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[MOUWAHID]

Please Change sections name Wahabi ghair muqalid to AhlulHadeeth(Mutabeh Rasool SAW).Kion k Muqalid kaa ultaa ghair muqalid nahi hota.jaisay din kaa ulta raat hota hai ghair din nahi hota.Islam ka ulta kufar hota hai ghair islam nahi hota.ujaalay ka ulta ghair ujaala nahi hoti roshni hota hai. Aap muqalid banay raho hum nay kab mana kia hai laikin humain us catagary main to na ghasito.Is li apnay section kaa naam change kero.

 

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[navaid_khan]

Please Change sections name Wahabi ghair muqalid to AhlulHadeeth(Mutabeh Rasool SAW).Kion k Muqalid kaa ultaa ghair muqalid nahi hota.jaisay din kaa ulta raat hota hai ghair din nahi hota.Islam ka ulta kufar hota hai ghair islam nahi hota.ujaalay ka ulta ghair ujaala nahi hoti roshni hota hai. Aap muqalid banay raho hum nay kab mana kia hai laikin humain us catagary main to na ghasito.Is li apnay section kaa naam change kero.

 

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Wha wha wha meray doast kia zabardast grammar sikhyie hai app nay….maaza aagay janab app ke batan sun kay ALFAZ aor ZID bana nay mai lagtahai app nay PHD ke degree lay rakhi hai bohat khob,

 

Abb agar bura na mano tu mai kuch araz karon? Ya jo app nay itnay saray words ke Zid bana batayie hai jasay kay din ke zid raat, ujalay ke zid undhera and etc tu app ke nazar mai MUKALID ke zid kia hona chayiea? App tu MASHALLAH say khasay samjhdar lag rahay hain tu app apni next post mai lazmi baaatna kay MUKALID jo word hai iss ke zid bhi hoge aor wo ZID kia hoge ya app batayin gay ok ? aor 2^nd bat baat ya hai kay ya word AHLEHADEETH kis nay allot kia hai app ko? Bar-e-sagheer mai app ko koie iss word say nahi janta thaa, log app ko Najdi, Salfi, Asri, Wahabi, Ibn-e-abdul wahab najdi ke bakiyat kay nam say jantay thaay. Tu meray bhai jasay app ko ajj ghair mukalid ka word bura lag raha hai iss he terhan app kay baron ko bhi Najdi, Salfi, Asri, Wahabi kay naam say chir thi tu unho nay angraiz sarkar kay pas request send kari kay janab log hamin aasa boltay hain tu phir angraiz sarkar nay app logon ko AHLEHADEET ka naam allot kia, ya koie fakhar ke baat nahi hai. Kioun?

 

Acha jub app log ibn-e-abdul wahab najdi kay man nay walon mai say ho tu app ko ya Laqub akhir bura kis liay laga? Aor reh gayi baat word AHLEHADEET ke tu chalin faraz Karin kay maan lia hum app ko AHLEHADEETH he bolain gay magar fasala karo kon say AHLEHADEETH ho app? GHURBA AHLEHADEETH, UMRA AHLEHADEETH, SUPER AHLEHADEETH, MUSLIMIN AHLEHADEETH, ULMA-E-AHLEHADEETH, LASHKAR-E-TAYABA WALAY AHLEHADEETH, SALFI AHLEHADEETH, ASRI AHLEHADEETH ? kon say AHLEHADEETH ho app? Shaid app ko nahi maloom ho inn sub kay baray mai, magar mai app ko thora sa bata dayta hon,

 

Ya jitney bhi naam diay gay hain jamaton kay ya sub Ghair Mukalid AHLEHADEET hain, Hadis kay daway dar bhi hain aor apnay app ko AHLEHADEETH bhi kahlwatay hain, lakin phir bhi in mai shaded ikhtilafat mojod hain, jasay kay paki, napaki ka ikthilaf, haram aor halal ka ikthilaf aor bohat say ikthilafat mojod hain for example

 

 

• Jamat-ul-muslimin kay ghair mukaledin walay dosray ghair mukalid kay pechay namaz nahi partay, dosray ghair mukalid kay sath rishta natay ko haram samajhtay hain aor inn ke namaz-e-janaza ko bhi haram samjhaty hain.
  
