Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 29 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جون 2009 Wahhabion say koi jawab nahi ban para tu idher udhar ke batain karna start kar dee hain apni aadat k mutabiq.Koi aisi bat batao jo Saeedi Bhai nain apnay pas say ke hay?????? Sirf jawab do is bat ka????Hum nain aap wahhabion say itnay questions kia hain abhi tak aik question ka b jawab nahi aaya,,kisi aik ka b nahi....... MEIN NE PURI POST SAEEDI SAHAB KI PARH LI ..WALLAH IS MEIN KOI DALEEL AUR WAZAN NAHI HAY..SIRF ALFAZON KA HAIR PHAIR HAY..WAZEH NAS E HADEES KO ZAEEF AQWAAL KE ZARYE CHUPA NE KI KOSHISH KI GAI HAY.. MERE KHIYAL SE SIRF INTIZAR IS BAAT KA HAY KAB BRALVION KI TARAF SE ELAAN HOTA HAY KAY RASOOL ALLAH ALLAH KE BETE HEIN..MA'AZ ALLAH..CHORA KUCH BHI NAHI HAY..SAB QUALITY UN MEIN ALLAH KI DAAL DI GAI HEIN..SIRF ELAAN KARNA BAQI HAY..I THINK KUCH LOGON KE DIL MEIN YE BAAT PAIDA BHI HO CHUKI HOGI.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salar Raza مراسلہ: 29 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 29 جون 2009 Wahhabion say koi jawab nahi ban para tu idher udhar ke batain karna start kar dee hain apni aadat k mutabiq.Koi aisi bat batao jo Saeedi Bhai nain apnay pas say ke hay?????? Sirf jawab do is bat ka????Hum nain aap wahhabion say itnay questions kia hain abhi tak aik question ka b jawab nahi aaya,,kisi aik ka b nahi....... Arey bhai kyon tung kerte ho WAHHABIYON KHARJIYON ko .. aap ko nahi maloom woh yahan WAHABI POCKET BOOK le ker ate hein , us mein jo molvi saab ne likha hota hai us ko bayan ker dete hein .. likin jab in se ilmi guftugu ki jaye tu phir ayen bhayen shayen . ab aap dekh lo is becharay ki post . ilmi andaz mein tu jawab de nahi saka tu wohi MUSHRIK wali ratt shoro ker di inka bas chale tu Rasool ALLAH ka Naam hi deen islam se nikal dain .. inko alergy hai mere AQA ki shaan se .. buss sab SUNNI Piyare o Sohne AQA ki shaan bayan kerte ho aor wahabiyon najdiyoon kharjiyon ko jalate raho jal jal ker inki shaklen b munhoos ho gayi hain .. Qadri bhai in k chehrey ko kabhi ghoor se dekhna , phitkar k siwa kuch nahi hota .. aor SUNNI ka chehra Subhan ALAH Noorun ala Noor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Arey bhai kyon tung kerte ho WAHHABIYON KHARJIYON ko .. aap ko nahi maloom woh yahan WAHABI POCKET BOOK le ker ate hein , us mein jo molvi saab ne likha hota hai us ko bayan ker dete hein .. likin jab in se ilmi guftugu ki jaye tu phir ayen bhayen shayen . ab aap dekh lo is becharay ki post . ilmi andaz mein tu jawab de nahi saka tu wohi MUSHRIK wali ratt shoro ker di inka bas chale tu Rasool ALLAH ka Naam hi deen islam se nikal dain .. inko alergy hai mere AQA ki shaan se .. buss sab SUNNI Piyare o Sohne AQA ki shaan bayan kerte ho aor wahabiyon najdiyoon kharjiyon ko jalate raho jal jal ker inki shaklen b munhoos ho gayi hain .. Qadri bhai in k chehrey ko kabhi ghoor se dekhna , phitkar k siwa kuch nahi hota .. aor SUNNI ka chehra Subhan ALAH Noorun ala Noor Aap logonke ilm ki guftugu ka maayaar kia hay...asqalani..abdul haq muhaddis..falan sufi mufassir falan sufi muhaddsi..saare wo log jinki baat maan na humare opar kisi bhi tarah farz nahi hay..joke kisi bhi tarah mutabir nahi samjhe ja sakte..hum inke muhtaaj nahi hein..Asal ilm quaran hay hadees hay..RAsool Allah qayamat mein bolengay na ...meri ummat ne quran chor rakha tha..Quran ko choro sufion ko pakro..ke hum in sufion ki tashree ko jokee wazeh tor par quran o hadees ke khiulaaf ja rahi ho unko apna kar apna aqeeda kaharb karein..astaghfurullah...mere Rasool .....Muhammad hein ..mein in par emaan laya hoon...un sofion par nahi..jinko ataat mujh par wajib hi nahi.