Rasm Ghusl-e-Kabah, Bid'at Faroshon ky Liye Lamha-e-Fikriya

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Mahana Raza e Mustapha ko pera heh, jahil insaan pehlay perh toh kia likha heh, aakhiri hissa pero, samaj jaho gay kay maqsid kia thah likhna ka, meh sirf aakhiri ilfaaz pesh kerta hoon:

 

"Jab rasm e ghusul e kabah kay leyeh itni rasoomaat o taqalufaat jahiz hen toh phir Ahle Sunnat ma'molaat kay leyeh jawaz keyun nahin?" {Mahana Raza e Mustafa}

 

Pehlay pero likha kia heh, phir aa ker ihtiraaz kero. Us meh yeh heeh likha heh kay Kabah ko Ghusul denay kee rasm jahiz heh toh MIlaad keyun nahin, ham say toh qat'ti dalahil mangay jata hen Milaad weghera kay leyeh, toh khud kesay yeh jahiz ker leeya.

Yeh ihtiraaz nafi e ghusul kay leyeh nahin balakay is leyeh keeya gaya heh kay aap kay tareekeh pr nuqs keeya jahay. Meh nay aap kay tareekeh per aap kay asooloon say nuqs keeya aur Ahle Sunnat kay asool kay mutabiq ussay sabit keeya.

 

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Hum kis had tak ijtihad kartye hain kis had tak mantye hain ye to aap ne dekh hi liya........ tabhi aap ko is ki daleel bhi di, jis ki aap bhi maan rahye hain...... ab main kia karon ke ahissta aahista tmama baton ko aap ke log maan rahey hain (yani ke deewar main kamzoori aa gaee hai bus zara waqt ka intizara hai girnye ke liye).......

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Bilqul jhoot tum logh bilqul ijtihaad kay qahil nahin agir hotay toh Fatiha, chehlum, Geeyarween, Millaad, weghera ka kabi ko kabi Biddat nah tehratay, keyun kay haqiqat meh in sab meh Amaal e Quran o Sunnat hotay hen, yehni sab meh Quran, nawafil, ghareeboon maskeenoon ko khana deeya jata heh dua kee jaati heh ibadat kee jaati heh ... abh joh ibadat ko bee biddati kahay toh musalmaan nahin ho sakta.

 

Abh tum baqwaas ker rahay ho kay Ijthaad ko mantay ho, nahin aap nay ijtihaad ko maan ker daleel nahin deeh thee, billi ko rasta nah mila toh majbooran indirect evidences say daleelen pesh keen.

 

Ham toh pehlay bee mantay thay ham Sunni hen, jahil nahin Mahana Raza e Mustafa ka maqsid sirf yeh thah kay logoon ko pata chalay kay wahabi sirf auroon ko kehtay hen daleel kay leyeh apnay pass daleel nahin hoti, aur unoon nay sirf wohi keeya joh tum Wahabi Milaad kay subject per kertay ho, explicit daleel pesh kero milaad tab sabit hogi, unoon nay wohi tareeka apnaya aur kaha kay sabit keren esa Sahabah kay waqt meh huwa, aur aakhir meh likha kay: " Jab kabah kay leyeh itni rasoomaat ka saboot nahin milta toh phir Ahle Sunnat say har baat per Quran o Hadith kee daleel mangi jaati heh toh." {apnay ilfaaz meh}

 

Aur aakhir meh nashtr in ilfaaz meh mara:

Tum joh be kero Biddat o Ijaad rawah heh,

ham joh keren mehfil e milaad toh bura heh?

 

Maqsad kia thah puray article ka kay WAHABIYOON ko aayna dekhaya jahay kay ham ko kehtay ho kay Biddati hen, Quran Hadith say daleel pesh kero Milaad kee toh, khud Wahabiyoh tum joh kuch ker rahay ho woh be hamaray jesa hee heh, kay wazia explicit daleel nahin sirf IJTIHAADI DALAHIL SAY SABIT HOTA HEH. Pero toh sahih aakhir meh likha kia heh qaqa jee, pehlay peren toh sahih phir zubaan woh bata rahay hen, woh saaf likh rahay hen kay Kabah ka ghusul bila daleel jahiz ho gaya toh phir Ahle Sunnat kay kher amaal bila explicit daleel hoon toh biddat keyun hen?

 

Ham toh Allah kay Shair kee tazeem kernay walay hen hammeh toh ihtiraaz nahin kay ghusul denay per, magir ihtiraaz tumari gandi soch, neech soch, gatia soch, aur Khariji zurriat per heh.

 

Aaj gaya heh kuch raah pay batoon hee batoon meh,

chota chunna munna sab samaj jahay ga chand aur mulaqaatoon meh,

 

Chalo kuffr toh toota khuda khuda ker kay ... chalo Milaad jis ko cheekh cheekh ker biddat denay walay, aaj shareek honay kay leyeh tiyaar hen, chalo TUM YEH KERO, YEH JITNAY BE RULES LIKHAY HEN, IN KAY MUTABIQ, AAJ TUM MEHFIL E MILAAD MUNAQAD KERO, CHALO SIRF QURAAN HEE TALAWAT KERO, AUR PERH KER DUA KERO YA ALLAH TERA LAKH LAAKH SHUKR KAY TOOH NAY HAM KO RASOOL BEHJA, YA ALLAH IS REHMATAL LIL ALMEEN KO DUNYA MEH BEHIJNAY KA SHUKRIA ... AUR ILAAN KERO KAY TUM KO MILAAD E RASOOLALLAH KEE AAJ KUSHI HUWI, ham ihtiraaz nahin keren gay, tum chalo sirf akelay meh beth ker, ba wudu, ho ker choro jalsay jaloos ko, choro naat pernay ko, tum roza hee rakh loh, Allah kee ibadat kero aur shukr kero kay Allah nay tummeh Nabi behja ... muskara ker: wama arsalnaka illa rahmatal lil alameen hee pero RasoolAllah kee khushi meh ... TUM RASOOLALLAH KEE MILAAD KEE KUSHI MEH, BEGHER DIN MUQARAR KEEYEH, WAQT MUQARAR KEEYEH, SHARIAT KAY MUTABIQ TUM RASOOLALLAH KEE WALADAT KEE KHUSHI MANA DOH, HAMARA TUMARA IKHTILAAF KHATAM. [] TUM BATAHO APNAY BATAHI HUWI CONDITION KAY MUTABIQ TUM MEHFIL E MILAAD MUNQAD KERO GAY, CHALO MEHFIL CHORO, SIRF AKELAY MEH BEETH KER rASOOLALLAH KEE MILAAD KEE KUSHI MEH ALLAH KEE IABADAT KERO GAY, IS KA JAWAB LIKH DENA, HAN YA NAH, Tum Milaad e RasoolAllah kee mukhalfat mat kero, RasoolAllah kee waladat kee kushi kernay say logoon ko jahanum ka mustahiq nah tehraho, keyun kay sirf jis ko RasoolAllah kee Milaad {pedaish} kee kushi nah ho, aur woh is ko Biddat kehta heh, pakka laheen jahanumi hoga, iblees ka agent toh ho sakta heh musalmaan nahin, musalmaan ko kushi hogi aur jab cha'hay woh jistera chahay kushi ka izhar keray.

 

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for Example

Mehfil kisi makhsoos din na ho

Mehfil main log Rasool-e-Akram ka wohi zirk karain jesa ka Quran or Hadith main warid hoa hai

Zikr main apni taraf se ya ghair sabit shuda, ya zaeef, matrook, munkir ahadith ko na zikr kia jaye or agar kia jaye to ye zaroor bata diya jaye ke is hadith per kalam hai, jirah hai, wagera.

Mehfil main logon ke aanye ki wajah sirf or sirf Mohabbat-e-Rasool-e-Akram saw.gif ho na ke koi or wajah (exmp. Dikhawa, shuhrat,)

Mefil ke liye Chanda waghera ikhatta na kiya jaye...

Mefil main agar speaker ka istimal ho to sirf is had tak ke jo log mojood hon un tak bayan karnye walye ki awaz pohanch jaye

Speaker per Mehfil se ghanta, do ghanta, teen ghantye pehley se ziyada awaz main koi narye, naten, ya zikr na kia jaye(haqooq ul ibad ka khayal rakha jaye)

Naten ghair sharai, ghuloo se bhar poor, music se bharpoor, qawwali music se bharpoor na hon

In sab batoon ke ilawa har us cheez, amal ka khayal rkha jaye jo ke ghair sharai ho..

