bano jaha islam kay baray may baat ho tablig hoo es ko gheebati forum bana kar mut rakh choro........... gheebat se bacho ammli tooor per sirf galay may card latkanay se kuch nahi hot....... abb ya khaina kay gair baralvi ki borai karna hamaray liay jaiz hogia hay tu ya koe extra hidayat tum logo ko mili hay jo quran or hadees se hath kar tumhay hidayatay milti hay kha se milti hay..... Aaj say 200 saal peechalu chalay jatay hain.Qasim Sb....Zara bataiyay ga keh kys kisi Shakhs ka aisa aqeeda tha,Keh Huzoor ko fulan cheez ka ilm tha ya nahi??? Huzoor(saw) Noor hain ya Nahi???? Nabi ka ilm Shaitan k ilm say kam hay..Naoz o Billah Nabi ko dewar k peechay ka ilm nahi hay....Naoz o Billah Jis k naam Ghulam Ali,ya Ghulam Rasool hon,woh sab kafir hain.... Is ka jawab day dejiyay.. Agar aap k pas humaray Mustnad Ulma e Karam ke aisi ibartain hain,tu ke Jiyay himmat aur aa jayn medan main,,,Insha Allah sab dhoodh ka dhoodh aur pani ka pani ho jay ga.. Yak Na Shud,Sab Shud....with a little change in your phrase..... Aap k aisay hawala jaat ka b Intizar hay Qasim Sb....Himmat kijiyay........ اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eccedentesiast مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 An answer from the Fatawa of Huzoor Tajusharia syedi Murshidi Mufti Akhtar Raza Khan Alazhari ..:- Indeed Gheebat (Back-biting) is Haram (unlawful) but the person seeking rule of Shariah needs to know the definition of 'Gheebat' & he needs as well to be aware of such condition in which 'Gheebat' is forbidden. Gheebat means fault finding and caviling a Muslim without any right of Shariah (legal right) either in his presence or absence verbally or by any means of indication or to make eyes at some one. Through this the person seeking the rule of Shariah can derive his answer. Now I come to elaborate the answer that Deobandisare no more Muslims because they have made derogatory remarks againstAllah & His Holy Messenger Sall Allahu Alaihi Wa Sallam & even they have refused many principles of Islam. For example, one of the leaders of Deobandis, Qasim Nanautavi claimsthat our beloved Prophet Sall Allahu Alaihi Wa Sallam is not the finalMessenger of Allah. In the very beginning of his book `Tahzir-un-Na`as` he declared, "This is the view of ordinary people (ignorant)to believe our be loved Prophet Sall Allahu Alaih Wa Sallam as finalMessenger of Allah and this is evident to the intelligentsia that beingprior or later in the period has no virtue. (Abridged)". He furthersays, "Suppose any other Prophet takes birth after Hazrat Muhammad(Sall Allahu Alaihi Wa Sallam), even then it will make no difference in the finality of Hazrat Muhammad Sall Allahu Alaih Wa Sallam". (Tahzir-un-Na`as). Whereas Allah has declared Hazrat Muhammad Sall Allahu alaihi Wa Sallam the final Prophet saying: `Khatam-un-Nabieen` i.e. the seal of the Prophets. From the beginning of Islam till this moment the ummah has admitted him the last & final Prophet of Allah. The leaders of Deobandis arenot only refusing one principle of Islam rather they refuse as well theconsensus of Ummah & even the Holy Quran. Therefore most of theUlama & knowledgeable theologians of Arab and non Arabs have issuedthe verdict unanimously regarding them that, "he who doubts in their infidelity & visitation for them is certainly Kaffir!" Thus we see that Deobandies have been declared apostates. I have presented here only one example of insolenceand blasphemous chattering of the leaders of Deobandies in thesanctified court of Allah?s last & beloved Prophet Sall