Aik ho Jaoo Islam ke nam per

[Abdulsalam]

Jee baqaul Wahabiyat kay aap Mushrik hen is leyeh jab taq aap Muwahideen kee jammat say nah hoon aap say baat kerna jahiz nahin, pehlay muwahid baneh aur Shirk choren.

.......... agir kuch ata heh, kohi deen kee sudh budh heh Tawheed aur Shirk, ka pata heh toh jawab doh, warna ... bas laga reh ...

Han Khawb (dreams) acha hai dekhtye rahain................Mr. Muhammad Ali Razavi sahib.................

 

Buhat Aalim o Fazil hain aap main to hon hi....cha Piddi cha Piddi ka shorba.... ur is per koi afsoos nahin............

 

Wapis aa Jayen isi topic per ya phir kehdain ke aap Firqa Bandi ko chorna hi nahin chahtye hain kion ke is tarha to aap ka maqsad fout ho jayega...... kuch logon ka is zamanye main yahi maqsad hai ke ikhtilaf ko hawa dekar apni buzargi or ilmiyat ko zahir karna or dunya kamana... wagar na aap ko to forun ikhilaf ko bhula kar aik honye ke liye mera hath ko mazboot karna chahiye..........?

 

Hazrat Hasan ki sunnat hi puri kar lain... ya phir aap ke nazdeek Sulah-e-Hudebiya ki jo hasiyat hai usi ke tehat sahi

 

Main dobara Aap ko, Yasir Attari ko, Sybarite ko, Toheedi sahib ko, Saeedi sahib ko, or tamam logon ko ikhtilaf ko bhula kar Islam or deen ke naam per aik honye ki dawat deta hon....... humyen is waqt zaroorat hai or dushman-e-deen yahi chahta hai ke hum ikhtilafat main parye rahyen or woh apna kam kar guzrye.............

 

 

Abdul Salam

Edited 19 مئی 2009 by Abdulsalam

[RadiatingAli]

Han Khawb (dreams) acha hai dekhtye rahain................Mr. Muhammad Ali Razavi sahib.................

Buhat Aalim o Fazil hain aap main to hon hi....cha Piddi cha Piddi ka shorba.... ur is per koi afsoos nahin............

Wapis aa Jayen isi topic per ya phir kehdain ke aap Firqa Bandi ko chorna hi nahin chahtye hain kion ke is tarha to aap ka maqsad fout ho jayega...... kuch logon ka is zamanye main yahi maqsad hai ke ikhtilaf ko hawa dekar apni buzargi or ilmiyat ko zahir karna or dunya kamana... wagar na aap ko to forun ikhilaf ko bhula kar aik honye ke liye mera hath ko mazboot karna chahiye..........?

Hazrat Hasan ki sunnat hi puri kar lain... ya phir aap ke nazdeek Sulah-e-Hudebiya ki jo hasiyat hai usi ke tehat sahi

Main dobara Aap ko, Yasir Attari ko, Sybarite ko, Toheedi sahib ko, Saeedi sahib ko, or tamam logon ko ikhtilaf ko bhula kar Islam or deen ke naam per aik honye ki dawat deta hon....... humyen is waqt zaroorat hai or dushman-e-deen yahi chahta hai ke hum ikhtilafat main parye rahyen or woh apna kam kar guzrye.............

Abdul Salam

 

Firqa bandi ko aap choren ... ham toh Alhamdulillah Sunni hen, aur hamaray aqahid, hamaray ham maslak toh Sahabah say leh ker aaj taq thay aur ta qayamat taq rahen gay. Firqa aap ka heh, Wahabi hazrat Ahle Sunnat say kharij huway, 17th century me Jammat ko chor ker FIRQA banaya, Ibnul Wahab Najdi say pehlay Ibn Taymiyah, aur us say pehlay Khariji aap kay ham maslak hen. Wahabiat kee bunyaad Ibn Taymiyah nay rakhi, pehli aur khatam ho gaee, aur phir Abdul Wahab Najdi Tamimi nay us meh nahi rooh phonki aur 17th century say mutawatir chali aa rahi heh. Aur RasoolAllah ka farmaan heh kay ek jammat har dor meh haq kay leyeh larti rahay gee, agir Wahabiat sahih deen hota toh 15th century meh be hota aur generation after generation us kay fallowers hotay. Yeh zahir hona phir mit jana Kharijiat kee sift heh keyun kay RasoolAllah nay farmaya thah kay Ahle Najdia Qayamat taq nikaltay rahen gay, yehni khatam hoon gay phir ubar ahaen gay phir maray jahen gay phir ubar ahen gay aur aakhiri goro dajjal say millay ga.

