Munafiqat of Gustakh-i-Idrisia exposed

[bud]

Tum logon nay "Who is Shaikh Amin in Multan" topic ka akhri page hata kar topic lock kar dia, kyun-k us page par "anwar200" nami Ghustakh-i-Idrisia ki zalil baten gandi galian usi k khilaf gawahi ban gai thin--men nay kaha tha "Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen" to Gustakh-i-Aulia par parri laanat sab k samnay aa gai thi wo gustakh ruswa ho gaya tha--Innal batila kana zahuqa

 

Khuda say daro Haq na chupao, Quran men is tarah Haq chupanay kay khilaf buht sakht waeed ai hay.

men poochta hun k meri walida ka zikr kahan say aa gaya tha? unhen kyun galian din gain?

 

jis bay-tukay andaaz say khwamakhwa us shakhs nay meri walida ko galian din, us say us ki kameengi k alawa do or baaten bhi samnay ain.

pehli ye k jab bataya bhi tha k Sunni Rizvi Syed hen meri walida, phir bhi us nay galian din jis say sabit hua k wo munafiq hay kyun k koi Musalman ye batanay k baad zarur lehaz karta--meri walida ka is topic se taluq hi kya tha; doosri baat yeh k jis tarah out of context siyaq-o-sabaq say hat kar us shakhs nay meri walida ko galian din, usi tarah out of context siyaq-o-sabaq say hat kar yeh propaganda chalanay walay Shaikh Sahib ki baten naqal kar k un par ilzam tarashi kartay hen or un ki shan men gustakhian kartay hen. Yeh khuli nishani sab k samnay zahir ho gai hay sab dekh len.

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[Anwar200]

expose to tum idrisi ho chokay ho kisi aik sawal ka jawab na day kar

tum ager sachay ho to os masjid ka pura pata likh do jis meh sheikh amin imam tha.hahaha

[bud]

hahaha

Expose to tum log ho rahay ho-- kaisa non-serious andaaz hay, tumharay liay ye khel hay?

[Anwar200]

Acha tum log ager jhotay nahi ho to jis masjid meh sheikh amin 30 ya 20 sal imam raha

 

Os masjid ka address zara yahan likh do is meh kia qabahat ha ke tum log os masjid ka mokamal address nahi likhtay hayan?jo bi jhota ha os per Allah ki lanaat ho.

 

To tum itnay jhotoy ho ke jis sheikh amin ko tum ne madina sharif meh 30 sal imam masjid likha

 

Os masjid ka na to kohi address daytay ho aur na hi tum yeh baat qabol karte ho ke tum ne jhot likh tha ke sheikh amin imam masjid tha ab tum khud ya to sabat kro ke sheikh amin imam tha ya phir kuch sharam kar ke apnay jhot ko maan loo.tumhara jawab na daina hi dalil ha ke sheikh amin jhota ha aur jo jhota hota ha wo walli Allah nahi hota.

[bud]

1993 men mera ahad hua tha, lag bhag 15 saal se men yeh baat jaanta hun k Syedi 20 saal us Medina ki us masjid k Imam rahay kyun-k un shruu k salon men yeh baat men nay khud Shaikh Sahib ki zuban-i-mubarak se suni thi jab wo Karachi men thay.

 

Masjid ka address mujhay nahi maloom, lekin Sialkot walay Asim Ayub Bhai Saudi Arab k zamanay k murid hen unhen maloom hay wo Sialkot men gitian karatay hen jo Haq ka sacha talib hay un say pooch lay (men gustakh k kehnay par gustakhi ki bunyad par khud to kabhi nahi poochon ga--ye bay-adabi hay), lekin doosray Bhai is liay tum logon k is propaganda ka jawab nahi day rahay k Shaikh Sahib nay unhen roka hay, wo ummat men tafarqa nahi chahtay, men to Shaikh Sahib ki Roohani aulad hun un ka beta hun is liay laad or maan men apnay ilm k mutabiq jawab diay hen, doosray log adab ki waja se itni himat nahi kartay

 

Medina ki Masjid k Imam honay say barrh kar yeh baat men janta hun (Masha-Allah) or is baat ki gawahi deta hun k Shaikh Amin Sahib k sina-sharif men Medina Sharif chupa hay, un ka dil apnay Aqa Ji Muhammad-u-Rasul-Allah Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam say mila hay, jo chahay un say dil mila kar dekh lay un say dil milanay par dil men itna zabardast Ishq-i-Rasul or Adab-i-Rasul paida ho ga k wo bhi in baton ki gawahi day ga jo men nay kahi hen--yeh baten Rozay ki halat men Jumat-ul- Wida k din keh raha hun--Allah ki qasam yeh baten sach hen.

Propaganda chalanay walay jo log kehtay hen (Adab ki waja say isharatan likh raha hun) nabuwat ya Khudai ka dawa (Nauzu Billah), kala jadoo (Nauzu Billah), Qadianon jaisay aqaid (Nauzu Billah) ya doosray ghalat ilzaam or buhtan jo propaganda chalanay walay laga rahay hen, wo jo kehtay hen wo kehtay hen, men jo kehta hun wo men kehta hun phir men yeh izafa karta hun k jo jhoot bol raha ho us par Allah ki laanat ho-- Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen, Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen, Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen. (Agar tumhen apni baton par "yaqeen" hay (jo k men janta hun k ho hi nahi sakta kyun-k tum log kahi suni par chal rahay ho) to tum bhi apnay dawon par is tarah ka izafa karo jo men nay kia takay jhootay par laanat pakki ho jaey.)

 

Shaikh Sahib or un k murid or aqeedat-mand or doosray Musalman jo Shaikh Sahib say aman or salamti men hen, Allah un par Raham karay-- Inna Rahmat-Allah-i-qareeb-u-min-al-muhsineen, Inna Rahmat-Allah-i-qareeb-u-min-al-muhsineen, Inna Rahmat-Allah-i-qareeb-u-min-al-muhsineen. (Shaikh Sahib ki shafqat or Jummatul Wida k hawalay say positive note par khatam kar raha hun sachay Musalmanon k liay.--Burhan bin Tahir)

Edited 18 ستمبر 2009 by bud

[Sybarite]

1993 men mera ahad hua tha, lag bhag 15 saal se men yeh baat jaanta hun k Syedi 20 saal us Medina ki us masjid k Imam rahay kyun-k un shruu k salon men yeh baat men nay khud Shaikh Sahib ki zuban-i-mubarak se suni thi jab wo Karachi men thay.

 

Masjid ka address mujhay nahi maloom, lekin Sialkot walay Asim Ayub Bhai Saudi Arab k zamanay k murid hen unhen maloom hay wo Sialkot men gitian karatay hen jo Haq ka sacha talib hay un say pooch lay (men gustakh k kehnay par gustakhi ki bunyad par khud to kabhi nahi poochon ga--ye bay-adabi hay), lekin doosray Bhai is liay tum logon k is propaganda ka jawab nahi day rahay k Shaikh Sahib nay unhen roka hay, wo ummat men tafarqa nahi chahtay, men to Shaikh Sahib ki Roohani aulad hun un ka beta hun is liay laad or maan men apnay ilm k mutabiq jawab diay hen, doosray log adab ki waja se itni himat nahi kartay

 

Medina ki Masjid k Imam honay say barrh kar yeh baat men janta hun (Masha-Allah) or is baat ki gawahi deta hun k Shaikh Amin Sahib k sina-sharif men Medina Sharif chupa hay, un ka dil apnay Aqa Ji Muhammad-u-Rasul-Allah Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam say mila hay, jo chahay un say dil mila kar dekh lay un say dil milanay par dil men itna zabardast Ishq-i-Rasul or Adab-i-Rasul paida ho ga k wo bhi in baton ki gawahi day ga jo men nay kahi hen--yeh baten Rozay ki halat men Jumat-ul- Wida k din keh raha hun--Allah ki qasam yeh baten sach hen.