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Yeh aap kee conditions jahalat ka saboot hen, din muqarar kernay say ibadaat biddat nahin ho sakteen, Milaad majmooa e ibadat heh amaal e Quran o Sunnat heh, din ka fix kernay say agir biddat ho jaateen hen toh deen kia heh, 11th rabiul awal ko Milaad kee kushi meh Quran pera is jurm kee sazza kay tor per tum jahanumi ho, phir jannat baqwat geeta aur butoon kee pooja say milay gee?

 

Baqaul aap kee dosri condition zikr meh daeef hadith nah ho, aur agir ho toh phir Milaad mana jahiz nahin [ mana akhaz keeya gaya heh}, toh kia kohi namaz kay leyeh masjid meh betha ho aur kohi jhoot bolay ya ghalt weak hadithen per ker sunaha toh ham namaz chor denh? Ya agir kohi biyaan ho raha ho aur majlis meh kohi jhoot bolay toh kia abh biyaan sun'na haram ho gaya, jalsa kerna biddat ho gaya haram ho gaya shirk ho gaya, RasoolAllah kee Sunnatoon ka biyaan haram ho gaya biddat ho gaya? Moti aqal walay tera moon kala ... yeh condition baqwas heh kohi buri baat keray ya gunnah keray ya zaeef hadithen perh ker sunahay toh tum RasoolAllah kee Milaad kay khilaaf ho jaho, chahyeh toh yeh nah KAY JOH JHOOTI HADITHEEN SUNAHAY, JOH DAEEF HADITHEN SUNAHAY US KO BOLO KAY SAHIH HADITH SUNAHO ... Quran ka dars ho, maulvi jhoot bolay aur tum Quran prnay perwanay seekhnay aur seekhanay kay khilaaf ho jaho, yeh kohi aqal kee baat heh?

 

Abh agir das hub e RasoolAllah meh mehfil e milaad manatay hen, aur pachaas wesay aa jatay hen toh kia MIlaad mana'na haram ho gaya, Shirk ho gaya, Biddat ho gaya, mray nalayk un parh baee, deen topi darama nahin, Mehfil e Milaad munaqad is leyeh hoti heh kay logoon kay diloonmeh Rasoolallah kee muhabbat ko zinda keeya jahay, ab jis ko piyaas hee nahin paani kee us ko ham pani ka glass bar bar bar kay denh, pee, pee, pee, pepsi pee, cola pee, sharbat pee, rooh afza pee, shizaan kee botal pee, toh kohi tuq banti heh, baee, mehfil e milaad un logoon kay leyeh heh joh deen say door, dil meh RasoolAllah kee muhabbat nahin, un ko naat suna ker, RasoolAllah kee shaan biyaan ker kay, un kay diloon meh RasoolAllah kee muhabbat kee shama roshan kee jahay. Yeh pabandi toh jahalat heh, zera socho kay Rasoolallah kay kaha hota, sirf mominoon kay leyeh islam heh, meri mehfil meh momin hee bethen toh kia nateeja nikalta, kaffiroon ko deen kon sikhata? Kia Munafiq, Momin, Kafir, Mushrik RasoolAllah kee majlis meh nahin atay thay jab woh deen ko biyaan kertay thay ... jab atay thay toh Milaad meh agir kohi gunna gaar ajahay toh MILAAD SAAY DUSHMANI KEYUN? In wajoohaat kee bina per aap ko Milaad ko takhta e mashq bana kon see aqal mandi kee baat heh.

 

Chanda jama kerna jurm heh, esa jurm kay Milaad Biddat ho jaati heh, Milaad celebrate kerna Shirk biddat ho jata heh, aray baee hosh kay nakhan loh, chanda jamah krnay per deen meh kohi pabandi nahin, Jihaad kay leyeh chanda jammah keeya jata thah ... toh Milaad kay leyeh agir keeya jahay toh kohi harj heh. Tum darsoon kay leyeh SAUDIA KAY AMERICAN DOLLAR chanday meh loh, hamaray sunni mil ker chanda jamah keren toh tum Milaad kay dushman ban jaho, jurm beti ka ho, panda mother KO DEH DOH, wah rahay wahabiat teri be ajeeb kahani suni teri zubani.

 

Hajj kay baray meh kia khiyaal heh jab logh hajj kay leyeh jaatay hen toh wahan kee maqami awaam kay haqooq ka kitna khiyaal rakhtay hoon gay, kabi bat bee nahin kertay hoon ga ... esa hee heh nah? Baee Haqooqullah ka darja awal heh pehlay Allah kay haqooq, aur phir haququl libaad , Milaad meh joh kuch hota heh deen kee asal say sabit hen. Abh kia Hajj nah keren joh topi darama wahan per hota heh, HAJJ ko biddat, shirk kee mohar laga denh keyun kay haqooqul libaad pamal huway? Yeh deen nahin topi darama heh Wahabiat ka, aap kee ihtiraazat kee bunyaad jahalat heh. Haqooqullah ko agir pura keren aur is meh agir kisi aur kee dil azari ho, naraz ho, gussa ho, joh marzi ho ham kissi fard kee kushi kay leyeh ibadaat nahin chor saktay, meh roza rakhoon, Quran peroon, nawafil proon, meh RAsoolAllah kee shaan biyaan keroon, Quran o Hadith ka ilm bantoon weghera ... agir kissi kay beth meh dard hota heh toh ho, yeh us kay haqooq meh nahin, yeh haqooqullah hen ham Allah ko raazi keren gay Wahabi ko nahin.

 

Speaker per yon na keeya jahay, baee agir keeyajahay toh kissi musalmaan ko tilawat e Quran, naat e RasoolAllah, shaan e RasoolAllah, Tawheed kay biyaan sun'neh meh takleef nahin hogi, agir kissi ko hoti heh toh ho, Allah kee kushi ko chor ker insaan kee kushi hasil krna theek nahin.

 

Music toh heh hee haram, shairi meh kuch ghulu hota heh jaiz had taq theek heh, magir shariat kee had ko tajawaz walay kee nahin, yehni RasoolAllah ko phool kehna, chaand jesa kehna, weghera jahiz hen ...

 

Acha aap SHARIAT PER AMAL keren aur GAR SAY BAHIR NIKAL KER DEKHA DENH, baee aap yaqeen keren jistera aap kehtay hen kay agir yeh sharahit nah hoon toh Milaad jahiz nahin, is tera kee sharahit laga denh toh aap gar say bahr bee nahin nikal saktay, awal daari shareef, imamah shareef, Aa'sa mubarak, slipper, muswaak jab taq har sunnat per aap amal nah keren aur har haram bidat say nah bachen aap gar say bahir nahin jaa saktay. Istera kee condition sirf man'maani hen, qURAN O HADITH KE PABANDI NAHN.

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please barahay mahir baani aap, MAZEED JAWAB NAHIN LIKHYEH GA MEH KAAM SAY WAPIS AA KER ABHI MILAAD SHAREEF KEE ASAL SAHIH HADITH SAY SABIT KEROON GA.

 

Sabr rakhyeh ka itni der taq mahirbaani hogi.

 

Muhammed Ali Razavi

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JOh condition aap laga rahay hen woh Shariat say sabit nahin, jesay kay agir kohi shariat kay khilaaf kaam kerta heh toh woh us ka khud zummedaar heh, dosra nahin. Abh agir kohi Khana Kabbah kee Ibadat kerta heh toh is ka yeh matlab nahin kay ham Kabah Shareef ko IDOL tehra ker tor mor denh: jinna khaadiyan gajra pet'h una deh. Agir kohi HAJJ kay doraan chori kerta heh jesay kay Wahabi kertay hen logoon kay pars pesay chori ker letay hen jhoota chura leeyeh jaatay hen ... jeb qaat leeyeh jatay hen ... toh abh yeh itnay saray ghair sharaee kaam hajj kay doraan hajjiyoon kay saath hotay hen, toh kia ham hajj ko haram shirk Biddat, kuffr, ilhaad zindiqiyat, tehra ker mukhalfat per tol jahen. Shariat ka asool heh kay joh jis amal ma murtaqib heh, sazza jazza usssay hogi, agir kohi hajj kay doran haram shareef meh chori kerta heh toh phir sazza us kay leyeh heh, HAJJ kee dushmani nahin hogi, is'see tera AGIR KOHI MILAAD KEE MEHFIL MEH, AGIR KOHI GUNNA E KABEERA O SAGHEERA KA MURTAQIB HEH TOH SAZZA KA MUSTAHIQ WOHI heh. Is say RasoolAllah kee Milaad kee kushi Haram, Shirk, Biddat, nahin hoti.

