Masla Rikat-e-Taraweeh

[Talinenoor]

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Abb aik mufasil mazmoon Taraweeh k silsile main pesh-e-khidmet hai.

Edited 14 ستمبر 2008 by talinenoor

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[Khalil Rana]

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JazakAllah buhat khoob Muhataram Khalil Rana Sahib

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Khalil Rana Sahib bahut achca jawaab diya aap ne .

 

[Talinenoor]

Asslamoalikum 2 all muslims,

 

Khalil Rana sahib, main ne jo mazmoon pesh kia hai woh Hafiz Zubair Ali Zai sahib ka hi hai. Main ne iss ko apne naam se hergiz pesh nahin kia. Bal'k mazmoon main siref Hafiz Zubair Ali Zai sahib ka naam nahin hai aur yeh koi barri baat nahin. Galat tab hota jab main yeh kehta k yeh main ne likha hai.

 

Doosra aap ki bechargi zahir hai. Hafiz Zubair Ali Zai sahib ne sabit kia hai k 8 rikat taraweeh hi sunnet hai. aur uss per jo Ahadees pesh ki hai bilkul sahih hain. Aap k bila'daleel zaeef kehne se to Eesa bin Jaria zaeef nahin ban sakta. Hafiz Zubair Ali Zainsahib ne isse jamhoor k nazdeek siqqa sabit kia hai. Jisse aap baari khoobsoorti se chupa gae hain.

 

Iss k moqable main aap logon k paas aik bhi hadees sahih mojood nahin jo yeh sabit kare k taraweeh 20 rikaat hai. Iss baat ka aap ko khud bhi pata hai k aap k paas koi sahih hadees mojood nahin. Issi liye barri bechargi se fermaia k mursel aap k nazdeek hujjet hai.

Aap k nazdeek mozoo aur jhooti rawaet bhi apne matlab k liye qabool keren to main kia ker sakta hoon. Parrhne walon se kehna hai k mursel munqata rawet hoti hai jo jamhoor k nazdeek zaeef hi hai.

Khalil Rana sahib mursel ko hujjet banane ki baat aap log na hi karen to behter hai werna main yahan per woh mursel rawaiaat bian ker sakta hoon jin ko aap kabhi nahin manen ge. Lahaza koi sahih hadees ho to pesh karen werna logon ko bewaqoof banana chor dain.

 

Wasalam

Edited 23 ستمبر 2008 by talinenoor

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[Khalil Rana]

[sunny_prince2020]

hazrat Ulama nay is ka jawab likha hay likn wo juzvi tor par Mukhtalif kitaboon may hay Moulana Ameen Safdar owkarvi rehmatullah nay bhi iska jawab likha hay

may is risaley key aik aik lafz ko quote kar k aik aik baat ka jawab dena chahta hon lakin mawad ki kami hay kuch hazrat sey baat ki hay inshaALLAH jese hi time milta hay zaroor kuch dekhon ga

abi tak may nay iska aik hawala check kia hay baraheen e qateya ka is nay dia hay k 8 taraweeh par sab ka ittefaq hay wo hawala deney may bhi is nay dhokey sey kaam lia hay is nay asal baat bayan nahi ki baraheen e qateya darul isha'at wali k page 8 par likha howa hay k taraweeh 20 rakat hay

[Kafeel Ahmed Khan]

hazrat Ulama nay is ka jawab likha hay likn wo juzvi tor par Mukhtalif kitaboon may hay Moulana Ameen Safdar owkarvi rehmatullah nay bhi iska jawab likha hay

may is risaley key aik aik lafz ko quote kar k aik aik baat ka jawab dena chahta hon lakin mawad ki kami hay kuch hazrat sey baat ki hay inshaALLAH jese hi time milta hay zaroor kuch dekhon ga

abi tak may nay iska aik hawala check kia hay baraheen e qateya ka is nay dia hay k 8 taraweeh par sab ka ittefaq hay wo hawala deney may bhi is nay dhokey sey kaam lia hay is nay asal baat bayan nahi ki baraheen e qateya darul isha'at wali k page 8 par likha howa hay k taraweeh 20 rakat hay

Edited 29 اگست 2009 by Kafeel Ahmed Khan

[Qadri Sultani]

Wahhabi g aap ke nazar tu theek hay na????Bhaga kon hua hay yahan say??????Pehlay ooper dia gya jawabat paro baad main jawab do....

