Kia Islam Mai Dance Music Ki Ijazat Hy ?

[SunniDefender]

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Brelwi Femal Dance [Mast malangiyan] ???

 

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My dear brelwi brothers - watch this video carefully and think twice where these so called baba are taking to you.. I am sure no will allow his sister, wife or mother to dance like this... even th...

 

ab si video ko b ghor sy dekhin

 

 

 

kia koi in ko nai dekh raha ?

 

kia sary Mufti so rahy hn ?

Edited 25 جنوری 2010 by Sybarite
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[Eccedentesiast]

Islam main dance ki koi ijazat nahin hay

[SunniDefender]

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koi bta sakta hy ye log kia ker rahy hn ?

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[SunniDefender]

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koi jawab de sakta hy k aurat ka is tarha kerna jaiz hy ?

 

In sub ko dekh ker non muslim ki ibrat pakrty hn gy ?

 

kia koi in ko mana kerny wala nai hy ?

Edited 25 جنوری 2010 by Sybarite
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[Ya Mohammadah]

koi jawab de sakta hy k aurat ka is tarha kerna jaiz hy ?

In sub ko dekh ker non muslim ki ibrat pakrty hn gy ?

kia koi in ko mana kerny wala nai hy ?

 

koi bta sakta hy ye log kia ker rahy hn ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear brelwi brothers - watch this video carefully and think twice where these so called baba are taking to you.. I am sure no will allow his sister, wife or mother to dance like this... even th...

ab si video ko b ghor sy dekhin 

kia koi in ko nai dekh raha ? 

kia sary Mufti so rahy hn ?

 

 

Jehla jo bhi karein uska kisi bhi maslak se kuch lena dena nahni hota kyunki Hujjat sirf or sirf mustanad or moatbir ulema ikram hoty hain Jahil log nahin... ye to theek wese hi hai jaisy koi Deobandi-Wahabi jehla Pak sirzameen Makkah ya Madina Shareef ja kar ghair sharai hakrkat kar dein to kya apka maslak is par zimmedar hoga....?  Ahle Sunnat wala Jamat ka is par moqif bohot wazeh hai. Shah Turabhul Haq Sahab ka fatwa....about Music and Qawaali....its Haram to listen Qawwali with Mazameer(Musical Instruments). or Real Sunnis in sab laghwiyat se koson door hain or baizaar bhi...jo kuch video me dikhaya gaya hai sab najayz or haram hai....

 

 

 

 

urs without dhol bahngra.mp3

 

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[Sybarite]

Janab

 

Aap ki post ki sari video dekh li. Ab aap se aik seedha sa sawal. Kya aap sabit kar saktay hain ke ye Barelwi hain ya Maslak-e-Ala Hazrat ko maan nay walay hain? Agar aisa kar saktay hain tu forun kijiye, ba'soorat-e-deegar ye aap ka buhtan hoga jo ke khud aik gunah hai. Aur iss tarah ki videos humaray forum rakhna munasib bhi nahi. Lihaza ab jald'az'jald saboot paish kijiye ya phir khud hi inhay delete kar ke maaz'raat kar liye aur buhtan baandhnay per Allah se toubah kijiye.

 

 

 

The topic will be deleted if you fails to provide the evidences required to back his claim.

[SunniDefender]

Jehla jo bhi karein uska kisi bhi maslak se kuch lena dena nahni hota kyunki Hujjat sirf or sirf mustanad or moatbir ulema ikram hoty hain Jahil log nahin... ye to theek wese hi hai jaisy koi Deobandi-Wahabi jehla Pak sirzameen Makkah ya Madina Shareef ja kar ghair sharai hakrkat kar dein to kya apka maslak is par zimmedar hoga....? Ahle Sunnat wala Jamat ka is par moqif bohot wazeh hai. Shah Turabhul Haq Sahab ka fatwa....about Music and Qawaali....its Haram to listen Qawwali with Mazameer(Musical Instruments). or Real Sunnis in sab laghwiyat se koson door hain or baizaar bhi...jo kuch video me dikhaya gaya hai sab najayz or haram hai....

 

 

 

Asslamu alikum ,

 

thanks for your positive answers lakin masla ye hy jo article ap ny post kiy hn in ka aik aam admi ko to nai pata na

or isis waja log apny hi mazhab sy bezaar ho jaty hn . or baz to murtad b ho jaty hn . ap ager ye videos youtube per dekhin to ap ko bohat sary comments mily gay jo hum muslims ko kafir kehty hn . lakin ager koi new muslim dekh ly to

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ager waqi in videos mai jo log hn wo breivli nai hn to is tarah ki videos per koi international level per ihtajaj condemn nai hota .? or humary Alim be bus apni jamat tak waqaf hoty hn in mai ager itfaq or rabta ho to istarah ki videos nai bany .