 

Aur Ahle Sunnat kay aqahid har dor meh, aur hamaray Ulamah kay us'satza kee chain wapis RasoolAllah taq jaati heh, Imam Ahmad Raza Khan kay us'satza Murshid, un kay murshid, un kay murshid, un kay murshid, un kay murshid, un kay murshid, yehni mutawatir chain begher munqata honay kay, ek generation say pichli taq aur us say pichli taq ... Sahabah say hoti huwi RasoolAllah taq jaati heh. Aur RasoolAllah ka farmaan thah kay har dor meh haq aqeedah e haq kay larnay walay mojood hoon gay, hamari tawatur sabit hoti heh. Wahabiat ke 17th century taq jaati heh aur phir 700 saal ka waqfa ata heh aur phir Ibn Taymiyah say milti heh, aur phir Ibn Taymiyah taq hee khatam ho jaati heh. Joh thori soch rakhta heh aur ghor o fikr wala heh joh uper likha heh ussay perh ker kee Sunniat ka haq hona samaj leh ga, keyuun kay RasoolAllah ka farmaan kay HAR DOR MEH EK JAMMAT HOGI JOH HAQ KAY LEYEH LARAY GEE Sunniat kee daleel heh, hamaray aqahid toh Ibn Abbas radiallah tallah taq jatay hen, Tabi'tabiun taq jatay hen ... AUR wAHABIA ka 17th century kay baad shoron hona batal honay kee daleel heh keyun kay agir sach hoti toh har dor meh hoti, aur agir tumara dawah kay wahabiat har dor meh thee toh Ibnul Wahab Najdi kay us'satza aur un kay us'satza jis say is nay Wahabiat kee taleem hasil kee un kay naam pesh kero nahin ker sako gay aur agir ker bee deeya toh sab KHARIJI hoon gay.

 

Is leyeh aap Firqabandi ko choren aur Jammat meh dakhal hoon, ham Firqabandi ko tab choren jab ham ek Firqa hoon, ham Jammat hen jis saay aap kay Ibnul Wahab Najdi nay baghawat kee aur Sunniyoon ko qatal keeya, Mushrik tehra ker auratoon ko, bachoon ko, aur Ulamah o Mushaikh ko zabiyah keeya. Jammat say kharij aap huway aur jammat meh wapis anay ka tareeqa sirf ek hee heh kay aqahid e Shirkia o Biddatia say toba keren.

 

Dosra ikhtilaaf kee bunyaad ham nay nahin qanay Najdi Wahabiat nay rakhi, tooh pehlay apnay WAHABIYOON ko manwa kay BARELWIYOON say ittehad kerna chahyeh, jab teri Najdiat tiyaar ho jahay phir ana ITTEHAD KA AHLE SUNNAT KO KEHNA. Aur RasoolAllah nay Najdiat say ittehaad ka nahin BALKAY QATAL KA HOKAM DEEYA HEH YEHNI NAJDIA WAHABIA KO ESAY QATAL kero kay jesay qom e aad alayhis salam kee tera mitahi gaee, yehni in ka naam o nishaan eent pathar taq nah choro.

 

Allah tallah ka karam heh kay Pakistani fojh nay Wahabiyoon ko qatal krna shoroon keeya heh, Allah tallah Talibaan ko gharq keray aur Sunniyoon ko Wahabiyoon Deobandiyoon Shiyoon Qadiyaniyoon ko qatal kernay kee tofeeq deh.

 

Raha Hazrat Hassan radiallah tallah kee Sunnat ka mamla toh aap kay leyeh SAHABAH ka amal KAB SAY HUJJAT HO GAYA, ek Wahabi ata heh aur kehta heh Sahabah ka amal HUJJAT nahin sirf RasoolAllah ka amal hujjat heh, dosra ata heh Sahabah kay amal ko hujjat batata heh. Wesay Hazrat Hassan radiallah tallah anh ka ikhtilaaf Hazrat Muawiyah radiallah tallah anh say aqahid pr nahin thah, aap toh MUSHRIK, SHIRK, GRAVE WORSHIPPER, MUSHRIK KAFFIR, BIDDATI, IDOL WORSHIPPER, ka label deh ker ITTEHAAD kernay ahay hen. Joh Ikhtilaaf donoon Sahabah meh thah woh bunyaadi aqahid per nahin nazriyati ikhtilaaf thah Ijtihadi ikhtilaaf thah aur us per ITTEHAD huwa, agir hota ikhtilaaf aqahid per, Hazrat Hassan radiallah tallah anh Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah radiallah tallah anh ko Mushrik, Kaffir, Biddati, Shirk, Idol Worshipper tehra ker phir be Ittehad kertay toh socha ja sakta thah kay itnay fatway denay kay baad ittehad ker leeya toh ham be ker saktay hen, jab aap kee wahabiat ham ko shoroon say hee, siray hee say, MUSALMAN NAHIN MANTI MUSHRIK YEHNI KAFFIR likhti, kehti, pukarti, heh toh ittehad kis baat per keren gay? Aur aap kay HAQEEQAT nay toh aah ker aap ko kaha thah kay ABDULSALAM nay ghalti kee MUSHRIK say ittehad nahin hota ... ya aap WahaBIAT kay asooloon ko ghalat samjtay hen aur mantay nahin ya phir AAP HAM KO PAGAL BANA RAHAY.

 

Wahabi, Deobandi, Shia, Qadiyani, Munkireen e Hadith, kissi say be ITTEHAD nahin keeya ja sakta, ittifaq keeya ja sakta heh magir ittehad nahin, Ittifaaq yehni kissi maslay per sab ka fesla ek hona, aur ittehad kay sab ka ek hona. Tawheed per hamara ittifaq heh magir Wahabiat say ITTEHAD nahin, ITTEFAQ AUR ITTIHAD MEH FARQ maloom keren.