 

Baykar ke behas na karo..

[Kafeel Ahmed Khan]

[Kafeel Ahmed Khan]

تہجد یا تراویح جناب رانا صاحب کا جواب

[Qadri Sultani]

[Kafeel Ahmed Khan]

خلیل رانا کے جواب میں صرف، 1 مسلہ اگر حل ہو جائے تو سارے مسلے حل ھو جائنگے۔

[Kafeel Ahmed Khan]

 

 

بسم اللہ الرحمن الرحیم

اسلام علیکم

جناب چشتی وادری صاحب بہتر ہو کے اآپ پہلے میری پوست پڑھ لیں کیوں کے آپ نیں یے پوسٹ جبھی یہاں دی ہے کے آپ نیں میرا جواب پورا پڑھا نہیں جب کے میں نے لاسٹ والی پوست میں یے ہی کہا ہے جیسا کے خلیل رانا صاحب کا اعتراض تھا کے تہجد اور تراویح دو الگ الگ چیزیں تو میرے خیال سے پہلے ہم یے مسلہ حل کرلیں اگر ہم پوئنٹ ٹو پوئنٹ کسی نتیجے تک جائیں تو بہتر ہے، اور رہی 8 رکعات سے زیادہ پڑھنا تو یے بھی ہمارا عمل ہے مگر ہم سنت 8 رکعات تراویح کو ہی مانتے ہیں مگر اگر کوئی شخص اس حدیث پہ عمل کرنا چاہے کہ۔

 

( رات کی نماز دو دو رکعت ہے اورجب تم میں سےکوئي ایک صبح ہونے خدشہ محسوس کرے تو اپنی نماز کے لیے ایک رکعت وتر ادا کرلے ) صحیح بخاری حدیث نمبر ( 946 ) صحیح مسلم حدیث نمبر ( 749 ) ۔

 

اگر کوئی اس حدیث پہ عمل کرتے ہوئے 8 رکعات سے زیادہ پڑھتا ہے چاہے 20 یا 36 جیسا کے امام مالک رحمہ اللہ کا عمل ہے تو اس میں کوئی حرج والی بات نہں مگر اختلاف یے ہے کہ سنت 8 ہی رکعات ہیں، ائر جب تک یہ مسلہ حل نہیں ہوگا جب تک تراویح اور تہجد میںفرق نا کیا جائے،

 

بھائی لڑنے سے کوئی فائدہ نہیں ہے یے نفلی عبادت ہے اگر کوئی اجتہاد کر کے یے سوچتا ہے کے میں رمضان میں رات بھر قیام کروں تو وہ اس حدیث پع عمل کر سکتا یے جس میں 2 2رکعات کا زکر ہے،

 

اللہ ہدایت دینے والا ہے،

 

وسلام علیکم

 

[Qadri Sultani]

Janab Kafeel Ahmed Sb.You are following your Imam Nasir Udin Albani in this topic.He has declared the 20 Rakaat taraveeh as Innovation.(Bidda'a).But in another topic Insha Allah I will let u know that what your Imam is doing with Ahadees e Saheeha.Any Hadees which is against his faith,he declares that Hadees as Daeef and rejects that Hadees.An example of this u can see in the Imam Bukhari's book Al Adab Al Mufrad.But now I will give u the answer of your questions about Taraveeh.Insha Allah every answer of your question is present.

 

Performing 20 rakaats Taraweeh Salaah is Sunnat, and performing only 8 is contrary to it. Insha-Allahعزوجل, we will prove this from the setting of the Holy Quran, Sahih Ahadith, rulings of the Ulama and even rationally.

 

1. The Holy Quran is made up of Ayats, Surahs and Rukus. The article which has been given a name is known as a Surah, and sentences in the Quran which have no separate name are known as Ayats (verses). But what is a Ruku? Surah means something that surrounds (i.e. it surrounds one subject, e.g. Surah Balad), and Ayat means a sign (i.e. a sign of the power of Allahعزوجل). Ruku, however, means to bend. Why have they been called so?