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Kya bat hay Wahhabia ke!!!!!! Jab hum nain Muhaddaseen e Karam k batain paish keen tu Wahhabia ko aag lag gay kyon keh yeh sab batain in k aqeeday k against hain. Aur jab apni bari aay tu kehtay hain keh fulan Muhaddas nain HIDAYAT KA NOOR KAHA.Wahan tumhain kya ho jata hay Muhadasseen e Karam ke batain paish kartay huay.Kuch sharam karo. Apni posts daikho zara aik bat ka jawab nahi dia jahilo tum nain. Aur plz next post main topic say related bat karna.Yahan debate ho rahy hay na keh hum aap ke jahilana batain sun rahay hain...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Kya bat hay Wahhabia ke!!!!!! Jab hum nain Muhaddaseen e Karam k batain paish keen tu Wahhabia ko aag lag gay kyon keh yeh sab batain in k aqeeday k against hain. Aur jab apni bari aay tu kehtay hain keh fulan Muhaddas nain HIDAYAT KA NOOR KAHA.Wahan tumhain kya ho jata hay Muhadasseen e Karam ke batain paish kartay huay.Kuch sharam karo. Apni posts daikho zara aik bat ka jawab nahi dia jahilo tum nain. Aur plz next post main topic say related bat karna.Yahan debate ho rahy hay na keh hum aap ke jahilana batain sun rahay hain...... ye to mera dil jaanta hay mein tum logonki jahilana batein kaysay bardasht karta hoon...gharib aadmi hoon warna roz apna monitor tor hi deta sir maar kar.. muaddis ki baat baad mein karna.. tum logon ke aqaid ki kaat ke liye sirf ayaat hi kafi hay muhaddis ki zaroorat nahi parti..tashree aur muhaddis ki zaroorat wahan parti hay jahan baat samjh na aey..tumharay maslak ke khilaaf to quran mein har baat clear hay kisi mufassir aur muhaddis ki zaroorat hi nahi hay.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizwan Q مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 bhai ye debate to smaj hi nahi aa rahi hai kay kia hoo raha hai.....bohot mushkil urdu likhi jaa rahi hai...sab se pehle Quran kay dalail ki kaat honi chaiye ek dosre ki...phir Hadeath per ana chahiye..takay confirmed ho kay kon sahi hai....yahan to ajeeb hi khichri ban rahi hai.... PEhle Quran se baat Wazeh ki jae kay HuZoor S.A.A.W Noor thay ya bashar....jab Quran se baat complete ho jae gi to phir Hadeath per baat ki jaee??? warna to ye faisla karna mushkil hai kay debate kaha jaa rahi hai??? plz bhaiooon is per kuch goor karooo....abhi is debate ko read kar kay muje abhi ye nahi pata chal saka kay jismani toor per Huzoor S.A.A.W. Noor thay ya bhar...jab ye baat hi nahi pata hume to is debate ka faida kia hai??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 bhai ye debate to smaj hi nahi aa rahi hai kay kia hoo raha hai.....bohot mushkil urdu likhi jaa rahi hai...sab se pehle Quran kay dalail ki kaat honi chaiye ek dosre ki...phir Hadeath per ana chahiye..takay confirmed ho kay kon sahi hai....yahan to ajeeb hi khichri ban rahi hai.... PEhle Quran se baat Wazeh ki jae kay HuZoor S.A.A.W Noor thay ya bashar....jab Quran se baat complete ho jae gi to phir Hadeath per baat ki jaee??? warna to ye faisla karna mushkil hai kay debate kaha jaa rahi hai??? plz bhaiooon is per kuch goor karooo....abhi is debate ko read kar kay muje abhi ye nahi pata chal saka kay jismani toor per Huzoor S.A.A.W. Noor thay