Propaganda chalanay walay jo log kehtay hen (Adab ki waja say isharatan likh raha hun) nabuwat ya Khudai ka dawa (Nauzu Billah), kala jadoo (Nauzu Billah), Qadianon jaisay aqaid (Nauzu Billah) ya doosray ghalat ilzaam or buhtan jo propaganda chalanay walay laga rahay hen, wo jo kehtay hen wo kehtay hen, men jo kehta hun wo men kehta hun phir men yeh izafa karta hun k jo jhoot bol raha ho us par Allah ki laanat ho-- Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen, Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen, Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen. (Agar tumhen apni baton par "yaqeen" hay (jo k men janta hun k ho hi nahi sakta kyun-k tum log kahi suni par chal rahay ho) to tum bhi apnay dawon par is tarah ka izafa karo jo men nay kia takay jhootay par laanat pakki ho jaey.)

 

Shaikh Sahib or un k murid or aqeedat-mand or doosray Musalman jo Shaikh Sahib say aman or salamti men hen, Allah un par Raham karay-- Inna Rahmat-Allah-i-qareeb-u-min-al-muhsineen, Inna Rahmat-Allah-i-qareeb-u-min-al-muhsineen, Inna Rahmat-Allah-i-qareeb-u-min-al-muhsineen. (Shaikh Sahib ki shafqat or Jummatul Wida k hawalay say positive note par khatam kar raha hun sachay Musalmanon k liay.--Burhan bin Tahir)

 

Miya jee itnay bari bari jazbaat se bharpoor posts karne se siyaasi maidaan mein shayad koi kaamyaabi ho magar yaha koi faida nahi. Aap ko waqai agar lagta hai ke yaha koi jhoota propoganda ho raha hai ya koi ghalat ilzaam lagaya jaa raha hai tu phir un topics per jaa kar unn aiterazaat ko saboot-o-dalail se jhoota sabit kijiye.

 

Ab ya na kahiye ga ke Sheikh jee ne mana kiya hai. Agar mana kya hai tu phir itna bhi kyu bool rahe hain? Ya tu khamooshi se Sheikh jee ke doosray mureedo ki tarah palloo mein munh chapye bethein rahein ya phir jawab dein. Iss tarah ki jazbaati post tu mein ne Qadiyaniyo ki bari parhi hain. Aur iss mein bura maan'nay wali koi baat bhi nahi. Aap ke baap per koi agar jhoota ilzaam lagaye tu aap ko haqq hai ke aap uss ilzaam ko jhoota sabit karne ke liye qadam uthaye, lekin bewaoo ke se andaaz mein duhaiyaa dene se tu kuch nahi hona!

 

Ab shabaash jaldi se jis laad or maan ke bal per aap ne itna kuch likh dya, ussi laad aur maan ke ball per uss Sialkoti janab se uss Masjid ka address bhi le lijiye. Aur iss mein koi be'adabi nahi, na shara'ee lihaaz se aur na dunyawi lihaaz se. Umeed hai ke jawab jald aye ga.

[Anwar200]

Wah ji wah kia baat ha pehlay sheikh amin ko 30 sal tak imam masjid likha jab os jhot ko

 

Sabat na kar sakay to 30 se kam kar ke 20 sal ki modat per lay aye yani ke zabardasti os jahil wo ghustakh Allah o Nabi ko imam sabat karnay ki nakaam koshish jari ha dekho bud bohat arsa se

 

Humra yeh sawal tum sab idrision per ha ager tum log jhotay na hotay to kab ka address faraham kar daytay darasal tum logon ki taraf se aik ghalti ho choki ha ke sheikh amin ne apni shan dekhanay ke wastay yeh jhot bol diya ha ke wo madina sharif meh imam masjid tha os jahil ko yeh bi nahi malom ke jis saudia meh wo bohat arsa reh kar aya ha wahan to kisi ghair wahabi ko masjid ka imam nahi banya jata tum log kehtay ho ke sheikh amin sufi ha ab tum khud faisla kro ke wahabi log to sufism ko shirk kehtay hain to kasay momkin ha ke aik sufi ko imam masjid bana diya jaye?thanday dil se ghoor kro ke sheikh amin ke aik jhot ko sabat karnay ke liye ap ko yeh bi sabat karna paray ga ke wahabi aik sufi ko imam masjid bi bana daytay hain tum kehtay ho ke sheikh amin hanafi ha phir tum ko yeh bi sabat karna paray ga ke wahabi jo ghairmokalad hain kisi hanafi ko bi imam masjid bana datay hain? Aur phir sheikh amin ke mutaliq bohat si website per likha ha ke wo 30 sal tak imam masjid raha ha bud sahib ap to taleemyafta ho kia ap kasay yeh qabol kar sktay ho ke ager sheikh amin 30 sal imam tha 24 sal se wo pakistan meh ha ager os ki umar 68 sal bi ho to phir 12 ya 13 sal ki umar meh wo imam masjid ban giya aur wo bi wahabiyon ke mulak meh? Khair is ko kehtay hain aik jhot ko chopanay ke liye 100 jhot bolnay pertay hain

 

Jis asim bahi ka tum ne likha ha to tum ko ager malom nahi to os asim bahi se contact kar key eh puch lo ke kia os ko malom nahi ke suni sawal karte hain address ka? Ji han os ko yeh baat malom ha ke masjid ka address pucha jar aha ha likin wo bi janta ha key eh aik jhot ha ke sheikh amin imam tha madina meh is liye wo bi khamosh ha to phir kia shaq baqi reh jata ha ke sheikh amin

 

Ne aik jhot bola tha jo ab pakra giya ha.tum jo marzi ha kar loo likin tum log sabat nahi kar sktay ke sheikh amin imam masjid that um beyadbi ki baat karte ho are jahil insane sheikh amin ki beyadabi

 

Wo raswai os sorat meh ziyada ho rahi ha ke tum log masjid ka address nahi day rahay is sorat

 

Meh wo jhot sabat ho raha ha aur ager tum os ko is zilaat se bachana chatay ho to os ka assan rasta ha ke os ko phone kro aur bolo ke sheikh sahib muj (bud) se ab mazid ap ki roswai wo badnami dekhi nahi ja skti log ap ko jhota kehtay hain is liye a pos masjid ka address bata dain jis me hap imam thay ta ke mein logon ke moun band kar skon aur ap se jhota honay ka ilzam khatam ho jaye.

 

Yeh hi sorat ha k eager tum apnay sheikh ko jhota nahi dekhna chahtay to apnay sheikh ki izaat ke liye os se masjid ka address lay kar likh do.warana zilat wo roswai jhoton ka moqad hoti ha.

 

Aik izafi baat likh raha hon kiyon ke tum ne beyadabi ka likha ha to beyadabi to tum idrision ko sheikh amin se mil hi choki ha aur sheikh amin khud bi apni zuban se is baat ka iqrar kar choka ha ke wo Aqa ji ka beyadab ha kehta ha ke mein janta hon ke jo batin mein karta hon wo beyadabi hain

 

Assi batin muj ko nahi karni chahye likin mein karam ke kakaza per assi batin karta hon yani ke sheikh amin keh raha karam ke takazay mein Aq ji ki beyadabi ki ja skati ha (maz Allah) ab tum hi bato ke kia karam ke taza meh kohi muslman Aqa ji ke beyadabi kar skta ha?