 

From the books of Qiraat (Quranic Recitation), it is known'that the amount of Quran recited before going into the Ruku position in Taraweeh by Hadrat Umar and Uthman رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ was called 1 Ruku. In other words, it was the amount they recited before going into that position. Based on Taraweeh being read as 20 rakaats, and the Holy Quran being completed on the 27^th of Ramadaan, there should be 540 RakaatslRukus to complete the Holy Quran. However, 557 were appointed because on the last day, many short Surahs are read in the final rakaats. If Taraweeh was 8 rakaats, there should only be a total of 216 Rukus. The amount of Rukus in the Holy Quran establishes that Taraweeh should be 20 rakaats. Can the Wahabies, after accepting Taraweeh to be 8 rakaats, explain the reasoning of the Quranic Rukus?

 

2. Taraweeh is the plural of Tarweeha, which means giving the body a rest. After every 4 rakaats, we sit for recuperation and comfort. This sitting is called Tarweeha, and it is for this reason that this namaaz is called Taraweeh (i.e. the collection of comforts). Taraweeh is plural, and the plural form of a word is used (in Arabic) for a minimum of three. If Taraweeh was 8 rakaats, there should be only one Tarweeha between these 8 rakaats. So, it shouldn't even be called Taraweeh. For three Tarweehas, a minimum amount of 16 rakaats are needed. After every 4 rakaats, one Tarweeha will occur (and there is no Tarweeha before the Witr). Thus, the name "Taraweeh" itself refutes the 8 rakaats theory.

 

3. Also, there are 20 rakaats of Salaah necessary to be performed every day -­l7 Fardh (2, 4, 4, 3 and 4 for the five daily Salaah) and 3 Witt. In Ramadaan Sharif, Allahعزوجل instituted these 20 rakaats of Taraweeh to compliment and perfect the 20 daily rakaats of namaaz." Every rakaat has to be performed. Ghair-Muqallids (those who reject the Four Imams, e.g. Imam Abu Hanifa رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ etc.) probably only read 8 as compulsory Salaah daily. Otherwise, what connection do these 8 rakaats of Taraweeh have with the compulsory 20?

 

TARAWEEH IN THE HADITH

It should be bared in mind that at first, the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم performed Taraweeh Salaah with jamaat (congregation), but after performing it for two days, he said, "If I regularly perform Taraweeh, I fear it becoming Fardh, and this will be difficult on my Ummah. For this reason, you people perform it in your homes."

 

Some say that it was Tahajjud Salaah which was performed in Ramadaan with much preparation. This is why the Sahaaba used to complete it at the end-time of Sehri. In the time of Hadrat Abu Bakr Siddique رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ, still no formal arrangement was made for Taraweeh, and people used to read it individually. It was Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہwho was responsible for formalizing this Salaah and appointing 20 rakaats to it. He also arranged it to be performed with jamaat. Thus, it is correct that the Taraweeh Salaah is the Sunnah of Sayyiduna Rasoolullah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم but its formal jamaat is the Sunnah of Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ. The Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم didn't order 8 rakaats to be performed nor did he regulate that many. In truth, 8 rakaats being performed by him is not explicitly proven anywhere, and so is it the agreement of the Sahaaba that 20 rakaats is not against the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم. We have been commanded, “علیکم بسنتی وسنۃ الخلفاء الرشدین”-Hadtth Sharif

 

Thus, we now present the practices of the Sahaaba, Ghair-Muqallids must produce a Sahih, Marfoo Hadith that explicitly establishes Taraweeh being 8 rakaats. Insha-Allah, they will never be able to do so. Now follows our Ahadith,

 

1. Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ formally organized and instituted 20 rakaats of Taraweeh with jamaat in his Khilaafat, and the Sahaaba agreed (ijrnaa) on this. Hadrat Saib ibn Yazid رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ states, “قال کنا نقوم فی عھد عمر بعشرین رکعۃرواہ البیھقی فی المعرفۃ باسناد صحیح” Mu'atta Imam Maalik رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ

 

2. Ibn Manee رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ reports from Hadrat Ubai ibn Ka'ab رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ “فصلّٰی بھم عشرین رکعۃ”.

 

3. Baihaqi states, “عن ابی الحسناء ان علی ابن ابی طالب امر رجلا یصلی بالناس خمس ترویحات عشرین رکعۃ”.

 

4. Ibn Abi Shaiba رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ, T'ibrani in Kabeer and Baihaqi record, “عن ابن عباس ان النبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کان یصلی فی رمضان عشرین رکعۃ سوی الوتر”.

 

This proves that the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم himself used to perform 20 rakaats of Taraweeh.