ya bhar...jab ye baat hi nahi pata hume to is debate ka faida kia hai??? Bhai sahab kitchri pakane ke master to ye hamare bralvi bhai hein..Ye Quran ki ayaat is liye pesh nahi kar sakte ke ..Quran mein koi kajji Allah ne nahi rakhi..Quran 2 tok alfaz mein baat karta hay..aur inke aqeeday CHALLANGE ke sath ke aik bhi aqeeda quran se match nahi karta..haan agar inke pass kuch hay to sirf soofion ki tashree.....bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Afsos hay tumhari aqlon par.Bayshak Quran e Majeed main sab kuch hay laikan phir tafseer ke kya zaroorat paish aay?? Quran main har cheez ka zikar mojood hay laikan us ko jan nay k lia insight ke zaroorat hay janab........ Agar tafseer ka kaam ghalat hota tu Sahaba e Karam yeh kaam kyon kartay????Hum nain Sufia ke tashreeh tu byan he nahi ke,hum nain tu mufassareen e karam ka,Sahaba e Karam ka aqeeda paish kia.Tum nain un sab say inkar kia,,,Hadees Sharif k gustakhi ke(Sharam karo kuch tu,Apnay aap ko Ahl e Hadees kehlatay ho). Kya Quran ko Sahaba e Karam say zyada Quran e Pak ko tum nain samja.Kabhi kisi Sahabi nain kya Huzoor Nabi e Kareem ko apnay jaisa bashar kaha????????Aik b proof do??????? Challange ke rat lagay hui hay tum logon nain.Simple baton ka jawab day nahi saktay aur bat kartay ho challange ke.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Janab Rizwan Qadri Sb.Hum nain Quran say start kia.Quran he say jawab dia.Hum nain phir tafseer e mubarak say sabat kia keh Huzoor Nabi e Kareem nain apnay aap ko hum JAISA bashar kyon kaha.(Na keh full bashar kaha,tashbeeh de).Phir hum nain Ahadees Sharif paish keen,Sahaba ke aqaid paish kia(aap zara ghor say daikhain janab).Mufassareen e Karam k qaol paish kia,questions k wuestions kia,but no answer.Ab aap batain hum is ka kya karain jab agla fareeq koi bat he na manain. Aap say araz hay keh aap Hazrat e Allama Abdul Hakeem Sharf Qadri Sb.Rehat Ullah e Alaih ke book Paikar e Noor study karain.Is k alawa Janab Muhammad Najam Mustafai Sb ke book HAQ KE TALASH study karain.Aap par sab kuch wazeh ho jay ga Insha Allah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Afsos hay tumhari aqlon par.Bayshak Quran e Majeed main sab kuch hay laikan phir tafseer ke kya zaroorat paish aay?? Quran main har cheez ka zikar mojood hay laikan us ko jan nay k lia insight ke zaroorat hay janab........ Agar tafseer ka kaam ghalat hota tu Sahaba e Karam yeh kaam kyon kartay????Hum nain Sufia ke tashreeh tu byan he nahi ke,hum nain tu mufassareen e karam ka,Sahaba e Karam ka aqeeda paish kia.Tum nain un sab say inkar kia,,,Hadees Sharif k gustakhi ke(Sharam karo kuch tu,Apnay aap ko Ahl e Hadees kehlatay ho). Kya Quran ko Sahaba e Karam say zyada Quran e Pak ko tum nain samja.Kabhi kisi Sahabi nain kya Huzoor Nabi e Kareem ko apnay jaisa bashar kaha????????Aik b proof do??????? Challange ke rat lagay hui hay tum logon nain.Simple baton ka jawab day nahi saktay aur bat kartay ho challange ke.... (1) Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet prayed (and the subnarrator Ibrahim said, "I do not know whether he prayed more or less than usual"), and when he had finished the prayers he was asked, "O Allah's Apostle! Has there been any change in the prayers?" He said, "What is it?' The people said, "You have prayed so much and so much." So the Prophet bent his legs, faced the Qibla and performed two prostrations (of Sahu) and finished his prayers with Tasiim (by turning