• Ghurba AHLEHADEETH Karachi walay apnay imam ke bait ko faraz karar daytay hain aor jo ghair mukalid imam ke bait kay bagair mar jaata hai us ko moot ko jhaileat ke mom yani kafur ke moot kahtay hain.
  

Iss kay barakas dosray ghair mukalid peer, buzurg aor murshid ke bait ko bidaat kehtay hain, abb ghurba AHLEHADEETH kay nazdeek digar AHLEHADEETH kufur ke moot mar rahay hain aor dosray AHLEHADEETH kay kay nazdeek ghurba AHLEHADEETH wali jamat bidaat wali jamat ha, app say mai ya pochna chata hon kay inn dono mai say kon sahie hai? Jub kay yaad rahay dono apnay app ko AHLEHADEETH kehalwatay hain. Sahie kon howa?

 

 

• Ghurba AHLEHADEETH kay baray mai molvi mubarik nay katal ka fasla kia thaa, aor sath mai ya bhi kahha thaa kay ya jamat mulhadeen ke jamat hai, abb ya dono yani Molvi Mubarik wali party aor ya Ghurba AHLEHADEETH apnay app ko AHLEHADEETH kehalwatay hain, kon sahie hai inn dono ai say?
  
• youth force aor lashkar-e-tayiaba kay darmian jo ikthilaf hai wo ALLAH ke panah, ek dosray kay khilaf naray bazi, ek jamat ka molvi katal ho jay tu dosray kehtay hain kay wo murder hai, ek dosray kay khilaf lanat send kari jati hai, aor mazay ke baat yak ay dono bhi apnay app ko AHLEHADEETH kehlwatay hain.
  

Meray bhai examples tu aor bhi bohat se hain abb filhal app faisla kar lian kay app inn mai say kon say walay AHLEHADEETH hain, phir mai app ko batonga INSHALLAH kay ya word AHLEHADEETH hai kia aor kis kay liay zadha suitable hai. Mai app kay reply ka wait kar raha hon.

 

 

ALLAH HAFIZ.

 

 

Navaid Khan.

[MOUWAHID]

Main tumahari baat kaa jawab laazmi doon ga laikin mujhay aik baat batao.Sub say pehlay main aik baat aap ko batana chahta hoon k main nay aik din aik molvi sahib ki takreer suni jo k hari pagari waalay tha woh keh rahay thay k jo banda Imam Abu Hanifa(RA) ki takleed nahi keray gaa woh jannat main nahi jaaya gaa.Main aap say poochna chahtaa hoon k Imam Abu Hanif k Waalid sahib kis ki takleed kertay thay yaa un say pehlay jo log thay woh kis ki takleed kertay thay?

 

Mujhay sirf is baat kaa jawab day dain phir main aap ko bataon gaa k humain AhlulHadeeth kaa naam kis nay dia hai.

[Attari26]

اللہ ہدایت عطا فرمائے

[Salar Raza]

Main tumahari baat kaa jawab laazmi doon ga laikin mujhay aik baat batao.Sub say pehlay main aik baat aap ko batana chahta hoon k main nay aik din aik molvi sahib ki takreer suni jo k hari pagari waalay tha woh keh rahay thay k jo banda Imam Abu Hanifa(RA) ki takleed nahi keray gaa woh jannat main nahi jaaya gaa.Main aap say poochna chahtaa hoon k Imam Abu Hanif k Waalid sahib kis ki takleed kertay thay yaa un say pehlay jo log thay woh kis ki takleed kertay thay?

 

Mujhay sirf is baat kaa jawab day dain phir main aap ko bataon gaa k humain AhlulHadeeth kaa naam kis nay dia hai.

 

 

 

Jhoton per ALLAH ki Lanat .

 

misyari sahab jab aap ko naveed bhai k sawalon ne preshan ker dia , tu aap ne jhoot ka sahara le lia . agar apne dawe mein sache ho tu saboot doo . werna tum jhootay .

 

koi b hanafi yeh nahi kehta k jo Imam e Azam ki taqleed nahi kerta wo jannat mein nahi jaye ga . yeh tumhara jhoot hai aor jhoton per ALLAH ki lanat . Ameeeen

 

Hanafi,Shafi,Hanbli,Maliki Sab HAQ hain !!

