Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 1 اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 CQ sahab ki bokhlahatt qabil e deed hay..koi jawab to hay nahi inke pass ..bas barke maarna ata hay inko..agar CQ sahab ke maslak mein itna dam hota to ye abuzaib bhai ki post ka to the point jawab daykar muh band kar dete , na ke shor machana shroo karte..Abu Ya'ala ki hadees jis se aap chimat kar bethe thay jo hayat un Nabi se mutaliq wahid poonji thi aap log ki , Imam Habban ne wo bhi khatam kardi , ab to kuch bacha hi nahi pallu mein.. sirf shor machana bacha hay .... tumko challenge hay to the point jawab daykar batao.. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 CQ sahab ..jee haan aajkal ke zamane mein alhamdulillah Momin hein aur aap jaysay mushrikeen se jihad bil qalam kar rahay hein magar TANAZAH kam hone ke bajaey barhata ja raha hay .. ab is TANAZAH ko Rasool Allah ke saamne pesh karna hay ...takay masla hal ho..aur hamara tanazah khatam ho.. to phir iske liye kia kia jaey , kaysay is maslay ko Rasool Allah ke saamne pesh karin takay masla hal ho??? اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 Najdio Jawab mojood hay laikan yahan nahi Hayat Un Nabi(saw) walay topic par.....Bhagay kyon thay wahan say???Tum wahhabion say wahan kitni bara kaha gya tha keh NAMAZ PARNA JISM KA KAAM HAY YA ROOH KA???Aaj tak kisi b ghairat mand wahhabi nay jawab nahi dia to the point.......Main nay pehlay b kaha aur ab b kahon ga keh yahan is topic par bat he nahi ho ge laikan ............DEEDA E KOR KO KYA NAZAR AAY KYA DAIKHAY.... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 Najdio Jawab mojood hay laikan yahan nahi Hayat Un Nabi(saw) walay topic par.....Bhagay kyon thay wahan say???Tum wahhabion say wahan kitni bara kaha gya tha keh NAMAZ PARNA JISM KA KAAM HAY YA ROOH KA???Aaj tak kisi b ghairat mand wahhabi nay jawab nahi dia to the point.......Main nay pehlay b kaha aur ab b kahon ga keh yahan is topic par bat he nahi ho ge laikan ............DEEDA E KOR KO KYA NAZAR AAY KYA DAIKHAY.... Abhi sab chorein filhaal Abuzaib sahab ke sawalon ka jawab dein..yahan wahan ki bohot karte ho.. Abuzaib bhai ke sawalon ka jawab dein..faraar ki kosish na karein.. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 5 نومبر 2009 Aik baat to sabit ho gai ke tumharay pass in sawalon ka koi jawab nahi hay..tum kia tumharay baray bhi iska jawab nahi day sakte ..wasay ye policy bohot zabardast hay aap logonki ke kuch intahai fazool qisim ke sawalat kardo jin sawalon ka koi sir pair na ho, phir haqeeqat se faraar ka bohot acha tareeqa hay ke pehlay hamare fazool sawlon ke jawab do phir hum dengay...well..well.welll اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RadiatingAli مراسلہ: 6 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 6 نومبر 2009 Aqeedah e Tawassul/Waseelah: Behas sirf ikhtilaafi maslay per hogi, kissi aur pehloo per nahin, yeni Allah kay asma o sifaat kay saath pukarna weghera per nahin, sirf us tareekay per jis ka Wahabiyoon aur Deobandiyoon ko Shirk ka dora perta heh. Ahle Sunnat Wal Jammat dua e Wasilah istera banatay hen (bator e Misaal): "Ya Allah apnay piyaray Nabi Muhammed Sallalahu alayhi Was salam kay sadkay, apnay is mehboob Wali kay sadkay, ya Allah agar tum ko yeh banda mehboob thah toh phir is piyaray mehboob kay sadkay, ya Illahi piyaray nabi kay Ummati honay kay sadkay say meri yeh dua qabool farma, meray yeh guna baksh deh." Ahle Sunnat Wal Jammat ka mowaqif heh kay esay tareekay say dua kerna jaiz heh, joh esay tareekay say dua nahin kerta us per kohi hokam nahin, magar joh is kism kee dua ko Biddat, Shirk, Kuffr tehrata heh, woh Kaffir heh. Wahabi is per hokam laga denh, kay esa tareekay say Allah say dua kerna, Shirk heh Biddat heh, kufr heh, Mushrik heh, Kaffir, heh Biddati heh, shariat meh is kism kee dua kee hasiyat bata denh. Muhammed Ali Razavi اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abuzaid مراسلہ: 7 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 7 نومبر 2009 بسم اللہ الرحمن الرحیم صرف یااللہ سبحانہ تعالی مدد انماالمشرکون نجس (سورہ توبہ) پوسٹ نمبر ۱۱۱ کا جواب انورصاحب نے اپنی پوسٹ نمبر ۷۲ میں ایک سوال کیا جسمیں آیت پوری نہیں لکھی اور نہ ہی اس آیت کا حوالہ دیا میں نے اس آیت کو بحوالہ پوری یہاں تحریرکردی اس کے بعد انورصاحب نے اپنی پوسٹس ۷۵؛۷۹؛۸۳؛۹۰؛۹۴؛۹۵ اور ۱۰۰میں اپنے خیالات کا اظہارمختلف انداز میں کیا لیکن انورصاحب نے کہیں بھی اپنی کسی پوسٹ میں یہ ذکرنہیں کیا کہ جو آیت میں نے (ابوزید) لکھی ہے ان کے سوال کی بنیاد وہ آیت ہے ہی نہیں جسکا واضح معنی سواءے اسکے اور کیا ہے کہ انہوں نے میری طرف سے بیان کردہ آیت کو ہی صحیح جانا اورانکے ذہن میں بھی وہی تھی ورنہ میری پوسٹ نمبر ۷۴ کے بعد یا ۷۷ کے بعد یا ۸۱ کے بعد یا ۸۵ کے بعد یا ۹۷ کے بعد ضرور انورصاحب یہ کہتے کہ انکی بیان کردہ ادھوری آیت وہ ہے ہی نہیں جو کہ ابوزید نے بیان کی ہے۔ اب آنکھیں ملتے ہوءے ہڑبڑاتے ہوءے کوءی سعیدی صاحب ہیں جو کہ یہاں آگءے ہیں اور اپنے جاہل ہمنواوں کے سامنے قدآور بننے کے لیے میرے سوالات کے جوابات دینے کے بجاءے راہ فرار کا ایک نیا طریقہ یہ اختیار کیا کہ ایک نیا راگ الاپنا شروع کردیا کہ نہیں نہیں وہ آیت نہیں تھی جس پر بحث چل نکلی ہے بلکہ آیت تو دوسری ہے اب ان صاحب کا انداز تحریر بھی دیکھ لیں بلکل بنی اسراءیل کی ہی طرح ہے پوری قرآن کی آیت اس شخص نے بھی نہیں لکھی ادھوری لکھ چھوڑی اور خوب خوب لفاظی کی پناہ ڈھونڈناشروع کردی۔ اورادھوری آیت پیش کرکے حوالہ بھی نہیں لکھا کہ کہیں چوری نہ پکڑی جاءے بلکہ اس پر طرہ یہ کہ ترجمہ کرتے ہوءے آیت کو ہی تبدیل کردیا۔اسی کو کہتے ہیں کہ خود کو نہیں بدلتے قرآن کو بدل دیتے ہیں استغفراللہ استغفراللہ استغفراللہ اور لفظ ’مسءلہ” کی آڑ لیکرفرار ہونے کی بھرپورکوشش جاری ہے لیکن اوہ بریلوی مشرکوں میں تم لوگوں کوچھوڑنے والا نہیں ہوں انشاء اللہ یا تو تنگ آکر اس تھریڈ کو ہی لاجواب ہوکر دیگرتھریڈ کی طرح بند کردوگے یا ڈلیٹ کردو گے لیکن میرے سوالوں کے جوابات دینے کی حسرت انشاءاللہ تعالی تمہارے ساتھ قبر میں ہی اترے گی۔ سعیدی مشرک کی قرآن کی آیت نقل کرنے میں بھی خیانت؛ ۱) آیت ادھوری لکھی ۲) ادھوری آیت میں بھی تحریف کی اور آیت یہ لکھی ولوانھم اذ ظلمو ا جاءوک جبکہ آیت کے الفاظ یہ ہیں ولوانھم اذاظلمواانفسھم جاءوک ؛ ادھوری آیت میں بھی لفظ ”انفسھم” کو نہیں لکھا۔ ۳) حوالہ نہیں دیا ۴) ترجمہ بھی اپنی مرضی سے کیا ۵) قرآن میں بیان لفظ ”ظلموا” کا ترجمہ ’مسءلہ” کیا ( احمد رضا کو بھی یہ ترجمہ نہ سوجھا جواس کے ہمنواسعیدی کو سوجھا) ۶) احمد رضا کے ترجمہ کو اہمیت نہیں دی باوجود اسکے کے موصوف خود بریلوی ہیں ۷) عربی متن میں مذکورہ آیت میں ”یایھاالذین امنو” استعمال نہیں ہوا جبکہ ترجمہ کرتے ہوءےسعیدی مشرک نے اے مومنو زاءد استعمال کیا۔ تاکہ جملہ میں اپنا من مانا ربط پیدا کیا جاسکے لہذا یہ بھی تحریف ہے۔ آو بریلویوں میں تمہیں بتاوں تمہارے سعیدی نے اللہ تعالی کے قرآن میں کیا خیانت کی شاید اس ڈر سے کے اگر پوری آیت بحوالہ نقل کردی تو ابوزید کے سوالات تو پھر وہیں کھڑے ہوں گے کیوں کہ حیات النبی کے مسءلہ پر نبی علیہ السلام کا فرمان صحیح سند کے ساتھ آءے تو کہاں سے آءے ابوحنیفہ رح کا موقف صحیح سند سے آءے تو کہاں سے آءے صحابہ کرام رضی اللہ عنہم کا فہم صحیح سند سے آءے تو کہاں سے آءے کیونکہ یہ عقیدہ تو بہت بعد کی پیداوار ہے۔ پوری آیت کیا ہے اور احمد رضا نے اسکا ترجمہ کیا کیا ہے۔ درج ذیل ہے۔ وماارسلنامن رسول الا لیطاع باذن اللہ (ط) ولوانھم اذظلمواانفسھم جاءوک فا ستغفروااللہ واستغفرلھم الرسول لوجدوااللہ توابارحیما۔ ترجمہ ؛ اور ہم نے کوءی رسول نہ بھیجا مگر اس لیے کہ اللہ کے حکم سے اسکی اطاعت کی جاءے اور جب وہ اپنی جانوں پر ظلم کریں تو اے محبوب تمھارے حضور حاضر ہوں اور پھر اللہ سے معافی چاہیں اور رسول ان کی شفاعت فرماءے تو ضرور اللہ کو بہت توبہ قبول کرنیوالا مہربان پاءیں۔ آیت نمبر ۶۴ سورہ النساء ترجمہ از احمد رضا ۔ کنزالایمان الحمدللہ صرف اللہ سبحانہ تعالی کی مدد سے میں نے پوری آیت یہاں نقل کر دی اور حوالہ بھی نقل کردیا ترجمہ بھی احمد رضا کا یہاں نقل کردیا گیا ہے بریلویوں کی آسانی کے لیے اور سعیدی کی قرآن میں خیانت بھی پکڑکرلوگوں کو دکھادی الحمدللہ سوال نمبر ایک ؛ احمد رضا کے ترجمے میں دیکھاجاسکتا ہے کہ لفظ ”اے مومنو” ترجمہ میں نہیں ہے جبکہ سعیدی نے ترجمہ کرتے ہوءے ”اے مومنو” سے ترجمہ شروع کیا لہذا سب سے پہلے ترجمہ کیا گیا لفظ ”اےمومنو” عربی متن میں دکھاءیں کہ کہاں لکھا ہےمذکورہ آیت میں؟ سوال نمبر دو ؛ آپ اس آیت سورہ نساء ۶۴ کا فہم سب سے پہلے اپنے امام ابو حنیفہ رح سے ثابت کریں اور وہ بھی صحیح سند و معہ حوالہ و اسکین کے کہ انہوں نے اس آیت کو اسی طرح سمجھا جس طرح آپ سمجھ رہے ہیں۔ کیونکہ حلقہ مقلدین میں آپکے فہم کی کوءی اہمیت نہیں آپ ایک گمنام مقلد ہیں اور پابند ہیں اپنے امام کی تقلید کے؟ سوال نمبرتین؛ بریلوی مشرکین حیات ظاہری و حیات باطنی کو جس اصطلاح میں بھی مانتے ہیں اسے صحیح سند کے ساتھ ابوحنیفہ رح سے معہ حوالے و اسکین کے ثابت کریں؟ سوال نمبر چار؛قرآن کی آیت ۶۴ سورہ نساء کا ایک ٹکڑا ہے ’ولوانھم اذظلمواانفسھم جاءوک’ جسکااحمد رضا نے ترجمہ کیا کہ ”اور جب وہ اپنی جانوں پر ظلم کریں” جبکہ سعیدی نے ایک نہیں بلکہ دو مرتبہ عربی متن میں تحریف کرتے ہوءے لکھا ” ولوانھم اذظلموا جاءوک” اور ترجمہ بھی یہ کیا کہ ”اگر تمہیں کوءی مسءلہ درپیش آءے” اس ضمن میں سوال یہ ہے کہ احمد رضا نے ظلموا کا ترجمہ لفظ ”ظلم” کے استعمال کے ساتھ کیا جبکہ سعیدی نے ظلموا کا ترجمہ لفظ ”مسءلہ” کے استعمال کے ساتھ کیا کس کا ترجمہ غلط ہے احمد رضا کا یا سعیدی کا؟ سوال نمبر پانچ؛ کسی مستند ڈکشنری سے عربی لفظ ”ظلموا” کا ترجمہ ”مسءلہ” دکھاءیں؟ سوال نمبر چھ؛ نبی علیہ السلام کا فرمان صحیح سند کے ساتھ معہ حوالہ پیش کریں کہ اس آیت کا حکم بعد از وفات النبی علیہ السلام بھی ایسا ہی ہے جیسا کہ آپکی حیات میں تھا؟ نوٹ : یہ سوال اس وقت ہے جب مقلد اپنے امام کا فہم مذکورہ آیت کے بارے میں نہ دکھا سکے۔ سوال نمبر سات؛ اس آیت کو فہم صحابہ کرام رضی اللہ عنہم سے صحیح سند کے ساتھ معہ حوالہ پیش کریں کہ صحابہ کرام رضی اللہ عنہم نے بھی اس آیت کو ایسا ہی سمجھا جیسا کہ آج کے بریلوی سمجھتے ہیں؟ اور بھی مزید سوالات اس پوسٹ نمبر۱۱۱ کے حوالے سے کیے جاسکتے ہیں لیکن فی الحال اتناہی کافی ہے۔ اور ایک بات اور کہ جب آپ اس آیت سورہ نساء ۶۴ سے حیات النبی علیہ السلام کا عقیدہ لیتے ہیں تو اس آیت سورہ نساء ۵۹ سے انکارکیسے کرسکتے ہیں کیا ایک کا اقرار اور دوسرے کا انکارصرف اپنے نفس پرستی کے لیے یہ کون سا اصول بنایا ہے کہ قرآن کی آدھی بات کو ماننا اور آدھی کا انکار کیا یہ بھی بریلویت کے مدارس میں تعلیم دی جارہی ہے ۔لہذا جب آپ سورہ نساء ۶۴ سے حیات النبی کا عقیدہ لیتے ہیں تو اب اس کے حوالے سے بھی میرے سوالات کے جوابات دیں اور سورہ نساء ۵۹ کے حوالے سے بھی میرےکیے گءے سوالات کے جوابات دیں۔ اقتباس Link to comment Share on 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abuzaid مراسلہ: 7 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 7 نومبر 2009 احمد رضا کے ترجمے کا اسکین نیچے دیاجارہاہے۔ آیت نمبر ۶۴ سورہ النساء ترجمہ از احمد رضا ۔ کنزالایمان اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RadiatingAli مراسلہ: 9 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 9 نومبر 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) * Surah Al Maidah {5} Verse 35: "O ye who believe! Do your duty to Allah, seek the means of approach unto Him, and strive with might and main in his cause: that ye may prosper." Allah states in the Quran, seek Waseelah, i.e. means, ways, to approach to Allah, gain nearness to Allah, there are many Waseelah in Shariah indicated in Quran and Sunnah, and one form of Waseelah which Allah instructs the beleivers to seek is of Prophets {SAW}: * Surah Nisa {4} Verse 64: "We sent not an apostle, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the will of Allah. If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee and asked Allah's FORGIVENESS, and the Messenger had asked FORGIVENESS for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-returning, Most Merciful." Allah subhana wa tallah states that we have sent the Prophet, the Messenger to be obeyed by his fallowers as well as the Mushrikeen in accordance to what Allah wills, and when the sinners, munafiqeen were unjust to them selves, i.e. wronged, sinned, and had earned Allahs wrath, they should have come to Prophet {SAW} and asked Allahs forgiveness, note Allah says come in the presence of the Prophet and then seek Allahs forgiveness Allah doesnt say stay at home, but says come in the presence of Prophet and then seek forgiveness from Allah, and when the messenger had asked forigveness for the sinners then they would have found Allah forgiving mercifull, indicating that Allah preffers the Waseelah, Allah wishes that sinners those who have wronged themselves should make dua in the presence of Prophet this it self is form of Waseelah because nearness to Prophet, those who desire to be in presence of Prophet {SAW} Allah is pleased with them ... and dua in his presence is more worthy of acceptance, and secondly ask the Prophet to seek forgiveness on the behalf of sinner. This proves the Waseelah of Prophet Muhammed {SAW} while he was on this world, and is proof that his Waseelah can be made, and the sinners in this world can belong to any era as long as they are siners they can make his Waseelah. In case someone thinks that RasoolAllah sallalahu alayhi was'salam is not with them so how can they ask him to seek forgiveness for them on their behalf, they are reminded