his face to right and left saying: 'As-Salamu'Alaikum-Warahmat-ullah'). When he turned his face to us he said, "If there had been anything changed in the prayer, surely I would have informed you but I am a human being like you and liable to forget like you. So if I forget remind me and if anyone of you is doubtful about his prayer, he should follow what he thinks to be correct and complete his prayer accordingly and finish it and do two prostrations (of Sahu)." (Book #8, Hadith #394) Sahih Bukhari Tum Sahaba ki baat karte ho..Tum ko Rasool Allah ki zubani suna dete hein..Magar tum maanne wale to bano..Ab jaldi se Saeedi Bhai se contact karo ke soofia ke aqwaal ke zarye is hadees ko tor maroor kar dein... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 O janab aap ke kya bat hay.Phir woh he bat paish kar de.LIKE U.....Is main kaha haykeh main bashar hon.Is main b example de gay hay.Aap sirf aik bat bata dain keh kya example dainay say woh bat reality main change ho jaty hay.Ab main is k jawab main woh Hadees Sharif paish karta hon jis main Huzoor e Nabi e Kareem Sal Allah o Alaih e Waalehee Wasalam nain farmaya tha keh AYYUKUM MISLI......Kya tum main say koi meri misal hay?????????? Ab aap is ka kya jawab dain gay. Aur janab Saeedi Bhai say mera koi rabta nahi aap ke itlaa k lia araz hay.Na main Pak main hon abhi. Koi aisi Hadees Sharif paish kar dain jis main yeh ho ke main aadami hon(Bashar hon)???? Bas aap say yeh he araz hay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) Janab Rizwan Qadri Sb.Hum nain Quran say start kia.Quran he say jawab dia.Hum nain phir tafseer e mubarak say sabat kia keh Huzoor Nabi e Kareem nain apnay aap ko hum JAISA bashar kyon kaha.(Na keh full bashar kaha,tashbeeh de).Phir hum nain Ahadees Sharif paish keen,Sahaba ke aqaid paish kia(aap zara ghor say daikhain janab).Mufassareen e Karam k qaol paish kia,questions k wuestions kia,but no answer.Ab aap batain hum is ka kya karain jab agla fareeq koi bat he na manain. Aap say araz hay keh aap Hazrat e Allama Abdul Hakeem Sharf Qadri Sb.Rehat Ullah e Alaih ke book Paikar e Noor study karain.Is k alawa Janab Muhammad Najam Mustafai Sb ke book HAQ KE TALASH study karain.Aap par sab kuch wazeh ho jay ga Insha Allah. Bhai Sahab kion logonko bewaqoof bana rahay ho...Aaap jo baat kar rahay ho full bashar wali ..mujhe to aap ki is logic par hansi aarahi hay..(Agar Rasool Allah ka matlab full bashar nahi tha uar sirf tashbih di) to mere bhai Rasool ne khud kion ye baat nahi farmai ke mein full bashar nahi hoon..mein sirf tashbeeh ke tor par aesa keh raha hoon..???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? kion apni ummat ko aadhi poni baat batate thay wo..kia isi liye ke ye ummat asal baat jannne ke liye bralvi maulvi ki muhtaaj ban jaey..Afsos tum logon ne to gustakhi ki intaha kardi..ke mere Rasool ki baat ko namukammal kehtay ho..ke Rasool Allah apni ummat ko zoo mani batein batatay thay..khul kar koi baat nahi bata te thay..astaghfurullah....Allah Ta'ala farmate hein ke mein ne is quran mein har baat khol khol kar bayan ki hay..magar bralvi ulema kehtay hein...ASAL MA'ANI CHUPA HOTA HAY.... Edited 30 جون 2009 by Ya Allah Madad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizwan Q مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 janab baat ya hai kay is debate kay shuru me Quran kay mutabiq baat ki gae...is me agar me apni thinking kay mutabiq failsa karoon to wo