 

5. Baihaqi has the following, “وعن ابن شکل وکان من اصحاب علی انہ کان یومھم فی شھر رمضان فیصلی خمس ترویحات عشرین رکعات”.

 

6. The same book further states, “وعن ابی عبدالرحمٰن السلمی ان علیا رعی القراء فی رمضان فامر رجلا یصلی الناس عشرین رکعۃ وکان علی یوتربھم”.

 

7. A Hadith with a sound Chain of Narration (Sahih Sanad) is also reported in Baihaqi, “عن السائب ابن یزید قال کانوا یقومون علٰی عھد عمر فی شھر رمضان بعشرین رکعۃ”.

 

 

Refer to Sahihul-Bihaari, Baabu kam Yaqru fit-Taraweeh, for insight into this. These narrations confirm that the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم, used to perform 20 rakaats of Taraweeh, the same amount continued and stipulated. Hadrat Ibn Abbas, Ali, Ubai ibn Ka'ab, Umar, Saa'ib ibn Yazeed رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ etc. and all other Sahaaba practiced this.

 

RULINGS OF THE ULAMA OF THE UMMAH

"The Learned act upon that which is narrated from Hadrat Ali, Umar and other Sahaaba رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ (i.e. 20 rakaats). This is the ruling of Imam Sufyaan Thouri, Ibn Mubarak and Imam Shafee رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ. Who found the practice of 20 rakaats of Taraweeh prevalent amongst Muslims in his city of Makkah Sharif." 26.73a

 

- Tirmidhi, Abwaabus-Sawm, Baabu Maa Ja 'a fi Qiyaami Shahri Ramadaan

 

2. “روٰی محمد ابن نصر من طریق عطاء قال ادرکتھم یصلون عشرین رکعۃ و ثلٰث رکعات الوتروفی الباب اٰثار کثیرۃ اخرجھا ابن ابی شیبۃ وغیرہ و قال ابن قدمۃ وھٰذا کالا جماع” -Fathul-Mulhim, Sharah Muslim, Vol. 2, Pg. 291

 

This proves that it is as if Muslims have consensus (ijmaa) on Taraweeh being 20 rakaats.

 

3. “وروی الحارث ابن عبیدالرحمٰن ابن ابی زباب عن السائب ابن یزید قال کان القیام علٰی عھد عمر بثلٰث و عشرین رکعۃ قال ابن عبداللہ ھٰذا محمول علٰی ان الثلٰث للوتر”.- Umdatul-Qoari Sharah Bukhari, Vol. 5, Pg, 307

 

And this further verifies that Taraweeh and Witr was performed as 20 and 3 rakaats respectively in the time of the Sahaabah.

 

4. “کان عبداللہ ابن مسعود یصلی بنا فی شھر رمضان فینصرف و علیہ لیل قال الاعمش کان یصلی عشرین رکعۃ”.-Ibid

 

5. “قال ابن عبدالبر وھو قول جمھور العلماء وبہ قال الکوفیون والشافعی واکثر الفقھاء وھو الصحیح عن کعب من غیر خلاف من الصحابۃ”.

 

"Ibn Abdul-Bir states that Taraweeh being 20 rakaats is the ruling of the general body of Ulama. It is the opinion of the people of Kufa, Imam Shafee رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ and the majority of the Jurists, and this is what has been narrated from Hadrat Ubai ibn Ka'ab رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ, No Companion of the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم (Sahaabi) differs with this. Umdatul-Qaari, Vol. 5, Pg. 355

 

6. “فصار اجماعا لما روٰی البیھقی باسناد صحیح انھم کانوا یصلون علٰی عھد عمر بعشرین رکعۃ وعلٰی عھد عثمان وعلی”.

 

Mulla Ali Qaari رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ states in the time of Hadrat Umar, Uthman and Ali رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ, the Sahaaba used to perform 20 rakaats of Taraweeh. For this reason, it has been agreed upon (ijrnaa) this amount." - Sharah-Niqaaya

 

7. “اجماع الصحابۃ علٰی ان التراویح عشرون رکعۃ”.