 

Aur arz heh kay ghair shairaee harkatoon kee milaad kay leyeh pabandi heh, wesay kia ghair sharahi kaam ho rahay hoon toh kohi pabandi heh, abh agir urateh peparda phir rahi hen toh mard kia keray gar meh sar chupa ker beth jahay? Shariat meh ess'i kohi pabandi nahin kay agir ghair sharaee kaam ho rahay hoon toh aap namaz chor denh, hajj nah keren, jahan sara muhashira kee begherati per tula ho jesa kay aaj kal kee tawahif sift urateh beparda kohi sharm o haya nahin toh is muhashiray meh Musalmaan ko kia kerna chahyeh aap batahen ... RasoolAllah nay toh kohi es'see pabandi nahin lagahi kay agir chori ho haqooq ul ilbad puray nah hoon, maulvi jhooti hadithen per ker sunahay toh phir namaz nahin peren, hajj bee nah keren, rozzay be nah rakhen ... Theek heh burahiyoon say bachna zeroori heh magir yeh condition laga ker kehna kay ACHA KAAM US WAQT KER SAKTAY HEN JAB YEH YEH YEH YEH BURAHIYAN NAH HOON TOH, WARNA ACHA KAAM KERNA JAHIZ NAHIN, HARAM HEH, BIDDAT HEH, SHIRK HEH, KUTTA HEH, BILLI HEH.

 

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in sab batoon ke ilawa ye bhi batana chahonga ke jab aap kisi amal ko jo ke "nai" new ho to us main changes aati hain or phir aik (1) nasal ya ziyada se ziyada teesri (3) nasal tak ke log tamam batoon ka khayal rakhtye hain lakin is ke baad us main jo tabdeeliyan aati hain un per koi control nahin hota...... or humara maqsad hi yahi hai is Meelad shareef ke naam per ke jis ki koi asal Sahaba ra.gif, Tabaeen or Taba Tabeen ke dor main nahin milti (jis tarha ke aaj humarye yahan hoti hain), jo kuch hota hai woh sab siwaye sahi zikr ke ghalat hota hai ghair sharaiee hota hai,

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Jee bilqul changes aati hen, jesa kay Azaan meh: "As'salatu Khairu Minan Nawv" bara deeya gaya, auratoon ka masjid meh anay say rok deeya gaya, weghera Namaz e Taraweeh joh kay RAsolAllah nay perh ker chor deeh theeh ussay Sahabah nay ba'jammat ada kerna shoroon ker deeya weghera sab Hadith e Sahiha say sabit hen. Jesay halaat badaltay hen masail badaltay hen aur un ko new dalahil kay saath samja jata heh.

 

Milaad kee Asal bilqul Hadith e mubarka meh heh, is ka inqaar sirf aur sirf is'see bunyaad per keeya jaa sakta heh:

 

* Kohi Aqeedah o Amal jis kee Quran O Hadith meh WAZIYA, EXPLICIT Daleel nahin Biddat heh.

 

Is asool kay bina per toh ghalat ho sakta heh, ghair sharai ho sakta heh. Aur mera bee toh yahee mowaqif heh kay Wahabiat meh sirf daleel e Qati, EXPLICIT daleel evidence heh, IJTIHAADI DALEEL. YEHNI INDIRECT DALEEL, QABAL E AMAL nahin. Aap nay Asal ba'mana EXPLICIT daleel leeya heh is upper wali aap kee quote meh, warna aap kabi yeh mutalba nah kertay. Khadim nay bee ghusul e Kabah kay baray meh yahee asool apnaya. Sirf aur sirf is leyeh kay Ahle Sunnat kee bughz meh aap ko yeh pata nahin lagta kay mukhalfat kis kee ker rahay hen. Toh meh nay ghusul e kabah joh aap kay Wahabi KERTAY HEN us ko biyaan keeya aur qati dalee mangi aur saath bataya kay qati daleel say sabit nahin., yeh ijtihaadi daleel say sabit heh.

 

Aab atay hen Milaad Shareef kee Asal kee taraf toh awal meh aap ko Biddat kee Wahabiyoon wali tareef bata doon,

 

* BIDAH In Sharia - any Action/Akidah without ASAL from the Qur'an or Sunnah, such is deemed as Bidah.

 

Asal ba'mana Qati' daleel toh ham mutafiq hen, aap ko shahid ihtiraaz ho Asal bamana IMPLICIT daleel, aur IMPLICIT DALEEl IJTIHAAD KEE BUNYAAD HEH. Aur sari tareef ko wazahat kay saath pesh kerta hoon:

 

* Biddat In Detail: Any Action/Akidah of which there is no Explicit or Implicit {direct or inderect} evidence from the Qur'an or the Sunnah is classed as Bidah. And any Action/Akidah of which there is no Implicit evidence, meaning Ijtihadi evidence, such is classed as Bidah.

 

Meri aap say guzarish heh kay aap Asal ka mafoom pehlay seekh lenh kay Asal ka matlab kia heh phir Asal kee nafi meh kuch likhna, joh upper aap nay likha sirf is baat ka saboot heh kay aap kay mutabiq AsaL EXPLICIT daleel hoti heh, aur baqi sab kuch bdiddat, toh aap zera tawajoh keren kay EXPLICIT DALEEL hee agir kabil e hujjat hoti toh phir GHUSUL E KABAH JESI CHEESE BE HARAM BIDDAT BAN JAATI HEH, AUR IJTIHAAD KEE JARH KEE QAT HO JAATI HEH, KEYUN KAY ITJIHAAD HOTA HEE UN MASAIL PER HEH JIN KA EXPLICIT SABOOT QURAN O HADITH MEH NAH HO.

 

Milaad Shareef kee Asal ba'mana EXPLICIT daleel toh sabit heh:

 

* Sahih Muslim, Book 006, Number 2606: "Abu Qatada Ansari (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah's Massenger (may peace be upon him) was asked about fasting on Monday, whereupon he said: It is (the day) when I was born and revelation was sent down to me."

 

Afzal o Ala o Bala, behtreen tareeka RasoolAllah ka yehni RasoolAllah kee waladat kee kushi meh har monday ko roza rakha jahay. Aur agir is kay ilawah agir kohi aur tareekeh kay saath be celebrate kerta heh, yehni muskarata heh kissi kee taraf dekh ker kay is din RasoolAllah peda huway thay toh Milaad hee celebrate hogi, izhar e kushi, celebration heh, muskarana Sunnat be heh, janda leh ker chalna be Sunnat e Sahabah heh, fojh meh Sahabah nay janda uthaya agir janda uthana biddat hota toh roka jata, istera jaloos kee shakal meh saffar kerna be sabit heh is'see tera har amal sabit ho jata heh. Har amal kissi nah kissi tareeqeh say amal e Sahabi ya RasoolAllah sabit ho jata heh aur agir un ka amal heh toh ham ko kernay meh sawab heh. Yeh saray amal ek dafa milaad kee shakal meh toh pesh nahin ahay differnt situations meh huway, magir in ka hona in kay jahiz Sunnat honay kee daleel heh, aur Sunnatoon per amal jab kero jahiz heh. Sahabah nay Ya RasoolAllah keh ker mukhatib keeya,abh Sunni be Ya RAsoolAlah kehtay hen, Sahabah RasooAllah kee majoodgi meh kehtay thay ham ghair majoodgi meh, magir amal Sahabi kee Sunnat heh, aur Sahabah ka rasta un'ni ka rasta heh jin kay rastay per ham chalnay kee Surah Fatihah meh dua kertay hen.

 

Jistera ham kertay hen yeh Ijtihaadi dalahil say sabit tareeka heh, Sunnatoon ka majmooa heh, abh agir aap Sunnatoon kay majmoohay ko be Biddat tehrahen Shirk tehrahen, toh is say bari BIDDAT kuch bee nahin.

 

Aur Milaad shareef ek acha amal heh is meh Sunnatoon per amal hota heh, han chand buray amal bee logh kertay hen milaad kee celebration kay jistera hajj kay doraan Wahabi Masjid e Haram meh kertay hen, magir Milaad per ihtiraaz jahalat heh. Abh achay amaal kay baray meh aur joh achay amaal kee taraf bulata heh us kay mutaliq doh hadith pesh e khidmat hen:

 

* Sahih Muslim Shareef, Book 034, Number 6470: "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who called (people) to righteousness, there would be reward (assured) for him like the rewards of those who adhered to it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who called (people) to error, he shall have to carry (the burden) of its sin, like those who committed it, without their sins being diminished in any respect."