kuch is taran banta hai... Quran me Bashar kaha gaya Huzoor S.A.A.W. ko bohot jaga..likin kuch jaga Noor ka bhi zikar hai likin Noor kay zikar me Huzoor S.A.A.W ka name mojod nahi hai balkay mufassireen ne Noor se murad Islam, Huzoor S.A.A.W, Quran, Hidayat hai... ab result jo nikalta hai wo zada tar Bashar kay haq me jaa raha hai..mere jo apna openion hai. os kay mutabiq..... ab baqi bhai muje Headth per bhi dekhna hai likin yahan itni khichri ban gae hai kay Headth ka dekhna mushkil parr raha hai.kioon kay dono taraf se 1 khichri ci ban rahi hai koi baat wazeh nahi hai..plz isko bhi clear kareen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Wah g wah kya bat hay aap ke janab.Hum nain bashar honay ka inkar kab kia hay?????? Hum tu kehtay hain aisay bashar keh jis ke misal na ho.Laikan aap hain keh Nabi ko apnay jaisa bashar kehnay main b sharam nahi aaty.Kuch tu Allah say daro. Aur rahy bat logic ke tu janab mujay intihay afsos ho raha hay aap k basic knowledge par keh aap example ko reality say relate kar rahay hain.Had ho gay hay janab had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Janab Rizwan Sb.aap nain b kya faisla farmaya hay keh naam nahi lia gya Aap ka tu is say yeh zahir ho gya keh kya mera Nabi Noor he nahi. Aur meray bhai Quran ko samjanay k lia Ahadees Sharif aur Tafseer k b zaroorat hoty hay.Is lia zara thora sa ghor karain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Wah g wah kya bat hay aap ke janab.Hum nain bashar honay ka inkar kab kia hay??????Hum tu kehtay hain aisay bashar keh jis ke misal na ho.Laikan aap hain keh Nabi ko apnay jaisa bashar kehnay main b sharam nahi aaty.Kuch tu Allah say daro. Aur rahy bat logic ke tu janab mujay intihay afsos ho raha hay aap k basic knowledge par keh aap example ko reality say relate kar rahay hain.Had ho gay hay janab had Mein ne koi baat apni taraf se thori ki hay jo aaap mujhko besharam keh rahay ho....Mein nay to Allah aur uske Rasool ka farmaan bataya hay..ab faisla qaareen karlein ke ye kisko besharam keh rahay hein..(MISLUKUM) to Allah ke alfaaz hein mere nahin..Quran ke alfaz aap jaisay jahil logon ke kehnay se thori badal jaega..aur Uske Rasool ke alfaaz hein mere nahin...ab tum Rasool Allah se khud hi pooch lena roz e qayamat (AGAR UNHON NE TUM LOGON SE QAYAMAT MEIN BAAT KARLI) ke aap ne hadees mein kion doosre logon ki tarah bashar bola apne aapko..zara wazahat kar dete ke full bashar nahi hoon..aur aap ne bhi (MISLUKUM )bola Aur Allah se bhi pooch lena ke kion Quran mein bashar bola wo bhi (MISLUKUM) ...... Quran ka kufur aesay hi hota hay janab ke MISLUKUM ka kufur jaysay tum logon ne kia hay.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizwan Q مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) Janab Rizwan Sb.aap nain b kya faisla farmaya hay keh naam nahi lia gya Aap ka tu is say yeh zahir ho gya keh kya mera Nabi Noor he nahi. Aur meray bhai Quran ko samjanay k lia Ahadees Sharif aur Tafseer k b zaroorat hoty hay.Is lia zara thora sa ghor karain. qadri bhai shukar hai apne reply kia Qadri bhai Tafseer me to Noor se murad Huzoor S.A.A.W. bhi hai Hidayat bhi hai Islam bhi hai or Quran bhi hai....yaar qadri bhai ap khud bataeen me kia karoon..me yahan kab se 1 sawal karr raha hoon kay jismani Toar per Huzoor S.A.A.W Noor thay ya Bashar likin koi bata hi nahi raha....or mene 1 sawal or bhi pocha hai kay jistaran ham log kehte hain kay Nabi S.A.A.W bashriat ka libada pehen kar dunya me ae...to hume ye kistran pata chala ..kia koi Quran ki Ayat ya headth hai esi?? janab jab mera zehen hi clear nahi hoo raha hai to me kia karoo? Edited 30 جون 2009 by Rizwan Qadri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salar Raza مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Breaking News: main ne suna hai kafi deo k banday Burqay pehan ker ghoom rahe hein ( yani sunni ban ker forums per aa rahe hain) .