 

Aur bud khuda ki qasam is video meh kohi baat out of contest ya fake nahi ha tum khud is link per

 

Ja kar suon loo to jo log khuud beyadab hon aur wo bi Aqa ji ki zaat ke to on ko adab ka kia khiyal ho ga? Khuda ki qasam yeh sheikh amin bohat khush qismat ha ke abhi tak ullama ki zaad meh nahi aya aur jis din ullama ko is bad tarin fitnay ka ahsas ho giya to yad reho tum sab idrision ka kohi nishan nahi milay gay ad rekho ke is waqat sari duniya ka sab se shaded tarin ghustakh Nabi sheikh amin hi ha.khair yeh izafi baat ki thee likin filhal tum os masjid ka address lay kar awo.

 

[bud]

men nay 20 saal hi likha hay kyun k yeh men nay khud Syedi say suna tha, kya tum keh rahay ho k men nay 30 saal likha?--is baat par bhi kehta hun k jo ham men se jhoot bol raha ho us par Allah ki laanat ho.

 

tum logon ki yeh laanati bakwas to doosray topics men chal rahi ho gi, is topic k mutabiq apnay munafiq na honay ka saboot do

Yaad karata chalun k Shaikh Amin Sahib k khilaf jhooti ilzaam tarashi or buhtan-goi karnay walay Gustakhan-i-Idrisia ki munafiqat k kitnay hi sabut samnay aa chukay hen:

 

(1) "Who is Shaikh Amin in Multan" topic k hata diay guy aakhri page par "anwar200" k nam say post kar rahay shakhs nay gandi galian din. Sahih Hadith Sharif k mutabiq munafiq ki ek nishani ye hay k jhagrra karay to gali galoch par utar aey, is tarah is shakhs ki munafiqat sab par zahir ho gai, Idrision par to pehlay hi zahir thi kyun-k usi Hadith Sharif k mutabiq munafiq ki ek nishani yeh bhi hay k baat karay to jhoot bolay or is shakhs ne doosray propagandists ki tarah Shaikh Amin Sahib par jhoot bolay, jhootay ilzaam lagaey, buhtan-goi ki.

 

(2) jab men nay kaha tha k "Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen" to "anwar200" par parri laanat zahir ho gai or us nay logon ki maon ko gandi galian deni shoroo kar din.

 

(3) Jin ko wo galian day raha tha un men Aal-i-Rasool or Aulia khawateen shamil thin. Aal-i-Rasool k baray men usay bataya bhi tha lekin wo bay-adab na-murad meray Aal-i-Rasool khandan ko mazid nangi galian denay laga, jis say us ki munafiqat sab par zahir ho gai kyun-k koi Musalman aisa nahi kar sakta tha.

 

(4) meri walida ka topic say koi taluq na tha lekin "anwar200" k sayyaq-o-sabaq say hat kar bay-tukay andaaz se meri walida ko galian denay say yeh bhi zahir ho gaya k in gustakhon ki yeh aadat hay k sayyaq-o-sabaq se hat kar baat nikaltay hen, Shaikh Sahib nay kisi or paraiy, kisi or mafhoom men baat ki hoti hay yeh propaganda chalanay walay Munafiq usay kisi aur mafhoom men bayan kartay hen.

 

(5) "anwar200" ne ye show karnay ki koshish ki k wo Ghazi Ilm Din wala kam kar raha hay (ek post men kaha k "Ghazi Ilm Din paida hotay rahen gay") lekin kam yeh kar raha tha k logon ki maon ko galian day raha tha, is tarah us nay Ghazi Ilm Din Shaheed ki shan men bhi gustakhi ki, yani us k khiyal men internet k pichay mun chupa kar logon ki maon ko nangi galian denay se Ghazi Ilm Din bana ja sakta hay (Nauzu-Billah). Is say sabit hua k wo Shaikh Sahib k alawa doosray Aulia ka bhi gustakh hay.

(6) "anwar200" nay khud ko "Baghdadi member" likha lekin kam yeh kia k logon ki maon ko or Aal-i-Rasul ko gandi galian din, chunanchay yeh Hazrat Abdul Qadir Jilani (Rahmatullah alaih) ki shan men bhi sakht bay-adabi ka murtakib hua

 

(7) Men nay kaha k Shaikh Sahib nay Aqa Ji kay mujasim Rahmat honay k bayan men un k Abdullah bin Ubay ki Namaz-i-Janaza parrhanay ka zikar kiya tha to yeh propaganda chalanay walay gumrah jahil log "munafiq" or "kafir" k farq ki bahas men parr guy jo is sayyaq-o-sabaq men bilkul bay-mani thi. har sachay Musalman ko maloom hay k munafiq kafir ki bad-tarin shakal hay kyun-k kafir ka kufar zahir or munafiq ka chupa hota hay, isi liay munafiq jahanum k sab say nichlay darjay men hon gay, lekin yeh Idrisia or Shaikh Amin Sahib k khilaf fizool bakwas or buhtan-goi karnay walay Gustakh kyun-k khud munafiq hen is liay munafiq or kafir ki bay-mani bahas men parr guy jis say sabit hua k in logon ko bay-mani bahas karnay ki adat hay.

 

(8) phir in propaganda chalanay walon nay ek naya drama shuroo kia--in men say ek shakhs "ex Idrisi" k munafiqana naam say post karnay laga--in ko itna bhi nazar nahi aya k yeh to naam say hi propaganda lag raha hay, warna ek aisa shakhs jo ye dawa karay k wo Idrisia say taluq torr chuka hay wo apnay naam men kisi bhi natay se Idrisi ka lafz kyun lagaey ga? "ex Idrisi" naam rakhnay ka matlab ya to yeh ho sakta tha k is shakhs ko ab Idrisia ki yaad aa rahi hay, lekin kyun-k baqol us k aisa nahi is liay zahir hay k anti-Idrisia propaganda k liay us nay yeh naam rakha.

 

(9) "anwar200" nay ek Wali ki shaan men gustakhi kartay huay jo alfaaz kahay wo usi par palat aey jab logon ki maon ko gandi galian detay huay aisa lag raha tha k "anwar200" bilkul kuttay ki tarah bhonk raha hay. Chand par thooknay ka yehi anjaam hota hay.

 

(10) Sab nay dekha k "Who is Shaikh Amin in Multan" topic men gustakhon ki buhtan-goi ka akhri sira daba kar (yani akhri page hata kar jis men "anwar200" kuttay ki tarah bhonk raha tha) topic lock kar dia gaya, yani kuttay ki dum dabai or maidan chorr dia gaya--doosray lafzon men "Dum daba k bhagay Gustakh-i-Idrisia"--propaganda chalanay walay zaleel or ruswa ho kar topic band karnay par majboor ho guy--yeh khuli nishani thi k "Innal Batila kana zahuqa".