that Allah states in Quran: * Surah Al Ahzaab {33} Verse 6: "The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers ..." * Surah Al Hujjarat {49} Verse 7: "]"And know that among you is Allah's Messenger;[/b] were he, in many matters, to follow your (wishes), ye would certainly fall into misfortune. But Allah has endeared the Faith to you, and has made it beautiful in your hearts, and He has made hateful to you Unbelief, wickedness, and rebellion; such indeed are those who walk in righteousness." * Surah At Tawbah {9} Verse 94: ”They will present their excuses to you when ye return to them. Say thou: "Present no excuses: we shall not believe you: Allah hath already informed us of the true state of matters concerning you: It is your actions that Allah and His Messenger will observe: in the end will ye be brought back to Him Who knoweth what is hidden and what is open: then will He show you the truth of all that ye did." Allah says the Prophet Muhammed Sallalahu alayhi was'salam is closer to the beleivers then their own selves, and in another verse Allah says, that Allah is closer to the beleiver then his jegular vain, Allah is close to the beleivers so is RasoolAllah. Allah states that Messenger of Allah is among us, and in another verse Allah says that Allah and RasoolAllah will observe the deeds of Munafiqeen, and Quran is for every era hence RAsoolAllah observes the deeds of Munafiqeen of every era till the day of judgement. * Sahih Al Bukhari, Book 36, Number 472: "Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "Three men from among those who were before you, set out together till they reached a cave at night and entered it. A big rock rolled down the mountain and closed the mouth of the cave. They said (to each other), Nothing could save you from this rock but to invoke Allah by giving referenda to the righteous deed which you have done (for Allah's sake only).' So, one of them said, 'O Allah! I had old parents and I never provided my family (wife, children etc.) with milk before them. One day, by chance I was delayed, and I came late (at night) while they had slept. I milked the sheep for them and took the milk to them, but I found them sleeping. I disliked to provide my family with the milk before them. I waited for them and the bowl of milk was in my hand and I kept on waiting for them to get up till the day dawned. Then they got up and drank the milk. O Allah! If I did that for Your Sake only, please relieve us from our critical situation caused by this rock.' So, the rock shifted a little but they could not get out." The Prophet added, "The second man said, 'O Allah! I had a cousin who was the dearest of all people to me and I wanted to have sexual relations with her but she refused. Later she had a hard time in a famine year and she came to me and I gave her one-hundred-and-twenty Dinars on the condition that she would not resist my desire, and she agreed. When I was about to fulfill my desire, she said: It is illegal for you to outrage my chastity except by legitimate marriage. So, I thought it a sin to have sexual intercourse with her and left her though she was the dearest of all the people to me, and also I left the gold I had given her. O Allah! If I did that for Your Sake only, please relieve us from the present calamity.' So, the rock shifted a little more but still they could not get out from there." The Prophet added, "Then the third man said, 'O Allah! I employed few laborers and I paid them their wages with the exception of one man who did not take his wages and went away. I invested his wages and I got much property thereby. (Then after some time) he came and said to me: O Allah's slave! Pay me my wages. I said to him: All the camels, cows, sheep and slaves you see, are yours. He said: O Allah's slave! Don't mock at me. I said: I am not mocking at you. So, he took all the herd and drove them away and left nothing. O Allah! If I did that for Your Sake only, please relieve us from the present suffering.' So, that rock shifted completely and they got out walking." These three pious beleivers made Waseelah of the pious deeds, they invoked Allah beseached him implored him and asked Him to releive them from their suffering through the Waseelah of their pious deeds, they didnt say O Allah you are, Ghafoor Ur Rahim, O Allah you are Rabbul Alameen, the knower of Allah, etc ... they didnt invoke with the beautiful asma was sifaat, but they invoked Allah with their pious deeds, and Allah loved their pious deeds, and Allah removed their suffering. If a Sunni says o Allah I invoke you, O Allah I make Waseelah of Messneger Muhammed sallalahu alayhi was'salam, and O Allah if you love him and my this beseaching you, then o Allah answer my prayer. It cant be Shirk, because in both cases, the Waseelah are Ghair-ullah, in the Hadith the Waseelah are pious deeds, and in the Sunnis dua the Waseelah is Messenger of Allah sallalahu alayhi was'salam, and if it was Shirk in one case it would have to be Shirk in both cases. And note Allah in the previously quoted verse states: "wabtaghu alayhis wasilata" seek Wasilah to Allah. * Surah Al Baqarah {2} Verse 89: "And when there comes to them a Book from Allah, confirming what is with them,- although from of old they had prayed for VICTORY against those without Faith,- when there comes to them that which they (should) have recognized, they refuse to believe in it, but the curse of Allah is on those without Faith." Jews use to make dua to Allah prior to the birth of Prophet {SAW} to Allah by using Prophet {SAW} as Waseelah, they asked O Allah grant us victory with the Waseelah {through} the Prophet Muhammed {SAW}: Tafsir Ibn Kathir: "(although aforetime they had invoked Allah (for coming of Muhammad ) in order to gain victory over those who disbelieved) meaning, before this Messenger came to them, they used to ask Allah to aid them by his arrival, against their polytheistic enemies in war. They used to say to the polytheists, "A Prophet shall be sent just before the end of this world and we, along with him, shall exterminate you, just as the nations of `Ad and Iram were exterminated.'' Also, Muhammad bin Ishaq narrated that Ibn `Abbas said, "The Jews used to invoke Allah (for the coming of Muhammad ) in order to gain victory over the Aws and