 

Sahih Muslim Shareef, Book 034, Number 6466:"Jarir b. ... Then came another person and then other persons followed them in succession until signs of happiness could be seen on his (sacred) face. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: He who introduced some good practice in Islam which was followed after him (by people) he would be assured of reward like one who followed it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who introduced some evil practice in Islam which had been followed subsequently (by others), he would be required to bear the burden."

 

Ham toh RasoolAllah kee pedaish kee kushi kee taraf bulatay hen kay logo RasoolAllah kee waladat kee kushi ka izhar kero, joh be Shariat meh bataya huwa tareeka he us kay mutabiq kero, muskara doh, ibadat kero, weghera ... Baqi joh amal Quran O Hadith kee talimaat kay khilaaf heh yehni jin say roka gaya heh jin ka haram hona sabit heh agir woh kohi kerta heh toh woh khud us ka zumedaar heh, MIlaad Shareef ko target banana jahalat heh. Yeh istera heh kay agir kohi Hajj meh ghalat kaam kerta heh toh ham Hajj kay khilaaf ho jahen, ... joh jis amal ka murtaqib heh us kee sazza us ko millay gee, RasoolAllah kee waladat kee kushi Milaad kee mukhalfat is bina per nahin kee jaa sakti. Abh agir koh Kabah kee ibadat keray toh ham us ko idol ka label deh ker tor mor denh gay? Nahin joh Shirk keray ga wohi sazza pahay ga is meh Kabah say dushmani mor lena Kabah say nafrat kerna, Kabah ko Idol likhna, Greatest Idol likhna kissi aqalmandi ka saboot nahin, sirf jihalat ka saboot heh, is'see tera aap Milaad per ihtiraaz ker kay apni ilmi aur feham ka saboot deh rahay hen, sharm keren, ghalat kernay walay kee mukhalfat us ko roken us kee islah keren, MIlaad kee dushmani nah keren RasoolAllah say bughz nah keren.

[RadiatingAli]

Agar aap (baqool aap ke) wahabi they to yaqeenan ye to pata hoga ke jahan bohat si ghalatiya hain wahan is main bohat se ghair sharai aamal se bachna bhi tha or hai.......

in baton se waqti ikhtilaf to ho sakta hai aap ko lakin aap un batoon ko jhutla nahin saktye or mantye bhi hongye lakin taqleed bohat purani aadat hai zara der se jayegee..

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Ghair sharaee amaal say toh bachna zeroori heh, magir chor kee chori kee bina per HAJJ haram nahin ho jata. Masjid meh larahi ho jahay toh Namaz perna Biddat nahin ho jahay ga ... larnay walay khud sazza pahen gay, chor kee saza dunya meh milay agir nah toh aakhirat meh magir Namaz o Hajj per ihtiraaz nahin ho ga kay dekho jee hajj per choriyan hoti hen toh hajj biddat ho gaya jab taq yeh roki nah jahen us waqt taq hajj haram ho gaya shirk ho gaya.

 

Aap ka condifence thora ziyada thah, aabh agay wali reply meh batayeh ga kay aap kee batooh ko jutlaya heh ya nahin, baee sahib aap ko nursery meh hona chahyeh, Alif, bay, pay teh, seekhen ... aap kay ihtiraazat jahilana hen aur in ka saboot meh nay pesh ker deeya heh, prnay walay samaj jahen gay.

 

Taqleed waqia hee buri cheese heh, Imam Bukhari kee Taqleed bee bot buri heh, balkay Shirk heh, logoon nay RasoolAllah ko chor ker, Quran ko chor ker us kee Bukhari per apna amaal shoroon ker deeya, jistera Kaffiroon nay apnay haathoon say kitaab likhi is'see tera Bukhari nay be apni likh leeh aaj kal toh Bukhari kay mazhib per amal hota heh Bukhari per qaani taqleed jesay kay woh Allah ka nabi thah, Waqia hee Taqleed Shirk heh, sorry sorry, ghalti ho gaee, Sirf Imam Abu Hanifah kee Taqleed Shirk heh, Imam Bukahri kee talqeed quran say sabit heh bukhari quran say sabit heh, is per toh amal Quran say sabit heh Imam Bukhari kee taqleed shirk hoti toh deen hee thap ho jata, hajj, saum salat zakat sab thap, khatam. Is ko kehtay hen Qaaniyat, Andiyat, blindness, meh nay Taqleed nahin Tehqeeq kee heh tumari jesa qana, aur andiyat per qahim hota toh sirf ImamAbu Hanifah o Mujtahideen kee Taqleed ka munkir hota magir meh soch wala hoon, damagh use kernay wala hoon, socha kay Imam Abu Hanifah kee taqleed jahiz nahin toh phir Imam Bukhari kee taqleed meh Sahih Bukhari per amal kesay jahiz heh, aur agir Imam Bukhari kee taqleed jahiz heh toh phir Imam Abu Hanifah kee ghalat kis Quran o Hadith kee daleel kay mutabiq wrong heh, aakir meh bara socha nateeja nikala sirf doh firkeh sachay ho saktay hen, MUNKIREEN E HADITH, KEYUN KAY WOH BILQUL HADITH KAY MUNKIR IS LEYEH WOH KISSI KEE TAQLEED NAHIN KERTAY, dosray Muqalideen, keyun kay agir Taqleed jahiz hoti toh her Aalim kee jahiz heh joh sahib e Ilm ho, aur agir najaiz heh toh phir har ek kee najaiz heh jitna be ilm wala hee keyun nah ho. Abh meh bukhari chornay wala toh thah nahin aur Nah Imam Bukhari kee talqeed toh meh nay Muqalideen ko choose ker leeya aur phir is'see tera kertay kertay Sunni ho gaya. Wahabi, darmiyaan meh, joh acha laga us kee taqleed kee, aur joh nah laga us ko chor deeya ... Imam Bukhari say Raf Ul Yadain kee hadithen milti hen toh taqleed jahiz kerar deeh us kee. Wahabi be asool sabit huway aur Muqalideen Ba asool keyun kay woh Muhaddiseen aur mujtahideen ka taqleed kertay hen aur wahabi joh pasand aya us kee ki aur joh nah us ko chor deeya. Yehni Imam Bukahri kee Sahih Bukhari qabool Imam Abu Hanifah kee mukhalfat ....

 

Wama Alayna Ilal Balaghul Mubeen.

Muhammed Ali Razavi

[Haqeeqqt]

Chor macha'hay shor, Chor! Chor! Chor! Ya Allah ajeeb makhlooq peda kee heh tooh nay.

 

Aap kay Wahabi mazhib kay kay asoloon kay mutabiq arz heh. Joh aap kee daleel heh woh sirf peshaab kernay kay baad us jaga per paani dala jahay jahan per peshaab huwa heh, us kee daleel heh, toh aap batahen kay aap kia puri masjid meh peshaab kertay hen, yehni kohi idhar betha masjid meh peshaab ker raha hota heh aur kohi udhar aur phir sab Masjid ko doh detay ho?

 

Yeh Masjid ko donay kee daleel nahin, sirf jahan per peshaab gira heh us ko donay kee daleel heh, pehlay tum WAHABI masjid meh PESHAAB keeya kero, ya kohi agir masjid meh peshaab kerta heh toh phir paani say dowo, warna begher peshaab kay donay kee ijazat nahin, yeh toh huwa Wahabiat kay asoloon kay mutabiq jawab.

 

Aap batahen kay aap kay point ka maqsid kia heh, agir context meh meri post pertay toh maqsid yeh thah kay Masjid ko paani say donay kee sharan ijazat heh. Keyun kay maswood safaee heh jistera bee ho. Aur Ahle Sunnat kay asoloon kay mutabiq peshaab kay begher be doh saktya hen zeroori nahin kay kohi wahabi masjid meh peshaab keray toh us ko dowenh.

 

Baaqi Subject KABAH ko ghusul heh, TOH KIA WAHABI KABAH MEH PESHAAB KERTAY HEN, AUR PHIR KABAH KO GHUSUL DETAY HEN? Agir kohi kabah meh peshaab bee nahin kerta toh phir daleel nahin ban sakti, dosri baat yeh Hadith masjid meh PEHSAAB PEr paani dalnay kee daleel heh, woh hadith pesh kero jis meh likha ho kay KABAH MEH JAB KOHI PESHAAB KERAY TOH US KO PAANI SAY DOH DALO.