 

(11) itnay serious topic men "anwar200" nami shakhs non-serious Shaitani andaaz se hansta or istehza karta raha hay ("hahaha") jis say saaf zahir hay k yeh log Haq k serious or pur-khuloos talib nahi balkay mustahzieen hen. Agar un k khayal men yeh khel hay to unhen pata hona chahiay k wo aag se khel rahay hen, aisi aag jo dilon pay charrhti hay, zindagi ka sukoon tabah kar sakti hay

 

(12) meri guftugu se yeh andaza ho gaya ho ga k men jhoot nahi bolta or serious shakhs hun. men jo baat Shaikh Sahib k baray men kehta hun wo apnay zati tajarbay ki bunyad par kehta hun, jab-k yeh propaganda karnay walay log kahi suni ki bunyad par chal rahay hen. Men ne kaha k agar Haq k waqai sachay talib ho to saaf dil kar k Multan jao or khud Shaikh Sahib ko dekho, wahan ka Noorani mahol dekho, or phir baat karo, to yeh baat gol kar di or gustakhion par array rahay, in tanasaan logon k khayal men internet par beth kar andheray men tamak toian marnay say yeh Haq ko pa len gay? Andheray men jhootay ilzamat k teer chalanay say yeh bay-aqal log masoom Musalmanon ko zakhmi or apnay aap ko qatal kar rahay hen. Baten itni barrh charrh k kartay hen k lagta hay k Haq k buht barray talib hen lekin tatolo to pata chalta hay k Multan khud nahi gaey balkay doosron ki kahi suni par chal rahay hen. Agar waqai talib-i-Haq hotay to koi baat karnay say pehlay Haq ki tasdeeq k liay Multan khud zaroor jatey.

 

(13) Men nay in ko Mubahila ki dawat bhi day di k aao Shaikh Sahib k baray men ham apnay apnay daway kar k jhooton par Allah ki laanat pakki kar den . Men Ainul-Yaqeen or Haqul Yaqeen ki bunyad par, yani apnay zati mushahidaat or mehsoosaat ki bunyad par baat kar raha hun, or yeh propaganda karnay walay kahi suni ki bunyad par baat kar rahay hen--yani in ka Ilmul Yaqeen bhi kamil nahi--saaf zahir hay k agar kisi jhootay nay yeh dawat qabool ki to wo dunya or akhirat men tabah ho jaey ga.

 

(14) Jab men nay is Munazray men anti-Idrisia propaganda chalanay walon ki wazih shikast ka ailan kia to in munafiqon nay sharminda or naadim honay ki bajaey apni dhitai or hat-dharmi ka suboot detay huay ek or ochi harkat yeh ki k Shaikh Sahib k khilaf fizool bakwas or buhtan-goi par mabni do aur topic shuroo kar diay---yani in k khayal men yeh mamooli ana ka masla hay. Waqai laanati shakhs bay-his hota hay usay kuch samajh nahi aata. Laanat hay in propaganda karnay walon par.

 

(15) In gustakhon nay Meray Pir Sahib par kitnay barray barray jhootay ilzaam lagaey, meri walida ko behooda galian din, lekin men nay badlay men bhi na in k Pir Sahib ki bay-adabi ki (agar wo is jhootay propaganda ki pusht-panahi nahi kar rahay to men is baat par qaim hun k kisi k Pir ki bay-adabi nahin karni) or na in kay Walidain ki bay-adabi ki--saaf zahir hay k Nifaq kis taraf hay or Islam kis taraf.

 

(16) Buhtan-goi ziada barra gunah hay lekin baharhaal yeh log is say chotay lekin apnay taur par barray ek or gunah yani Gheebat k bhi murtakib ho rahay hen Shaikh Sahib k pichay un k khilaf baaten kar k.

 

(17) In logon ki kitni hi baton k jawab diay--Shaikh Sahib k Shaikh ka bataya, Marakash k Hazrat Ahmad bin Idris (jin k Shaikh Tazi or un k Shaikh mashoor Waliullah Shaikh Dabbagh thay), Silsila Idrisia k baray men bataya k is ki haqeeqat Noor-i-Muhammadi hay, tariqat ka falsafa samjhaya, kai andar ki baaten yani anvaar-o-tajalliyat k baray men isharay diay, lekin in propaganda karnay walon par koi asar na hua. Saaf zahir hay k in pathar-dil Munafiqon ko tareeqat ka kuch pata nahin.

 

(18) Mujhay 16 saal ho guy hen Syedi Amin k sath, men neh itni posts is forum men "Who is Shaikh Amin in Multan" topic men ki hen, or sunniforum men arius k nickname say ki hen, meri posts parrh kar apnay Imaan se khud faisla kar len k Shaikh Amin Sahib k is puranay shagird ki baton men Islam ka asar ziada nazar aata hay ya in bay-his propaganda chalanay walon ki bin-dekhay ki ilzaam tarashi or buhtan-goi men? Phir kehta hun k saaf zahir hay k Islam kis taraf hay or nifaq kis taraf.

 

(19) Hadith Sharif k mutabiq sacha kamil Musalman wo hay jis k hath or zaban say doosray Musalman mehfooz hon? In propaganda karnay walon ki bay-bunyad baten or buhtan-goi sun kar Shaikh Sahib k un sainkrron mureedon ko kitni taklif hui ho gi jinhon nay yeh bin-dekhay ki andhi kahi suni anti-Idrisia non-sense parrhi ho gi. Saaf zahir hay k in pathar-dil Munafiqon ko Islam ki spirit ka kuch pata nahi.

 

(20) Aik hi tarah ki fizool bakwas or jhootay ilzaam in logon nay kai sites par kiay hen--yeh propaganda nahi to aur kya hay?

 

(21) Haq chupana munafiq ki nishani hay--jab "anwar200" ki gandi galion walay akhri page hataey guy "Who is Shaikh Amin in Multan" topic se to meri posts bhi hata di gain. is k baad men nay jo topic shuroo kiay Gustakhan-i-Idrisia ki munaziray men shikast k baray men, kuch k bay-tukay jawab denay ki koshish ki gai lekin jab koi jawab ban na parra to wo topic bhi hata diay guy.

 

(22) Sawal yeh hay k aisi Shakhsiat jin k silsilay ki bunyad hi Darood Sharif, Adab-i-Rasul, Ishq-i-Rasul or Noor-i-Muhammadi ho (Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam), jin k asar se hazaron log shariat k mukamal pabund ho chukay hon or lakhon shariat ki taraf mail ho chukay hon, un k khilaf yeh is fizool or nuqsan-deh kaam men kyun itni mehnat kar rahay hen? Itni bay-bunyad or baysaropa baton ko itni der say yeh log kaisay phaila rahay hen? Or wo bhi khud Multan ja kar mamla dekhay baghair? Kya yeh log kisi aisay silsila men shamil hen jo Idrisia jitni tezi say nahi phail raha or is liay yeh log hasad ki aag men jal rahay hen ya koi aur hi masla hay? Kahin aisa to nahi k in munafiqon ko is kaam k Islam dushman anasir ki taraf say paisay mil rahay hen? (Wa-Allahu alam). Baharhal, yeh log agar Musalman hotay to koi baat karnay say pehlay ja kar Mamlay ki khud tasdeeq kartay. yeh to duniyavi sahafat ka bhi bunyadi usool hay k kisi khabar say mutaliq jab tak dono taraf ka bayan samnay na aa jaey usay musadiqa nahi samjha jata, yehi to propaganda hota hay k khud hi kisi baat ki jaisay ulti-sidhi samajh aey usi khayal ki bunyad par shor machana shuroo kar dia jaey. yehi farq hota hay khabar or propaganda men, itila or afwah men, sach or jhoot men, or Musalman or munafiq men-- Musalman thos Haqeeqat tak puhnchna chahta hay -- koi baat sunnay k baad usay ankhon se dekhta hay, phir dil ki kasoti par parakhta hay, jab us ka apna dil man leta hay phir hi us baat ki tabligh karta hay, lekin Munafiq kahi-suni jhooti-sachi (jis ko us ka apna dil bhi puri tarah nahi maan raha hota) ko hi lay kar baghair tasdeeq kiay aagay phailana shuroo kar deta hay -- Hadith Sharif k mutabiq aadmi k jhoota honay k liay yehi kafi hay k wo suni sunai baat ko aagay bayan kar day.