Khazraj, before the Prophet was sent. When Allah sent him to the Arabs, they rejected him and denied what they used to say about him. Hence, Mu`adh bin Jabal and Bishr bin Al-Bara' bin Ma`rur, from Bani Salamah, said to them, `O Jews! Fear Allah and embrace Islam. You used to invoke Allah for the coming of Muhammad when we were still disbelievers and you used to tell us that he would come and describe him to us,' Salam bin Mushkim from Bani An-Nadir replied, `He did not bring anything that we recognize. He is not the Prophet we told you about.' Allah then revealed this Ayah about their statement," * Tafsir Al Jalalayn: "When there came to them a Book from God, confirming what was with them, in the Torah, that is the Qur’ān — and they formerly, before it came, prayed for victory, for assistance, over the disbelievers, saying: ‘God, give us assistance against them through the Prophet that shall be sent at the end of time’; but when there came to them what they recognised, as the truth, that is, the mission of the Prophet, they disbelieved in it, out of envy and for fear of losing leadership (the response to the first lammā particle is indicated by the response to the second one); and the curse of God is on the disbelievers." * Tafsir Ibn Abbas: "(And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession) which accords with that which is in their possession (though before that) before Muhammad (pbuh) (they were asking for a signal triumph) through Muhammad and the Qur'an (over those who disbelieved) of their enemies: the tribes of Asad, Ghatafan, Muzaynah, and Juhaynah (and when there cometh unto them that which they knew) of his traits and description in their Book (they disbelieved therein) they denied it was him. (The curse of Allah) His wrath and torment (is on disbelievers) the Jews." Yahoodi RasoolAllah kee Milaad say pehlay hee Allah say dua keeya kertay thay kay Ya Allah ham ko Nabi Muhammed {SAW} kay waseeleh say Mushrikeen e Arab per fatah ata farma, Allah farmata heh kay unoon nay pehchaan ker be bughz meh inqaar ker deeya. Note keren Allah tallah nay un kee joh Waseeleh say dua mangi gaee thee, un kay is amal ko Shirk, Kuffr, ilhad, kuch nahin farmatay, agar Shirk hota Allah kee nazr meh toh Allah farmata kay Shirk keeya kertay thay. Note keren kay Hadith ka asool heh, agar RasoolAllah kay samnay ya sun'nay meh kohi amal esa aya ho joh ghair sharaee thah toh RasolAllah us ko zeroor roktay ya islah farmatay, aur agar un kay samnay kuch amal huwa ho aur unoon nay sakoot farmaya ho toh phir yeh matlab hoga kay yeh amal ilfaaz weghera darust thay ghair islami nahin thay. Allah tallah kee zaat ko ziyada haq punchta heh kay woh achay buray kee tameez logoon ko batahen apni kitab meh Allah kee khamoshi daleel heh kay RasoolAllah ka Waseelah bana'na jaiz aur hukam e illahi heh. Han dua Allah tallah say mangni chayeh, magar Allah kay muqaribeen, ibadat, Isma o Sifaat e bari talah, aur Saliheen, Ambiyah ka aur amaal e saliha Waseelah jaiz heh, yehni yoon dua farmana: "Ya Allah apnay piyaray Nabi kay waseeleh say meray gunnahoon ko maaf farma." Agar is tera dua mangi jahay to jaiz heh. Summary, RasoolAllah is closer to the beleivers then their own selves, Prophet is among i.e. Hadhir in Madinah but Naadhir on his Ummah, and he is watching with Allah the deeds and actions of munafiqeen, hence to say: "O Messenger of Allah seek pardon for me from Allah, has you are sent as Rehmatal Lil Alameen, O beloved Prophet sallalahu alayhi was'salam beseech Allah on behalf. O Allah forigve my sins for the sake of Messenger of Allah, for he is your beloved Prophet, for no deed, no person is more beloved to you then your Prophet Muhammed, O Allah I implore you to forgive my sins because I love the Messneger whom you love, O Allah fogive my sins because I am Ummati of ur beloved Prophet." is perfectly okay. Allah instructs what the zalimeen should do, that they should go to Messenger of Allah to make him Waseelah to Allah by asking him to make dua for them, and Yahood made dua to Allah with the Waseelah of Messenger of Allah sallalahu alayhi was'salam, and Sahih Bukhari hadith states that certain pious individuals made dua by making their pious deeds as Waseelah, and Sunnis pious deed is that he doesnt make his own deeds as Waseelah but he makes Waseelah of Messneger of Allah. Those who call Waseelah Shirk, have no understanding of deen of Islam they are ingorant and are heretics at best, and apostates, murtids at worst. And Wahabiyah my challenge to you is nominate one chamcha, and bring him here to debate this subject out once for all. Wama Alayna Ilal Balaghul Mubeen. Muhammed Ali Razavi Edited 9 نومبر 2009 by RadiatingAli اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RadiatingAli مراسلہ: 10 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 10 نومبر 2009 * Surah Al Maidah {5} Verse 35: "O ye who believe! Do your duty to Allah, seek the means of approach unto Him, and strive with might and main in his cause: that ye may prosper." Allah states in the Quran, seek Waseelah, i.e. means, ways, to approach to Allah, gain nearness to Allah, there are many Waseelah in Shariah indicated in Quran and Sunnah, and one form of Waseelah which Allah instructs the beleivers to seek is of Prophets {SAW}: * Surah Nisa {4} Verse 64: "We sent not an apostle, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the will of Allah. If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee and asked Allah's FORGIVENESS, and the Messenger had asked FORGIVENESS for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-returning, Most Merciful." Allah subhana wa tallah states that we have sent the Prophet, the Messenger to be obeyed by his fallowers as well as the Mushrikeen in accordance to what Allah wills, and when the sinners, munafiqeen were unjust to them selves, i.e. wronged, sinned, and had earned Allahs wrath, they should have come to Prophet {SAW} and asked Allahs forgiveness, note Allah says come in the presence of the Prophet and then seek Allahs forgiveness Allah doesnt say stay at home, but says come in the presence of Prophet and then seek forgiveness from Allah, and when the messenger had asked forigveness for the sinners then they would have found Allah forgiving mercifull, indicating that Allah preffers