Asim166 مراسلہ: 1 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 1 جون 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) Salaam Sunni Bhaio, Kiya har city ka alag Ghous hoty hay. Kiya koye janta hay kay Karachi kay Ghous ,Qutub aur Abdaal koun hain. Unsay mulaqat kaisay ho sakti hay.Kiya unsay Bayt howa ja sakta hay. Kiya Ilm e Ludani har Ghous kay pass hota hay Kiya Allah ka har Wali Allah kay Noor sai daikhata hay Mai yai baat isliay pooch rahan hon kay Ghous,Qutub aur Abdaal Sunnion mai hi ho saktay hain ,isliay sirf Sunni hi yai jantay hain. Shukriya Edited 1 جون 2009 by Asim166 اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MOUWAHID مراسلہ: 2 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 2 جون 2009 Salaam Sunni Bhaio, Kiya har city ka alag Ghous hoty hay. Kiya koye janta hay kay Karachi kay Ghous ,Qutub aur Abdaal koun hain. Unsay mulaqat kaisay ho sakti hay.Kiya unsay Bayt howa ja sakta hay. Kiya Ilm e Ludani har Ghous kay pass hota hay Kiya Allah ka har Wali Allah kay Noor sai daikhata hay Mai yai baat isliay pooch rahan hon kay Ghous,Qutub aur Abdaal Sunnion mai hi ho saktay hain ,isliay sirf Sunni hi yai jantay hain. Shukriya In qabar parastoon say koun sawal pooch lia mairay bhai.....? اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanjr e AlaHazrat مراسلہ: 2 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 2 جون 2009 In qabar parastoon say koun sawal pooch lia mairay bhai.....? Tum Logoon nain to Qabar main nahin Jana Shayad Direct Jahanum Main janay ka Irada Hai Afsoos Tum loog Nan to Khud hi koi Naik kaam Kartay ho, Nan hi Tumharay Marnay k Baad Koi Issal e Sawaab kaRTA Hai....Abhi b Maoqa Hai Toba Kar lo اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asim166 مراسلہ: 2 جون 2009 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 2 جون 2009 Mai nay tu bhut try ki hay.Isliay ab aap bahion sai madad ka kaha hay. Mujhay samjh nahi aya kay aap nay is topic par itna tanziya jawab kion diya. Kiya mayray sawalat namunasib hain??? اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 2 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 2 جون 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) Janab Asim Sb.plz read the following about different stages of Aulia Allah. The following are details of groups of Awliya living on earth at any give time: 1.There are at any given time 4000 Awliya living on earth.They are not known and recognized by the general public.In fact,amongst them one does not know the other and they themselves are not aware of the validity of their actions and devotion. All these are hidden from them and the general public. 2.Three hundred(300) from this group are statemen involved in the administration of this world.They control all transaction in this Duniyah.They are the leaders of all Pious people in the Divine Court of Allah Ta'Ala.They are known as AKHYAR. 3.Amongst these 300,there are 40 who are known as ABDAL-BUDALA. 4.Amongst these 40,seven(7) are ABRAR. 5.Amongst these 7,four(4) are AWTAD. 6.Amongst these 4,three(3) are NO'QABAH. 7.Amongst these 3,one(1) is known as the GHAWTH or QUTB.He is the most senior of them all and the Head and Chairperson of the spiritual assembly. Shaykh al-Akbar(ra) in his famous Futuhat al-Makkiyyah records in the 157th section of the 31st chapter as follows:The seven(7) ABRAR are known as ABDAL,who are appointed the Wilayat(control) of the seven(7) sections of this earth.They are seven(7) selected ones and blessed with enormous duty by Allah Ta'Ala.They protect these seven regions with great exactitude.Shaykh al-Akbar(ra) also says that he met them in the scared Haram of Makkah al-Mukarrama.He greeted them and they replied to him and also had a discussion with them.Shaykh al-Akbar(ra) states that he had not found anyone more attractive and handsome than them neither had he seem anyone more absorbed in IBADAH than them.Shaykh then said:"Yes!I did certainly meet one person similar to them in a town called Konya." To accomplish these three standards of conduct is to reach the level of Qutbanniyya, to become a Qutub. The scholars are the inheritors of the prophets. This does not refer to those scholars who gained their knowledge from books, but rather those Aqtab to whom Allah opened these six powers in their hearts, and the knowledge of their seven personal names. The five highest levels of Qutub are: Qutub, Qutub al-Bilad, Qutub al-Mutassarif, Qutub al-Irshad, and Qutub al-Aqtab. Qutub is the one whom Allah granted a power that brings out from the essence of Muhammad to extract knowledge from non-existence of the Prophet into this dunya. He extracts new knowledge from the heart of the Prophet Muhammad ?. This is the first level Qutub. Qutub al-Bilad is responsible for the order of this world and to hold it together. He knows the needs of every race or group of creatures. Qutub al-Irshad advises the 124,000 Awliya. Qutub al-Mutassarif is authorized to channel the “happy angels” (as we described before) to different people and creatures, and is responsible even for the smallest worm that dwells inside a rock. And all of these are coming from Sayedena Muhammad (S). Qutub al-Aqtab supervises and is responsible for all other Aqtab. ? The Quawth Above all five Aqtab is the Quawth. He is between the “Pillar of Pillars” and the Prophet. He is the pipe, the channel. Sayed Bahauddin Naqshband was one of them, as was Sayed Abdul Qadir al-Jilani. From century to century they differ. The Aqtab and the Quawth generate - directly from the heart of the Prophet (s) · all knowledge's and all events that transpire in this world, from wind, to earthquakes, to rain. They must be