 

Agar in baton ka tum log jawab day saktay ho to do warna yeh to sabit ho hi chuka hay k Shaikh Amin Sahib ki gustakhi karnay walay log munafiq hen yani Shaikh Sahib k Silsila Idrisia ki bay-adabi bhi nifaq ki aik shakal hay.

Edited 19 ستمبر 2009 by bud

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Tum se sawalat kiye thay bohat ajzee se piyar wo mahabat se saaf niyat ke sath (who is sheikh amin ) ki thread per post no 182 aur 183 ko dekh lo phir se tum ne os ikhlaq wo mohabat ki post ka jawab

 

Yeh diya ke hum beyadab hain aik walli ki izaat nahi karte waghra tum ne humray jawab dainay ki bajaye ulta humaray ajzee walay sawal per ghusa wo ilzam lagana shoro kar diya kiyon ke tum

 

Jawab nahi day sktay thay.is ke ilwa pehlay mein ne sheikh amin ko ghustakh sabat kiya os ke baad

 

Mein net um se sawal kiya ke batwo ke Aqa ji ko jo banda Allah ka nafarman kehay wo ghustakh ha ya nahi ?tum se sawal kia ke sheikh amin kehta ha ke bhanra Aqa ji ki sunaat ha tum batawo ke tum kia kehtay ho tum ne han ya na meh bi jawab nahi diya ulta tum muj ko jhota kehnay lagay.

 

Tum ne dawa kia ke sh amin imam masjid tha jab os ka address talab kia to bi tum jhotay sabat howay address na day kar.

 

Mein ne tum ko likha ke aksar website per likha ha ke sheikh amin 30 sal tak imam tha on website ke link daye tum ko to aj se pehlay tum ko yad na aya ke 30 nahi 20 sal ki imamat ha is liye abhi bi

 

On website per 30 sal ka hi likha ha jaldi se on website se 30 remove karwa lo aur 20 likh do

 

Is liye aksariat ko mad nazar rekhtay howay mein to 30 sal hi likhon ga ya pehlay 30 ko remove kar ke 20 likh do on site per.tum muj per 30 sal key a 20 sal ke mamlay per itraz nahi kar sktay ager karma hi ha to on website per ja kar kro jahan 30 likha howa ha,

 

Ab mein ne tumhari maan ko jo kuch keha ha os par bi tum ko aik muslman honay ko hasiyat se itraz nahi karma chahye kiyon ke tum ko sawal kiya tha k ager tum halali ho to jawab do jawab na day kar tum ne khud hi sabat kiya ke tum kon ho mein ne pehlay tum ko aur sheikh amin ko ghustakh sabat kia ha aur phir ghustakh per qurani hakom ka likha ha.aj bi mayra yeh hi mokaaf ha ke jo ghustakh ha wo h……. hi ha tum ne yeh ghustakhi ki ha ke tum sheikh amin ki kehi ghustakhion ko aain haq mantay ho sheikh amin to khud apni ghaliz zuban se iqrar kar raha ha ke wo Aqa ji ki beadabi karta ha karam ke takazay meh aa kar (maz Allah)

 

Aur tum phir bi os ki baat ko raad nahi karte bal ke os ko walli kehtay ho is liye tum bi ghustakh ho

 

Aur khuda ki qasam ghustakh ki maan……………………………….

 

Ager tum ko apni maa ki izaat piyari hoti to ghustakhi ko ghustakhi mantay sheikh amin ki Aqa ji ki nibaat tohino ko raad karte to phir ager tum ko ya tumhari maan …………. To sab se pehlay mein tumhara sath dayta aur tum ko galli daynay walay ko ghalat kehta.

 

Yar badsha ab bi kuch nahi howa awo ager tum ko apni maan se mohabat ha to tum ko os mohabat ka wasta ha bolo ke bhangra Aqa ji ki sunaat ha ya nahi? Is ka jawab han ya na meh day do?

 

Bolo ke jo banda Aqa ji ko Allah ka nafarman yeh keh kar kare ke kafron ke jinazay ada karte thay Allah on ko assa karnay se rokta bi tha (maz Allah) bato assa banda tumhari nazar meh ghustakh ha ya nahi aur ghustakh H hota ha ya nahi?

 

Ager tum ko apni maan se is qadar mohabat ha to os masjid ka address lay awo?

 

Ager tum ko apni maan se mohabat ha to hum sunnion ko bi Aqa ji se mohabat ha aur jo kohi bi on

 

Ki ghustakhi kare ga hum sunni os ko benaqab kar dain gay os ko zalil o ruswa kar dain gay insha Allah.tum kiya is khush fehmi meh ho ke sab ne sheikh amin ki ghustakhiyan suon bi li hain aur kisi ne os ko abhi tak raad nahi kiya to jaan lo ke jis din ullama ahle sunaat ko sheikh amin ke mutaliq yeh batin malom ho gain to khuda ki qasam tum logon ko sar chopanay ke liye kohi jaga nahi milay gee.yad rekho dair ho skti ha andhar nahi

 

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kai din baad kal ye site nazar se guzri to "anwar200" ka jawab parrh kar khayal aaya k waqai bay-hisi or dhitai ki koi had nahi hoti--koi sacha Musalman hota to ab tak sharam say chulu bhar pani men doob chuka hota ya kam-az-kam is naam se phir post na karta lekin is shakhs ko itna bhi nazar nahi aa raha k yeh apni baton se khud zaleel-o-ruswa ho raha hay.

 

aakhir yeh sabaq is jahil nay kahan se sikha hay k kisi bhi sayyaq-o-sabaq men logon ki maon ko galian denay or un par buhtan laganay ka koi jawaz ho sakta hay? Islam to yeh nahin sikhata. Islam to kafiron se jang men bhi aurton or boorhon par raham sikhata hay, yahan to phir bhi meray Aal-i-Rasool khandan ki baat ho rahi hay jin ki sharafat ki log misalen detay hen. lekin munafiq ko Islam ki kya samajh? Aulia ki bay-adabi karnay walay in munafiqon ki to bas itni hi samajh hay k kutton ki tarah bhonktay rahen apnay bay-mani propaganda k sath.

 

in logon ka propaganda is liay ab tak chal raha hay k:

 

(1) Shaikh Amin Sahib North Africa say shuroo honay walay Silsila Idreesia k Pakistan men tashrif laanay walay pehlay buzurg hen or is silsila ko is mulk men aksar log nahi jaantay (k is silsila ka aghaz or anjaam Noor-i-Muhammadi hay (Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam), is silsila men Aqa Ji ki buht ziarat hoti hay, kuch ko jaagtay men bhi ziarat hoti hay or Aqa Ji ki us Hadith ki tasdiq hoti hay k "Jo mujhay sotay dekhay ga wo jaagtay dekhay ga"--yeh zahiri ziarat ki baat hay, baatni ziarat to usay mustaqil hoti hay jo is Silsila se jurra ho).