 

Sula Hudaibiyah, Musalmanoon aur Kaffiroon kay darmiyaan huwi thee, ham toh alhamdulillah Ahle Sunnat, yehni Ahle Hadith, Wal Jammat e Sahabah hen, aap likh denh kay aap KAFFIR MUSHRIK HEN, is kaay baad Sula Hudaibiyah asoloon kay mutabiq chand sharahit rakhen gay agir aap ko qabool huween toh ITTEHAD HEE ITTIHAD HEH AUR AGIR NAHIN TOH kam say kam aap ka KAFFIR HONAY apnay ilfaaz say hee sabit ho jahay ga.

 

Shahid tum ko dushman e deen pakistan kee fojh lag rahi heh, abh keyun kay Wahabiat ko mitaya ja raha heh Swaat weghera say toh tum ko ittehad kee soji, jahan taq mera experience heh, jidhar be Wahabiat ka control huwa Sunni Ulamah o awaam qatal huway, Awliyah Allah kee toheen kee gaee, aur biddat ko pehlaya gaya, yehni chori kee sazza maut, halan kay shariat meh haath qatnay kee sazza heh, magir swaat meh Ahle Wahabia kay mutabiq maut heh. Zina kay sabit honay kay leyeh chaar gawahoon kee nahin balkay muhallay kee gossip kafi heh aap ko sangsar kerwanay kay leyeh ... wegheera weghera ... Wahabiat sirf usee waqt taq acahay piyaar say rehti heh jab taq Wahabi power meh nah hoon aur minority hoon jahan per majority ho aur power meh hoon, baqi sab kee sakhti aa gaee. Sunniyoon kee bad baskhti kay Wahabiyoon ko qatal nahin kertay, halanh kay jab bee Wahabi ko moqa mila power milli Sunni ko pehlay qatal hamari Masjidoon, Madrassoon, Kitabooh, aur mazaraat e Awliyah ko tora mora gaya ... magir Sunni nay sufiat ko nahin chorna ... dil kissi ka nahin dukhana ... Wahabi ahay puray muhallay kay mardoon ko qatalkeren aur auratoon ko be abrooh ker jahen magir Sufi nay apni I LOVER EVERYONE, I LOVE PEACE, I LOVE YOU WAHABIS EVEN IF U WANA KILL MEH I STILL WILL NOT RETALIATE, PEACE! PEACE! PEACE! ko nahin chorna, agir sufiat meh kuch bura heh toh yeh un kee PIYAAR, MUHABBAT, WAHABI KO MAT KUCH KAHO, MARNA NAHIN IN BICHARAOON KO, ALLAH JEE KEE MAKHLOOQ HEN, IS WAHABI KO MAAR KO TUM IS KEE MAAN KA KITNA DUKH DUKHAHO GAY, PEACE! Yeh piyaar muhabbat Wahabiat kay leyeh nahin Sunniyoon kay leyeh heh, Wahabiyoon kay leyeh Jihadal kufara wal munafiqeena, joh RasoolAllah kay saath hen woh kaffiroon say sakhti kertay hen ... in kaffiroon say muhabat nahin jang, qatal, in kee auratoon bachoon ko ghulaam bana'na jahiz aur ba'hay say sawab heh, aur Allah nay esa kernay walay kay leyeh jannat meh reward rakha heh.

 

Allah tallah Sunniyoon ko, Wahabiat, Deobandiyoon, Shiyoon, Qadiyaniyoon ko qatal kernay kee tofeeq deh, aur har Sunni ko is pakeeza, aur nek khawahish ka talib banahay, ameen.

 

Keroon kia Wahabiya aqal pay matan teri,

Quran nah samaj sakka bewaqufi asliyat teri,

Tera qatal qom e Aad sa keroon,

heh yeh pakeeza khawahish meri,

 

Muhammed Ali Razavi

[Ya Allah Madad]

Keroon kia Wahabiya aqal pay matan teri,

Quran nah samaj sakka bewaqufi asliyat teri,

Tera qatal qom e Aad sa keroon,

heh yeh pakeeza khawahish meri,

Muhammed Ali Razavi

 

Tum mushrik log kia kisi se qitaal karoge...tumhari sunni history mein kisi ne kabhi talwar uthai hay jo ab uthaega..tum log us munafiq catagory mein shamil ho jin ke dil mein kabhi jihaad ka khiyal guzra ho...halway ki thaal uthane wale gun kia uthaingay...tumharay bare bare pait walay halwai mullah ye qitaal karengay...hah ha hah ....in logon ko bas masjid mein beth kar logon ka maal khana ata hay..kisi bhi naam par bas maal ana chahiye...ab to Ilyas Qadri ne bhi chanda jama karna shroo kar diya..madni channel par...kitabe aur cds sale karo..chande ki appeal karo aur bank account bharo..isi maqsad ke liye madni channel khula tha..aur apne aap ko un sunni sahaba se na milaya kionke tumhara koi kaam un jaysa nahi hay...SALAT E GHAUSIYA parh kar hajat rawai karne wale qitaal karengay..huh...

Edited 20 مئی 2009 by Ya Mohammadah
Wahabris dont quote whole text.

[RadiatingAli]

Tummeh gun uthana aati heh nah, yeh number loh aur apna doh: ***********1 england ka code laga lena saath, jab meh pakistan aaya aur inshallah chand maheenoon taq anay ka irada heh, phir tum gun leh ana, aqahid per munazirah aur agir fesla nah huwa toh phir mubailah aur phir tum gun be leh ana isnhallah fesla ho jahay ga mubaileh ka, meray bachay tujjay janazah bee naseeb nahin honay wala. Police kay kuttoon ko teri hadiyan be nahin millen gee. Wesay hijray be pistol kee goli maar saktay hen mushkil nahin mard ka bacha tab hoga jab talwar say muqabilah keray ga ... par tujjay gun ka shoq heh tooh gun hee leh ana.