[SunniDefender]

Janab Altaf Fe sahib.

 

Aap ki post ki sari video dekh li. Ab aap se aik seedha sa sawal. Kya aap sabit kar saktay hain ke ye Barelwi hain ya Maslak-e-Ala Hazrat ko maan nay walay hain? Agar aisa kar saktay hain tu forun kijiye, ba'soorat-e-deegar ye aap ka buhtan hoga jo ke khud aik gunah hai. Aur iss tarah ki videos humaray forum rakhna munasib bhi nahi. Lihaza ab jald'az'jald saboot paish kijiye ya phir khud hi inhay delete kar ke maaz'raat kar liye aur buhtan baandhnay per Allah se toubah kijiye.

 

 

 

The topic will be deleted if uou fails to provide the evidences required to back his claim.

 

 

 

ap to Breilvi hn na to ap ny ye jo foto lagi hy is mai do admi red or white libas mai kia ker rahy hn ?mai to sabit nai ker sakta kio k ye videos mai ny creat nai ki lakin jo in videos mai hn wo kam az kam musilm to hn na ? k ap un ko muslim b nai kehty .? theek hy ap ager un ko breivi nai kehty to muslim to kehty hi hn ? ap beshak videos ko delet ker dain is sy koi faraq nai pery ga kio k ye videos youtube pey hn mai ny koi gher mai nai bnai ap k ikhtaiar mai by sirf ye hi hy k is forum mai editing kerna lakin is forum k ilwa ap ki koi hesiat nai hy .

 

 

 

 

[Sybarite]

ap to Breilvi hn na to ap ny ye jo foto lagi hy is mai do admi red or white libas mai kia ker rahy hn ?mai to sabit nai ker sakta kio k ye videos mai ny creat nai ki lakin jo in videos mai hn wo kam az kam musilm to hn na ? k ap un ko muslim b nai kehty .? theek hy ap ager un ko breivi nai kehty to muslim to kehty hi hn ? ap beshak videos ko delet ker dain is sy koi faraq nai pery ga kio k ye videos youtube pey hn mai ny koi gher mai nai bnai ap k ikhtaiar mai by sirf ye hi hy k is forum mai editing kerna lakin is forum k ilwa ap ki koi hesiat nai hy .

 

 

 

 

Haa janab. Mein Alhumdulillah Ahle'Sunnah wa al'Jamat se hun jinhay nisbatan Barelwi bhi kaha jata hai. Sab se pehlay aap ne baat ki meri display pic ki tu pehlay ussi ka jawab parh lijiye, lekin mujhay koi khaas umeed nahi ke aap ko samajh aye.

 

Ye jo 2 shakhs aap ko meri display pic mein ghoomtay nazar aa rahay hain ye Mawlawiyya silsilay se hain. Ab ap ko yaqeenan ye bhi nahi maloom hoga ke Mawlawiyya silsila kin se shuru huwa. Mawlawiyya Silsila Hazrat Moulana Jalal-ud-Din Rumi se shuru huwa aur aaj sari dunya, khososan Turkey mein iss silsilay ke kafi loog hain. Ye jo inn hazrat ka ghoomna aap ko nazar aa raha hai ye usually dunya "Whirling Dervishes" ke naam se janti hai aur ye ghoomna Mawlawiya silsilay ka Zikr ka tareeqah hai. Jaisay mukhtalif Salasil ke apnay apnay andaaz hotay hain Zikr ke. Ab yaha bhi aap ka ikhtilaaf Barelwi nahi balkay Allama Jalal-ud-Din Rumi ki taraf hai. Kya aap ki waqai itni auqaat hai ke aap Moulana Jalal-ud-Din Rumi jaisi azeem hasti per ungli utha sakain? Ab iss Zikr ke tareeqay ki Sharai haisiyatt per tab baat karein gay jab aap mere sawal ka jawab dein gay, kyu ke pehlay sawal aap se mein ne poocha jis ka jawab aap ne abhi tak nahi diya aur na hi apnay jhootay buhtan se rijoo kya.

 

Ab aatay hain aap ki deegar bakwaas ki taraf. Pehlay tu aap ne videos post kar ke Barelwi hazraat per jhoota buhtan bandha. Phir mein ne aap se saboot maanga ke inhay Barelwi sabit kijiye tu aap ki seeti gumm ho gai kyu ke aap ne khud bhi ye sab kuch apni aankhoo se nahi dekha, bus youtube per waqt barbaad kartay huway ye videos nazar aa gai tu forun baghair soochay samjhay yaha post kar di aur saath mein apni ilmi'auqaat ki munasibat se jhoota ilzam laga diya ke jee ye tu Barelwi hain.

