kya Hum Sunnion Ka Haj Wahabiyo ke peechy Hota Hai

[Abbas Qadri]

AIK SUNNI BHAI NAY SAWAL KIYA HAI KAY ALA HAZRAT KAY FATWAY KAY MUTABIQ DEOBANDI WAHABI KAY PEECHAY NAMAZ NAHI HOTI TO KIYA HUM JO HAJ KAY WAQT WAHAN KAY IMAM KA KHUTBA SUNTAY HAIN TO HAMAR HAJ KAISAY HO SAKTA HAI

[RadiatingAli]

AIK SUNNI BHAI NAY SAWAL KIYA HAI KAY ALA HAZRAT KAY FATWAY KAY MUTABIQ DEOBANDI WAHABI KAY PEECHAY NAMAZ NAHI HOTI TO KIYA HUM JO HAJ KAY WAQT WAHAN KAY IMAM KA KHUTBA SUNTAY HAIN TO HAMAR HAJ KAISAY HO SAKTA HAI

 

 

Hajj ka kohi esa arqaan nahin joh Kissi Deobandi Wahabi Shia kay peechay ada keeya jahay, Hajj ka khutba aur chand aur arqaan hen, aur kohi esa arqaan nahin joh kissi imam, kay peechay ada keeya jahay, is leyeh hajj ho jata heh, han agir Deobandi kay peechay namaz peren haram sharaeef meh toh woh namaz wajib ul ada hogi yehni phir perna peray gee.

[Abbas Qadri]

Hajj ka kohi esa arqaan nahin joh Kissi Deobandi Wahabi Shia kay peechay ada keeya jahay, Hajj ka khutba aur chand aur arqaan hen, aur kohi esa arqaan nahin joh kissi imam, kay peechay ada keeya jahay, is leyeh hajj ho jata heh, han agir Deobandi kay peechay namaz peren haram sharaeef meh toh woh namaz wajib ul ada hogi yehni phir perna peray gee.

 

 

ISLAMICACADEMY.ORG MAIN AIK FATAWA MOJOOD HAI KAY WABION DOOBANDION KAY BARAY MAIN YE JANTAY HOI KAY INHOON NAY HAZOOR KI TOHEEN KI HAI UN KAY PEECHAY NAMAZ PARHNA IN SAY MAIL JOOL RAKHNA AUR IN KI SHADI MAIN SHAREEK HONA KUFR HAI. AUR IN KO MUSALMAN NAHI SAMAJHTA AUR YEH JANTA HAI KAY YEH LOG BAD AQEEDA HAIN TO IN KAY PEECHAY NAMAZ PARHTA HAI TO SAKHT GUNNAH GAR HOGA IS KI NAMAZAIN JO IN KAY PEECHAY PARHEEN BATIL HAIN. (REF. FATAWA RAZAVIYA VOL. 6, PAGE. 77)

 

BHAI JAB IN SAY MAIL JOL NAHEEN RAKH SAKTAY TO IN KA KHUTBA KAISAY SUN SAKTAY HAIN TUB HAMARA KHUTBAI WALA FARZ KAISAY ADA HOGA. AUR CHAND ARKAAN KON SAY HAIN. PLZ BATA DAIN JO DEOBANDI KAY SATH HUM ADA KARTAY HAIN.

Edited 11 مارچ 2009 by Abbas Qadri

[Abbas Qadri]

SYED SHAH TURAB-UL-HAQ SAHIB NAY

IS MASLAY KA HAL BATA DIYA HAI

LISTEN WWW.AHLESUNNAT.ORG

MAIN YOUR QUESTIONS> HAJ/QURBANI

 

HAJ KA KHUTBA SUNNAT HAI AGAR KOI KHUTBA NA BHI SUNNAY TO TAB BHI US KA HAJ HO JAI GA. WAISAY BHI AJJ KAL WAHAN PAR NAJDI DEOBANDI KHUTBA DAITAY HAIN IS LIYE HAMARAY LIYE UN KA KAHA HUA KHUTBA SUN NA ZAROORY NAHIN.

[Ya Mohammadah]

 

 

Bad Aqeedah Imam Key Pechay Namaz Ka Hukm

 

Imam e Kabaa Ke Pechay Namaz???

[peer2009]

wah ahle ilem waloo wah. ager koyee yeh article perhe to hansne ki siwa kuch nahi ker sakta haaj ka khutba sunnet he. sunno na sunno koye farek nahi perhta yani sunnet ki toheen. is liya meri guzarish he ke apni alim kokaho ke naya fawa jare karein ke sunnet arkan ko karo ya na karo lazmi nahi.