 

Bagna mat abh gurda rakhna, yeh nah ho kay tooh baha'nay bana'nay lagay, muj meray rab kee kasam, wahdahu la shareek kee kasam, meh nahin bagoon ga tooh jaga muntakhib kerna, sirf tooh aur meh, nah tera kohi nah mera kohi, aqahid per munazireh aur agir fesla nah ho toh phir Mubailah aur phir baray shoq say midaan meh ajana, mujjay meray rab kee kasam tooh jaga muntakhib kerna meh wahan per mukerara din time per ajahoon ga. Tooh nay kitabooh ko munaziroon meh azmaya feslay nah huway, abh apnay aap ko be zera deen kay leyeh azmaish meh daal.

 

Number ek dafa phir likh deta hoon, mujjay call ker lena, warna mujjay numbr deh meh call ker doon ga: **********

 

MUhammed Ali Razavi

Edited 20 مئی 2009 by Ya Mohammadah
Josh me hosh na khoyein..dont share mobile nos or email on forum.

[RadiatingAli]

Tum mushrik log kia kisi se qitaal karoge...tumhari sunni history mein kisi ne kabhi talwar uthai hay jo ab uthaega..tum log us munafiq catagory mein shamil ho jin ke dil mein kabhi jihaad ka khiyal guzra ho...halway ki thaal uthane wale gun kia uthaingay...tumharay bare bare pait walay halwai mullah ye qitaal karengay...hah ha hah ....in logon ko bas masjid mein beth kar logon ka maal khana ata hay..kisi bhi naam par bas maal ana chahiye...ab to Ilyas Qadri ne bhi chanda jama karna shroo kar diya..madni channel par...kitabe aur cds sale karo..chande ki appeal karo aur bank account bharo..isi maqsad ke liye madni channel khula tha..aur apne aap ko un sunni sahaba se na milaya kionke tumhara koi kaam un jaysa nahi hay...SALAT E GHAUSIYA parh kar hajat rawai karne wale qitaal karengay..huh...

 

Aur tumara qatal nah kerna aur suicide damakay nah kerna, hakumat e waqt joh kay fasiq fajir munafiqeen kee hakumat heh magir phir be shariat meh ijazat nahin kay in kay khilaaf jang kee jahay, RasoolAllah nay farmaya kay agir hakim, zulm kerta heh, tum ko marta heh aur tumara maal cheen leta heh tum phir be baghawat nah kerna, zulmat meh rehna baghawat say behtr heh, itnay hadith hen joh hakim e waqt kay khilaaf baghawat say roktay hen cha'hay woh kitna hee bura keyun nah ho.

 

Aur agir Shariat meh ijazat hoti kay awaam qanoon ko apnay haath meh leh, rab e kabah kee kasam Wahabiyoh meh tummeh chun chun ker qatal kerta, yeh Wahabiyon ko qatal ka hokam Hakim ko thah aur jis per amal Hazrat Ali radiallah tallah nay keeya, tumaray ham-mazboon yehni khawarijiyoon ko qatal keeya. Aur nah hee Sahabah nay, Tabiyoon nay, ya Tabi'tabiyoon nay begher KHALIFAH kay hokam kay Kharijiyoon ko qatal keeya. Agir Shariat meh ijazat hoti kay Hakim e waqt kay hokay kay begher kissi ko qatal krnay kee toh WAHABIYO mujjay meray Rab kee kasam, meh tumaray maulviyoon ko chun chun ker marta Magir Shariat meh ijazat nahin aur khuda kee kasam agir dil meh khauf e khuda nah hota, aur jahanum kee aag ka khauf nah hota toh meh betha yahan likh nah raha hota, Wahabiyoon Deobandiyoon Shiyoon Qadiyaniyoon ko qatal ker raha hota.

 

Inshallah jab Imam Mahdi rahimullah alayhi tallah peda hoon gay, ham tummeh bakriyoon kee tera zabiyah keren gay. Jesay aaj tumaray bahiyoon ko Pakistani-Sunni fojh ker rahi heh. Sunni sher tumaray Wahabiyoon ko kuttoon kee tera hunt ker rahay hen, aur tumaray Wahabi auratoon kee tera chooriyan, aur naq meh nathni, aur pahoon meh gongroo pura make-up ker kay burka laga ker kuttoon kee tera baag rahay hen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raRV4WMQDFs hijroon kee tera chal rahay thay aur pakray gahay.

 

Inshallah tumaray Wahabi hijray hen sirf marketoon meh bomb damakay, bachoon kay schoolon ko suicide bombings, ker saktay hen, jab larnay kee bari aahi toh dekho hijroon kee tera baag rahay hen, inshallah pakistani fojh tummary Wahabi bahiyoon ko soowar kee mot'h maren gay.

[Ya Allah Madad]

Aur tumara qatal nah kerna aur suicide damakay nah kerna, hakumat e waqt joh kay fasiq fajir munafiqeen kee hakumat heh magir phir be shariat meh ijazat nahin kay in kay khilaaf jang kee jahay, RasoolAllah nay farmaya kay agir hakim, zulm kerta heh, tum ko marta heh aur tumara maal cheen leta heh tum phir be baghawat nah kerna, zulmat meh rehna baghawat say behtr heh, itnay hadith hen joh hakim e waqt kay khilaaf baghawat say roktay hen cha'hay woh kitna hee bura keyun nah ho.