 

(2) Shaikh Sahib ishtehar-bazi ko napasand kartay hen, farmatay hen k tareeqat shuhrat ka rasta nahi, kabhi un k murid bachon ki tarah laad or zid kar k koi ishtehar lagwanay ki ijazat hasil kar bhi len to us men apna naam shamil nahi karnay detay

 

(3) Shaikh Sahib nay abhi tak Silisila ki official website ki ijazat nahi di, ika duka bhai apnay taur par hi taaruf k liay kuch sites banatay rehtay hen

 

(4) Shaikh Sahib nay apnay muridon ko is propaganda ka jawab denay se bhi mana kar dia hay (men ek khas wajah se jawab day paya hun warna men bhi na de sakta)

 

(5) tareeqat k saray achay alqabat Shaikh Sahib par fit aatay hen lekin wo apnay aap ko aam taur par sirf "Shaikh Shahib" kehlwatay hen

 

zahiri ilm men to men wuhi baat kar sakta hun jo men nay khud kanon say suni ho, ya ankhon se dekhi ho, to yeh kahan ka usool hay k agar koi baat meray zahiri ilm men nahi to meri walida ko galian di jaen? ek baat khud se meray sar pay thopi jaey k agar tum nay aisa nahi kiya to... or galian deni shuroo kar di jaen. Men batata hun yeh kahan ka usool hay --yeh munafiqat ki bay-yaqeeni ka usool hay k baat men wazan na ho to wazan paida karnay k liay is tarah ki khwamakhwa ki bakwas ki jaey or wo bhi itnay bhonday or jahilana or zaleel andaaz say.

 

Pehlay bhi keh chuka hun k kisi gustakh k kehnay par men ne nahi chalna--kisi gustakh k kehnay par gustakhi or nafrat ki bunyad par koi justujo nahin karni yeh bay-adabi hay kyun k Shaikh Amin Sahib mujasim muhabat hen un k baray men justujo sirf muhabat hi ki bunyad par karna adab k dairay men aata hay. ba-adab ba-nasib bay-adab bay-naseeb. jo Haq ka sacha talib hay wo khud adab k sath justujo karay Sialkot ya Multan men.

 

Or mera batni ilm yeh hay k Shaikh Sahib ki har baat ko sunay baghair bhi men is liay Haq keh sakta hun k mujhay Allah nay un ka batin dikhaya hay jo noor hi noor hay (Wallah, Billah, Allah ki Qasam) or kyun k amal ka dar-o-madar niyat par hota hay is liay dawa say yeh keh sakta hun k Shaikh Sahib nay jo bhi kaha ho ga wo us sayyaq-o-sabaq men, us paraiy men, us context men, us mafhoom men jis men wo baat kar rahay hon gay Haq hi ho ga.

 

 

 

 

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tum ne dawa kia ke sheikh amin imam masjid tha hum ne to os ko imam masjid nahi likh ?is liye propoganda wali baat to wo hoti ha jo muhalif kehay ab is per humara haq ha ke sheikh amin jis masjid meh ap logon ke mutabiq imam tha jo humari nazar meh aik jhot ho skta ha kiyon ke ap logon ne beshomar jhot bolay hain is liye ap ke dawa per shaq ha ap se araz ki thee ke sheikh amin jis masjid meh imam tha os ka pura address likh dain jo ke ap ne nahi diya jis se sabat hota ha ke sheikh amin ghatiya shoraat ke liye jhot bolta ha ap os masjid ka address day do saab ko haqeeqat malom ho jaye gee masjid ka address tum nahi day paye jo ke tum logon ka hi dawa ha baqi aur kis baat par tum debate kar sktay ho?masjid ka address day do ta ke tumharay dawa ki tasdiq ho jaye

address na danay se sabat hota ha ke tum log jhotay ho aur jo jhota hota ha wo walli nahi hota.

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Zahir hay k meri baton ka in logon k paas koi jawab nahi.

 

Anti-Idrisia propaganda chalanay walon k nifaq ki 22 nishanian ginwa chuka hun, isi forum par "Who is Shaikh Amin in Multan" nami topic say in logon k munafiq honay k mazid kuch sabut yaad karata chalun:

 

(23) "Who is Shaikh Amin in Multan" nami topic men post no.97(page 5) men "anwar200" naam say post kar rahay shakhs nay Quran k alfaaz "Wajh-Allah" (Face of God) ko (Nauzu-Billah) kufar kaha, is tarah ye shakhs khud kafir ho gaya. is shakhs nay ek Waliullah Momin ko kafir kaha tha or Hadith Sharif k mutabiq momin ko kafir kehnay se kehnay wala khud kafir ho jata hay--yeh khuli nishani sab nay dekhi k Momin par kufar ki tuhmat is shakhs par wapis palti or Quran k alfaaz ko kufar keh kar ye buhtan-go khud kafir ho gaya

 

(24) jo bay-adab "Mustafa Ali" k pakeeza nam se post kartay huay napaak buhtan laga raha tha (Nauzu-Billah) us ne post no. 115 (p.6) men mujhay "old man" kaha yani us k khiyal men men ek barri umar ka shakhs tha, lekin phir post no. 121 (p.7)men mujhay kaha k "you are a little cat indeed" ("tum waqai ek choti billi ho") jis se sabit ho gaya k barron ka adab is shakhs men nahi --yeh is shakhs k bay-adab honay ki khuli nishani sab dekh saktay hen.

 

(25) is shakhs k nifaq ki ek or nishani post no. 104(p.6) men show ki thi

 

(26) "Mustafa Ali" k pakeeza naam say post kartay huay (Nauzu-Billah) yeh ganda propaganda chalanay walay is napak buhtan-go munafiq shakhs nay post no.171(p.9) men buhat munafiqana andaaz se "women and drinks" (auraten or sharaab) ka jhoota ilzaam lagaya or phir post no.173(p.9) men mazid munafiqana abdaaz say is buhtan ka bay-saropa jawaz pesh kia jis ka mafhoom ye tha k kyun-k tauba (maafi or rahmat) ki umeed par chal rahay hen is liay kuch bhi kar saktay hen (Nauzu-Billah).

yeh to sirf ek topic "Who is Shaikh Amin in Multan" ka zikar hay or wo topic bhi abhi men nay is dar se pura nahi parrha k in munafiqon k mazid jhootay ilzaam or mazid gustakhian parrh kar mazid taklif ho gi warna shaed in logon k nifaq ki kai or nishanian nazar aa jatin (doosray forums par men nay in propaganda chalanay walon k nifaq ki aur nishanian dekhin hen, misal k taur pay "masabih" forum walay to Haq chupanay men itna tez hen k men ne us forum par Shaikh Sahib ka taaruf kai bar post karnay ki koshish ki lekin doobara jata to meri post hati hoti) phir bhi mera khayal hay k Haq k sachay talibon or samajhdaron k liay yeh kuch kafi ho ga jo men likh chuka hun baqi wo khud Multan ja kar dekh len gay (Insha-Allah).

 

Ek choti si misal se in k saray propaganda ki "bunyad" ya bay-bunyadi chaupat ho jati hay--jis tarah ki baten la kar ye log Nabuwat k daway jaisa barra buhtan laga rahay hen wo bilkul aisay hay jaisay koi insaan ashraful-mukhlooqat honay ka dawa karay to us par nabuwat k daway ka ilzaam laga dia jaey--halan-k zi-aqal shakhs yeh janta hay k ashraful-makhluqat hona bhi anvaar ya reflected light ya munaks roshni hi ki shakal hay--noor ya roshni lakhon ainon se munaks (reflect) ho kar bhi apni asal nahi khoti or na hi aks asal ban jata hay.