 

dosri baat ke in se shadi kerna bhi jaiez nahi its mean my wife ne bahut bara gunnah kiya me se shadi ker ke. aru meri walida mohterma ne bhi . barlvi the na deobandiuoon se shadi jo kerli.

 

 

ab batay ajaey ke jo snunnaton ko mamolli chiez samjhta he woh gustakhe rasool howa ya hum. is ka jawab chayeh. jo ke umeed he ke nahi mille ga.

[peer2009]

jinab humare khiyal se saudi imam imam ahmed bin hamble ke foloower hien yeh wahabi tum aap logo ki ijad he. jis ko wahabi aru dosron ki pehchan na rahy us bande ki tehrerr ko yaha post ker diya.

 

dosri baat ke ibrahim ale slam per namrood . mosa aleh slam per feroon ko mabhoos kiya per un ka anjame bhi bata dettien yeh kiya nasel dar nasel unhi ki log hi ate hien kahtem kerna hota to kub ka nsito naboot ho jate.

duniya jo bhi kahe hum to bajamat namaz perhte hien imame kaba ke peeche aru imamme harem sahrif madinah ke peeche. is tehkeeq me lage rahe to sedha sedha qadiyani ban jata he insan

[Ya Mohammadah]

jinab humare khiyal se saudi imam imam ahmed bin hamble ke foloower hien yeh wahabi tum aap logo ki ijad he. jis ko wahabi aru dosron ki pehchan na rahy us bande ki tehrerr ko yaha post ker diya.

 

Wahabi hai hi itni buri gaali ki muslamaan sunty hi is se baraat ka ailaan karta hai jaisy aapny saudis ke difa me kiya ki ye hambali hain ...dawa to inka Leader bhi hambali hony ka karta tha taki aam musalmaan ko asaani se bewaqoof bayana ja saky par batin me aqeedah wahi GM wala...

 

or itni bhi bachkani baat na kiya karein Janab naqali peer sahab..saudi embassy ki offical website par khud inky abba jaan Abdul Wahab ki tareef inki zubani dekh sakty hain:-

 

http://www.saudiembassy.net/Country/History.asp

 

dosri baat ke ibrahim ale slam per namrood . mosa aleh slam per feroon ko mabhoos kiya per un ka anjame bhi bata dettien yeh kiya nasel dar nasel unhi ki log hi ate hien kahtem kerna hota to kub ka nsito naboot ho jate.

duniya jo bhi kahe hum to bajamat namaz perhte hien imame kaba ke peeche aru imamme harem sahrif madinah ke peeche. is tehkeeq me lage rahe to sedha sedha qadiyani ban jata he insan

 

anjaam bhi humhi se poochna hai aapko to insy zyada qurbat hogi i mean aapto peer hain...kese peer hain apko inky anjaam ki bhi khabar nahin...ab aapko har baat khol khol kar samjahni parhti hai jaisy bachchy ko mouth feeding karwana parhti hai na waisy hi...kisny kaha ki saudis unki nasal se hain par haan ek baat dono me common hain ki dono ambiya or owliya ke dushmano me se hain..dono zalim hukmarano me se hain jo momino par musallat kiye gaye thy...jaisy ki saudis wahan ki awam par...or kyu Janab naqli peer sahab aap ko bari jaldi machi hai zalimo ko nest nabood karwany ki..kya aap Allah ke qayam kiye huey nizam me koi dakhal andazi ka ikhteyaar rakhty hain jo uski maslihat ko uski takheer ko wahabis ke haq par hony ki daleel bana rahy hain...ke abhi tak barbaad nahin kiya to kabhi bhi barbaad nahi hongy...dousry lafzo me koi jew bhi yahi kahy, christian bhi yahi kahy, hindu bhi yahi kahy apny hakim hony par apny kabiz hony par apny haq par hony par to yahi jawab usky mu se bhi sun kar zuban band karky foran bhag khary hoiyega aap...

 

rahi baat ki apky gahr ke ulemao ke fatawy khilaaf wahabis ke peechy namaz parhny ki to showk se karein unki nafrmaani humari bala se humy kya?

 

Humara Kaam to Sirf Pohcha Dena Hai Hidayat Ka Khaliq to Allah hai....