 

Ab rahi baat in videos mein logo ke Muslim honay ya na honay ki tu uss se is topic ka koi lena dena. Aap ka yaha videos post karnay ka yehi maqsad tha na ke jo kuch inn videos mein ho raha hai woh ghair'Islami hai. Ab jo cheez ghair'Islami hai tu chahaye Barelwi karay ya koi aur, ghalat hai tu ghalat hi qaraar di jaye gi. Issi tarah inn videos mein bhi jo bhi ho raha hai woh Islami tor per jayaz nahi. Aur iss baray mein hum Barelwis ka fatwa aap ko Ya Mohammadah bhai ne de diya.Magar shayad aap videos dekhnay ka zyada shoqeen hain, iss liye fatwa parhnay ki aap ne zehmat nahi ki. Agar parha hota tu phir ye baatein na kartein ke Barelwi nahi, muslim tu hain waghaira waghaira.

 

Khair ye tu huwa aap ki oot patang post ka jawab. Ab aaiye mere kiye gaye sawal ki taraf. Iss baat se tu aap munh nahi chupa saktay ke aap ne pehlay inn videos ka ilzam Barelwiyo per dala. Aur mere sawal karne ke ba'wajoud aap ne abhi tak koi saboot nahi diya ke jis se sabit hota ho ke ye Barelwi hain. Agar aap ke paas waqai koi saboot nahi hai tu koi baat nahi. Apnay buhtaan ki maafi mang lijiye, Allah(jallah) Ghafoor-o-Raheem hai. Lekin iss tarah be'sharmi se pehlay jhoota ilzam lagana, aur phir uss per dheet ban kar aray rehnay ki soorat mein tu aap ka tamasha hi banay ga. Umeed hai iss baar jawab zaroor dein gay aap.

 

Aur haa, videos delete iss liye ki jaa rahi hai ke yaha humari behnay aur bachay waghaira bhi hain, so iss liye iss tarah ke be'hooda videos yaha rakhna theek nahi. Haa agar aap ne inhay Barelwi sabit kar diya hota tu aur baat hoti, uss soorat mein ye aap ki taraf se paish karda saboot hota. Filhaal ye sirf aik jhoota ilzam hai so inn videos ki, ya aap ke jhootay ilzaam ki koi auqaat nahi.

[SunniDefender]

Asslamu alikum

 

Mai Ny to Is forum sy question pocha tha

 

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Kia Islam Mai Dance Ki Ijazat Hy ?

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jis ka jawab mujy ya ya Mohammadah bhai ny dia jis per mai ny un ka shukeria b ada kia

 

thanks for your positive answers

 

or mai ny kub kaha hy k ye breilvi hn mai ny lakin in videos ka title breilvi show ker raha tha jis waja sy mai ny is ko ap k is forum sy pochna munasib samjh

 

videos add kerty waqat mai ny

Brelwi Femal Dance [Mast malangiyan] ???

ye title b youtube ye copy paste kia ta k url mix na hn phir mai ny kuch or sawal pochy

 

My dear brelwi brothers - watch this video carefully and think twicewhere these so called baba are taking to you.. I am sure no will allowhis sister, wife or mother to dance like this... even th...

ab si video ko b ghor sy dekhin

kia koi in ko nai dekh raha ?

 

kia sary Mufti so rahy hn ?

 

kia in sawalt sy ya ya muhammadah k answer sy ye lagta hy k mai ny in ko waqi breilvi kehta hn lakin jub mai ny in ko youtube per dekha to mer siti gum hoi

 

Ab aatay hain aap ki deegar bakwaas ki taraf. Pehlay tu aap ne videospost kar ke Barelwi hazraat per jhoota buhtan bandha. Phir mein ne aapse saboot maanga ke inhay Barelwi sabit kijiye tu aap ki seeti gumm hogai kyu ke aap ne khud bhi ye sab kuch apni aankhoo se nahi dekha, busyoutube per waqt barbaad kartay huway ye videos nazar aa gai tu forunbaghair soochay samjhay yaha post kar di aur saath mein apniilmi'auqaat ki munasibat se jhoota ilzam laga diya ke jee ye tu Barelwihain.

 

mai ny sirf question pocha tha or jawab sy satisfy tha nay lakin ap sybarite ko is forum mai munazra ker k adat hi ho gai hy or mera her giz ye irdah nai tha or na hy k mai ap sy behs kero .

aap ne pehlay inn videos ka ilzam Barelwiyo per dala.

bhai mai kub ilzam dala mai ny to ap sy question kia tha .