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Janab Salar Raza Bhai lag mujay b kuch aisa he raha hay. Ab Wahhabio tyar ho jao,tumhain challange karnay ka buhat shoq hay na.Tum har bar yeh he sabat karnay ke koshish kar rahy ho keh Meray Nabi e Pak Noor nahi hain.Ab yeh faqeer tumhain kehta hay keh koi aisi ayat paish karo,Koi Hadees paish karo,kisi Sahabi ka qaol paish karo,kisi Imam ka qaol paish karo jis main yeh kaha gya ho keh MERAy NABI NOOR NAHI.....Tum tu har bar bashar sabat karnay ke try main ho. O jahil hum nain bashariat ka inkar kab kia???Humary nazdeek jo Huzoor ke bashriat ka mutliqan inkar karay woh tu hay he kafir. Hum tu kehtay hain keh bay misal bashar aur noor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 30 جون 2009 O sun o jahil wahhabi.Abhi tu buhat sa qaraz hay humara tum logon par,tum log Ahadees Sharif ke gustakhi karo(Your real name should be Anti Ahadees).Ab daikho meray Mustafa ka farman e kareem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 1 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 1 جولائی 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) O sun o jahil wahhabi.Abhi tu buhat sa qaraz hay humara tum logon par,tum log Ahadees Sharif ke gustakhi karo(Your real name should be Anti Ahadees).Ab daikho meray Mustafa ka farman e kareem. ZIYADA UCHALNE KI AUR BARKE MAARNE KI ZAROORAT NAHI HAY..TUM LOG TASVEER KA AIK HI RUKH DEKHTE HO..AUR USI PAR FAISLA KAR LETE HO..TUM IS HADEES SE INKAAR KARTE HO?????? (1) Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet prayed (and the subnarrator Ibrahim said, "I do not know whether he prayed more or less than usual"), and when he had finished the prayers he was asked, "O Allah's Apostle! Has there been any change in the prayers?" He said, "What is it?' The people said, "You have prayed so much and so much." So the Prophet bent his legs, faced the Qibla and performed two prostrations (of Sahu) and finished his prayers with Tasiim (by turning his face to right and left saying: 'As-Salamu'Alaikum-Warahmat-ullah'). When he turned his face to us he said, "If there had been anything changed in the prayer, surely I would have informed you but I am a HUMAN BEING like you and liable to forget like you. So if I forget remind me and if anyone of you is doubtful about his prayer, he should follow what he thinks to be correct and complete his prayer accordingly and finish it and do two prostrations (of Sahu)." (Book #8, Hadith #394) IS PAR TABSARA KION NAHI KARTE BHAI SAHAB..AIK TARAF TO RASOOL YE KAHIN KE MERI TARAH KON HAY AUR DOORI TARAF YE KEH RAHAY HEIN KAY MEIN TUMHARI MISIL INSAAN HOON. TO ISKA JAWAB YE HAY KAY TUM SAUM WISAAL NA RAKHA KARO KIONKE TUM MEIN WO TAQAT NAHI HAY JO MUJH MEIN HAY..ZAHIR HAY ANIBIYA KI ROHANI TAQAT BOHOT ZIYADA HOTI HAY..HUM IS DUNYA MEIN BHI DEKHTE HEIN JO BOHOT ALLAH WALAY HOTE HEIN WO PURI PURI RAAT TAHJJUD PARHATAY HEIN..AIK ZAMANE MEIN MEIN SUNA KARTA THA JAB MEIN KHUD DAWAT E ISLAMI MEIN HOTA THA 