[peer2009]

Wahabi hai hi itni buri gaali ki muslamaan sunty hi is se baraat ka ailaan karta hai jaisy aapny saudis ke difa me kiya ki ye hambali hain ...dawa to inka Leader bhi hambali hony ka karta tha taki aam musalmaan ko asaani se bewaqoof bayana ja saky par batin me aqeedah wahi GM wala...

 

or itni bhi bachkani baat na kiya karein Janab naqali peer sahab..saudi embassy ki offical website par khud inky abba jaan Abdul Wahab ki tareef inki zubani dekh sakty hain:-

 

http://www.saudiembassy.net/Country/History.asp

 

 

 

anjaam bhi humhi se poochna hai aapko to insy zyada qurbat hogi i mean aapto peer hain...kese peer hain apko inky anjaam ki bhi khabar nahin...ab aapko har baat khol khol kar samjahni parhti hai jaisy bachchy ko mouth feeding karwana parhti hai na waisy hi...kisny kaha ki saudis unki nasal se hain par haan ek baat dono me common hain ki dono ambiya or owliya ke dushmano me se hain..dono zalim hukmarano me se hain jo momino par musallat kiye gaye thy...jaisy ki saudis wahan ki awam par...or kyu Janab naqli peer sahab aap ko bari jaldi machi hai zalimo ko nest nabood karwany ki..kya aap Allah ke qayam kiye huey nizam me koi dakhal andazi ka ikhteyaar rakhty hain jo uski maslihat ko uski takheer ko wahabis ke haq par hony ki daleel bana rahy hain...ke abhi tak barbaad nahin kiya to kabhi bhi barbaad nahi hongy...dousry lafzo me koi jew bhi yahi kahy, christian bhi yahi kahy, hindu bhi yahi kahy apny hakim hony par apny kabiz hony par apny haq par hony par to yahi jawab usky mu se bhi sun kar zuban band karky foran bhag khary hoiyega aap...

 

rahi baat ki apky gahr ke ulemao ke fatawy khilaaf wahabis ke peechy namaz parhny ki to showk se karein unki nafrmaani humari bala se humy kya?

 

Humara Kaam to Sirf Pohcha Dena Hai Hidayat Ka Khaliq to Allah hai....

 

jo marzi kaho . meri nabi pak (PBUH) yahees se thy sahaba kram yahe se thy.

aur wahabi aap logo ki ijad kerda he yani ke ALLAH ka name Wahab he toba naouzbillah ALLAH ka name bigar diya . jo ALLAh ka naem bigare un ki sath to salam dua bhi jaiez nahi. kiya khety hie aap ko namae nihad ulimma .

 

baki meri bat ka pura jawab nahi milla.

arukiya kehty hien aapki ulima krame gali dena jaiz he.

[Ya Mohammadah]

jo marzi kaho . meri nabi pak (PBUH) yahees se thy sahaba kram yahe se thy.

aur wahabi aap logo ki ijad kerda he yani ke ALLAH ka name Wahab he toba naouzbillah ALLAH ka name bigar diya . jo ALLAh ka naem bigare un ki sath to salam dua bhi jaiez nahi. kiya khety hie aap ko namae nihad ulimma .

 

baki meri bat ka pura jawab nahi milla.

arukiya kehty hien aapki ulima krame gali dena jaiz he.

 

Ajeeb naqli peero se pala parha hai...uff ye Deobandis ki ilmi halat,

 

apako apny aqa (saudis) ke naam ke aagy kuch soojhta bhi hai ya nahin...saudis lootmaro ne kabza kakrky arab ko saudi arabia kehna shuru kiya warna is jazeery ka naam arab hi tha na ki Saudi...raha sawaal us jazeery se Huzur or Sahaba ke aany ka to is se kya guarantee ho gayi ki ab is jazeery se koi shaitaan nahin nikal sakta..jabki najad jahan aapka Mohammad ibn Abdul wahab paida hua us jagah ky liye to Huzur ne Dua ki darkhwast 3 dafa thukra di or farmaya ki wahan se to shaitaan ka seeng nikelga...zalzaly or fitny niklegny...jo hua bhi...kher ye alag matter hai...abhi to aap Wahabi lafz ki tareef or isky gaali hony par dalail apny ulemao se le lein..or ja kar pehly apny ullemao ke girebaan pakary ki unhony Allah ka naam wahab bigar kar wahabi lafz istemaal shuru kar diya...baqi wahabis par Deobandis/Tablighi ulemao ke fatway yahan se parh sakty hain..ummeed hain pasand aayengy..