ashraf from both paternal and maternal lineage, from Ahl al-Bayt, Hassani and Husayni. If by any chance they are not from the family of the Prophet and they are able to reach that level, then they will inherit from Salman al-Farsi, for the Prophet included him as a member of Ahl al-Bayt. He told his wife not to cover in front of Sayyidi Salman, saying, Salman minee Ahlul Bayt, although he had emigrated to the Prophet from Persia. · Every matter of the universe is in the hands of these Aqtab, coming from Allah to Prophet, from Prophet to the aqtab. Wa yahmiloon ‘arsh ar-rahmanu yaumaidhin thamaaneeya. · Allah created eight angels to carry the Divine Throne; no one else can carry it. Allah created these angels in a form beyond description. These eight were happy to carry the Throne, not proud, but they began to consider themselves the highest level of angels. · Allah decided to show them His Greatness and that they are nothing. He dissolved everything underneath them and they no longer had support. Then is the Throne carrying them? · These eight angels send their power to the six awliya we just mentioned. Allah said, “I am creating a khalifa on earth.” They replied, “Are you going to create those who will make corruption on earth and shed blood and ...” · Allah showed that they would be praised ones. In fact, these Aqtabs and the Quawth support the angels. If any of them are from other than the Naqshbandi Sufi Order, Allah gives permission to Prophet, and Prophet gives permission to their shaykh to carry the Naqshbandi Order in addition to whatever other Sufi Order they carry. · That is why such awliya carry power from seven different tariqats. · As Qutubs are five in number at all times, when one passes he is replaced by another. · Allah created unique ones, the essence of the Qutubs, to take ecstasy and knowledge from every name of Allah ?. That knowledge they extract brings them to a state of ecstasy that no one could find except through those beautiful Names of Allah. From every unique name they can experience 700,000 different levels of ecstasy, from which they can pull out for humanity 700,000 different wisdoms. After they move into these Oceans of wisdom and knowledge and their veils are pulled away, they will reach the Divine Presence at a place where they will observe the verse Allahu nuru samawati wal ard: “Allah is the Light of the heavens and earth.” And they cannot see except that light. Edited 2 جون 2009 by Chishti Qadri اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUWAHID مراسلہ: 3 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 3 جون 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) Jab saaray kaam inon nay sanbaal lia hain to batao Allah ki zaroorat baki reh gai hai? (Astaghfair-u-Allah) Aur agar tum ya tum sub main say koi mar jaya to us k lia jinazy main bakhshish ki dua Allah say maangay k ya in qutab abdaalon say? Edited 3 جون 2009 by MOUWAHID اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdulsalam مراسلہ: 3 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 3 جون 2009 "Qutub is the one whom Allah granted a power that brings out from the essence of Muhammad to extract knowledge from non-existence of the Prophet into this dunya." He extracts new knowledge from the heart of the Prophet Muhammad ?. This is the first level Qutub. Has these details of Ghows, Qutub, Abdal, can be get from some authentic source i.e. Quran, Ahadeeth, or Aqwal-e-Sahaba ??? NO i'm 100% sure......! You qouted the Ib-e-Arabi's book about it, so you are the one who made the Rab to their Saints/Ulama by not getting the proof of it from Quran and Sunna while in your previous posts and your gievn link's posts says, first get approve all the saysings and act from Quran and Hadeeth and if they got failed on it, don not accept it. Secondly can you please let me know the translation of the lien i've quoted on top??? Waiting for your response Abdul Salam اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 28 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 28 جولائی 2009 Janab Ahadees Sharif hain aap daikh lain... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUWAHID مراسلہ: 30 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جولائی 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) @Chishti Qadri Jab aap ghous qutab abdal k taswar ko maan rahay ho to ooper Asim bhai ko jawab hi day do! Wohan to aap nayy keh dia k humaray pass itna time nahi aaap khud tehqeeq kero Edited 30 جولائی 2009 by MOUWAHID اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 30 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جولائی 2009 Janab Mouwahid yeh sab likhnay say pehlay ooper wala post par laitay tu shayad sawal karnay ke zehmat na hoty laikan wajah yeh hay keh taausab ke wajah say aap aisa kartay hain.Aap k Abdul Salam Sb.nain is par proof k taur par Ahadees Sharif mangee theen woh is nacheez nain paish kar de hain. Aur raha Asim Sb.ka walat ka jawab tu woh bhee un main mojoud hay zara ghour say parnay ke zaroorat hay. Un ka yeh sawal keh kya har Wali,Allah AzawaJal k Noor e Mubarak say daikhta hay tu janab Hadees Sharif ka mafhoom hay keh Momin ke farasat say daro kyon keh woh Allah k Noor say daikhta hay.Us main itna taamal karnay ke kya zaroorat hay??? Aur ahle Kashaf aur Ahl Ullah jantay he hain keh is waqat ka Ghous kon hay aur Qutb kon hay. Aur end wali bat tu Janab Asim Sb. nain sach farmay aur yeh haq hay keh yeh sab Aulia Allah Alhamdo Lillah Sunnion main he hain.Tum kya janu jo keh english govt.ka gift ho subcontinent main........ اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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