Mohammed Saeed مراسلہ: 31 مئی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 31 مئی 2009 iss book mein tehzeer un nas ka jo hawala hai oos mein kaha gaya hai ke yeh 3 ibaraat 3 alag pages se li gaye hain writer ne har ibarat pe number de ke haashia mein oos ka page number likha hai.Mein ne iss forum mein tehzeer un nas ke page 34 ki scan dekhi hai lekin yahan clearly kaha gaya hai ke yeh 3 alag pages ki ibaraat hain.Agar iss ka jawab dia ja chuka ho tou ba rah e meherbani mujhe dobara jawab de dein.mujhe app ke keemti waqt ka ehsas hai lekin muje iss ka jawab aik deobandi ko dena hai.Allah app ka haami o nasir ho. Ameen [a ttachment=29044:57.gif] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Mohammadah مراسلہ: 31 مئی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 31 مئی 2009 Tehzeer-un-Naas ke Difa ka Ta'aqub Qasim Nanotwi par kufr kyu lazim hua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybarite مراسلہ: 9 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 9 جون 2009 Iss zaman mein Ghazali-e-Zaman Hazrat Allama Ahmed Saeed Kazmi (Rehmatullahe Ta'la Allaihe) ka mudallal jawab hazir-e-khidmat hai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny_prince2020 مراسلہ: 27 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 27 جون 2009 ye keh dena k wo teenon ibartain bazat e khud kufriya hain is haqeeqat ko nahi taal sakta k moulvi ahmad raza khan nay jo ibarat ulama e harmain k samney paish ki thi wo aik hi thi or wo in teenon ibarton ko jama kar k banaye gaye thi baki brelvi is ko bachaney k liye ab jitni marzi taveelain kar lain haqeeqat nahi badal sakti ye hi waja hay k Moulvi Ahmad Yaar Khan naeemi gujrati nay ibarton ki tarteeb hi badal di ja al haq may hisamul harmain may ye kufar ka fatawa tahzeerun nas sey shuru hota hay ab chun k ye hi masla hay pehla jahan brelvi phastey hain us ko bachaney k liye gujrati sahab nay hifzul iman ki ibarat agey kar di Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamHanfi مراسلہ: 22 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 جولائی 2009 Dear All, pls tell me why Pir Karam Ali shah and pir Mahr Ali shah sab refuse to give fatwa againt TAhzir-unas. i have studied Tahzir-u-nas mairi nazar main, but pir sab accept there That Qasim nanootavi beliver at Khatmain Nabuwat. and i do not consider him munkar of Khatmain nabuwat. in this way both pir becomes kafir?????? tell me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 22 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 جولائی 2009 What does it mean that if they have not issued their fatwa against them then they accept him a muslim??? Dear their silence upon this matter does not reveal that they have accepted all these things that are written by Qasim Nanotwi or Thaanvi.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny_prince2020 مراسلہ: 22 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 جولائی 2009 What does it mean that if they have not issued their fatwa against them then they accept him a muslim??? Dear their silence upon this matter does not reveal that they have accepted all these things that are written by Qasim Nanotwi or Thaanvi.. read the above post of i am hanafi again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamHanfi مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 kon khata ha k khamush rahnay k matlab jo tum nay biyan kia wo ha. let study thier books and comments then decide. For you kind information Pir Mahr Ali shah writes Deoband Ahle-sunnat wal Jamat