the Waseelah, Allah wishes that sinners those who have wronged themselves should make dua in the presence of Prophet this it self is form of Waseelah because nearness to Prophet, those who desire to be in presence of Prophet {SAW} Allah is pleased with them ... and dua in his presence is more worthy of acceptance, and secondly ask the Prophet to seek forgiveness on the behalf of sinner. This proves the Waseelah of Prophet Muhammed {SAW} while he was on this world, and is proof that his Waseelah can be made, and the sinners in this world can belong to any era as long as they are siners they can make his Waseelah. In case someone thinks that RasoolAllah sallalahu alayhi was'salam is not with them so how can they ask him to seek forgiveness for them on their behalf, they are reminded that Allah states in Quran: * Surah Al Ahzaab {33} Verse 6: "The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers ..." * Surah Al Hujjarat {49} Verse 7: "And know that among you is Allah's Messenger; were he, in many matters, to follow your (wishes), ye would certainly fall into misfortune. But Allah has endeared the Faith to you, and has made it beautiful in your hearts, and He has made hateful to you Unbelief, wickedness, and rebellion; such indeed are those who walk in righteousness." * Surah At Tawbah {9} Verse 94: ”They will present their excuses to you when ye return to them. Say thou: "Present no excuses: we shall not believe you: Allah hath already informed us of the true state of matters concerning you: It is your actions that Allah and His Messenger will observe: in the end will ye be brought back to Him Who knoweth what is hidden and what is open: then will He show you the truth of all that ye did." Allah says the Prophet Muhammed Sallalahu alayhi was'salam is closer to the beleivers then their own selves, and in another verse Allah says, that Allah is closer to the beleiver then his jegular vain, Allah is close to the beleivers so is RasoolAllah. Allah states that Messenger of Allah is among us, and in another verse Allah says that Allah and RasoolAllah will observe the deeds of Munafiqeen, and Quran is for every era hence RAsoolAllah observes the deeds of Munafiqeen of every era till the day of judgement. * Sahih Al Bukhari, Book 36, Number 472: "Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "Three men from among those who were before you, set out together till they reached a cave at night and entered it. A big rock rolled down the mountain and closed the mouth of the cave. They said (to each other), Nothing could save you from this rock but to invoke Allah by giving referenda to the righteous deed which you have done (for Allah's sake only).' So, one of them said, 'O Allah! I had old parents and I never provided my family (wife, children etc.) with milk before them. One day, by chance I was delayed, and I came late (at night) while they had slept. I milked the sheep for them and took the milk to them, but I found them sleeping. I disliked to provide my family with the milk before them. I waited for them and the bowl of milk was in my hand and I kept on waiting for them to get up till the day dawned. Then they got up and drank the milk. O Allah! If I did that for Your Sake only, please relieve us from our critical situation caused by this rock.' So, the rock shifted a little but they could not get out." The Prophet added, "The second man said, 'O Allah! I had a cousin who was the dearest of all people to me and I wanted to have sexual relations with her but she refused. Later she had a hard time in a famine year and she came to me and I gave her one-hundred-and-twenty Dinars on the condition that she would not resist my desire, and she agreed. When I was about to fulfill my desire, she said: It is illegal for you to outrage my chastity except by legitimate marriage. So, I thought it a sin to have sexual intercourse with her and left her though she was the dearest of all the people to me, and also I left the gold I had given her. O Allah! If I did that for Your Sake only, please relieve us from the present calamity.' So, the rock shifted a little more but still they could not get out from there." The Prophet added, "Then the third man said, 'O Allah! I employed few laborers and I paid them their wages with the exception of one man who did not take his wages and went away. I invested his wages and I got much property thereby. (Then after some time) he came and said to me: O Allah's slave! Pay me my wages. I said to him: All the camels, cows, sheep and slaves you see, are yours. He said: O Allah's slave! Don't mock at me. I said: I am not mocking at you. So, he took all the herd and drove them away and left nothing. O Allah! If I did that for Your Sake only, please relieve us from the present suffering.' So, that rock shifted completely and they got out walking." These three pious beleivers made Waseelah of the pious deeds, they invoked Allah beseached him implored him and asked Him to releive them from their suffering through the Waseelah of their pious deeds, they didnt say O Allah you are, Ghafoor Ur Rahim, O Allah you are Rabbul Alameen, the knower of Allah, etc ... they didnt invoke with the beautiful asma was sifaat, but they invoked Allah with their pious deeds, and Allah loved their pious deeds, and Allah removed their suffering. If a Sunni says o Allah I invoke you, O Allah I make Waseelah of Messneger Muhammed sallalahu alayhi was'salam, and O Allah if you love him and my this beseaching you, then o Allah answer my prayer. It cant be Shirk, because in both cases, the Waseelah are Ghair-ullah, in the Hadith the Waseelah are pious deeds, and in the Sunnis dua the Waseelah is Messenger of Allah sallalahu alayhi was'salam, and if it was Shirk in one case it would have to be Shirk in both cases. And note Allah in the previously quoted verse states: "wabtaghu alayhis wasilata" seek Wasilah to Allah. * Surah Al Baqarah {2} Verse 89: "And when there comes to them a Book from Allah, confirming what is with them,- although from of old they had prayed for VICTORY against those without Faith,- when there comes to them that which they (should) have recognized, they refuse to believe in it, but the curse of Allah is on those without Faith." Jews use to make dua to Allah prior to the birth of Prophet {SAW} to Allah by using Prophet {SAW} as Waseelah, they asked O Allah grant us victory with the Waseelah {through} the Prophet Muhammed {SAW}: Tafsir Ibn Kathir: "(although aforetime they had invoked Allah (for coming of Muhammad ) in order to gain victory over those who disbelieved) meaning, before this Messenger came to them, they used to ask Allah to aid them by his arrival, against their polytheistic enemies in war. They used to say to the polytheists, "A Prophet shall be sent just before the end of this world and we, along with him, shall exterminate you, just as the nations of `Ad and Iram were exterminated.'' Also, Muhammad bin Ishaq narrated that Ibn `Abbas said, "The Jews used to invoke Allah (for the coming of Muhammad ) in order to gain victory over the Aws and Khazraj, before the Prophet was sent. When Allah sent him to the Arabs, they rejected him and denied what they used to say about him. Hence, Mu`adh bin Jabal and Bishr bin Al-Bara' bin Ma`rur, from Bani Salamah, said to them, `O Jews! Fear Allah and embrace Islam. You used to invoke Allah for the coming of Muhammad when we were still disbelievers and you used to tell us that he would come and describe him to us,' Salam bin Mushkim from Bani An-Nadir replied, `He did not bring anything that we recognize. He is not the Prophet we told you about.' Allah then revealed this Ayah about their statement," * Tafsir Al Jalalayn: "When there came to them a Book from God, confirming what was with them, in the Torah, that is the Qur’ān — and they formerly, before it came, prayed for victory, for assistance, over the disbelievers, saying: ‘God, give us assistance against them through the Prophet that shall be sent at the end of time’; but when there came to them what they recognised, as the truth, that is, the mission of the Prophet, they disbelieved in it, out of envy and for fear of losing leadership (the response to the first lammā particle is indicated by the response to the second one); and the curse of God is on the disbelievers." * Tafsir Ibn Abbas: "(And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession) which accords with that which is in their possession (though before that) before Muhammad (pbuh) (they were asking for a signal triumph) through Muhammad and the Qur'an (over those who disbelieved) of their enemies: the tribes of Asad, Ghatafan, Muzaynah, and Juhaynah (and when there cometh unto them that which they knew) of his traits and description in their Book (they disbelieved therein) they denied it was him. (The curse of Allah) His wrath and torment (is on disbelievers) the Jews." Yahoodi RasoolAllah kee Milaad say pehlay hee Allah say dua keeya kertay thay kay Ya Allah ham ko Nabi Muhammed {SAW} kay waseeleh say Mushrikeen e Arab per fatah ata farma, Allah farmata heh kay unoon nay pehchaan ker be bughz meh inqaar ker deeya. Note keren Allah tallah nay un kee joh Waseeleh say dua mangi gaee thee, un kay is amal ko Shirk, Kuffr, ilhad, kuch nahin farmatay, agar Shirk hota Allah kee nazr meh toh Allah farmata kay Shirk keeya kertay thay. Note keren kay Hadith ka asool heh, agar RasoolAllah kay samnay ya sun'nay meh kohi amal esa aya ho joh ghair sharaee thah toh RasolAllah us ko zeroor roktay ya islah farmatay, aur agar un kay samnay kuch amal huwa ho aur unoon nay sakoot farmaya ho toh phir yeh matlab hoga kay yeh amal ilfaaz weghera darust thay ghair islami nahin thay. Allah tallah kee zaat ko ziyada haq punchta heh kay woh achay buray kee tameez logoon ko batahen apni kitab meh Allah kee khamoshi daleel heh kay RasoolAllah ka Waseelah bana'na jaiz aur hukam e illahi heh. Han dua Allah tallah say mangni chayeh, magar Allah kay muqaribeen, ibadat, Isma o Sifaat e bari talah, aur Saliheen, Ambiyah ka aur amaal e saliha Waseelah jaiz heh, yehni yoon dua farmana: "Ya Allah apnay piyaray Nabi kay waseeleh say meray gunnahoon ko maaf farma." Agar is tera dua mangi jahay to jaiz heh. Summary, RasoolAllah is closer to the beleivers then their own selves, Prophet is among i.e. Hadhir in Madinah but Naadhir on his Ummah, and he is watching with Allah the deeds and actions of munafiqeen, hence to say: "O Messenger of Allah seek pardon for me from Allah, has you are sent as Rehmatal Lil Alameen, O beloved Prophet sallalahu alayhi was'salam beseech Allah on behalf. O Allah forigve my sins for the sake of Messenger of Allah, for he is your beloved Prophet, for no deed, no person is more beloved to you then your Prophet Muhammed, O Allah I implore you to forgive my sins because I love the Messneger whom you love, O Allah fogive my sins because I am Ummati of ur beloved Prophet." is perfectly okay. Allah instructs what the zalimeen should do, that they should go to Messenger of Allah to make him Waseelah to Allah by asking him to make dua for them, and Yahood made dua to Allah with the Waseelah of Messenger of Allah sallalahu alayhi was'salam, and Sahih Bukhari hadith states that certain pious individuals made dua by making their pious deeds as Waseelah, and Sunnis pious deed is that he doesnt make his own deeds as Waseelah but he makes Waseelah of Messneger of Allah. Those who call Waseelah Shirk, have no understanding of deen of Islam they are ingorant and are heretics at best, and apostates, murtids at worst. And Wahabiyah my challenge to you is nominate one chamcha, and bring him here to debate this subject out once for all. Wama Alayna Ilal Balaghul Mubeen. Muhammed Ali Razavi اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RadiatingAli مراسلہ: 10 نومبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 10 نومبر 2009 * Surah Al Maidah {5} Verse 35: "O ye who believe! Do your duty to Allah, seek the means of approach unto Him, and strive with might and main in his cause: that ye may prosper." Allah states in the Quran, seek Waseelah, i.e. means, ways, to approach to Allah, gain nearness to Allah, there are many Waseelah in Shariah indicated in Quran and Sunnah, and one form of Waseelah which Allah instructs the beleivers to seek is of Prophets {SAW}: * Surah Nisa {4} Verse 64: "We sent not an apostle, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the will of Allah. If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee and asked Allah's FORGIVENESS, and the Messenger had asked FORGIVENESS