 

Yeh anti-Idrisia propaganda chalanay walay jhootay ilzaam laganay walay munafiq hen--munafiq hi Shaitan se sulah karta hay or sulah-kulli kehlaya ja sakta hay is liay in badmazhab logon ka rad zaruri hay.

 

Aulia ki gustakhi karnay walon ko men ne ye aina dikhanay ki koshish ki hay k Aulia ki bay-adabi nifaq ban kar kaisay chehra maskh kar deti hay, men nay apni taraf se zamir jhanjhorrnay ki koshish ki hay, aagay in logon ka naseeb. ye is forum par meri shaid aakhri chand posts hon kyun-k men Multan jaanay wala hun wahan say roohani taur par fresh ho kar aon ga to in taklif-deh baaton ko dekhna bhi gawara na ho ga (jab tak Shaikh Sahib ka hukm na ho).

 

Men anti-Idrisia or anti-Syedi propaganda chalanay walon par tabarra bhejtay huay is propaganda se apni bariat ka izhar karta hun.

 

Haq k sachay talib k liay meri wasiat hay k agar kam-naseebi se in logon ka propaganda parrhnay ka itefaq hua ho to khush-naseebi k liay sirf ek baar Multan ja kar khud Shaikh Sahib ko zaroor dekhna. Ba'adab hi banaseeb hota hay.

 

Achay pakeeza sachay Ashiq-i-Rasul Momin Waliullah Syedi Amin zindabad. Noorani Silsila Idreesia zindabad.

 

Rab-i-adkhilni mudkhala sidqin-wa akhrijni mukhraja sidqin-wajali mi(n)-Ladunka sultana-naseera.

Edited 28 ستمبر 2009 by bud

[Anwar200]

jhooton per Allah ki lanaat beyshomar tum itnay diith ho ke kohi mantaq ya asol tum ko asar nahi ha bar bar tum sabat karte ho ke tum wo hi jis ka quran meh hawala ha ke ghustakh kon hota ha.sawalon ke jawab tum nahi day rahay aur ulta hum ko ilzaam daytay ho aur wo bi jhot par?tum itnay baray jhotay ho ke jo chiz tum sabat bi nahi kar sktay aur jis ki bunyad bi nahi ha aur phir sonay pe sohaga yeh ke jis baat ka ilzaam laga rahay ho ke anwar ne qurani ki ayat per kafar ki baat ki ha to yeh pori post 97 yahan paste karta hon jis mein meh ne likh ke Allah ki tashbi kufar ha kia tum log sheikh amin ko Allah nahi kehtay?sabot ke tor per tum phir se soun lo ke saaf tor per sheikh amin ko idrisi Allah kehtay hain

kaisay chooron dar tara Allah ha to phir is link ko dekh lo sheikh amin apnay khuda hony ka dawa kar raha ha

 

is liye ke sheikh amin to khud ko Allah kehta ha aur tum log os ko nabi bi kehtay ho Allah bi kehtay ho jis per mein ne tum ko likha tha ke Allah ki tashbi kufar ha ab tum khud batwa ke tum jhotay ho ya nahi?Posted 20 December 2008 - 03:02 PM

 

You have not come with the answer i asked?

 

Ya wajh Allah ya wajh nabi mean the face of Allah and the

 

Face of nabi.

 

To describe Allah with face or any of his creations is kufar.

Bad az khuda in hi ko pujiye ? is undeniable kufar of sheikh amin.

 

Yes he is kafar and after knowing sheikh amin’s kafar you call him a momin

 

It is kufar as well because islam and kufar are to different things.

 

You better go and bring the answer and then we can talk about the other issues

ab tum phir se jhotay sabat ho chokay ho ab asal baat par awo ke jis masjid meh wo imam tha os ka address kiyon nahi likhtay?

ya to address likh do ya qabol kar lo ke sheikh amin jhota ha.

zahir ha ke tum jhotay ho ghustakh ho tum kia jawab do gay?tum ko to apnay halali honay ka wasta ha os masjid ka address likh do

jis meh sheikh amin imam tha?ab bi tum ne ager jawab na diya to phir tum ko khud hi apnay khandan ki izaat ka khiyal nahi to phir

dosron ko to ilzaam na do na?jawab lay awo dawa bi tum ne kiya ha ke sheikh amin imam masjid tha to phir address likh do hahaha

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Ya wajh Allah ya wajh nabi mean the face of Allah and the

 

Face of nabi.

 

To describe Allah with face or any of his creations is kufar.

Fa-ainama tuwalu fathama Wajh-Allah (Surah Baqara--Quran)

 

Wajh-Shaikh Wajh-Shaikh hay, Wajh-Nabi Wajh-Nabi hay, Wajh-Allah Wajh-Allah hay.

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asal tauheedi sirf tauheed parrhnay walay nahi, asal tauheedi tauheed pinay walay Muhammadi hen, hum Idrisi hen asal Muhammadi asal Tauheedi (Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam), jo chiz log kitabon men mauzoo (subject) k taur par parrhtay hen wo chiz Idrision ko haqeeqat (object) k taur par Nigah-i-Shaikh k zariay nazar ati or mehsoos hoti hay (Masha-Allah).

Edited 29 ستمبر 2009 by bud

[Anwar200]

kutay ki doom wala mamla ha bud taira tu sidha nahi ho ga besharami

ki bi had hoti ha.tu ager a ka hota to jis masjid meh sheikh amin ka tum imam kehtay ho os ka address likh daytay.mara abhi bi tum per yeh hi sawal ha ke os masjid ka address do ?tu jo marzi ha kar laye likin tum ko masjid ka address likhna hi ho ga?

jaldi se masjid ka address day ta ke sab ko malom ho ke tu waqi a

ka ha .

[Qadri Sultani]

 

Janab e Muhtram Anwar Bhai u r doing a great job.Aap in idreesion ko sahi bay naqab kar rahay hain.Laikan in bay ghairton main ghairat naam ke koi cheez hay he nahi.

 

Allah aap ko jazay khair ata farmay.Aameen

 

 

 

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qadri bahi haqeeqat yeh ha ke sheikh amin aur os ka tola Nabi paak per bohat ziyada tohin kar rahay hain in ka tariqa yeh ke ke yeh logon ko dadrod sharif ke naam per phastay hain aur sheikh amin sare amm

nabi paak ki shan meh bay adabi karta ha (maz Allah) yeh is waqat saab se bara shatam nabi ha ap utube per saab video soun lain ap ko phir malom ho ga ke yeh banda kis qadar tohin rasalat kar raha ha.

yeh vidoe saon lain is meh sh amin khud ko Aqa ji keh raha ha aur amire dawate islami ko riya kar bi keh raha ha.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qX_PL5SR2g

is video meh sheikh amin saaf tor per keh raha ke wo janta ha wo aqa ji ka be adab ha likin wo yeh be adabi karam ke takaza meh ho kar karta hahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYKwaZy8yGA

yeh bohat bara ghustakh nabi ha wajib ul qatal ha khuda ke liye sab ullama ko is fitna ke bare meh aghi dain.