in Fatawa Mahria, Pir Karam Ali shah also accept Deoband Ahle-sunnat wal Jamat in his tafseer this is evedence of your home. kaho kia kahtay ho ab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Janab ImHanfi Sb aap nain b woh he kaam kia jaisa keh pehlay deobandi kar rahay hain.Aap nain Huzoor Qibla e Aalam Pir Syed Mehar Ali Shah Rehmat Ullah e Alaih ke book ka initiative paish kia jo keh Hazrat Sb ka likha hua he nahi hay.Aur is main kon se aisi bat hay jis say yeh sabat ho keh aap nain aisa fatwa issue karnay say roka hay????Silent ka yeh matlab nahi hota janab keh unhon nain yeh sab kufria abaratain tasleem kar leen. Aur dosri book jo aap nain paish ke jis main aap nain Rehmat Ullah e Alaih aur dosray alfaz ko underline kia hua hay woh Huzoor Qibla e Aalam k halaat e zindagi par book likhy hui hay na keh Hazrat Sb ke apni book hay.Post karnay say pehlay thora sa daikh tu lia karain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Ab aayn zara apnay ghar par he nazar utha kar daikh lain.Aap k Ulma na kya fatwa dia aap k akabar par.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamHanfi مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Janab Barlvi Sab, shayad ap nay maira post sahe nahe para, I have mentioned that Pir Mahr ali shah SAB nay fatawa mahria main Doeband ko Ahle Sunnat jammat likh, Pir Karam ali shah nay apni tafsir main Doeband ko ahle sunnat jammat likh, ye baat app tou hazam kar gay, and tahzir unas main peer karam shah ka aqeeda about Qasim Nanotavi k matalaq b para ho ga. esko b app hazam kar gay. PLS REPLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Janab ImHanfi Sb.Araz hay keh kya woh post quote kar saktay hain jis main Huzoor Qibla e Allam nain Deobandeon ko Ahle Sunnat qarar dia???Meharbani ho ge. Aur Hazrat Pir Karam Shah Sb wali post ka jawab aap is link main daikh saktay hain. http://www.ja-alhaq.com/ja-alhaq-tube.html...tlink&id=70 and http://www.ja-alhaq.com/index.php?option=c...tlink&id=44 Aur rahy bat in k kufar ke tu us par aur buhat say topics man debate ho chuki hay,aap search kar k daikh lain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamHanfi مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 KAZINAT-UL-Marfat ko app HALWA SAMAJ kar kha gay fURTHER jis person nay ye kitab likhi ha Pir Mahr ali shah sab ki, wo tou yaqinan Barelvion k nazdeek KAFIR HO GA, kia kiyal ha app ka, aur Dawate-isalmi ka fatwa be ha k jo ulma deoband ko muslim jany zara say be wo kafir. SO YOU ACCEPT THAT BOOK LEKHNAY WALA PERSON KAFIR HA. IF YOU NEED FATAWA THEN I CAN SEND YOU. THANKS NEE REPLY, pls also confirm me kia app k Ala Hazarat nay Ulma deoband ko Kafir lekha ha yan nahe MAIRI WORDING KO HALWA MAT SAMAJNA AUR NA HE KOE KHTAM K kah jao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamHanfi مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Peer Karam Ali shah ka eswaqat mairay bas lik majood ha, es page number 11 study karo. 3rd line main peer sab liktain ha kay, AHLE SUNNAT JAMMAT KA APAS MAIN IKHTALAF HA JIS NAY UNKO 2GROUPS MAIN BANT DIA. complete study karna takay app ki tasali ho jay. AUR PIR SAB KO AHMED RAZA SAY ITNI MOHABBAT THI K PURI TAFSEER MAIN 3BAR UNKA HAWALA LIA AUR DOEBAND ULMA SAY ITNI MOHABBAT THI K 27 PLACES PAR DOEBAND KI BOOKS SAY HAWALA LIA. KNOW YOU CAN GUSS KAHAN 3 BAR AUR KAHAN 27 BAR. WAJI WA KIA BAAT HA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Now I m going to attach a letter written by AlaHazrat Rehmat Ullah e Alaih to your Ashraf