for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-returning, Most Merciful." Allah subhana wa tallah states that we have sent the Prophet, the Messenger to be obeyed by his fallowers as well as the Mushrikeen in accordance to what Allah wills, and when the sinners, munafiqeen were unjust to them selves, i.e. wronged, sinned, and had earned Allahs wrath, they should have come to Prophet {SAW} and asked Allahs forgiveness, note Allah says come in the presence of the Prophet and then seek Allahs forgiveness Allah doesnt say stay at home, but says come in the presence of Prophet and then seek forgiveness from Allah, and when the messenger had asked forigveness for the sinners then they would have found Allah forgiving mercifull, indicating that Allah preffers the Waseelah, Allah wishes that sinners those who have wronged themselves should make dua in the presence of Prophet this it self is form of Waseelah because nearness to Prophet, those who desire to be in presence of Prophet {SAW} Allah is pleased with them ... and dua in his presence is more worthy of acceptance, and secondly ask the Prophet to seek forgiveness on the behalf of sinner. This proves the Waseelah of Prophet Muhammed {SAW} while he was on this world, and is proof that his Waseelah can be made, and the sinners in this world can belong to any era as long as they are siners they can make his Waseelah. In case someone thinks that RasoolAllah sallalahu alayhi was'salam is not with them so how can they ask him to seek forgiveness for them on their behalf, they are reminded that Allah states in Quran: * Surah Al Ahzaab {33} Verse 6: "The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers ..." * Surah Al Hujjarat {49} Verse 7: "And know that among you is Allah's Messenger; were he, in many matters, to follow your (wishes), ye would certainly fall into misfortune. But Allah has endeared the Faith to you, and has made it beautiful in your hearts, and He has made hateful to you Unbelief, wickedness, and rebellion; such indeed are those who walk in righteousness." * Surah At Tawbah {9} Verse 94: ”They will present their excuses to you when ye return to them. Say thou: "Present no excuses: we shall not believe you: Allah hath already informed us of the true state of matters concerning you: It is your actions that Allah and His Messenger will observe: in the end will ye be brought back to Him Who knoweth what is hidden and what is open: then will He show you the truth of all that ye did." Allah says the Prophet Muhammed Sallalahu alayhi was'salam is closer to the beleivers then their own selves, and in another verse Allah says, that Allah is closer to the beleiver then his jegular vain, Allah is close to the beleivers so is RasoolAllah. Allah states that Messenger of Allah is among us, and in another verse Allah says that Allah and RasoolAllah will observe the deeds of Munafiqeen, and Quran is for every era hence RAsoolAllah observes the deeds of Munafiqeen of every era till the day of judgement. * Sahih Al Bukhari, Book 36, Number 472: "Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "Three men from among those who were before you, set out together till they reached a cave at night and entered it. A big rock rolled down the mountain and closed the mouth of the cave. They said (to each other), Nothing could save you from this rock but to invoke Allah by giving referenda to the righteous deed which you have done (for Allah's sake only).' So, one of them said, 'O Allah! I had old parents and I never provided my family (wife, children etc.) with milk before them. One day, by chance I was delayed, and I came late (at night) while they had slept. I milked the sheep for them and took the milk to them, but I found them sleeping. I disliked to provide my family with the milk before them. I waited for them and the bowl of milk was in my hand and I kept on waiting for them to get up till the day dawned. Then they got up and drank the milk. O Allah! If I did that for Your Sake only, please relieve us from our critical situation caused by this rock.' So, the rock shifted a little but they could not get out." The Prophet added, "The second man said, 'O Allah! I had a cousin who was the dearest of all people to me and I wanted to have sexual relations with her but she refused. Later she had a hard time in a famine year and she came to me and I gave her one-hundred-and-twenty Dinars on the condition that she would not resist my desire, and she agreed. When I was about to fulfill my desire, she said: It is illegal for you to outrage my chastity except by legitimate marriage. So, I thought it a sin to have sexual intercourse with her and left her though she was the dearest of all the people to me, and also I left the gold I had given her. O Allah! If I did that for Your Sake only, please relieve us from the present calamity.' So, the rock shifted a little more but still they could not get out from there." The Prophet added, "Then the third man said, 'O Allah! I employed few laborers and I paid them their wages with the exception of one man who did not take his wages and went away. I invested his wages and I got much property thereby. (Then after some time) he came and said to me: O Allah's slave! Pay me my wages. I said to him: All the camels, cows, sheep and slaves you see, are yours. He said: O Allah's slave! Don't mock at me. I said: I am not mocking at you. So, he took all the herd and drove them away and left nothing. O Allah! If I did that for Your Sake only, please relieve us from the present suffering.' So, that rock shifted completely and they got out walking." These three pious beleivers made Waseelah of the pious deeds, they invoked Allah beseached him implored him and asked Him to releive them from their suffering through the Waseelah of their pious deeds, they didnt say O Allah you are, Ghafoor Ur Rahim, O Allah you are Rabbul Alameen, the knower of Allah, etc ... they didnt invoke with the beautiful asma was sifaat, but they invoked Allah with their pious deeds, and Allah loved their pious deeds, and Allah removed their suffering. If a Sunni says o Allah I invoke you, O Allah I make Waseelah of Messneger Muhammed sallalahu alayhi was'salam, and O Allah if you love him and my this beseaching you, then o Allah answer my prayer. It cant be Shirk, because