 

Aur agir Shariat meh ijazat hoti kay awaam qanoon ko apnay haath meh leh, rab e kabah kee kasam Wahabiyoh meh tummeh chun chun ker qatal kerta, yeh Wahabiyon ko qatal ka hokam Hakim ko thah aur jis per amal Hazrat Ali radiallah tallah nay keeya, tumaray ham-mazboon yehni khawarijiyoon ko qatal keeya. Aur nah hee Sahabah nay, Tabiyoon nay, ya Tabi'tabiyoon nay begher KHALIFAH kay hokam kay Kharijiyoon ko qatal keeya. Agir Shariat meh ijazat hoti kay Hakim e waqt kay hokay kay begher kissi ko qatal krnay kee toh WAHABIYO mujjay meray Rab kee kasam, meh tumaray maulviyoon ko chun chun ker marta Magir Shariat meh ijazat nahin aur khuda kee kasam agir dil meh khauf e khuda nah hota, aur jahanum kee aag ka khauf nah hota toh meh betha yahan likh nah raha hota, Wahabiyoon Deobandiyoon Shiyoon Qadiyaniyoon ko qatal ker raha hota.

 

Inshallah jab Imam Mahdi rahimullah alayhi tallah peda hoon gay, ham tummeh bakriyoon kee tera zabiyah keren gay. Jesay aaj tumaray bahiyoon ko Pakistani-Sunni fojh ker rahi heh. Sunni sher tumaray Wahabiyoon ko kuttoon kee tera hunt ker rahay hen, aur tumaray Wahabi auratoon kee tera chooriyan, aur naq meh nathni, aur pahoon meh gongroo pura make-up ker kay burka laga ker kuttoon kee tera baag rahay hen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raRV4WMQDFs hijroon kee tera chal rahay thay aur pakray gahay.

 

Inshallah tumaray Wahabi hijray hen sirf marketoon meh bomb damakay, bachoon kay schoolon ko suicide bombings, ker saktay hen, jab larnay kee bari aahi toh dekho hijroon kee tera baag rahay hen, inshallah pakistani fojh tummary Wahabi bahiyoon ko soowar kee mot'h maren gay.

 

Ye baat to understood hay kay bralvion ke pass aqal naam ki koi cheez siray hay hi nahi...Khud Ahmed Raza tum logon ko virsay mein jahalat aur shirk daykar giya hay..agar aqal hoti to bralvi na hote..tum log jinko talbaan bol rahay ho itna bhi nahi pata ke actual mein ye kon hein..tum log ho hi jews ke agent isi liye usi media ki baat par yaqeen karte ho..agar mein tumhari jamaat mein  kuch logon ke saath shamil ho jaon..aur green pagri pehan kar aur kurta pajama pehan kar salat o salaam parhanay lagon aur bohot saray logon ko bhi shamil karloon magar meri niyat shamil hone ki kuch aur hay..aur thoray arsay mein tum log bhi humein apna saathi samjhne lago gay..mein phir wo kaam karoon jis maqsad ke liye jamaat join ki thi aur green pagri pehan kar salat o salam parhata hoa jagah jagah bum pharoon school tabah karoon aure pata nahi kia kia jo talbaan se mansoob kia jata hay ..to badnaam kon hoga..zahir sab yahi kahin gay ye to bralvi hein..ye sab american agent hein jo taalban ke roop men nazar arahay hein..inko pakistan ke Atomic plant par qabza karna hay..isi ke liye ye sara taalbaan ka drama rachaya ja raha hay wo wohi kar rahay hein jo unhein bataya ja raha hay..aur media bhi logon ko gumrah kar raha hay..magar koi baat nahi ..ye dunya hay ..yahan ka sab yahan hi rah jaega ..qayamat ka intazaar karo sari haqeeqat khul jaegi..na Sheikh Abdul Qadir jilani Ahmed Raza ko jootay marein to mujhe kehna..ke Ahmed Raza tune mujhe kia bana diya..mujh mein aur khuda mein farq hi kitna rah giya..sari sifat to mujh mein daal di tune jo Khuda ke liye thi..sirf itna farq wo maalik hay aur mein atai hoon..astaghfurullah..

 

 

Quran se hidayat letay to is gumrahi mein na partay jahan aakar gir gaey ho..tumhari language say hi pata chalta hay tumlog kitne hidayat yaafta ho..Khuda ka khauf agar tumko hota to tumhari zaban control mein rehti..jab aik cheez understood hay kay mushrikon ka bura anjaam hay isi liye inko bol kar kia faida..jinko jana hi jahannam nein hay..

[RadiatingAli]

Meh nay apna number deeya heh, abh is ka fesla meray aur tumaray darmiyaan pistol kee goli ya talwar kee daar keray gee, chal fone number deh, ya call ker, abh pent meh peshaab nikal gaya heh tumara kia?

 

Abh kahaniyan baad meh pehlay FONE number deh, kahaniyan baad meh, ya likh kay:

 

"Meh Ya.A.Madad Hijra hoon, meri pent meh mera peshaab nikal gaya heh, aur pistol kee naali dekh ker dil seenay say nikal ker baag nikla heh, mujjay maaf ker doh mera peshaab band nahin ho raha mot'h kay khof say."