Thanvi about the same topic.Aap daikh lain keh Alahazrat kya farma rahay hain.Fatwa dia ya nai, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 ImHanfi Sb aap nain real meanings main yeh bat sabat kar de keh kam aqali aap sab deo k bando ko warasat main mili hay.Kya kisi ka tazkara karnay ya na karnay say yeh bat sabat ho jaty hay keh fulan say muhabbat hay ya nahi?????Aur unhon nain deo k bando k hawalay is lia dia keh ta keh yeh zahar ho keh mukhalaf b sacchay man nay par majboor hay.Ab apnay log tu hotay he apnay hain janab. Aur aap Huzoor Qibla e Allam Pir Mehar Ali Shah wali bat tu hazam he kar gay. aik shair hay aap ke nazar jis paraap nain abhi bat ke hay. Yeh ihtiat e tamanna,yeh ehtrame junoon Tera zikar b karon,aur naam na lonn Aap is verse ko samaj lain aap k lia kafi hay at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Aap nain yeh likha keh Huzoor Qibla e Aalam Hazrat Pir Mehar Ali Shah Rehmat Ullah e Alaih nain Deo k bando ko Ahlesunnat likha aur us ka jawab hazam kar gay. Ab daikhain is ka jawab. http://www.ja-alhaq.com/component/seyret/?...tlink&id=87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamHanfi مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 pls read my reply carefully i mentioned eswaqat mairay pass Pir karam ali shah ka hawala ha jo mainy mentioned kia, Pir Mahr Ali Shah insha Allah jald doon ga. mainy kuch hazam nahe kia but still you did not reply my quest. 1) Wa wa kia baat kia ap nay, Sawal kia aur jawab kia diya, I AM REPEATING AGAIN. DID AHMED RAZA SAID DEOBAND KAFIR OR NOT. i need reply of this and youR past what i did not need. 2) KIA PIR MAHR KI BOOK LEKHNAY WALA KAFIR HOGA, BECAUSE HE WRITE UMLA DEOBAND MUSLIM AND RAHMATULLA WITH NAME. according to fatawa of Dawatisalmi 3) KAZINAT-UL-Marfat ko app HALWA SAMAJ kar kha gay 4) PIR KARAM SHAH SAB KA HAWAL TUM NAY STUDY TOU KIA HOGA BUT YOU DID NOT REPLY ME. i NEED REPLY ONE BY ONE, please remember this is not halwa or 11sharif to eat and use hajmula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toheedi Bhai مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جولائی 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
سگِ عطار مراسلہ: 27 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 27 جولائی 2009 to All Muslims.. Yeh Topic Hussam ul Huramain Sey Related Hai.. Jiska Tafseeli jawab Touheedi Bhai Ney post Ker Diya Hai.. Bama imHanfi Deobandi key Aetarazat Key Jawabaat... Topic apney Mozo sey Hat Gaya Hai.. Aur imHanfi ki Tamam Posts Main Ney Read Ki Hain.. Behs bara-e-Behs Key Siwa Kuch Nhin Hai... Pir Karam ali Shah Sahib Key Letter aur Kitab Ka Jawab Aap Apney Molvi Muta'liaa Bareviat Key Musanif Sey Laa Ker Humein Dein.. Aur Ager Muta'liaa Barelviat Ka Musanif Aap Key Nazdeek Motabar Nhin Hai Tu Is Kitab Sey Bara'at Ka Izhaar Kerein.. Aur Ager Aap Munazra Section Mein Post Kertey Hain tu Aap Key Pas Kuch Malomaat Bhi Honi Chahyen.. Aur Haal Yeh Hai Key Ilzami Jawab ka Ilm Nhin... Aur Lazoom wa Iltazam e Kufr Per tu Aapka Qasoor Bhi Nhin.. Woh Tu Aap Key Molviyon Ko Bhi Ilm Nhin.. Aur Aetaraz Aap Kertey Hain Aalahazrat Per.. Mazeeed Malomaat Key Liye Yeh Book Read Kejiye... لزوم و التزام کفر اور مولوی اسماعیل دہلوی Aapki Fuzool Posts Is Forum Per Allow Nhin Hain.. Ager Tehzeer un Naas Key Muta'aliq Koi Behter Jawab Miley (Pir Karam Shah Sahib Key Ilawah) tu Us Sey Related Topic Mein Post Kerein.. Topic Locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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