 

Quoting the ruling of Allama Ibn Hajar Makki Haithami رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ , Maulwi Abdul ­Hayy رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ writes in his Fataawa, "There is consensus of the Sahaaba on Taraweeh being 20 rakaats.,,27.1- Vol. 1. Pg. 182

8. “واما القائلون بہ من التابعین فشبر ابن شکل وابن ابی ملیکۃ والحارث الھمدانی وعطاء ابن ابی رباح وابو البختری و سعید ابن ابی الحسن البصری اخوالحسن و عبد الرحمٰن ابن ابی بکر وعمران العبدی”. - Umdatul-Qaari, Vol. 5, Pg. 257

 

These extracts prove that the Sahaaba, Taba'een, Taba-Taba'een, Fuqahaa and Muhadditheen are agreed upon Taraweeh being 20 rakaats. None of them ordered it as 8 or performed it so.

 

In actual fact, Ghair-Muqallids (those who reject the Four Imams) are followers of their lusts and the desires of their nafs. Their religion is that which is easy for them.

 

This is why they read 8 instead of 20, so that they may go to sleep earlier.

 

 

OBJECTIONS AND ANSWERS TO TARAWEEH BEING 20 RAKAATS

OBJECTION 1: Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہordered Hadrat Ubai ibn Ka'ab رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ and Hadrat Tamim ibn Daari رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ to lead people in 11 rakaats. -Mishkaat, Baabu Qiyaami Shahri Ramadaan & Muatta Imam Maalik رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ.

 

This proves that there were 8 rakaats of Taraweeh (the rest were Witr).

 

Answer - There are a few replies to this,

 

1. This Hadith is disordered (muztarib) and you cannot extract a proof from this category of Hadith. Its narrator is Muhammad ibn Yusuf. In the Muatta, the narration is of 11 rakaats and Muhammad ibn Nasr, through the chain of Muhammad Ishaaq, narrates 13 rakaats from this very Muhammad ibn Yusuf.

 

Muhaddith Abdur-Razaaq رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ through different chains of narrations, also reports 21 rakaats from Muhammad ibn Yusuf Refer to Fathul-Baari Sharah Bukhari, Vol. 4, Pg. 180 for study into this. The narration of just one narrator having this much contradiction is known as Iztiraab. Therefore, all of these narrations are not credible and to use them as proof is incorrect.

 

2. Even if this Hadith was Sahih, Taraweeh would be established as 8 rakaats and Witr 3. So why do you perform only one rakaat of Witr? Based on your view, the narration should state 9 rakaats. Do you accept one half of a Hadith and reject the other?

 

3. In the time of Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ Taraweeh was first ordered as 8 rakaats, then 12, and finally 20. After this Hadith in Mishkaat, the following has been said, "In the 8 rakaats, the Qaari (reciter) used to recite Surah Baqarah, and when he read this Surah within 12 rakaats, people felt ease." 27.2

 

Mulla Ali Qaari رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ writes under this Hadith, "These Ahadith have been explained in the following manner, that 8 rakaats were originally ordered and thereafter consensus was reached on 20 rakaats. It is these 20 rakaats which became the transmitted amount of Taraweeh." 27.3 – Mtrqootul-­Mafateeh.

 

4. Taraweeh is originally the Sunnat of Rasoolullah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم while three other things are the Sunnah of Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ.

 

1. To always perform it.

 

2. To performing it with jamaat.

 

3. To read 20 rakaats.

 

The Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم didn't always perform 20 rakaats nor did he order the Companions to read it with jamaat. Now, if only 8 rakaats are performed, the Sunnah of Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ would not be practiced upon.

 

However, if 20 rakaats are read, all will be practiced upon because 8 is included in 20 but 20 isn't in 8. The Hadith states, "Practice my Sunnah and the Sunnah of my Khulafaa." The opposition also performs Taraweeh formally with jamaat whereas both of these things are not proven from the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم at, They are the Sunnah of Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہSo, perform 20.

 

OBJECTION 2: Hadrat Abu Salma رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا once asked Sayyidah Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا, "How many rakaats did the Prophet perform in Ramadaan?" She answered, “ما کان رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم یزید فی رمضان و لا فی غیرہ علی احدی عشر رکعات”. Bukhari Sharif

 

This proves that Rasoolullah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم would ever read anything more than 8 rakaats of Taraweeh, The rest was witr. Performing 20 rakaats of Taraweeh is a False Innovation (Bidat-e-Sayyi'a).