[peer2009]

Ajeeb naqli peero se pala parha hai...uff ye Deobandis ki ilmi halat,..

jinab iek bat to batein aap log munafikat kaub choro ge eik to aap ke modeartor saybrite jo ke saudi mufti ki kitab najul balagh ke charcy ker ke batata he ke tablighi jamat ke khilaf likhe he aru ap sub wah wah ker rahein hotti hien. yeh munafikat choro jub in ko mannana he nahi to koyee baat na mano . jo aap kie matlab ki ho woh theek he bakiuoon me aap illa mashalla wala hisab he is ko kehtein hien munafiqat. me us time bhi datat tha is time bhi datta hoon. is ko kehte hien eik rangi. ya to aap sauidoon ki her baat ko neglect karein ke woh najdi hoon wahabi hoon etc... but yeh kiya ke eik taef khdu hi mulla ban ker fatwey bhi jari karo aru kame ki bat nikle to chutkale le ker suna aur wah wah mille.

 

aur han is bat ka jwaba do ke koye naozbillah ALLAh ke name ke sath mazak kare. aur sunnatoon ka mazak urahye us me aap ki kiya ray hein. jessy ke opper wali psoton me ne ziker kiya he ya in ka jawab nahi aap logon ki pass. akhir ALLAH ki pas jana he awam ko batao na.

aab aap to the poitn bat kijye mujh ko books ke hawale mat dijye.

 

aur han akhir baat ager saudi awam se itne chir he to aap ke alal hazret un se fatwa lene kiuoon gaye the .

aab kiya kiya munafktein ginwaoonme. yar.

[Ya Mohammadah]

jinab iek bat to batein aap log munafikat kaub choro ge eik to aap ke modeartor saybrite jo ke saudi mufti ki kitab najul balagh ke charcy ker ke batata he ke tablighi jamat ke khilaf likhe he aru ap sub wah wah ker rahein hotti hien. yeh munafikat choro jub in ko mannana he nahi to koyee baat na mano . jo aap kie matlab ki ho woh theek he bakiuoon me aap illa mashalla wala hisab he is ko kehtein hien munafiqat. me us time bhi datat tha is time bhi datta hoon. is ko kehte hien eik rangi. ya to aap sauidoon ki her baat ko neglect karein ke woh najdi hoon wahabi hoon etc... but yeh kiya ke eik taef khdu hi mulla ban ker fatwey bhi jari karo aru kame ki bat nikle to chutkale le ker suna aur wah wah mille.

 

Munafiqat dekhni ho kabhi apny ulemao ki kitab chan lein...InshaAllah apka showk poora ho jayega...apni last post me jo link diya hai usko itminaan se parh lein...ek Deobandi jab Makka or madinah ke sunni ulemao ke samny waqt e zaroorart jhootmoot wahabi ko gali deta hai or khud ko barelwi aqeedy ka zahir karta hai doosra phir waqt e zaroorat jab sunni makka or madinah se hat jaty hain to seena khol kar apni asliyat zahir kardeta hai haan hum wahabi hain...

 

To isky kehty hain Munafiqat...or aap jisy munafiqat keh rahy hain us se munafiqat ka koi lena dena hai hi nahin...Darasl mene kaha na u are like na samajh kid who needs spoon feeding to your mouth (TOo open your mouth... ) ...saudi arab ke wahabi ulemao ka fatwa to aapko isliye dikhaya gaya ki aap tablighi jamat ki kambyabi ke qissy bayan karty huey keh rahy thy ki dekho hum arab or ajam se sab jagah tablighi centre chala rahy hain to jawaban aapko dikhaya gaya fatwa "Alqowl Baligh" (na ki Nehjul Balagha ye to shio ki book hai) ki aapka dawa ghalat hai khud saudi arab aapki is jamat ko authorized nahin karta balki aapko biddati jehannumi or mushrik etc etc kehta hai...(kya is se ye sabit hota hai ki humary liye wo log (saudi wahabi) haq par hain ki wo bhi humari tarah apky khilaaf hain...isliye we support them?

 

agar aapki aql me ye baat ghus gayi hai ki isy munafiqat kehty hain to phir aapki dimaghi halat par humy aapsy poori hamdardi hai Allah sehatyabi de...Ameen

 

aur han is bat ka jwaba do ke koye naozbillah ALLAh ke name ke sath mazak kare. aur sunnatoon ka mazak urahye us me aap ki kiya ray hein. jessy ke opper wali psoton me ne ziker kiya he ya in ka jawab nahi aap logon ki pass. akhir ALLAH ki pas jana he awam ko batao na.

aab aap to the poitn bat kijye mujh ko books ke hawale mat dijye.