 

to muslims

[RadiatingAli]

Jee meh nay kab likha heh kay Kabah shareef Masjid nahin. Masjid bilqul heh magir hadith say sabit hota heh kay SARI masjid ko dona nahin balkay jahan per PESHAAB PERA THAH us ko doya gaya. Yeh toh huwi daleel kay Masjid kay us hissay ko donay kee jab us meh kohi pehsaab keray, magir woh HADITH PESH KEREN JIS MEH SARI MASJID KA DONAY KA ZIKR HO AUR BEGHER PESHAAB KAY DONAY KA ZIKR HO.

 

Aur meri quote jis ko aap nay highlight keeya heh:

 

Yeh SARI Masjid ko donay kee daleel nahin, sirf jahan per peshaab gira heh us ko donay kee daleel heh, pehlay tum WAHABI masjid meh PESHAAB keeya kero, ya kohi agir masjid meh peshaab kerta heh toh phir paani say dowo, warna begher peshaab kay donay kee ijazat nahin, yeh toh huwa Wahabiat kay asoloon kay mutabiq jawab.

 

Yeh meray underlined ilfaaz meh muj say ek khata huwi ibarat meh LAFZ: "SARI" likhna bhool gaya, meh nay is bat ka inqaar nahin keeya kay masjid donay kee daleel nahin balkay SARI MASJID DONAY KEE DALEEL NAHIN, KEYUN KAY USSI MEH YEH IBARAT BE HEH:

 

Agir kohi kabah meh peshaab bee nahin kerta toh phir daleel nahin ban sakti, dosri baat yeh Hadith masjid meh PEHSAAB PEr paani dalnay kee daleel heh, woh hadith pesh kero jis meh likha ho kay KABAH MEH JAB KOHI PESHAAB KERAY TOH US KO PAANI SAY DOH DALO.

 

Toh sabit huwa kay meh peshaab wali jaga ka donay ka munkir nahin thah balkay sirf KHATA HUWI AUR LAFZ 'SAARI' LIKHNAY BOOL GAYA. Woh bee typing kee speed say khata huwi.

 

Baqi aap meri posts ko peren aur un ka jawab denh agir kuch ata heh toh, meh nay MASJID kee saffaee wali hadith ka inqaar nahin keeya, meh nay yeh bee mana kay Kabah shareef Masjid Al Haram meh ka hissa heh, meh nay yeh be mana kay Kabah ko ghusul dena jahiz attar lagana, ghilaaf charwana, sab jahiz sawab wala kaam heh.

 

Magir ikhtilaaf yeh heh kay aap kay WAHABI MAZHIB MEH EXPLICIT DALEEL PER AMAL KEEYA JATA HEH MUJTAHID KA IJTIHAAD HUJJAT NAHIN, IMAM ABU HANIFAH KA IJTIHAAD AUR US KEE TAQLEED SHIRK HEH AAOP KAY WAHABI MAZHIB MEH, AAP KAY WAHABI MAZHIB MEH EXPLICIT DALEEL HUJJAT HEH, INDIRECT, IMPLCIT DALEEL HUJJAT NAHIN. Yehni jistera aap kehtay hen kay Geeyarween kee explicit daeel pesh kero jis meh Sahabah nay RasoolAllah nay Geeyarween manahi ho, Milaad kee daleel pesh kero, ham indirect daleel pesh kertay hen kay RasoolAllah nay apni Milaad kay din roza rakha aap ihtiraaz kertay hen jistera aap kertay hen istera sabit keren, abh ham bee wohi wahabi WALA ASOOl apna ker aap say KABAH KAY GHUSUL KEE DALEEL MANG RAHAY HEN, AUR US'SEE MIYAAR KEE DALEEL JOH AAP HAM SAY MANGTAY HEN, YEHNI EXPLICIT DALEEL.

 

JOh aap pesh ker rahay hen, woh ijtihaadi daleel heh, jesay ham pesh kertay hen, ham be ijtihaadi daleel pesh kertay hen, aur abh aap ka sar pansa heh toh aap be ijtihaadi daleel pesh ker rahay hen, aap yeh keren kay sirf EK HADITH PESH KEREN JIS MEH SAHABAH NAY KABAH KO GHUSUL DEEYA HO, bas mamla khatam, agir nahin deh saktay toh phir yaa is miyaar e expplcit daleel ko chor doh ya phir ghusul dena chor doh, munafqat say baaz ajaho.

[RadiatingAli]

Aap ka bahi AbdulSalam toh Milaad celebrate kernay per tiyaar ho chuka heh. Wesay aap pehli meri sari posts ko peren, phir jawab denh, yeh do lafz likh dena be maqsid heh, agir discussion kerni heh toh phir har point ka jawab denh, warna chup hee rahen.

[Haqeeqqt]

Jee meh nay kab likha heh kay Kabah shareef Masjid nahin

 

Masjid bilqul heh

 

 

 

to muslims

 

Janab jab aap khud mantay hain Kaa'ba masjid hai to aap k yeh aiteraz k yeh dekhao k Kaa'ba kahan likha hai yeh to masjid likha hai fazool hai.

hadith say sabit hota heh kay SARI masjid ko dona nahin

 

[RadiatingAli]

to muslims

 

Janab jab aap khud mantay hain Kaa'ba masjid hai to aap k yeh aiteraz k yeh dekhao k Kaa'ba kahan likha hai yeh to masjid likha hai fazool hai.

 

 

Keroon kia Wahabiyah aqal pay matam teri,

Ikhtilaaf samja hee nah, bewaqofi asliyat teri,

 

{Yeh Joh Kuch Be Likhoon Ga Wahabiyat Kay Asooloon Kay Mutabiq Likhoon Ga, Yeh Mowaqif Ahle Sunnat Ka Nahin, Yeh Behas Wahabi V.S. Wahabi-Asool kay darmiyaan heh.}

 

Hadith meh ayah heh kay MASJID KO SAAF RAKHO, magir saf kis tera kero, yeh tareeka nahin bataya, kia Sahabah nay MASJIDOON KO GHUSUL DEEYA THAH, agir Sahabah nay nahin deeya toh sabit ho gaya kay masjid ko ghusul dena jahiz nahin. Ek hadith PESH kero jis meh yeh likha ho kay MASJID KO SAAF KERO GHUSUL DEH KER, Sunnat wohi heh joh RasoolAllah nay keeh aur un kay Sahabah nay us kay ilawah toh har cheese biddat heh, abh agir Sahabah nay Masjid ko ghusul deeya toh ghusul kee daleel pesh kero, aur agir Sahabah nay sirf masjid meh jarooh deeya, aur pat'thoo [leaves} say safahi kee toh phir yahee Sunnat heh, warna ghusul dena Biddat heh.

 

Jistera Sahabah nay masjid ko saaf keeya, ustera kerna chahyeh, is kay ilawah Biddat heh Biddat. Han Hadith meh takhsees nahin kee gahahi magir SAHABAH nay kistera is hadith per, is hokam e RasoolAllah per amal keeya. Sahabah toh RasoolAllah kay farmaan ko behtreen samajtay hen, unoon nay is hadith per kistera amal keeya. RasoolAllah nay toh takhsees nahin kee, magir Sahabah nay is hadith per kesay amal keeya, ghusul deeya, jarooh mara, aur sab say behtreen, afzal understanding Sahabah kee heh is hadith per.Abh Sahabah ko chor ker ham kesay ghusul deh saktay hen, Sahabah nay jarooh mara ho aap is ko chor ker ghusul denh toh kia apnay aap ko Sahabah say behtr samajtay hen, kia aap ka feham RasoolAllah kay Sahabah say behtr heh.? Jistera Sahabah nay RasoolAllah kay farmaan per amal keeya wohi mafoom e hadith hoga, wohi farmaan e RasoolAllah kay mafoom tehraya jahay ga.

 

Abh agir yeh hadith har MASJID kay leyeh thee, toh phir daleel pesh keren kay Sahabah nay Kabah ko saaf keeya ho, chalen ek hadith pesh ker den jis meh yeh likha ho kay kissi nay Kabah ko saaf keeya, yaqeen keren aap KABAH meh jarooh marnay kee hadith bee pesh nahin ker saken gay ghusul toh door kee baat. Agir is hadith say muraad har masjid, yehn Masjid haram be heh toh phir daleel pesh keren kay kissi Sahabi nay Kabah ko andar say saaf keeya ho, is Biddat ko kabi sabit nahin kr saktay.