 

aor ahle hadith naam Angraiz ne dia wahabiyon ko \

[Abdulsalam]

Navaid Khan.

 

Muazrat ke sath is topic per reply post kar raha hon, ke ye meri behas nahin. Namm rakh denye se kuch bhi nahin hota,

ab aap humain Ghair Muqallid kahain, ya Muttab-e-Sunnat, Wahabi kahen ya phir kuch or, koi baat nahin. kion ke mukhalif se adab-o-adaab ki umeed rakhna bewaqoofi hoti hai,

 

Ye hi baat Mouwahid sahib aap ke liye bhi hai. in se baat karian sirf aqeedah ke silsilye main warna aap ka hi time zaya hoga

 

 

Ab Aatye hain jawab ki taraf.

 

Janab Naveed Khan sahib, kia hi baat ki, or asal baat to gol ker gaye. jab muwahid sahib ye kehtye hain ke kamsekam jo nam diya hai wo sahi to kerlain, to is ke jawab main kahani likh di, jo ke yaqeenan aap ne kahin se parhi hogi gi ya phir suni hogi

is ke ilawa is ki tareekh bhi kafi purani hogi.

 

in tamam jamatoon main jin ka aap ne zikr kia aik ke ilawa tamam jamatoon ka aqeedah ki baaton main ittifaq hai.

Wo Lashkar-e-Tayebba ho, Jamatut Daawa ho, Ghuraba Ahl-e-Hadith hon, Youth Force hon ya phir Asri hon ya salfai tamam ke tamam aik hain.

Ye to aap ne "Dil ko behlanye ko Ghalib ye Khayal Acha hai" ke misdaq in main taffriqa dhoondh liya hai

zara mojooda halat maloom karain phir zara baat karain.

 

Sirf aik Jamatul-Muslemeen aik aisi Jamat hai jo ke Apne aap ke Jamat-ul-Muslemeen hi kehalwana pasand kerti hai is ke ilawa tamam Zar-e-Ablagh main bhi yahi kehalwati hai

 

han aap ko Ahl-e-Hadith ke tareekh darkar hai to scribd.com (ye koi Ahle-Hadith ya Deobandi site nahin bulke aik int. site hai jis per Barelvi, Shia, Tasawoof ke Ulama ki kitabain bhi uploaded hain) per jaa ker wahan se Tareekh Ahl-e-Hadith ko dhondh lain and download ker lain yaqeenan faida hoga

 

 

Abdul Salam

[Ya Mohammadah]

Ab Aatye hain jawab ki taraf.

 

Janab Naveed Khan sahib, kia hi baat ki, or asal baat to gol ker gaye. jab muwahid sahib ye kehtye hain ke kamsekam jo nam diya hai wo sahi to kerlain, to is ke jawab main kahani likh di, jo ke yaqeenan aap ne kahin se parhi hogi gi ya phir suni hogi

is ke ilawa is ki tareekh bhi kafi purani hogi.

 

Abdul Salam

 

ab Kahani purani ho ya nai shwahid hazir hain Ummed hai Pasand aayengy...

[MOUWAHID]

Jin peer sahib ki aap giarhwian paka ker khatay ho unoon nay apni kitab Ghuniat Talbin main kaha ha k asl ahlsunaat ahlulhadees hain.Aik aur jaga Peer Abdul Qadir Jillani(RA) likhtay hain k bidati ki aik nishani yeh b hai k woh ahlulhadees ko buray buray naam daitay hain.(Page no129).Aap nay phir mairy sawal kaa jawab nahi dia k Imam abu Hnifa(RA) k waalid sahib kis ki takleed kertay thay yaa woh kis k muqalid thay?

 

 

 

kash k mairay pass us wakat koi camera hota ya tape recorder hota k main aap ko un bidati molvi sahib ki takreer aap ko sunaata.

[Ghulam E Mustafa]

Wah MOUWAHID very funny ajj kafi days baad IM per online howa tu pehli nazar app ky topic per hee pari aur buhat hansi aai.