 

Answer - There are a few replies to this as well,

 

1. Tahajjud Salaah is what is being referred to in this Hadith, not Taraweeh, because Hadrat Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا said, "The Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم never read more than 8 rakaats in Ramadaan and out of it," proving that this matter concerns the very namaaz which is read at all times (i.e. Tahajjud), not Taraweeh which is only in Ramadaan. Also, Imam Tirmidhi رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ has written a chapter for this very Hadith named 'Baabu maa Ja'a fi Wasfi Salaatin-Nabi". It is known from this that Salaatul-Lail here means Tahajjud Salaah, not Taraweeh.

 

In the end of this Hadith, Sayyidah Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا asked, "Ya Rasoolallah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم why do you sleep before Esha?" He replied, "Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا my eyes sleep but my heart remains awake," proving that the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم used to perform these rakaats after waking up. Witr should also be performed with these rakaats, which is why Sayyidah Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا was surprised that Rasoolullah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم orders us to perform Witr and then sleep while he used to first sleep and then perform it with Tahajjud. He answered that he has complete certainty that he will wake up. Those who don't should read the Witr and sleep after. Likewise, Taraweeh is performed before sleeping and Tahajjud is read after.

 

2. If 20 rakaats Taraweeh was a Bad Innovation, why did Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہand other Sahaaba authorize it? Why didn't Sayyidah Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا oppose them? What verdict will you pass on all of them? Today, those people who reject being Hanafi, Shafee, etc. perform Taraweeh with Jamaat during the entire month of Ramadaan. Isn't this also a Bad Innovation?

 

If the Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم read 8 rakaats of Taraweeh, he did so only for a couple of days. You [the opposition] perpetually perform it. Who are you to do so, evading the Prophet's صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم Hadith? If you are true followers of the Hadith, perform Taraweeh only a couple of days in the entire month of Ramada an.

 

According to the narration of Tirmidhi Sharif, it is shown that the people of Makkah agreed upon Taraweeh being 20 rakaats and the people of Madina on 41. None of them practiced 8.

 

Are all these people Innovators (Bidaties) and sinners or not? If they are, can we accept Hadith from them? It must be remembered that the narration of a sinner isn't credible. Also, have Muslims in any country performed 8 rakaats of Taraweeh?

 

3. Even if 8 rakaats of Taraweeh are proven from this Hadith, then 3 rakaats of Witr are also established from it. Only then will the amount of It be reached. Why do you then read one rakaat of Witr? Do you do so for ease? The truth is that there is no elucidation of Taraweeh being 8 rakaats anywhere, because wherever the

 

Qiyaam of Ramadaan is mentioned, there is silence on the amount of rakaats. Those Ahadith which mention II rakaats do not refer to Taraweeh's rakaats, but Tahajjud Namaaz. Present a Hadith that clearly proves 8 rakaats of Taraweeh.

 

Insha-Allah, you will never be able to do so.

[Kafeel Ahmed Khan]

Janab Kafeel Ahmed Sb.You are following your Imam Nasir Udin Albani in this topic.He has declared the 20 Rakaat taraveeh as Innovation.(Bidda'a).But in another topic Insha Allah I will let u know that what your Imam is doing with Ahadees e Saheeha.Any Hadees which is against his faith,he declares that Hadees as Daeef and rejects that Hadees.An example of this u can see in the Imam Bukhari's book Al Adab Al Mufrad.But now I will give u the answer of your questions about Taraveeh.Insha Allah every answer of your question is present.

 

Performing 20 rakaats Taraweeh Salaah is Sunnat, and performing only 8 is contrary to it. Insha-Allahعزوجل, we will prove this from the setting of the Holy Quran, Sahih Ahadith, rulings of the Ulama and even rationally.

 

1. The Holy Quran is made up of Ayats, Surahs and Rukus. The article which has been given a name is known as a Surah, and sentences in the Quran which have no separate name are known as Ayats (verses). But what is a Ruku? Surah means something that surrounds (i.e. it surrounds one subject, e.g. Surah Balad), and Ayat means a sign (i.e. a sign of the power of Allahعزوجل). Ruku, however, means to bend. Why have they been called so?