 

Meh nay mutalba keeya thah kay puri MASJID DONAY KEE DALEEL, aap nay woh daleel pesh kee jis meh kissi nay MASJID MEH PESHAAB KEEYA TOH RASOOLALLAH NAY PESHAAB PER PAANI DAAL DEEYA:

 

Sahih Bukhari, Book 73, Good Manners And Form (Al-Adab), Hadith 054: Narrated By Anas bin Malik : A bedouin urinated in the mosque and the people ran to (beat) him. Allah's Apostle said, "Do not interrupt his urination (i.e. let him finish). "Then the Prophet asked for a tumbler of water and poured the water over the place of urine.

 

Abh yeh Kabah kay ghusul kee daleel nahin ho sakti, ya aam Masjid ko ghusul denay kee daleel nahin ho sakti, keyun kay is meh shart pahi gahi heh, kay agir kohi Masjid meh chota peshaab ker deh toh us kay upper paani daal doh. Aur jab taq kohi chota peshaab nah keray toh Masjid ka kohi hissa be dona biddat sabit hoga. Aur is kay saath arz heh kay yeh hadith sirf chotay peshaab per paani dalnay kee daleel heh, agir kohi is meh bara'peshaab yehni defecate kerta heh toh phir yeh hadith us kay leyeh daleel nahin ho sakti. Aur saath hee ek aur nuqta arz heh kay agir kohi beduin, yehni registaan meh rehnay wala masjid meh chota peshaab keray masjid meh toh wahan per paani dala jahay, agir kohi sha'hir ka, Madinah ka yehni kissi city ka rehnay wala masjid meh chota peshaab kerta heh toh us kay upper paani dalnay kee yeh hadith daleel nahin ban sakti. Warna esa kerna Biddat hoga.

 

RasoolAllah ka farmaan e mubarak heh, Har biddat gumrahi heh, aur har Biddat jahanum kee aag kee taraf leh ker jaati heh, yeh Kabah ko Ghusul dena Biddat heh, joh Sahabah kay amal say sabit nahin, is leyeh har woh shakhs joh manta heh is ko is per amal kerta heh aur is ka difa kerta heh woh jahanumi heh.

Edited 12 مئی 2009 by RadiatingAli

[Haqeeqqt]

Hadith meh ayah heh kay MASJID KO SAAF RAKHO, magir saf kis tera kero, yeh tareeka nahin bataya.

 

Jee meh nay kab likha heh kay Kabah shareef Masjid nahin

 

yeh joh hadith aap nay pesh kee heh yeh MASJIDOON kay leyeh heh, KABAH kay leyeh nahin

 

Hadith meh Kabah kee baat nahin ho rahi, muhallay meh masjidoon kee ho rahi heh

 

Sab say pehlay yeh batahen kay Kabah ko ghusul denay wali Hadith kahan per heh

 

Saffaee say aap nay ghusul kesay mafoom leh leeya zera bewaqoofi kee kohi daleel pesh keren

 

 

Keroon kia Wahabiyah aqal pay matam teri,

Ikhtilaaf samja hee nah, bewaqofi asliyat teri,

 

 

to muslims

 

 

 

Reh gai baat ijtehaad ki to aap ko maloom hi naheen k Ijtehaad ki kia hasiyat hai humaray manhaj main aur hum ijtehad kaisay kertay hain. Jis tarah ki jahilana batain aap ker rahay hain iss hat-dharmi ka koi haal naheen.

 

Tum Ahl-e-Sunnat bantay ho aur Fiqh Hanafi ko man-o-un letay ho to apnay tamam sawalon aur aiterazat ko apni fiqh main lafz-ba-lafz dekha do warna tum bhi naam nehaad Ahle Sunnat ho aur Fiqh Hanafi k munkir ho.

jab dekha do to phir hum say jawab lay lena.

 

[RadiatingAli]

to muslims

 

 

Reh gai baat ijtehaad ki to aap ko maloom hi naheen k Ijtehaad ki kia hasiyat hai humaray manhaj main aur hum ijtehad kaisay kertay hain. Jis tarah ki jahilana batain aap ker rahay hain iss hat-dharmi ka koi haal naheen.

 

Tum Ahl-e-Sunnat bantay ho aur Fiqh Hanafi ko man-o-un letay ho to apnay tamam sawalon aur aiterazat ko apni fiqh main lafz-ba-lafz dekha do warna tum bhi naam nehaad Ahle Sunnat ho aur Fiqh Hanafi k munkir ho.

jab dekha do to phir hum say jawab lay lena.

 

 

Baee sahib agir mujjay pata nahin kay Wahabiyat meh Ijtihaad kee kia hasiyat heh aur ijtihaad kesay keeya jata heh toh aap batahen, meh toh seekhnay kay leyeh tiyaar hoon. Yeh Shahid aap kay leyeh jahilana bateh hoon, meh nay toh Hadith ko mad e nazr rakh ker baat kee heh.

 

Abh meray mutalbaat kay WAZIA EXPLICIT DIRECT daleel kay aap ko jahilana, hat'dharmi, lagtay hen, toh aap ko pata heh kay BARELWI QABR PARAST be Milaad Shareef subject per aap kay WAZIA EXPLICIT DIRECT dalahil kay mutalbat ko jahilana, begherati, aur hat'dharmi samajtay hen.

 

Jistera tum abhi Ghusul e Kabah kay subject per, ek tukra ek hadith ka jora, thora say udhar say leeya, totay jor jor ker tum GHUSUL E KABAH sabit ker rahay ho, jistera tum 10 pesay, 50 pesay 1 pesay, 2 pesay jor jor kr 1 rupaiya bana rahay ho yehni ghusul e kabah sabit ker rahay ho, is'seee tera BARELWI be Milaad kay subject per, ada tota ek hadith say, thora udhar say, thora idhar say, 50 pesay, 10 pesay, chawani, jor jor ker 1 rupaiya banatay hen, aur Milaad e RasoolAllah ko sabit kertay hen. Barelwiyoon say toh tum kehtay ho Biddati Barelwiyoh: "HADITH PESH KER JIS MEH SAHABAH NAY MILAAD KO GALI KOOCHOON MEH CELEBRATE KEEYA HO, WAZIA DALEEL PESH KERO, SAHABAH NAY JANDAY UTHA KER GALIYOON MEH 11 RABI UL AWAL KO MILAAD MANAYA HO." Abh jab meh nay bilqul aap ka apna kareena, aap ka apna asool, aap kay galay meh dala aur mutalbah keeya, Biddati Wahabiyoh: "EK WAZIYAH HADITH PESH KERO JIS MEH SAHABAH NAY GHUSUL DEEYA HO KABAH KO, MASJID KO, YA RASOOLALLAH NAY HOKAM DEEYA HO ESA KRNAY KA." toh aap nay toh meri AUR HAQIQAT MEH APNay wahabi mazhib ko in ilfaaz say nawaza: "Jis tarah ki jahilana batain aap ker rahay hain iss hat-dharmi ka koi haal naheen." Kaha toh mujjay heh magir meh nay asool aap kay istimaal keeyeh hen toh haqiqat meh aap apnay aap ko hee keh rahay hen, asmaan per peshaab kernay kee koshish kero gay toh moon meh peray ga.

 

Aray baee, agir Fiqah e Imam Abu Hanifah aur un kay Asool e Fiqah ka munkir hona kohi jurm heh toh aap be toh barabar kay shareek hen is meh, Kia aap chahtay hen kay Muqalideed Imamoon kee Taqleed meh Fiqah ko kabool keren, kia aap kay aur meray apnay Wahabi mazhib meh Taqleed Shirk nahin? Kia meray aur aap kay mazhib yehni Wahabiat meh Taqleed e Shakhsi gumrahi, Biddati, Shirk nahin, agir heh toh phir mujjay keyun tana deh rahay hen kay tum Fiqh e Ha'nafi kay munkir ho. Tum ko toh kush hona chahyeh kay meh nay Taqleed chor deeh heh aur Fiqah e Imam Abu Hanifah ka munkir ho gaya hoon aur Quran o Hadith kay dalahil per amal kerta hoon. Pagal kutta abh kambay ko nochay, ... jab kohi aur chara nah chala, aur naaq kay bal gaseeta gaya toh Fiqah e Hanifah kay munkir ho, munkir ho, jesay tooh Imam Abu Hanifah kee Fiqh ka mama lagta heh.

 

Chalo tum likh doh kay tum Fiqh e Imam Abu Hanifah ka aur Asool e Fiqh e Imam Abu Hanifah kay mutabiq kohi be fesla ho tum kabool kero gay, meh khud Asool e Fuqha e Ahle Sunnat kay mutabiq Ghusul e Kabah kee wazahat aur dalahil e Ijtihadiyah say is ko sabit ker doon ga.