1989 MEIN KAY HAZRAT JI ROZ ROZA SAY HOTE HEIN TO MEIN BARA HAIRAAN HOTA THA..MEIN IS SAY INKAAR NAHI KAR RAHA HOON.AB KIA ILYAS SAHAB AUR DOOSRE WO LOG JO IS DUNYA MEIN AESAY AESAY MUJAHIDE KARTAY HEIN ..KAY AQAL DANG REH JATI HAY AESAY AUR AAMAAL KARNE KA KOI AAM BASHAR SOCH BHI NAHI SAKTA..TO KIA WO DOORON KI TARAH BASHAR NAHI HEIN...???????????? AGAR AAP HINDU SAADHU KE MUJAHIDE AUR BOHOT SARE MAZAHIB DUNYA MEIN AESAY HEIN..JINKAY MUJAHIDE KARNE KA KOI SOCH BHI NAHI SAKTA ...KIA WO DOOSRON KI TARAH BASHAR NAHI HEIN ...KIA UN AAMAL KI BUNYAAD PAR WO NOORNI MAKHLOOQ BAN JAINGAY.. ALLAH TUM LOGON KO AQAL DAY..TUM WO LOG HO JO APNE NABI PAR ILZAM LAGA RAHAY HO KE PURI BAAT UMMAT KO BATA KAR NAHI GAEY..AIK JAGAH KAHA KAY TUM JAYSA BASHAR HOON AUR DOOSRI TARAF KAHA KAY MERAY JAISA KON HAY..RASOOL KA FARMAAN HAQ HAY..SIRF SAMJHNE WALA DIMAGH CHAHIYE.. Edited 1 جولائی 2009 by Ya Allah Madad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 1 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 1 جولائی 2009 Janab Ya Allah madad Sb.aap nain ab tak jo kuch b post kia hay us main aap nain sirf yeh sabat karnay ke try ke hay keh Huzoor Nabi e Kareem bashar thay.Meray bhai hum nain bashriat ka inkar kab kia??????????? Tum mujay yeh sabat kar k do na keh Aap noor nahi thay???????? Koi Ayat e Mubaraka,Koi Hadees jis main ho keh Nabi e Kareem noor nahi thay????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 1 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 1 جولائی 2009 Naozo Billah min Zalik.Hum nain kabhi kisi Hadees Sharif ka inkar nahi kia tumhari tarah.Apnay aap ko Ahle Hadees kehtay huay tum logon ko sharam pata nahi kyon nahi aaty.Kabhi Hadees Sharif main TAZAD talash kartay ho aur kabhi kehtay ho NAOZO BILLAH HADEES SHARIF SAY KEERAY NIKAL RAHAY HO. Janab aap nain phir woh he bat kar de,hum nain bashriat ka inkar kab kia.Aur is faqeer nain AlhamdoLillah AHADEES SHARIf say yeh b sabit kia keh Meray Nabi e Kareem Sal Allah o Alaih e Waalehee Wasalam bay misal bashar hain.Tum ho keh bashar bashar ke rat lagay hui hay,jis ka hum nain inkar he nahi kia......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Allah Madad مراسلہ: 2 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 2 جولائی 2009 Naozo Billah min Zalik.Hum nain kabhi kisi Hadees Sharif ka inkar nahi kia tumhari tarah.Apnay aap ko Ahle Hadees kehtay huay tum logon ko sharam pata nahi kyon nahi aaty.Kabhi Hadees Sharif main TAZAD talash kartay ho aur kabhi kehtay ho NAOZO BILLAH HADEES SHARIF SAY KEERAY NIKAL RAHAY HO. Janab aap nain phir woh he bat kar de,hum nain bashriat ka inkar kab kia.Aur is faqeer nain AlhamdoLillah AHADEES SHARIf say yeh b sabit kia keh Meray Nabi e Kareem Sal Allah o Alaih e Waalehee Wasalam bay misal bashar hain.Tum ho keh bashar bashar ke rat lagay hui hay,jis ka hum nain inkar he nahi kia......... Meray jahil dost lagta hay tum log kisi ki post parhatay nahi bas apna hi gana gate jaytay ho..mein ne jo opar post ki hay one by one uska jawab do..yahan wahan ki na haanko.... Essa ko jab logon ne khuda ka beta banaya tha to jo tauheedi log thay unho ne is baat ki bohot mukhaalfat ki..bilkul isi tarah jis tarah ahle haq tum logon ko samjhate hein ke itna na barhao jitna wo hein nahi..magar ahle haq ko gustaakh Rasool aur badmazhab aur Rasool ka dushman kaha giya..Essa ko barha barha kar Khuda ka beta bana diya..Tum logon ne chora hi kia hay..mujhe sirf ye batado ke Allah ki