 

From the books of Qiraat (Quranic Recitation), it is known'that the amount of Quran recited before going into the Ruku position in Taraweeh by Hadrat Umar and Uthman رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ was called 1 Ruku. In other words, it was the amount they recited before going into that position. Based on Taraweeh being read as 20 rakaats, and the Holy Quran being completed on the 27^th of Ramadaan, there should be 540 RakaatslRukus to complete the Holy Quran. However, 557 were appointed because on the last day, many short Surahs are read in the final rakaats. If Taraweeh was 8 rakaats, there should only be a total of 216 Rukus. The amount of Rukus in the Holy Quran establishes that Taraweeh should be 20 rakaats. Can the Wahabies, after accepting Taraweeh to be 8 rakaats, explain the reasoning of the Quranic Rukus?

 

2. Taraweeh is the plural of Tarweeha, which means giving the body a rest. After every 4 rakaats, we sit for recuperation and comfort. This sitting is called Tarweeha, and it is for this reason that this namaaz is called Taraweeh (i.e. the collection of comforts). Taraweeh is plural, and the plural form of a word is used (in Arabic) for a minimum of three. If Taraweeh was 8 rakaats, there should be only one Tarweeha between these 8 rakaats. So, it shouldn't even be called Taraweeh. For three Tarweehas, a minimum amount of 16 rakaats are needed. After every 4 rakaats, one Tarweeha will occur (and there is no Tarweeha before the Witr). Thus, the name "Taraweeh" itself refutes the 8 rakaats theory.

 

3. Also, there are 20 rakaats of Salaah necessary to be performed every day -­l7 Fardh (2, 4, 4, 3 and 4 for the five daily Salaah) and 3 Witt. In Ramadaan Sharif, Allahعزوجل instituted these 20 rakaats of Taraweeh to compliment and perfect the 20 daily rakaats of namaaz." Every rakaat has to be performed. Ghair-Muqallids (those who reject the Four Imams, e.g. Imam Abu Hanifa رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ etc.) probably only read 8 as compulsory Salaah daily. Otherwise, what connection do these 8 rakaats of Taraweeh have with the compulsory 20?

 

TARAWEEH IN THE HADITH

It should be bared in mind that at first, the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم performed Taraweeh Salaah with jamaat (congregation), but after performing it for two days, he said, "If I regularly perform Taraweeh, I fear it becoming Fardh, and this will be difficult on my Ummah. For this reason, you people perform it in your homes."

 

Some say that it was Tahajjud Salaah which was performed in Ramadaan with much preparation. This is why the Sahaaba used to complete it at the end-time of Sehri. In the time of Hadrat Abu Bakr Siddique رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ, still no formal arrangement was made for Taraweeh, and people used to read it individually. It was Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہwho was responsible for formalizing this Salaah and appointing 20 rakaats to it. He also arranged it to be performed with jamaat. Thus, it is correct that the Taraweeh Salaah is the Sunnah of Sayyiduna Rasoolullah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم but its formal jamaat is the Sunnah of Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ. The Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم didn't order 8 rakaats to be performed nor did he regulate that many. In truth, 8 rakaats being performed by him is not explicitly proven anywhere, and so is it the agreement of the Sahaaba that 20 rakaats is not against the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم. We have been commanded, “علیکم بسنتی وسنۃ الخلفاء الرشدین”-Hadtth Sharif

 

Thus, we now present the practices of the Sahaaba, Ghair-Muqallids must produce a Sahih, Marfoo Hadith that explicitly establishes Taraweeh being 8 rakaats. Insha-Allah, they will never be able to do so. Now follows our Ahadith,

 

1. Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ formally organized and instituted 20 rakaats of Taraweeh with jamaat in his Khilaafat, and the Sahaaba agreed (ijrnaa) on this. Hadrat Saib ibn Yazid رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ states, “قال کنا نقوم فی عھد عمر بعشرین رکعۃرواہ البیھقی فی المعرفۃ باسناد صحیح” Mu'atta Imam Maalik رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ

 

2. Ibn Manee رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ reports from Hadrat Ubai ibn Ka'ab رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ “فصلّٰی بھم عشرین رکعۃ”.

 

3. Baihaqi states, “عن ابی الحسناء ان علی ابن ابی طالب امر رجلا یصلی بالناس خمس ترویحات عشرین رکعۃ”.

 

4. Ibn Abi Shaiba رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ, T'ibrani in Kabeer and Baihaqi record, “عن ابن عباس ان النبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کان یصلی فی رمضان عشرین رکعۃ سوی الوتر”.

 

This proves that the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم himself used to perform 20 rakaats of Taraweeh.