 

Meh apna challenge wapis leh loon ga taqay tumara peshaab band ho.

 

Wesay tum un Sufiyoon say baat cheet kay aadi ho joh ilfaaz kay Sheer meh bigo ker moon say nikaltay hen, aur meray yeh Dawat e Islami kay meethay meethay bahi, meethi meethi bateh kertay hen, jab say meh aya hoon mujjay yaqeen heh tumara panch chay kilo wazan kam ho gaya hoga, meri posts perh kay.

 

Baqi meh tumari posts ka jawab kaam say farigh ho ker tafseelan doon ga.

Edited 20 مئی 2009 by RadiatingAli

[Ya Allah Madad]

Meh nay apna number deeya heh, abh is ka fesla meray aur tumaray darmiyaan pistol kee goli ya talwar kee daar keray gee, chal fone number deh, ya call ker, abh pent meh peshaab nikal gaya heh tumara kia?

 

Abh kahaniyan baad meh pehlay FONE number deh, kahaniyan baad meh, ya likh kay:

 

 

 

Meh apna challenge wapis leh loon ga taqay tumara peshaab band ho.

 

Wesay tum un Sufiyoon say baat cheet kay aadi ho joh ilfaaz kay Sheer meh bigo ker moon say nikaltay hen, aur meray yeh Dawat e Islami kay meethay meethay bahi, meethi meethi bateh kertay hen, jab say meh aya hoon mujjay yaqeen heh tumara panch chay kilo wazan kam ho gaya hoga, meri posts perh kay.

 

Baqi meh tumari posts ka jawab kaam say farigh ho ker tafseelan doon ga.

 

Mujhe tum logon ka asal chehra logonko ko dikhana tha jinko dekhna tha dekh chukay..jis ke pass koi daleel nahi hoti wo yuhi bakwaas karta hay..mujhe kia apni tarah jahil samjha hay kay mein falto falto logon ki fazool baton mein aaoon..aur tumko jawab doon..

[Abdulsalam]

 

Ye to main pehlye hi keh chuka hon ke aap ke Hum Maslak Hazrat ke Lenye ke or Denye ke baat alehda laehda hain..............

Zuban Waqt ke saath saath nihayat shereen hoti jaa rahi hai.......... or waqt guzra to khud ko hi shugar ki beemari ho jayegi

 

Mujhye ye bhi yaqeen hai ke meri is baat ka jawab ab koi bhi nahin dega.... siwaye Janab Radiatin Ali (in ka Blod Pressure bohat uooper ja chuka hai)...... koi baat nahin main koshis karta hon ke kuch kam ho jaye.......

 

ulte seedhaye faces main bhi bata sakta hon, zuban to khair main apni kharab nahin kar sakta, ultye seedhye daawye bhi kar sakta hon (lakin kia karon ghalat ya jhoot ki aadat nahin), Josh main main bhi aa sakta hon, marzi ke jawabat main bhi desakta hon, or marzi se us ka maana bhi nikal sakta hon, khush bhi ho sakta hon waghera waghera.................

 

Aap ne ab tak jitni bhi posts ka reply kia woh ya to irr relevent thi ya phir kahin ke sawal ka kahin or jawab jawab paste kia, apnye khud sakhta usoolon se istadlal kia or hum per jo usool garye un ka koi hawala/saboot nahin diya........

 

In sab ke bawajood aap ka kehna ke "aap ke aa janye ke baad hum pareshan ho gaye hongye" to janab aap se ziyada ilm rakhnye walye log is forum per aap ke hi maslak ke log pehlye hi sye hai............

 

in sab baton ka maqsad ye hai ke aap in sab ko chorain or agar ittihad nahin kar saktye to khamoosh ho jayen or kisi or ko bhi (Yaasir Attari, Toheedi, Saeedi, Sag-e-xxxxxx (maqsad tamam log jo khud ko sag kehtye hain) or etc. ko or agar nahin dena chahtye to phir wazeh karain ke hum nahin ikhtilaf ko bhoolnye walye........................ wagar aap ki baatain parh kar to jesa ke main ne kaha tha ke munafiqat ki boo aati hai to is ke ilawa hansi bhi aati hai (Buland Bang Daawye)

 

 

Main Apni baat Dobara dohrata hon

 

"Aik Ho Jaoo Islam Ke naam per kion ke waqt aagaye hai wagar na phir waqt guzar jayega"

 

Abdul Salam

[Abdulsalam]

 

Chand din pehlye ki aik report ke mutabiq, sawat main mara janye wala so called taliban aik ghair muslim tha

 

see the blogs and discussion, or main dobara yahi kahonga ke aankhyen band kar key har khabar per yaqeen nahin karna chahiye.... lehaza is khabar ka koi doosra rukh bhi ho sakta hai

lakin jab tak ke koi or rukh zahir nahin hota tab tak ke liye is baat ke sahi nonye ka imkan hai

 

Wallah o Aalam Bissawab

 

*************

 

Main ne link ko edit kar diya hai....

 

is link per aik qabil-e-aitiraz (barhana) tasweer mojood hai lakin na qabl-e-tardeed bhi

 

moderator and administrator ijazat dain to main is link ko past karon???????