in both cases, the Waseelah are Ghair-ullah, in the Hadith the Waseelah are pious deeds, and in the Sunnis dua the Waseelah is Messenger of Allah sallalahu alayhi was'salam, and if it was Shirk in one case it would have to be Shirk in both cases. And note Allah in the previously quoted verse states: "wabtaghu alayhis wasilata" seek Wasilah to Allah. * Surah Al Baqarah {2} Verse 89: "And when there comes to them a Book from Allah, confirming what is with them,- although from of old they had prayed for VICTORY against those without Faith,- when there comes to them that which they (should) have recognized, they refuse to believe in it, but the curse of Allah is on those without Faith." Jews use to make dua to Allah prior to the birth of Prophet {SAW} to Allah by using Prophet {SAW} as Waseelah, they asked O Allah grant us victory with the Waseelah {through} the Prophet Muhammed {SAW}: Tafsir Ibn Kathir: "(although aforetime they had invoked Allah (for coming of Muhammad ) in order to gain victory over those who disbelieved) meaning, before this Messenger came to them, they used to ask Allah to aid them by his arrival, against their polytheistic enemies in war. They used to say to the polytheists, "A Prophet shall be sent just before the end of this world and we, along with him, shall exterminate you, just as the nations of `Ad and Iram were exterminated.'' Also, Muhammad bin Ishaq narrated that Ibn `Abbas said, "The Jews used to invoke Allah (for the coming of Muhammad ) in order to gain victory over the Aws and Khazraj, before the Prophet was sent. When Allah sent him to the Arabs, they rejected him and denied what they used to say about him. Hence, Mu`adh bin Jabal and Bishr bin Al-Bara' bin Ma`rur, from Bani Salamah, said to them, `O Jews! Fear Allah and embrace Islam. You used to invoke Allah for the coming of Muhammad when we were still disbelievers and you used to tell us that he would come and describe him to us,' Salam bin Mushkim from Bani An-Nadir replied, `He did not bring anything that we recognize. He is not the Prophet we told you about.' Allah then revealed this Ayah about their statement," * Tafsir Al Jalalayn: "When there came to them a Book from God, confirming what was with them, in the Torah, that is the Qur’ān — and they formerly, before it came, prayed for victory, for assistance, over the disbelievers, saying: ‘God, give us assistance against them through the Prophet that shall be sent at the end of time’; but when there came to them what they recognised, as the truth, that is, the mission of the Prophet, they disbelieved in it, out of envy and for fear of losing leadership (the response to the first lammā particle is indicated by the response to the second one); and the curse of God is on the disbelievers." * Tafsir Ibn Abbas: "(And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession) which accords with that which is in their possession (though before that) before Muhammad (pbuh) (they were asking for a signal triumph) through Muhammad and the Qur'an (over those who disbelieved) of their enemies: the tribes of Asad, Ghatafan, Muzaynah, and Juhaynah (and when there cometh unto them that which they knew) of his traits and description in their Book (they disbelieved therein) they denied it was him. (The curse of Allah) His wrath and torment (is on disbelievers) the Jews." Yahoodi RasoolAllah kee Milaad say pehlay hee Allah say dua keeya kertay thay kay Ya Allah ham ko Nabi Muhammed {SAW} kay waseeleh say Mushrikeen e Arab per fatah ata farma, Allah farmata heh kay unoon nay pehchaan ker be bughz meh inqaar ker deeya. Note keren Allah tallah nay un kee joh Waseeleh say dua mangi gaee thee, un kay is amal ko Shirk, Kuffr, ilhad, kuch nahin farmatay, agar Shirk hota Allah kee nazr meh toh Allah farmata kay Shirk keeya kertay thay. Note keren kay Hadith ka asool heh, agar RasoolAllah kay samnay ya sun'nay meh kohi amal esa aya ho joh ghair sharaee thah toh RasolAllah us ko zeroor roktay ya islah farmatay, aur agar un kay samnay kuch amal huwa ho aur unoon nay sakoot farmaya ho toh phir yeh matlab hoga kay yeh amal ilfaaz weghera darust thay ghair islami nahin thay. Allah tallah kee zaat ko ziyada haq punchta heh kay woh achay buray kee tameez logoon ko batahen apni kitab meh Allah kee khamoshi daleel heh kay RasoolAllah ka Waseelah bana'na jaiz aur hukam e illahi heh. Han dua Allah tallah say mangni chayeh, magar Allah kay muqaribeen, ibadat, Isma o Sifaat e bari talah, aur Saliheen, Ambiyah ka aur amaal e saliha Waseelah jaiz heh, yehni yoon dua farmana: "Ya Allah apnay piyaray Nabi kay waseeleh say meray gunnahoon ko maaf farma." Agar is tera dua mangi jahay to jaiz heh. Summary, RasoolAllah is closer to the beleivers then their own selves, Prophet is among i.e. Hadhir in Madinah but Naadhir on his Ummah, and he is watching with Allah the deeds and actions of munafiqeen, hence to say: "O Messenger of Allah seek pardon for me from Allah, has you are sent as Rehmatal Lil Alameen, O beloved Prophet sallalahu alayhi was'salam beseech Allah on behalf. O Allah forigve my sins for the sake of Messenger of Allah, for he is your beloved Prophet, for no deed, no person is more beloved to you then your Prophet Muhammed, O Allah I implore you to forgive my sins because I love the Messneger whom you love, O Allah fogive my sins because I am Ummati of ur beloved Prophet." is perfectly okay. Allah instructs what the zalimeen should do, that they should go to Messenger of Allah to make him Waseelah to Allah by asking him to make dua for them, and Yahood made dua to Allah with the Waseelah of Messenger of Allah sallalahu alayhi was'salam, and Sahih Bukhari hadith states that certain pious individuals made dua by making their pious deeds as Waseelah, and Sunnis pious deed is that he doesnt make his own deeds as Waseelah but he makes Waseelah of Messneger of Allah. Those who call Waseelah Shirk, have no understanding of deen of Islam they are ingorant and are heretics at best, and apostates, murtids at worst. And Wahabiyah my challenge to you is nominate one chamcha, and bring him here to debate this subject out once for all. Wama Alayna Ilal Balaghul Mubeen. Muhammed Ali Razavi اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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