 

Joh asool aap ghairoon kay leyeh istimaal kertay hen ussay apnoon kay leyeh be istimaal keren aur agir aap ka amal aap kay asool kay khilaaf heh toh phir ya amal ko choren ya phir asool ko badlen, agir tum totay joro aur maslay sabit kero toh phir Barelwiyoon kay leyeh bee yahee asool qabool kero un kay bee totay juray huway qabool kero, agir un kay totoon ko kabool nahin kertay aur biddat tehratay ho toh phir apnay bee jorna chor doh aur ghusul e kabah ko biddat tehra doh. Jistera tum Barelwiyoon say expect kertay ho kay woh tumaray totay juray huway maan lenh aur jistera tum apnay totay juray huwoon ko sahih Quran o Hadith kee tarjumani samajtay ho is'see tera agay walay BARELWI bee apnay totoon ko Quran o Sunnat kee tarjumani samajtay hen, mukhtasar ya totay jorna chor doh, ya joh jortay hen un ko bura kena chor doh. Yeh begherati, Munafqat chor doh kay Wahabi keren toh theek heh aur Barelwi keren toh ghalat heh, deen ek heh aur sab kay leyeh asool ek hen, agir barelwi Biddati hen totay jornay kee bina per toh phir aap bee us'see jurm meh shareek hen aur aap per be wohi fatwah lagta heh joh aap un per lagatay hen, yhni biddati.

 

Do rangi chor deh yak rang hoja

Sarasar mom'h ya sang ho jah

 

Apnay aap ko badlo, yeh joh sabak tummeh mil raha heh is per ghor kero, aur marnay say pehlay Wahabiyat say tobah ker loh. Meh bee Wahabi thah aur meh Wahabi ban jata hoon jab zeroorat perti heh toh, batoon say deen samaj nahin ata soch say ata heh apnay aap meh soch peda kero.Agir meri replies per ker tumaray andar ka soya huwa insaan jaag nah sakka toh phir shahid kabi bee nah jagay.

 

Muhammed Ali Razavi

Edited 12 مئی 2009 by RadiatingAli

[Abdulsalam]

Apnay aap ko badlo, yeh joh sabak tummeh mil raha heh is per ghor kero, aur marnay say pehlay Wahabiyat say tobah ker loh. Meh bee Wahabi thah aur meh Wahabi ban jata hoon jab zeroorat perti heh toh, batoon say deen samaj nahin ata soch say ata heh apnay aap meh soch peda kero.Agir meri replies per ker tumaray andar ka soya huwa insaan jaag nah sakka toh phir shahid kabi bee nah jagay.

 

Muhammed Ali Razavi

 

Janab Radiating Ali

Aap ke pesh karda khud sakhta taweelat or Meelad ke jawab main, Ghusl-e-Kaaba ke silsilye main bohat jald jawab mil jayega (Insha Allah),

 

lakin filhal sirf ye hi kehna hai ke Quote main diye gaye (in bold words) aap siwaye munfiq ke kuch or nahin lagtye hain.

Jab chaha Barelvi hogye or jab chaha kuch or (aap ke baqool Wahabi)"

 

Doosri baat kis ne kaha ke soch se deen aata hai..... ? aap agar apnye ulama ki taqleed (jamid or shakhsi) chor dain or Quran or Ahadith ka mutalia karain to aap ko yaqeenan deen ke sahi mana maloom ho jayengye...deen ko samajhyen sahi ahadith or Quran se na ke apnye aamlimon ki tasaneef se

 

Jawab ka intizar karain

 

Abdul Salam

[Haqeeqqt]

Baee sahib agir mujjay pata nahin kay Wahabiyat meh Ijtihaad kee kia hasiyat heh aur ijtihaad kesay keeya jata heh toh aap batahen, meh toh seekhnay kay leyeh tiyaar hoon. Yeh Shahid aap kay leyeh jahilana bateh hoon, meh nay toh Hadith ko mad e nazr rakh ker baat kee heh.

 

Muhammed Ali Razavi

 

 

to msulims

 

janab Radiating Ali, Kuli say Juzi sabit hota hai, yani jahan nabi (saww) nay takhsees naheen ki wahan her mashroo tareeqa jaiz hai.

 

Edited 13 مئی 2009 by Haqeeqqt

[RadiatingAli]

to msulims

 

janab Radiating Ali, Kuli say Juzi sabit hota hai, yani jahan nabi (saww) nay takhsees naheen ki wahan her mashroo tareeqa jaiz hai.

 

 

Agir esa thah toh phir SAHABAH nay KABAH KO KEYUN NAH GHUSUL DEEYA? Tooh kia RasoolAllah kay farmaan kee Tashri Sahabah say behtr ker sakta heh, joh Sahabah ka amal hoga woh MAFOOM e farmaan e RasoolAllah hoga. Agir ghusul bee muraad hota toh phir keyun ghusul nah deeya, SIRF IS LEYEH KAY UNOON NAY IS HADITH SAY GHUSUL MURAAD NAH LEEYA, AGIR LEEYA HOTA TOH GHUSUL DEEYA JATA. Sahabah kay baad Tabi, aur phir Tabi'tabiyoon ahay taqriban 100 saal guzer janay kay taq Tabi tabiyoon hayaat thay, agir FARMAAN E RASOOLALLAH KA mafoom ghusul DENA be hota toh phir kitni ajeeb baat heh kay 100 saal taq yeh farmaan Sahabah, Tabi, Tabi Tabiyoon kay samnay raha magir kissi nay KABAH YA KISSI AUR MASJID ko ghusul nahin deeya, aaj WAHABI AHAY AUR INOON NAY HADITH KO SAHIH SAMJA. Sahabi ko RasoolAllah kay farmaan ka mafoom nahin pata magir WAHABI ko pata heh, lanat ho Wahabiyat per.

 

Abh toh meri posts ka jawab bee nahin aa raha, AbdulSalam sahib per ek post ka udhar char gaya aur woh utray ga bee nahin, keyun kay MILAAD toh maan leeh in'noon nay. Aur Haqeeqat per be doh udhar char chukay hen ek pichli post aur us say pichli ka bee jawab nahin deeya gaya sirf : "meh na kehta thah ... is leyeh ... yooh huwa ... quran hadith .... bahir say andar say ... upper say neechay say .... maslan kaha thah .... tum ko samaj nahn aati .... is leyeh yeh shirk heh .... barelwi mushrik pagal sabot ho gaya." Aur ek doh lines likhnay kaay baad post ker deeya jesa kay kohi jawab likha heh, lagta heh wahabiat meh joh marzi likh deeya jahay toh MAQOOL RAD TEHRAYA JATA HEH. Tars ata heh tumari ilmi oqaat dekh ker, ... apnay aap ko baray kutb ul aftaab samaj rahay hogay, ... halan kay asliyat yeh heh kay bunyaadi uloom ka bee pata nahin.

[RadiatingAli]

Wesay tum nay Qulli aur Juzi kee takhsees kee heh toh arz heh kay kia is hadith say Milaad Juzi tor per sabit hoti heh ya nahin:

 

* Sahih Muslim, Book 006, Number 2606: "Abu Qatada Ansari (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah's Massenger (may peace be upon him) was asked about fasting on Monday, whereupon he said: It is (the day) when I was born and revelation was sent down to me."

 

Meh toh samajta hoon kay kulli tor per sabit hoti heh, aur celebrate kernay ka ek juz be sabit hota heh, wesay aap ko ijazat heh joh marzi jawab denh magir takhsees e juzi kulli ko mad e nazr rakh ker jawab dee jeeyeh ga.

[Abdulsalam]

* Sahih Muslim, Book 006, Number 2606: "Abu Qatada Ansari (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah's Massenger (may peace be upon him) was asked about fasting on Monday, whereupon he said: It is (the day) when I was born and revelation was sent down to me."

Meh toh samajta hoon kay kulli tor per sabit hoti heh, aur celebrate kernay ka ek juz be sabit hota heh, wesay aap ko ijazat heh joh marzi jawab denh magir takhsees e juzi kulli ko mad e nazr rakh ker jawab dee jeeyeh ga.

 

Main to samajhta hon ke aap ki kam aqli per afsoos karna chahiye.......

is hadith se istadla ye hi kar saktye hain ke is din roza rakhna jayez hoa....... phir isi muslim shareef main doosri ahadith bhi kehtye hain ek Hazoor e Pak , ne is tarha ki koi takhsees na ki or Sahaibi ke poochnye per un ko ijazat marhamat farmaye.....

is se Meelad ke akhaz shuda masayel or aamal kahan se istadlal kartye hain aap..................?