 

or mera dusra maqasd ye tha

ager waqi in videos mai jo log hn wo breivli nai hn to is tarah kivideos per koi international level per ihtajaj ya action ,condemn nai hota .?

jo k mai ny ya mohammadah k answer per likha tha

 

or phir mai ny ye sawal b pchy

 

koi jawab de sakta hy k aurat ka is tarha kerna jaiz hy ?

 

In sub ko dekh ker non muslim ki ibrat pakrty hn gy ?

 

kia koi in ko mana kerny wala nai hy ?

 

mujy to in videos or khas ker title ko dekh ker bohat sadma howa tha or mai ny ye sub idehr is liy post ki tha k mai apni islah ker sako k kia sahi or or kia ghalt .

 

ager waqi in videos ko post nai ker na chaiy tha lakin mai ny sirf apni islah or is k khatmy k liy post kia ager ap ko phir b lagta hy k mai ny Bohatan kia hy

 

To Mai Allah Sy Mafi Mangta hn Or Admi ko her waqat apny zahri or batni gunaho ki moafi mangy rehna chaiy Allah Hum Sub per raham ker .

 

jis taraha ap mujy sy uljhy hn isis wajaa sy hum musalmano mai itafq nai hy or burian barrh rahi hn . or behter ho ager ap in videos ko youtube sy be delet kerny ki koshah kerin .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 27 دسمبر 2010 by Usman Razawi

[Sybarite]

[quote name='

SunniDefender

' date='25 January 2010 - 08:47 PM' timestamp='1264434421' post='59617']

or mai ny kub kaha hy k ye breilvi hn mai ny lakin in videos ka title breilvi show ker raha tha jis waja sy mai ny is ko ap k is forum sy pochna munasib samjh

 

videos add kerty waqat mai ny ye title b youtube ye copy paste kia ta k url mix na hn phir mai ny kuch or sawal pochy

 

Chaliye aap ki baat maan leta hun, lekin itna andaza tu aap ko bhi hoga ke aap ki post ka andaaz yehi tha jaisay aap ye ilzam Brelwiyo per thoop rahay hun. Aap ki sab se pehli post kuch yun thi;

 

[quote name='

SunniDefender

' date='23 January 2010 - 10:38 AM' timestamp='1264225130' post='59480']

My dear brelwi brothers - watch this video carefully and think twice where these so called baba are taking to you..

 

[quote name='

SunniDefender

' date='25 January 2010 - 08:47 PM' timestamp='1264434421' post='59617']

kia in sawalt sy ya ya muhammadah k answer sy ye lagta hy k mai ny in ko waqi breilvi kehta hn lakin jub mai ny in ko youtube per dekha to mer siti gum hoi

 

mai ny sirf question pocha tha or jawab sy satisfy tha nay lakin ap sybarite ko is forum mai munazra ker k adat hi ho gai hy or mera her giz ye irdah nai tha or na hy k mai ap sy behs kero .

 

Be'shak aadmi zaroor shocked hota hai iss tarah ki videos dekh kar lekin aap bhi aqal rakhtay hain hazrat. Khud hi dekh lijiye, video mein kahi aap ko koi Sabz Imama nazar nahi aye ga, kahi aap ko Ahle'Sunna wa al'Jamat ki koi ilmi shakhsiyat nazar nahi aye gi. Bagair tehqeeq kisi baat ko agay riwayat karna bhi sahi nahi. Ab rahi baat aap ke iraday ki tu uss per tu mein ne bhi koi shakk nahi kya. Aap khud hi apni post dobara parh lijiye, woh sawal kam ilzaam zyada hai. Sawal tu iss tarah bhi poocha jaa sakta tha ke "Kya ye Barelwi mehfil hai?". Aap ki post parh kar tu sawal aap se mein ne kya tha ke janab kya aap ke paas koi saboot hai ke ye videos Barelwi hazrat ki hain. Aap agar jawab de dete tu baat wahi khatam ho jati. Aap ne ulta khud hi baat ko doosri taraf rukh dya. Rahi baat munaziray ki aadat ki tu mein koi alim ya munazir nahi. Aam sa jahil gunehgar banda hun, magar mere maslak per koi ungli uthaye tu ye bardaasht nahi hota. Woh aur baat hai ke aap issay mamlay ko zaati tour per lein. Mera maqsad sirf apnay maslak per ghalat baat ka radd karna tha.