Ahlesunnat Ahlehadis hain aur saray Ahle hadis Ahlesunnat he rahay hain Christian apna naam Musalman rakh lay tu wo Musalman nahe ho jaiay ga aisay he misal wahaibyo ki hai apnay baap ungraiz say Naam rakhwa kay tum Ahle hadis ban baithay tu us say tumhara siah chahra sufaid nahe ho jaiay ga tumhara naam Wahabi hai Najdiyo chahay lakh hans ki chal chalo raho gay Wahabi he

[MOUWAHID]

Hansany waali kia baat hai main nay koi lateefa nahi likha. Mujhay mairay swal kaa jawab chahiya.agar nahi day saktay to b batain.seedhi seedhi baat kerain.

[Madinah_Madinah]

Hansany waali kia baat hai main nay koi lateefa nahi likha. Mujhay mairay swal kaa jawab chahiya.agar nahi day saktay to b batain.seedhi seedhi baat kerain.

 

Salamun ala manit'taba'al Huda

yahan pr ap k baseless ilzamaat k jawab dena kisi pr farz ya wajib nhe..........

dont waste the time of otherz........

 

aapko bataya hy k Hary imamy walon ka ye aqeeda nhe hy........jo k ap ny FARMAYA........doosri baat ye k aap pehly saboot to dain k ye hary imamy waly ny kaha.........aap jo marzi aay jhoot garh dain, hum apko bilawaja ki ulti seeedhi baatoon (baseless ilzamon) k jawab deny k liye nhe bethy huay..........ap pehly ilzam sabit kren phir baat kren.........ewain hi koi bnda uth k jo baat munh sy nikaly........us py yaqeen kr lain hum....??.......han agar hamary aqeedy sy match krti to hum manty b........k kisi ny kaha hoga.......

Edited 14 جنوری 2009 by madinah_madinah

[Madinah_Madinah]

kash k mairay pass us wakat koi camera hota ya tape recorder hota k main aap ko un bidati molvi sahib ki takreer aap ko sunaata.

 

g...........to apko kis ny kaha hy k ap saboot k beghair ilzaam tarashi krty phiren.........????......ap to khud biddati hain..........AHLEHADIS NAAM KA KOI FIRQA THA HAMARY AAQA k DOR ME.....????????????????????????????????????? (baqaida kisi firqy ka naam tha Ahlehadis.....???)

 

[Sybarite]

Please Change sections name Wahabi ghair muqalid to AhlulHadeeth(Mutabeh Rasool SAW).Kion k Muqalid kaa ultaa ghair muqalid nahi hota.jaisay din kaa ulta raat hota hai ghair din nahi hota.Islam ka ulta kufar hota hai ghair islam nahi hota.ujaalay ka ulta ghair ujaala nahi hoti roshni hota hai. Aap muqalid banay raho hum nay kab mana kia hai laikin humain us catagary main to na ghasito.Is li apnay section kaa naam change kero.

 

Thanks.

 

Aap ne Urdu kaha se parhi hai janab? Aap ki Urdudaani ki gawahi tu aap khud apni zaban se de chukay, Ujaalay ka ulta roshni!

 

Rahi baat section name ki tu iss ka simple sa jawab tu ye hai ke your presence here is a privilege not a right, so act accordingly. Waisay bhi jis andaaz mein aap ne kaha ke "aap muqalid banay raho hum nay kab mana kia hai laikin humain us catagary main to na ghasito" waisay bhi duroon-e-khaana aap bhi Ahle'Hadith ya jo jee chahay banay rahiye, humein kyu apni marzi ka pa'band kartay hain?

 

Aap hazrat Ahle'Hadith hain hi nahi tu kehlaye gay kyu? Apnay matlab ki ahadiths rakh lien jo pasand na aiee unhay zaeef keh kar tukhra dya. Agar aap hazrat sach mein Ahle'Hadith hotay tu phir ye naam angraiz se allot karwanay ki kya zaroorat parti? Kabhi Salafiyah ban jatay hain, kabhi Ahle'Hadith tu kabhi kuch.

 

Khair the topic itself has no grounds and will soon be removed. So save your posts if you want to.

[Abdulsalam]

ab Kahani purani ho ya nai shwahid hazir hain Ummed hai Pasand aayengy...