kon si sifat hay jo Rasool Allah mein tum logon ne nahi dali..Jo aulia Allah mein nahi daali..Exact bete ki tarah to bana diya..Jis tarah aik bete mein baap ki quality hoti hay wo to tum log daal chuke ho..MA'AZALLAH aaj agar Allah ka koi beta hota..to makhlooq mein kon sab se ziyada uskay mushabe hay..Puri copy to bana diya..Balkay tum logon ne to barha charha photo state nikal di..Farq sirf wohi hay..Allah ki sari sifat MALIK ki haysyat say hay aur Rasool Allah ki ataai..Allah ka ye baat keh kar kia faida ke uska koi beta nahi...kia maqsad tha ye baat karne ka Allah ko..kion is baat par itna zor ke uska koi beta nahi hay..kabhi socha he is baat ko.. SIRF TAUHEED KE LIYE ALLAH NE YE BAAT BOLI..KAY MEIN HAR SIFAT MEIN YAKTA AUR AKELA HOON..KOI MERAY JAYSA NAHI..MAGAR TUMNAY TO UNKE JAYSA BANA ..TUM CHAHAY LAAKH WAWELA KARO MAGAR YE HAQIQAT HAY.. Aur Quran ka faisla ye hay jiske tum INKAARI ho وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلاَّ رَسُولٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلِهِ ٱلرُّسُلُ saaf tor par bataya ja raha hay ke tum log ziyada barhana charhana nahi..kionke ye Rasool bikul wasay hi hein jaysay is say pehlay aur Rasool guzar chuke hein.. Quran par emaan ho to ye samjh aeyna..Allah Ta'ala to farmate ke ..Meri misl koi nahi..magar tumne to pura ka pura photo copy bana diya..Yani tum logon ne Allah Ta'ala ki wo sifaat jinko Allah bare fakhar ke sath bayaan karte hein..ke mein sami ul aleem..aalim ul ghaib..kainaat ka koi zarra Allah se poshida nahi..uska puri kainaat par control hay..wo agla bhi jaanta hay aur pichla bhi..wo dilo ke bhaid tak se waqif ..wo aik sath sab ki sunta hay ..aur unke masle hal karta..Allah ki kia kia sifaat koi bayan karega..koi kar hi nahi sakta...magar afsos Allah ki in tamaam ayaat ki koi haysayat nahi..Ya Allah kion itne fakhar se apni barai bayan kar rahay ho..ye tamaam cheezen to teray beshumaar bando mein bhi hein..Abdul Qadir Jilani Sahab say kia chupa hoa hay ..puri kainaat unki hatheli mein raai ke dane ki tarah hay..aap apni barai kar rahay ho..aesi beshumar mislein hein.. Tum log intahai darjay ke jahil log ho sochte samjhte nahi ho bas apne akabir ki andhi taqleed mein lagay hoaey ho..chahay wo tumko khadday mein daal day aur unki har ulti seedhi baat ka difah karne beeth jatay ho..chahay quran laakh kuch bolay magar maharay akabir ki hi hum sunein gay.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qadri Sultani مراسلہ: 2 جولائی 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 2 جولائی 2009 Wahhabion nain jahaliat ke had kar de.Masla koi hal raha hay aur jwab koi aur dia ja rahay hay.Naoz o Billah hum nain Syedna Esa Alaih e Salam ko kab Allah ka baita kaha???? Agar sachay ho,kuch ghairat hay tu is bat ko sabat kar do.Aur agar aisa karnay main kamyab na huay tu Insha Allah tumhara anjaam b unhee k saath ho ga jin ka yeh aqeeda hay... Aur hum nain tu proof say bat ke buhat se siffat Allah Kareem ke aisi hain jo keh Huzoor Sal Allah o Alaih e Waalehee Wasalam main b hay.Zara Quran ke study ke hoty tu aisy bat he na karta jahal e azam. Wapis aao apnay topic par.Sabit karo na keh Huzoor Sal Allah o Alaih e Waale hee Wasalam NOOR nahi thay.Kisi aayat say kisi Hadees say....Bashar bashar ke rat. Laanat ho aisay Anti Hadees banday par.Jo na Hadees ko maanta hay,Na Sahaba k qaol ko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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