AllahuAlaihi Wa Sallam otherwise, there are much more such examplesof derogatory remarks which they have made against Allah & HisProphet Sall Allahu Alaihi Wa Sallam. Before ending the answer I wouldlike to ask the questioner, If you complaint against the person forthis tyranny or file a suit against the oppressor or ask the rule ofSharia about such a person. Would you consider this action tobebackbiting? Let me know if you want to make a person be aware of a man and it depends on given him some particulars like blind, deaf, lame etc.Would you call it a back biting? Like wise if you want some body toprotect him from a cruel. Would you name talking about him a backbiting? I know well that you have to say in all these conditions "NO". NowI have elaborated all the conditions in which the back biting isallowed in other words it would not be regarded as back biting.Similarly you can think, talking about "Deobandies" and you can realise that it does not come under the forbidden back biting. Wallahu Ta`ala Aalam. (Fatawa by Mufti Mohammed Akhtar Raza Khan Azhari) 1 اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umm-e-Anwaar Raza مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جنوری 2010 joo wo karay gay ap bhi karoo gay ? agar woo koe na-jiaz kam kartay tu jawab may app bhi na jaiz kam karo gay Ji Nahi Alhamdulillah ham Apnay sahih Sunni Aqeeday Per qaim hain Or InshaAllah Mertay dam tak Rahain Gay,BadAqeeda Logon Ko Apni BadAqeedgi Mubarak Ho.....Ham Sirf Un K baray Men Apnay Muslaman behan Bhaiyon Ko Muttala Kertay Rahaingay.... deobandion ne tu card apnay galo may nahi dalay na poster lagiay ........ gheebat kay khilaaf tu app ne thereek chalai hoe hay app hee es ki khilaf warzi baray dhararlay se kar rahay hoooo.... Yani Gheebat K Khilaf Jo Ailan E jang karay Sirf usay Hi Gheebat Se bachna Chahiye? Ap Ne Khud Hi Ibtida Men Gheebat Ki Tareef Men ahadees e Kareema Post Ki hain ,Kia Ap Ko Ya Or kisi Deobandi Ya Naam Nihad Musalman Ko Gheebat Se Bachna Zaroori Nahi? Or Ham Alhamdulillah Gheebat Nahi Kerrahay yahan Ap Pehlay Ye sabit To karen K Ye sab Gheebat Hi Hay... woo jo kuch galut karahay bakol app logo kay woo unka or Allah ka Mamla hay Beshak Un K Kiye Ki Saza Unhain Moat K Pehlay Jhatkay Se Hi pata Chalna Shuroo Hojayegi Ham To Sirf Un K kartooton Ki Nishandahi Kertay Hain .. ya sab agar hota tu ALLAH tala apnay JALAL se deobandio wahabion tabha or barbad na karcukay hotay or ajj MAKKA OR MADINA may baralvis ki hokomat na hoti agar baralvi hee sab se achay musalman hay???? Wah... Kia Formula hay ..Agr Isi Formulay Ko lay Ker Chala Jaye To Ap Batana Pasand farmaingay K Musalmanon K Qibla E Awwal Bait Ul Muqaddas Falastine Per Aj Kis ka Tasallut Hay? Kia Yahoodioun Ki hukoomat Wahan Is Baat Per Dalalat Kerti hay K Wo haq Per Hain? Mazeed Agr Ap K Pas Waqai Ilmi Dalail Hain Or Ap Agr Quran O Hadeeth Se Sabit Kerden K Dushmanan e Islam,Gustakhan e Rasool Or Bad Aqeedon K Baray Men Haqaiq Se Agah Kerna Gheebat Hay To zaroor Post karen...Werna Apna Fuzool Or hamara qeemti waqt zaya Kernay Ki zehmat Na karain... 2 اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghulam E Mustafa مراسلہ: 31 جنوری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 31 جنوری 2010 aik na shood doo shood ........ app ki kami theee. maray pass bhi bohot sari kitabo kay ref. mojod hay kabhi apnay molvion ki kitabay utha kar bhi parh lay na doro ki aeeb joi may lagay rehtay ho gheebat may lagay rehtay aray tum logo ko zara bhi sharum nahi kay dosro per kufr kay fatway laga daitay hoooo........ ya konsi islaam ki khidmat hay kay musalmanoo ko kafir karar daitay chalay jaooo........ aray baywakofo agar deobandi, wahabhi , ahalayhaeeds kafir hotay or kufar karahay hotay OR asal muslim sirf baralvi hotay tu ajj pori dunia may chand lakh hee musalmaan hotay........... dosri baat Allah or uskay RASOOL SAAW kabhi ya bardashat kartay kay unkay gharo per kafir wahabion ka kabza hota .......ajj Makka or madina may kon loog baithay hai ............kabhi apni akal bhi istimal kar lia karoo har saal lakho loog wahabi bakol app kay kafir kay pichay haj kartay hai kuch sharum ati hay tum ko musalmanoo ko kafir khanay may........... hum tu ap ko musalman mantay hai agar kuch galtia hay tu woo ap ka or Allah ka mamla hay lakin tum loogo ne kalma tu nabi ka parha hay ........ esi tarha maray dost deobandi or wahabi ne kalma parha jo app loog parhtay hooo.......... Allah se sachay dil se toba karooo k musalmano kay baray may kabhi asay guman nahi karoo gay or hamisha acha socho kay acha karoo gay.......... tum logo ko zara bhi sharum nahi kay dosro per kufr kay fatway laga daitay hooo Ji meine kab app per kufr ka fatwa lagaya ? koi copy hai uski app ky pass ? ya koi saboot meine app ko kafir kaha hoo ? Jhoton per Allah ki Lannat... aray baywakofo agar deobandi, wahabhi , ahalayhaeeds kafir hotay or kufar karahay hotay OR asal muslim sirf baralvi hotay tu ajj pori dunia may chand lakh hee musalmaan hotay Yeh tum logon ki sab say bari bhool hai aur Alhumdulillah koi Barelvi yeh nahi kehta ky Barelvion ky ilawa duniya mein baqi logh Kafir hein yeh tum logon ky mangharat kissay hein... dosri baat Allah or uskay RASOOL SAAW kabhi ya bardashat kartay kay unkay gharo per kafir wahabion ka kabza hota .......ajj Makka or madina may kon loog baithay hai Loo ji ise baat ki kami thi bus madrasay ky hujray mein beht kar tumhare molvi ne tumhare zehan mein jo daal diya wohi CD har wahabi ki zuban per chalti rehti hai... ajj Saudia mein Wahabi kyon hein yeh tu mein nahi keh sakta laikin kabhi ussi KABA mein 360 Butt bhi thay... tu iss ka yeh matlab nahi ky Allah aur Uss ka Rasool unn button ko passand farmaty hein. beharhal woh din door nahi jab Saudia samait Puri Duniya mein ASALATO WASSALAMO ALAIKA YA RASOOL ALLAH ka jhanda lehra raha ho ga InshaAllah. hum tu ap ko musalman mantay hai agar kuch galtia hay tu woo ap ka or Allah ka mamla hay lakin tum loogo ne kalma tu nabi ka parha hay Aur Usi Nabi ki shaan mein app logon ky Molvion ne jo Ghustakhiyan ki hein unn Ghustakhiyon ky baray mein hee hum iss Forum per Post karty hein jiss ko app jaisy '' Gheebat '' ka naam daity hein. خاک ہو جائیں عدو جل ک ر مگر ہم تو رضا دم میں جب تک دم ہے ذکر ان کا سناتے جائیں گے انشاءاللہ اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qasim bhai مراسلہ: 1 فروری 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 1 فروری 2010 Qasim Sb.aap apnay JAMAY say zyada bahar ho gay hain.Pehlay tu hum aap ke bakwas suntay rahay hain laikan ab aap ka kuch karna he paray ga,,, Abhi tak tu tum GHEEBAT ke taareef say yeh sabit nahi kar sakay keh yahan jo ho raha hay woh GHEEBAT hay aur jab tak tumhari tarah k mad qism k banday zinda hain woh b Insha Allah is ko yeh sabit nahi kar sakain gay. Mujhay yeh batao keh humaray Pyaray Nabi e Pak(saw) k Zamana e Aqdas main kitnay kitnay Gustakh Laeen kafir mojood thay aur unhon nay kis kis tarah Humaray Nabi e Mukarram(saw)ko aziyatain deen.Laikan Allah Kareem nay Irshad Farmaya keh Ay Meray Pyraya Habeeb jab tak Aap in main mojood hain,ALLAH kabhi in lo Azab main mubtla nahi karay ga. Har bat main aik hikmat hoti