 

 

[quote name='

SunniDefender

' date='25 January 2010 - 08:47 PM' timestamp='1264434421' post='59617']

or mera dusra maqasd ye tha jo k mai ny ya mohammadah k answer per likha tha

 

or phir mai ny ye sawal b pchy

 

mujy to in videos or khas ker title ko dekh ker bohat sadma howa tha or mai ny ye sub idehr is liy post ki tha k mai apni islah ker sako k kia sahi or or kia ghalt .

 

ager waqi in videos ko post nai ker na chaiy tha lakin mai ny sirf apni islah or is k khatmy k liy post kia ager ap ko phir b lagta hy k mai ny Bohatan kia hy

 

To Mai Allah Sy Mafi Mangta hn Or Admi ko her waqat apny zahri or batni gunaho ki moafi mangy rehna chaiy Allah Hum Sub per raham ker .

 

jis taraha ap mujy sy uljhy hn isis wajaa sy hum musalmano mai itafq nai hy or burian barrh rahi hn . or behter ho ager ap in videos ko youtube sy be delet kerny ki koshah kerin .

 

Aap ne ye video dekhi tu khud bhi thora tehqeeq kartay janab. Ye jo aap ni doosri video post ki thi jis mein kuch loog uchal kood kar rahay hain, yehi same video youtube per hi Deobandi Dance Party ya issi tarah ke title ke saath bhi moujod hai, exactly same video! Tu kehnay ka maqsad ye ke jab inn videos mein koi authenticity hai hi nahi tu phir inhay ilzaami andaaz mein post karnay ka koi maqsad hi nahi banta. Aap ne agar ye videos, sawal karne ke andaaz mein post kya hota tu mera jawab aur hota. Aap ki post hi ambiguous thi, lihaza mein ne reply mein counter-question hi kya, jis ka jawab agar aap de dete tu baat wazeh ho jati.

 

Rahi baat aap se ulajhnay ki tu ye aap ka apna gumaan hai. Mein ne aap se sawal kya aur jawab ke bajaye aap khud mujh se uljhay meri display pic ko target kya, meri moderation per apni raye di waghaira waghaira. Tu hazrat aap khud per naqidana nazar dalaay tu uljhay tu aap khud hi hain.

 

Ya Mohammadah bhai ke post per aapnay jo sawalaat kiye unn ka jawab bhi jald hi dene ki koshish karo ga, filhaal zara masroof hun iss liye iss waqt maazrat.

 

Meri taraf se koi baat agar zaati tour per buri lagi ho tu maazrat.

[SunniDefender]

shaykhu-ul-islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul- Qadri Nay Music Ko jaiz qarar dia hy ap in ki videos or description dekh lain

 

 

 

 

in k bary mai to kuch sabit kerny ki zrorat nai hy lakin Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul- Qadri saab ny music ko isalm sy sabit kia hy ap in ki videos ko chek ker lain or side pay decription mai ap ko refrences b mil jai gay

 

 

isis tarah Lasani Sarkar B Hamari Sunni Rahnoma hn in k AIk Khaliafa Saab ki Sadart mai Mehfila Naat Molahiza kerin . Naat Complete Dekhin

 

 

Or Mujy Hazrat Moulana Jalal-ud-Din Rumi Ka nai pata tha is lia Un ka bary Mai Mai AP sy Mazrat kerta hn

 

han aik Video Ptv Pay 3 sy 4 saal pehly Lagti Thi Jis Mai In ka kalaam perha Gia hy shaid ye wo Hi hn

 

 

Tere Ishq Nachaya- Pakistani Sufi

[Sag e Madinah]

[Sybarite]

Aap jinhay Sheikh-ul-Islam keh rahay hain unhay hum Dr. Tahir-ul-Padri kehtay hain. Ye wohi Dr. Tahir hain jo kabhi Shias ki chamcha'giri kartay hain tu kabhi Deobandiyo ki. Kabhi Nawaz Sharif ke peechay dum hilatay hain tu kabhi Bibi Benazir ke peechay zaban latkaye ghoomtay hain. Khair kehnay ka maqsad ye ke Dr. Tahir hum Ahle'Sunnah wa al'Jamat ke nazdeem Gumrah hai. Aur ye fatwa aaj ka nahi, saalo pehlay ka hai. Iss baray mein tafseel parni ho tu Sullah-e-Kulliyat mein poora topic mojoud hai waha parh lijiye ga. Filhaal yaha irrelevant post na kijiye.

 

Aap awwal tu ye topic hi bilkul be'waqoof se banaya, phir ab tak aap ye bhi na sabit kar sakay ke unn videos mein koi Barelwi tha. Mazeed aap ko music waghaira ke baray mein fatwa bhi paish kar dya gaya. So ab iss topic mein baat karne ko kuch nahi reh jata.