[bud]

Kya tum chah rahay ho k men bhi tumhen usi tarah galian dun jis tarah tum log mujhay de rahay ho? meray maan baap se barrh kar Shaikh par itnay barray buhtan laga rahay ho? Lekin mujhay apni Idrisi nisbat ki ghairat hay, adab hay--yahan farq saaf zahir ho jata hay Momin or munafiq men, ghairat-mand or ....... men -- tum log apni hi baton se pehchanay jatay ho.

 

Pehlay bhi keh chuka hun k men sirf apnay ilm k mutabiq baat karun ga, kisi gustakh k kehnay par chal kar gustakhi, buhtan-goi or nafrat ki bunyad par koi ilm hasil nahi karna. Kya tumharay khayal men is tarah meri Walida Muhtarma ko or mujhay galian day kar tum mujhay koi aisi baat karnay par majboor kar do gay jo men bay-adabi samajhta hun? is kameenay andaaz se maango k to tumhen tumharay sawal ka jawab mil jaey ga? Tumhari aqalon par pathar parray huay hen?

 

Tum munafiqon ki bay-hisi ka ye alam hay k is topic k mutabiq jo men nay sawal uthaey un men se kisi ka jawab nahi dia balkay apnay khilaf mazid sabut detay rahay ho k waqai "Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen"--tumharay andaaz-i-guftugu or tumhari baaton hi se ye baat saaf zahir hay

[Anwar200]

are bud tum apnay demagh ka ilaj karwo tum se bara diith aur munafiq kohi qadyani hi ho skta ha.dawa tum ne kia ke sheikh amin imam masjid tha yeh dawa karte waqat os ghustakh sheikh se ijazaat li thee tum ne? ya tum nye apnay ilm ke hisaab se

dawa kia tha aur wo bi jhota hahaha tum ko yeh to ilam tha ke sheikh amin masjid ka imam ha to ab apnay hi ilam ka istamal kro aur likh do na os masjid ka address?

tum se jawab hasil karny ke liye tum ko Allah aur Nabi (pbuh) ka bi wasta diya tha kia wo hi kafi wasta nahi hota aik momin ky liye?

tum ko tumharay sayed honay ka wasta diya ke address likh do likin jawab na daraid aur last meh tum ko tang aa kar tumhari asal ka wasta diya ke address likh do likin tum ne khud hi sabat kar diya jo mera andasha tha.ab ager tuj per Allah Nabi ke wastay ka kohi asar nahi to phir tu apnay ap ko momin bi kehta ha?tum kis dalil se yahan debate karte ho are ager tairi jaga kohi baray se bara beghairat bi hota to aik waqat meh aa kar likh dayta ke masjid ka address kiya ha ya qabol kar layta ke sheikh amin jhota ha likin tum to is qadar diith aur behis wo beghairat sabot howay ho ke jis ki misaal puri duniya meh nahi ho gee.chal tum ne jitni bi beghairti wo besharami ka mozhra kia os ka hisab to to Allah se paye ga hi ke os ke moqdas naam ke waste bi tum ne address na likha ab ager tu waqi mard ha to aa aik baat ka sacha wada kar ke ager mein (anwar200)ager yeh sabot kar don ke sheikh amin madinah meh kisi bi masjid ka imam nahi tha to batwo ke os ke baad tum sheikh amin ko jhota mano gay ya nahi? aa jawab day is baat per hi faisila ho jaye ga ke kon jhota ha aur kon nahi jhota?aa daar na mard ban aur jawab day?

[bud]

Kya is shakhs ka dimagh bilkul hi jawab de gaya hay? kya is k khayal men ek buhtango bay-adab munafiq ki kisi baat ki meri nazar men koi hasiat ho sakti hay? or wo bhi ek Waliullah k qaul k muqabila men?

 

samajhdar log chawal ka ek dana dekh kar puri deg pehchan letay hen men to 20 se ziada dikha chuka hun-- samajhnay walay samajh guy hon gay k Shaikh Sahib or Silsila Idrisia k khilaf propaganda chalanay walay in logon ka kya level hay. in munafiqon ka makrooh chehra bay-naqab honay k baad kisi bhi sachay Musalman ki nazar men in ki kisi baat ki koi hasiat nahi ho sakti

 

apni galion buhtanon k jahanum men jaltay hi rehna.

 

Hum Idrisi aisay logon or in ki baton se Allah ki panah pakarrtay hen--Nauzu Billah

Edited 1 اکتوبر 2009 by bud

[Anwar200]

bhairat jhota diith beshram H hony ke liye kisi sanad ki to kohi zaroorat nahi hoti bas os ki batin aur harkaat se insan samj jata ha ke yeh kia chiz ha kon ha kahan se bolta ha to bud tairi batin hi kafi hain ke tairi asilayat janay ke liye.

aik baat bata ke kia tum ne itni ziyada post likhay on ka kia maqsad tha ?ager tu yeh kehta ha ke aqal mand ke liye ishara kafi hota ha to phir is liye tu mayri baton ka jawab nahi dayta to zahir ha tu aqal mand nahi ha ke bar bar zalil hony ke liye post likh raha ha aur her bar tairi post meh kohi wazan bi nahi hota ulta to khud bi H sabat ho choka ha.ab tum bato ke ager meh yeh

kehon ke bud qadyani ha to tu haq to rekhta ha ke muj se jawab talab kare ke mein sabat kron ke tu kis buniyad per tum ko qadyani keh reha hon?

ager bil farz mein tum ko munafaq likhon to bata tu muj se yeh nahi puchay ga ke mayri munafqat ka sabot do?

ager mein tum ko H likho to tu muj se nahi pucho gay ke sabat kro?

ager mein tum ko choor,jhota,kafar beyghiarat likh to tu is ki waja nahi pucho gaay?

mein samjta hon ke yeh sab baton ko janay ka tum ko haq ha tum ko haq ha ke jo kuch mein tum ko kehon tum ko haq ha ke os ka sabot tum muj se talab kron.

tumhara kia khilal ha?is ka jawab do na?

[bud]

hahaha

 

is bar yeh nahi likha?

[bud]

jis laad or maan ke bal per aap ne itna kuch likh dya, ussi laad aur maan ke ball per uss Sialkoti janab se uss Masjid ka address bhi le lijiye. Aur iss mein koi be'adabi nahi, na shara'ee lihaaz se aur na dunyawi lihaaz se. Umeed hai ke jawab jald aye ga.

 

Masjid Abdul Rahim Uwaiza, Hara Manshiyah, Medina --Masjid-i-Nabvi k Bab-u-Salaam se jo road ja rahi hay us par yeh masjid hay, is masjid k Al-Shaikh Al-Hafiz Syedi Amin bin Abdul Rahman 20 saal tak Imam rahay (yeh Multan k ek Bhai say maloomat hasil ki, Allah mujhay maaf karay kyun-k mujhay jo adab sikhaya gaya hay us k mutabiq in circumstances men ye ilm hasil na hi karta --lekin Shaikh Sahib ki shafqat ki wajah se ye liberty lay li hay, Insha-Allah wo mujhay maaf kar den gay--Astaghfir-Ullah)

Edited 2 اکتوبر 2009 by bud

[Anwar200]

pehly idrisiyon ne likha tha ke sheikh amin kazab masjid hazrat abu bakar meh sheikh amin 30 sal imam tha.

phir likha ke masjid an-noor meh 30 sal imam tha aur yeh sab jhot sheikh amin shatam-e- nabi ki website per hain

link dekh lain http://www.islamimeh...n/page__st__180 post 185

aur ab bud sahib ko on ke kisi namalom bahi ne kuch nayi malomat di hain aur bud sahib