 

rah e faraar nahin...jo qissa jis topic ka ho wahin jawab mangiye beja idhar udhar ki yahan na ghasitye.

 

aap forum par kai baar duhai dete dete ye rona roty nahin thakty ki "is forum par dalail se baat nahin ki jaati bus bila saboot bat karty hain..." jabki apka dawa kitna ghalta hai ye apky dost achchi tarah se janty hain...jiski zinda misaal aapky khud ke alfaaz hain...jinka matlab or kya hota hai siwaye isky ki humary akabir ki kitabo ke hawaly mat do hum me itni himmmat or salahiyat or toufeeq hi kahan ki ghar se homework karky aayein...humsy to bus humari tarah fizul ki be sir pair ki batein kiya karein humy to yahi pasand bhi hai or humara yahi karopbaar bhi hai jo humy hi zeba deta hai....

 

aur han akhir baat ager saudi awam se itne chir he to aap ke alal hazret un se fatwa lene kiuoon gaye the .aab kiya kiya munafktein ginwaoonme. yar.

 

jo link diya tha agar usy parh lete to kuch dimagh me aati bhi, aapsy guzarish hai ki pehly ja kar uska san chk karein ki kis san se saudi lootero ne Arab par kabza kiya...jaisa ki humy pehly hi kaha ki aapko Saudi word ke aagy kuch soojhta hi nahin ki Islam lagta hai aapky liye Saudi ke siwa kuch hai hi nahin...zara Saudi ki namak halaali se aagy bhi soch liye karein to aapko pata lagy ki in najadi dakuoon se pehly sunni muqallido ki wahan sekdo salo se huqumat thi..jisy saltanat e usmaniye ke naam se jana jata tha...bartaniya ki imdaad hasil karky hi aapky daku wahabiso yani saudis ne in sunni hukmrano, Sunni ulemao, Hazaro muslamno ka qatl o gharat kiya unky maal asbaab looty phir qabiz huey or aaj bhi makka or madinah par qabiz logo ka hero or reformer yahi abdul wahab hi hai..Ala Hazrat ne jab fatwa liye aapky ulemao ke kufr par to ye saudi arab nahin bana tha sirf arab tha...or huqumat sunniyo ki thi na ki wahabis ki...history se kuch lena dena bhi hai ki nahin Naqali peer sahab..

 

or ye peer ka nick zara wahabis ke samny to rakhy they will surely call u polytheist & Biddati.

[peer2009]

Munafiqat dekhni ho kabhi apny ulemao ki kitab chan lein...InshaAllah apka showk poora ho jayega...apni last post me jo link diya hai usko itminaan se parh lein...ek Deobandi jab Makka or madinah ke sunni ulemao ke samny waqt e zaroorart jhootmoot wahabi ko gali deta hai or khud ko barelwi aqeedy ka zahir karta hai doosra phir waqt e zaroorat jab sunni makka or madinah se hat jaty hain to seena khol kar apni asliyat zahir kardeta hai haan hum wahabi hain........................

 

or ye peer ka nick zara wahabis ke samny to rakhy they will surely call u polytheist & Biddati.

 

may be aap ko gahlet fahmi howi he apa ne mera post pura perha nahi me ne kaha tha ke . aap iek taref un ki kitabon ki wkalet kerte hein aru dosri taref unhi ko bura bahla kehte hien. me is munafikat ki bat ki thi.

rahi bat balghul al qoul name book ki . jis me aap ne apni taref se tarjuma ker diya he . woh haqeekat bhi smne jaye gi.

me ne to pehly hi kaha tha ke imame kaba paksitan aye thy to molaan tariq jamil sahib ne un ke owner per khitab kiya tha aur khud woh raiwend markez ka dora bhi kerna tha . ab kiay suanoon. wohi kahbar me aya tha jsi me apa lgoo ne chudery shujat ke walida me tariq jamil shib ki shirket ka likha tha.

 

bina dallel me bat nahi ker raha sub topic yaheen mojood hein. me ne kitab ka hawal de ker kaha mager apa lgoon ko kuch asser nahi hona.

[Ya Mohammadah]

 

Humara Kaam to Sirf Pohcha Dena Hai Hidayat Ka Khaliq to Allah hai....