hay.Laikan aap hain keh aap ulti batain,baseless assumptions,hypothesis sunai he ja rahay hain... Zara HIMMAT karo aur GHEEBAT ke definiton say is open forum ko Gheebat sabit karo... Abhi tak tum nay jo BUHTAN wali bat ke thee,us ka jwab tum nay abhi tak nahi dia... Mujhay yeh batao keh agar tumhain koi shakhs yeh kahay keh TUMHARAY PARENTS KAFIR(NON BELIEVERS)hain,tu tumhara kya response ho ga??? Agar Koi Shakhs Yeh kahay keh tumharay waldain CHUMAR say b zyada zaleel hain tu kya jawab do gay??? Zara himmat say jawab do.I m waitin for your reply.... And this time just dont give me your baseless theories and assumptions.....Give me proper,to the point,logical answer...... sab se phlay tuu app logo request hay kay plz mari reply ka wait kia karay aik sath aik hee topic per 3,4 post kay jawab nahi daysakhta es ki waja ya hay kay app ka islamimehfil.info may kuch problem hay joo ya bohot hee jam chalta hay jis ki waja se mujhy open karnay kafi wakhat lag jata hay........ ya problem sahi karay takay loog yaha per asakhay ..... agar koe baat bori lagi hoo tu may dil se maafi chata hoo...... ya hum logo ne theories bana li hay kay baralvi kay liay deobandi ki ghebat jaiz hay or deobandi kay liay baralvi ki gheebat jaiz hay.... NO. esa nahi ......... Hadees kay kay mutabik agar kisi may woo chiz hay bhi or hum uska zikar tu bhi gheebat hai farz karay deobandi wakai bad akeday rakhtay waisay esi koe baat nahi hay ya sirf zeharilla propogandha hay joo saalo saal se kia jata raha hay....... lakin phir bhi maan lia jiay tu bhi woo gheebat hee khaliay geee....... hum molvion ki nahi quran or hadees ki baat ko manay molvi tu larwanay walay hain ...... es forum per agar sirf QURAN, HADEES,FIKHA OR NAMAZ , ROZA, HAJJ ZAKAT , JIHAD KAY BARAY MAY BATAYA JAIAY OR ZIDHA acha hogaa..... app ki nazar may kia deobandi kisi tarha bhi baralvion kam hain ilm may bhi or tadad may bhi ???? woo joo bar bar kitabo kay hawalay diay jatay unki tardid tu kafi saal phlay hee achukay abb un hawalo ko joo sachay nahi baniay howiay ko hatiyaar kay per Ulma deoband kay khilaf use kia jata hay....... khud socho asay kufria akeday rakhnay walo ko musalman zinda chortay? or woo asay kufria akeday kion rakhay gay ? agar ya kufria akeday deoband ulma k hain tu ........jao adalut may jao waha sabit karoo ya deoband kay akeday hay in ko in kofria akeday ki buniyad per kafir thareao jis tarha qadiyanis ko tharaya gaya hai ........agar baralvi sachay hay tu adalut ka darwazay per jiay peet pichay gheebat karna or musalmano ko wargalana es se koe faidha nahi hogaa deobandi masluk ajj bhi pori tarha mojod hay........ or karoro ki tadad may loog es masluk se wabista hay..... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qasim bhai مراسلہ: 1 فروری 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 1 فروری 2010 tum logo ko zara bhi sharum nahi kay dosro per kufr kay fatway laga daitay hooo Ji meine kab app per kufr ka fatwa lagaya ? koi copy hai uski app ky pass ? ya koi saboot meine app ko kafir kaha hoo ? Jhoton per Allah ki Lannat... aray baywakofo agar deobandi, wahabhi , ahalayhaeeds kafir hotay or kufar karahay hotay OR asal muslim sirf baralvi hotay tu ajj pori dunia may chand lakh hee musalmaan hotay Yeh tum logon ki sab say bari bhool hai aur Alhumdulillah koi Barelvi yeh nahi kehta ky Barelvion ky ilawa duniya mein baqi logh Kafir hein yeh tum logon ky mangharat kissay hein... dosri baat Allah or uskay RASOOL SAAW kabhi ya bardashat kartay kay unkay gharo per kafir wahabion ka kabza hota .......ajj Makka or madina may kon loog baithay