 

 

Janab Asif Attari sahib

Meri ghalati ke main ne ye nahin likha ke main kis kahani ke puranye hone ke barye main keh-raha hon.

kahani nam wali purani nahin hoi bulke "firqa bannye wali" (for examp, Asri, Salafi, Ghuraba, Umara, Lashkar-e-Tyeba, etc)

hoi hai jis ke barye main apni post per reply ker chuka hon

 

Well Mr. Sybarite, aap sahi keh rahe hain, is ka koi ground nahin hai lehaza delete ker dena hi behtar hai.

 

Abdul Salam

[MOUWAHID]

Theek hai main hi Ghalat sahi laikin mujhay is baat kaa to jawab do k Imam abu Hanifa(RA) k Waalid sahib kis ki takleed kia kertay thay.?

[MOUWAHID]

Jawab abi tak aaya nahi.Kia woh b ghair mukalid thay.Aur haan Sahaba karam(RA) kis ki takleed kertay thay zara is ki b waazahat ker dain.kion k hum ko b to pata chalay k hum kis raastay per jaa rahay hain.

 

 

 

Thanks.

[MOUWAHID]

Kuch to jawab do bhai....kahin woh b to ghair mukalid nahi thay?..........Aik baat main yeh b kehta chaloon yahaan k duniya kaa koi b mai kaa lal sahaba karam(RA) ko mukalid sabit nahi ker sakta.Woh mutabah thay Rasool Allah k.

[Abdur Rehman]

Kuch to jawab do bhai....kahin woh b to ghair mukalid nahi thay?..........Aik baat main yeh b kehta chaloon yahaan k duniya kaa koi b mai kaa lal sahaba karam(RA) ko mukalid sabit nahi ker sakta.Woh mutabah thay Rasool Allah k.

 

Wahabi mazhab ki bunyad he thairhi hai is leay wahabiyo ko seedhi baat kabhe samgh nahee aati

 

Nabi pak AlaihiSlat o WasSlam say barah e rast ilm e deen seekhnay walay Quran aur Shariyat samghnay walay Sahaba kiram rizwanullah Ajmaeen ko Zamana Nabuwat mai jo bhe masla darpaish hota wo Nabi pak alaihiSlam say barahe rast pooch laitay aur Nabi pak AlaihiSlam kay wisal kay baad Akabir Sahaba rizwanullah ajmaeen say dosray Sahba apni tashaffi kar lia kar laitay thay maslan Khulafa Rasheeideen , Syedina Abdullah Ibn e Abbas , Syedina Abdullah Ibn e Umar rizwanullah alaihim Ajmaeen. Muqallid wo hota hai jo khud ijtihad nahe kar sakta ijtihad kay leay zarori ilam usay hasil nahee ... hamaray jaisay musalmano ko apnay masail kay hal kay leay Ulama e Mujtahideen ka daman pakarna lazmi hai kyu kay Quran o Sunnat kay wasee Ilam ko samghna Har aik kay bas ki baat nahe .

 

Wahabi jahalat ka bayyan saboot yehi hai kay dawa tu Quran o Sunnat ka magar koi wahabi mai ka lal aisa nahe jo kisi maslay mai khud hal nikalta ho fatawa kay majmooai , yei sari fatwa ask imam service band karo warna apnay ganday mazhab pay lanat bhaijo. lakh moo chura kay sahee Taqleed tu wahabi bhe kartay hain Undhay baazo ki jo na khud parwaz kar saktay hain na kisi ko rasta dikha saktay hain.. thak har kay aaik he jawab rah jata hai ham undhi taqleed nahe kartay jo mazeed kizb , undho ki taqleed undhay he kartay hain aur jo noor walay hain wo noor walo ki isi leay Hanafi Shafai Malaki Hanbali honay ka aaizaz Ahlesunnat ko hai magar Wahabi Ghair Muqallidi honay ka tamgha najdiyo ko..

[Abdur Rehman]

 

Topic Change Section Name kay hawalay say yaha jo bahas ho chuki that is enough .

 

Regarding various other subjects that are being discussed here, there are already specific threads therefore please post in relevant topics.

 

Ab Taqleed , Aqaid ya Jis Mozu pay bhas karni ho tu Muta'allika threads mai baat karain..