 

ab aatye hain is taraf ke aap is se kia kia sabit karna chahtye hain...

Aap ke nazdeek Hazoor e Akram ki pedayesh ki khushi manana jayez hota hai to phir Birthday celebrate bhi kar saktye hain.... kartye to hongye..... kion ke is main dost ahbab ko dawat detye hain, dawat to jayez hai.... tohfye tahayef liye jatye hain.. tohfa delna or lena jayez hai....... khana khilaya jata hain (ab miskeenon ko ya phir apnye ahabab ko) jayez hai...... waghera

agar nahin to kis bina per nahin manatye............?

 

Main ne jo sharayte rakhi hain main us bhi rojoo karta hon ot meelad se mutaliq ye aik fatwa pesh-e-khidmat hai...

 

is main site ka naam hai joke aap ke khud sakhta usoolon ke khilaf hai, agar ye fatwa yahin rehnye diya jaye to bohat behtar hoga.. in other care main dobara koshish karonga ke bagher site ke is ko pesh karon

 

 

 

 

Is ke ilawa jab aap meri (chahye khud sakhta kahen ya kuch or) sharayet ko dekhtyengye to maalom ho ga is ki sab se pehli shart ke mutabiq "jab aap is ka din makhsoos nahin karyengye to aap khud bakhood meelad jo ke Molood se akhaz shuda hai ka naam khatam ho jayega.... is ke baad doosri tamam sharayet per amal pera honye per jo mehfil wajood main aayegi woh to deband hon ya hum ahl-e-hadeeth taqreeban roz hi manatye hain.... kion ke Hazoor e Akram ka zikr to hum har rooz hi kisi na kisi sorrat main kartye hain... or deo band hazrat Rahamt ulil Aalameen conference ke soorat main manatye hain... lakin kisi din ko makhsoos kiye baghyer.......

 

Ab aap apnye is meelad ko sabit karnye ke liye Hajj ko takhta e Masq banana chahtye hain to aap ki aqal per afsoos hi kar saktye hain or kuch nahin....

 

Abdul Salam

Edited 18 مئی 2009 by Ya Mohammadah
Wahabi apni sites ka advt. yahan baar baar karky kyu zillat uthaty hain?

[Abdulsalam]

Janab Radiating Ali

Aap ke pesh karda khud sakhta taweelat or Meelad ke jawab main, Ghusl-e-Kaaba ke silsilye main bohat jald jawab mil jayega (Insha Allah),

 

Janab Radiating Ali (Maloom nahin lakin "Radiating" likhtye hoye na janye kion aap ka surkh chehra saamnye aata, jab ke mujhye ilm hi nahin ke aap kesye hain lakin pata nahin kion)

 

well

Jab ke main pehlye hi Ghusl-e-Ka'ba ke silsilye main Hadith e Ummul Mo'meneen Hazrat Ayesha se istadlal ka imkan pesh kar chuka hon..... lakin aap usoolon main ulajh gaye hain.......

Bahar Hal reply ki wajah ye thi ke zer-e-sataoor jo tehreer hai ye merye paas aik arsye se hai lakin main is ko confirm nahin kar saka hon, kion ke ibn-e-jubair ki kitab mere paas nahin, na hi koi or taareekhi waqiyat ki kitab jis main ke ye mujhye mil sakye... secondly aik Sorah ki ayat hai jo ke Fatah e Makkah ke waqt i hai jis main ke Ka'ba ki tatheer ka irshad bhi hai. lakin is waqt mujhye wo sorrat or ayat nahin yaad aa rahi hai.

 

bahr hal tahreer pesh e khidmat hai

 

 

Abdul Salam

[Ya Mohammadah]

 

Jab ke main pehlye hi Ghusl-e-Ka'ba ke silsilye main Hadith e Ummul Mo'meneen Hazrat Ayesha se istadlal ka imkan pesh kar chuka hon..... lakin aap usoolon main ulajh gaye hain.......

 

Goya ki hum apny mubah or mustahab afaal par jaisy teeja chaliswa nazr o niyaz fatiha milad in sary umoor par koi hadees koi quran ki ayat nahin paish karty...paish karny par apky radd e amal kya hota hai kya batany ki hajat hai? tamam tar dalail ko "qullo biddatin zalala" keh kar radd kar diya jata hai..to phir aaj kya suraj maghrib se nikla hai? ye kese aapny masjid ko khana e kaaba ke ghusl (aap bhool gaye ki aitraaz sirf ghusl par hi nahin balki us se jurhi kai rasumat par bhi tha) par istedlaal kiya hai or agar aapko is tarah istedlaal ka haq hai to kya aap mein insaaf ke saath jawab dene ki himmat hai ki yahi haq humy hasil kyu naihn?

 

 

Bahar Hal reply ki wajah ye thi ke zer-e-sataoor jo tehreer hai ye merye paas aik arsye se hai lakin main is ko confirm nahin kar saka hon, kion ke ibn-e-jubair ki kitab mere paas nahin, na hi koi or taareekhi waqiyat ki kitab jis main ke ye mujhye mil sakye... secondly aik Sorah ki ayat hai jo ke Fatah e Makkah ke waqt i hai jis main ke Ka'ba ki tatheer ka irshad bhi hai. lakin is waqt mujhye wo sorrat or ayat nahin yaad aa rahi hai.

 

bahr hal tahreer pesh e khidmat hai

 

shayad aapki yaddasht par waqt ki dhool jama ho gayi hai is liye dubara aitraaz phir se parh lein or jawab dein ye kis hadees ki kitab se apny jawab paish kiya hai? kya humy aapko yaad dilana parega ki aap to quran or hadees ke ilawa kisi par aitmaad nahin karty?  aapka minhaaj kya Quran or Hadees ke ilawa bhi kuch or ho gaya hai? aaj zaroorat parhny par kese kese kartab dikha raha hai ye wahabi banda..? 

 

 

[Abdulsalam]

(aap bhool gaye ki aitraaz sirf ghusl par hi nahin balki us se jurhi kai rasumat par bhi tha

Janab Yasir Attari sahib to ye to maan gaye ke Ghusl is Hadith ke istadlal ke mutabiq sahi hai? rah gai is juri doosri rasoomat to ok lets dicuss those as well

 

 

kis hadees ki kitab se apny jawab paish kiya hai? kya humy aapko yaad dilana parega ki aap to quran or hadees ke ilawa kisi

 

Aap bhi shayed bhool gaye ke main ne pehlye hi likha hai ke "Ye tehreer marye pass bohat arsye se pari hai lakin Ibn-e-Jareer or Doosri riwayat ki tehqeeq nahin ho saki hai lakin aap ke liye pesh e khidmat hai"

 

Phir aap ka Shor machana kesa????? main ne is se istadlal ki to koi baat hi nahin ki.... Doosri taraf aap ka asal mas-ala to sirf apni Chehlum, Teeja, Chaleeswan, Meelad ko sharai qarar dilwana hai war aap ke nazdeek ye sab to jayez hai phir bhi masla to hai ke "Chor machaye shoor" Phir merye nazdeek ye post sirf waqt ko zaya karna or dhayan batanye ki koshish hai. jo ke main pehlye hi keh chuka hon

 

 

Do Rikat namaz Hazoor e Akram or Sahaba se sabith hai, Bukhari o Muslim se sabit hai

Islami Mumalik ke Wafood..... Jab ke Ghusle Kaa'ba aik khas muamla hai (Lakin Deeni nahin) or har Musalman is ki chahat rakhta hai lehaza wafood bulwaye jatye hain (lakin ye meri apni sooch hai)

baqi rahi doosri baton ka saboot to kia main aap ko aik kitab hadiya na karon ke jis se aap ke ilm main kuch izafa ho sakye???

Waiting for your reply???

 

Baqi rahi meelad ki baat to janab is ke liye Allama ALbani ka fatwa (jo ke aap ne delete kar diya hai....) jo ke aap ke paas yaqeenan hoga mulahiza farma lain .... or agar thori jurrat karain or doosron ko kisi or site ke tawassut se share bhi kar lain.

 

 

Abdul Salam

Edited 25 مئی 2009 by Abdulsalam

[MuhammedAli]

Salam alayqum,

Is section mein Abdul Salam sahib ko meri taraf say aik jawab likha gaya thah joh idhar nahin. Yehni in ki akhiri post kay baad mera aik jawab thah ... jis ko kissi waja say delete kar deeya gaya ya forum update karteh huway delete ho gahi. Please check keren aur restore kar denh. 2012/2013 mein post keeya thah.

Edited 1 جون 2018 by MuhammedAli