hai Loo ji ise baat ki kami thi bus madrasay ky hujray mein beht kar tumhare molvi ne tumhare zehan mein jo daal diya wohi CD har wahabi ki zuban per chalti rehti hai... ajj Saudia mein Wahabi kyon hein yeh tu mein nahi keh sakta laikin kabhi ussi KABA mein 360 Butt bhi thay... tu iss ka yeh matlab nahi ky Allah aur Uss ka Rasool unn button ko passand farmaty hein. beharhal woh din door nahi jab Saudia samait Puri Duniya mein ASALATO WASSALAMO ALAIKA YA RASOOL ALLAH ka jhanda lehra raha ho ga InshaAllah. hum tu ap ko musalman mantay hai agar kuch galtia hay tu woo ap ka or Allah ka mamla hay lakin tum loogo ne kalma tu nabi ka parha hay Aur Usi Nabi ki shaan mein app logon ky Molvion ne jo Ghustakhiyan ki hein unn Ghustakhiyon ky baray mein hee hum iss Forum per Post karty hein jiss ko app jaisy '' Gheebat '' ka naam daity hein. خاک ہو جائیں عدو جل ک ر مگر ہم تو رضا دم میں جب تک دم ہے ذکر ان کا سناتے جائیں گے انشاءاللہ *may yaha kis fard-e-wahid kay baat nahi karaha hoo kia baralvi ulma ne kufar kay fatway nahi laigay jis ki bina per deoband ko badmazhab ka naam dia jaraha hay baralvis ki taruf se....??? *Chaloo shukar hay app baralvis kay ilawa bhi dosray musalmano ko maslun wahabion or deobandi masluk ko musalman hee samjhtay hai............... good. * hamaray molvi ne hamaray kaan may baat daal di or app kay molvi ne app kay kaan may baat daal di....... chalo daikhtay konsi baat sahai hay ........... 360 butoo ka zikar kia jab Hazoor ne Nabowat ka alan nahi kia tha or jab chand musalman makkay may thay ........ajj tu quran bhi pora nazil hochuka hay lakho ki tadad may musalman bhi mojod hay Hazoor saw ki pori seerat bhi hamaray samnay hay adhi dunia per musalamno ki hokomat bhi hay or karoro ki tadad may musalman bhi mojod hay tu kia app samjhtay hay es tanazoor may MAKKAH or MADINA may esay loog hokomat kar rahay hotay joo app ki nazar may theek nahi hay...... ?? Esa ho hee nahi sakhta kay Makkah or madinay per koe zabardasti kabza kar kay atnay saal baitha rahay .......... or jaha tak es baat ka taluk hay kay app apnay flag waha per laraiay gay tu agar ya ALLAH OR uskay RASOOL saw ko manzoor hota tu kab ka hochuka hotaa....... * maira akeda hay joo Rasool ki shan may zara barabar bhi aik lafz bhi bolay or likhay woo mujreem hay or islami asolo kay mutabik usay saza honi chiay (gardan mar di jiay ya pansi per latka dia jiay )......... esliay mari request hay pakistan may Law Mojood hay agar app logo ki nazar may deobandi molvis ne galut likha hay or galut bola hay tu bhai adalut may joay ......... dood ka dood pani ka pani hojay gaa.................... sirf jhooti sachi batay karnay se kaam nahi chalay gaa........ loog atnay baywakoof nahi joo app ki bato may ajiay gay............ jaiay adalut may jiay.... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sag e Madinah مراسلہ: 1 فروری 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 1 فروری 2010 Janab aap logical conversation karin.Bad Mazhab ko us ke bad mazhabi k baray main batana har giz gheebat main shumar nahi hota.Is ka baray main humaray Usman Bhai Huzoor Syedi Taaj Us Shariah(dba) ka aik fatwa b attach kia hay.Laikan aap hain keh MAIN NAHI MANTA ke ratt lagai hui hay. Deobandion,wahhabion sya humari koi zaati dushmani har giz nahi.Laikan agar woh Huzoor Aqdas(saw) ke shan e mubarka main gustakhi karain gay tu hum insha Allah rehtay damm tak un ka peecha kartay rahain gay.Aur aap jaisay logon ke kon parwah karta hay?????? اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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