 

Abdul Salam

Edited 25 مئی 2009 by Abdulsalam

[Ya Mohammadah]

Main ne link ko edit kar diya hai....

is link per aik qabil-e-aitiraz (barhana) tasweer mojood hai lakin na qabl-e-tardeed bhi

moderator and administrator ijazat dain to main is link ko past karon???????

Abdul Salam

 

Pehly apny ghar ki khwateen se is link par unki manzoori le aayie phir isy post karny ki humsy Ijazat mangiye ga..

[Abdulsalam]

Pehly apny ghar ki khwateen se is link par unki manzoori le aayie phir isy post karny ki humsy Ijazat mangiye ga..

 

 

Ghalati hoi ke tasweer ke barye main poocha

mujhye chahiye tha ke at least uske meter to to post kardeta

 

Khyer ab wahi kar raha hon

 

Indians Fighting In Swat

 

 

 

Warning: Explicit & Disturbing Pictures (Picture not include)

Please do not proceed beyond the written description if such material is offensive to you.

 

 

By Zaid Hamid And Ahmed quraishi

Wednesday, 20 May 2009.

WWW.AHMEDQURAISHI.COM

 

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—Pictures of Uzbek and Gurkhas non-Muslim militants killed during the Pakistani military sweep of the Swat Valley. These exclusive pictures show that they are uncircumcised. Their facial features prove they could be Gurkha fighters whom the Indian and the British militaries use to fight in mountainous regions. The Americans have also hired some of them. The pictures also show that some of theses killed terrorists could be Uzbeks from Abdul Rasheed Dostom’s murderous militias in Afghanistan that are allied with the U.S. occupation army and Kabul’s puppet government.

 

The question that arises here is this: Why is the Pakistani military’s media arm, the ISPR, not releasing these pictures to the Pakistani media? This is the biggest proof that Indians are not only sending trained butchers and terrorists from Afghanistan disguised as Taliban to kill Pakistanis, but there are actual Indians fighting within the ranks of this so-called Pakistani Taliban in Swat?

 

Is the Pakistani military afraid of the pro-U.S. government in Islamabad and does not want to cross the line? It is the responsibility of Mr. Rehman Malik, the Federal Interior Minister, to bring such evidence to the notice of the President, the Prime Minister, and the Foreign Minister so that the elected government could raise this issue with the United States and NATO and take a stand on the reason why these supposed allies of Pakistan are letting Afghanistan be used as a base for anti-Pakistan activities, especially by the Indians and their paid agents in the Kabul government. So why is this not happening? And why is Pakistan letting the United States and its allied government in Islamabad get away with the murder of Pakistanis at the hands of terrorists sent from Afghanistan?

 

 

Abdul Salam

[Abdulsalam]

 

Aap logon ki khidmat main aik or report ke saath hazir hon

 

Chand dinon pehlye RAND Corp ke barye main kuch dhondh raha tha to ye report haath lagi

is report ko yahan share karnye ka matlab filhal siwaye RAND Corp ke kisi or per ilzam lagana nahin bulke ye hi batana maqsood hai ke Dushman kis qisim ki chalen chal raha hai. or isi liye main ne ye post start bhi ki thi

 

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Cheryl Benard

Supported by the Smith Richardson Foundation

National Security Research Division

 

Benard, Cheryl, 1953Civil

democratic Islam, partners, resources, and strategies / Cheryl Benard.

p. cm.

MR-1716

Includes bibliographical references.

ISBN 0-8330-3438-3 (pbk.)

1. Islam and civil society. 2. Islamic modernism. 3. Democracy�Religious

aspects�Islam. 4. Islam�University. 5. Islam�21st century. I.Title.

BP173.63 .B46 2003

320.5'5'0917671�dc21

2003012442

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PREFACE

The Islamic world is involved in a struggle to determine its own nature and values, with serious implications for the future. What role can the rest of the world, threatened and affected as it is by this struggle, play in bringing about a more peaceful and positive outcome?

Devising a judicious approach requires a finely grained understanding of the ongoing ideological struggle within Islam, to identify appropriate partners and set realistic goals and means to encourage its evolution in a positive way.

The United States has three goals in regard to politicized Islam. First, it wants to prevent the spread of extremism and violence. Second, in doing so, it needs to avoid the impression that the United States is opposed to Islam. And third, in the longer run, it must find ways to help address the deeper economic, social, and political causes feeding Islamic radicalism and to encourage a move toward development and democratization.

The debates and conflicts that mark the current Islamic world can make the picture seem confusing. It becomes easier to sort the actors if one thinks of them not as belonging to distinct categories but as falling along a spectrum.

Their views on certain critical m arker issues help to locate them correctly on this spectrum.

It is then possible to see which part of the spectrum is generally compatible with our values, and which is fundamentally inimical. On this basis, this report identifies components of a specific strategy. This report should be of interest to scholars, policymakers, students, and all others interested in the Middle East, Islam, and political Islam.

SUMMARY

There is no question that contemporary Islam is in a volatile state, engaged in an internal and external struggle over its values, its identity, and its place in the world. Rival versions are contending for spiritual and political dominance. This conflict has serious costs and economic, social, political, and security implications for the rest of the world. Consequently, the West is making an increased effort to come to terms with, to understand, and to influence the outcome of this struggle. Clearly, the United States, the modern industrialized world, and indeed the international community as a whole would prefer an Islamic world that is compatible with the rest of the system: democratic, economically viable, politically stable, socially progressive, and follows the rules and norms of international conduct. They also want to prevent a clash of civilizations � � in all of its possible variantsfrom increased domestic unrest caused by conflicts between Muslim minorities and, native, populations in the West to increased militancy across the Muslim world and its consequences, instability and terrorism.

It therefore seems judicious to encourage the elements within the Islamic mix that are most compatible with global peace and the international community and that are friendly to democracy and modernity. However, correctly identifying these elements and finding the most suitable way to cooperate with them is not always easy.

Islam's current crisis has two main components: a failure to thrive and a loss of connection to the global mainstream. The Islamic world has been marked by a long period of backwardness and comparative powerlessness; many different solutions, such as nationalism, pan-Arabism, Arab socialism, and Islamic revolution, have been attempted without success, and this has led to frustration and anger. At the same time, the Islamic world has fallen out of step with contemporary global culture, an uncomfortable situation for both sides. Muslims disagree on what to do about this, and they disagree on what their society ultimately should look like. We can distinguish four essential positions:

Fundamentalists reject democratic values and contemporary Western culture. They want an authoritarian, puritanical state that will implement their extreme view of Islamic law and morality. They are willing to use innovation and modern technology to achieve that goal.

1) Traditionalists want a conservative society. They are suspicious of modernity, innovation, and change.

2) Modernists want the Islamic world to become part of global modernity. They want to modernize and reform Islam to bring it into line with the age

3) Secularists want the Islamic world to accept a division of church and state in the manner of Western industrial democracies, with religion relegated to the private sphere.

These groups hold distinctly different positions on essential issues that have become contentious in the Islamic world today, including political and individual freedom, education, the status of women, criminal justice, the legitimacy of reform and change, and attitudes toward the West.

The fundamentalists are hostile to the West and to the United States in particular and are intent, to varying degrees, on damaging and destroying democratic modernity. Supporting them is not an option, except for transitory tactical considerations. The traditionalists generally hold more moderate views, but there are significant differences between different groups of traditionalists.

Some are close to the fundamentalists. None wholeheartedly embraces modern democracy and the culture and values of modernity and, at best, can only make an uneasy peace with them.

The modernists and secularists are closest to the West in terms of values and policies. However, they are generally in a weaker position than the other groups, lacking powerful backing, financial resources, an effective infrastructure, and a public platform. The secularists, besides sometimes being unacceptable as allies on the basis of their broader ideological affiliation, also have trouble addressing the traditional sector of an Islamic audience.

Traditional orthodox Islam contains democratic elements that can be used to counter the repressive, authoritarian Islam of the fundamentalists, but it is not suited to be the primary vehicle of democratic Islam. That role falls to the Islamic odernists, whose effectiveness, however, has been limited by a number of constraints, which this report will explore.

To encourage positive change in the Islamic world toward greater democracy, modernity, and compatibility with the contemporary international world order, the United States and the West need to consider very carefully which elements, trends, and forces within Islam they intend to strengthen; what the goals and

Support the modernists first: Publish and distribute their works at subsidized cost. Encourage them to write for mass audiences and for youth. Introduce their views into the curriculum of Islamic education. Give them a public platform. Make their opinions and judgments on fundamental questions of religious interpretation available to a mass audience in competition with those of the fundamentalists and traditionalists, who have Web sites, publishing houses, schools, institutes, and many other vehicles for disseminating their views.

Position secularism and modernism as a counterculture option for disaffected Islamic youth. Facilitate and encourage an awareness of their pre- and non-Islamic history and culture, in the media and the curricula of relevant countries. Assist in the development of independent civic organizations, to promote civic culture and provide a space for ordinary citizens to educate themselves about the political process and to articulate their views.

Support the traditionalists against the fundamentalists: Publicize traditionalist criticism of fundamentalist violence and extremism; encourage disagreements between traditionalists and fundamentalists.

Discourage alliances between traditionalists and fundamentalists.

Encourage cooperation between modernists and the traditionalists who are closer to the modernist end of the spectrum. Where appropriate, educate the traditionalists to equip them better for debates against fundamentalists. Fundamentalists are often rhetorically superior, while traditionalists practice a politically inarticulate folk Islam. In such places as Central Asia, they may need to be educated and trained in orthodox Islam to be able to stand their ground. Increase the presence and profile of modernists in traditionalist institutions.

Discriminate between different sectors of traditionalism. Encourage those with a greater affinity to modernism, such as the Hanafi law school, versus others. Encourage them to issue religious opinions and popularize these to weaken the authority of backward Wahhabiinspired religious rulings. This relates to funding: Wahhabi money goes to the support of the conservative Hanbali school. It also relates to knowledge: More-backward parts of the Muslim world are not aware of advances in the application and interpretation of Islamic law.

Encourage the popularity and acceptance of Sufism.

Confront and oppose the fundamentalists:

Challenge their interpretation of Islam and expose inaccuracies.

Reveal their linkages to illegal groups and activities.

Publicize the consequences of their violent acts.

Demonstrate their inability to rule, to achieve positive development of their countries and communities.

Address these messages especially to young people, to pious traditionalist populations, to Muslim minorities in the West, and to women.

Avoid showing respect or admiration for the violent feats of fundamentalist extremists and terrorists. Cast them as disturbed and cowardly, not as evil heroes.

All these things shows what the Enemy realy wants to do to destabilize us

Abdul Salam