 

5. Baihaqi has the following, “وعن ابن شکل وکان من اصحاب علی انہ کان یومھم فی شھر رمضان فیصلی خمس ترویحات عشرین رکعات”.

 

6. The same book further states, “وعن ابی عبدالرحمٰن السلمی ان علیا رعی القراء فی رمضان فامر رجلا یصلی الناس عشرین رکعۃ وکان علی یوتربھم”.

 

7. A Hadith with a sound Chain of Narration (Sahih Sanad) is also reported in Baihaqi, “عن السائب ابن یزید قال کانوا یقومون علٰی عھد عمر فی شھر رمضان بعشرین رکعۃ”.

 

 

 

Refer to Sahihul-Bihaari, Baabu kam Yaqru fit-Taraweeh, for insight into this. These narrations confirm that the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم, used to perform 20 rakaats of Taraweeh, the same amount continued and stipulated. Hadrat Ibn Abbas, Ali, Ubai ibn Ka'ab, Umar, Saa'ib ibn Yazeed رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ etc. and all other Sahaaba practiced this.

 

RULINGS OF THE ULAMA OF THE UMMAH

"The Learned act upon that which is narrated from Hadrat Ali, Umar and other Sahaaba رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ (i.e. 20 rakaats). This is the ruling of Imam Sufyaan Thouri, Ibn Mubarak and Imam Shafee رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ. Who found the practice of 20 rakaats of Taraweeh prevalent amongst Muslims in his city of Makkah Sharif." 26.73a

 

- Tirmidhi, Abwaabus-Sawm, Baabu Maa Ja 'a fi Qiyaami Shahri Ramadaan

 

2. “روٰی محمد ابن نصر من طریق عطاء قال ادرکتھم یصلون عشرین رکعۃ و ثلٰث رکعات الوتروفی الباب اٰثار کثیرۃ اخرجھا ابن ابی شیبۃ وغیرہ و قال ابن قدمۃ وھٰذا کالا جماع” -Fathul-Mulhim, Sharah Muslim, Vol. 2, Pg. 291

 

This proves that it is as if Muslims have consensus (ijmaa) on Taraweeh being 20 rakaats.

 

3. “وروی الحارث ابن عبیدالرحمٰن ابن ابی زباب عن السائب ابن یزید قال کان القیام علٰی عھد عمر بثلٰث و عشرین رکعۃ قال ابن عبداللہ ھٰذا محمول علٰی ان الثلٰث للوتر”.- Umdatul-Qoari Sharah Bukhari, Vol. 5, Pg, 307

 

And this further verifies that Taraweeh and Witr was performed as 20 and 3 rakaats respectively in the time of the Sahaabah.

 

4. “کان عبداللہ ابن مسعود یصلی بنا فی شھر رمضان فینصرف و علیہ لیل قال الاعمش کان یصلی عشرین رکعۃ”.-Ibid

 

5. “قال ابن عبدالبر وھو قول جمھور العلماء وبہ قال الکوفیون والشافعی واکثر الفقھاء وھو الصحیح عن کعب من غیر خلاف من الصحابۃ”.

 

"Ibn Abdul-Bir states that Taraweeh being 20 rakaats is the ruling of the general body of Ulama. It is the opinion of the people of Kufa, Imam Shafee رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ and the majority of the Jurists, and this is what has been narrated from Hadrat Ubai ibn Ka'ab رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ, No Companion of the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم (Sahaabi) differs with this. Umdatul-Qaari, Vol. 5, Pg. 355

 

6. “فصار اجماعا لما روٰی البیھقی باسناد صحیح انھم کانوا یصلون علٰی عھد عمر بعشرین رکعۃ وعلٰی عھد عثمان وعلی”.

 

Mulla Ali Qaari رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ states in the time of Hadrat Umar, Uthman and Ali رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ, the Sahaaba used to perform 20 rakaats of Taraweeh. For this reason, it has been agreed upon (ijrnaa) this amount." - Sharah-Niqaaya

 

7. “اجماع الصحابۃ علٰی ان التراویح عشرون رکعۃ”.

 

Quoting the ruling of Allama Ibn Hajar Makki Haithami رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ , Maulwi Abdul ­Hayy رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ writes in his Fataawa, "There is consensus of the Sahaaba on Taraweeh being 20 rakaats.,,27.1- Vol. 1. Pg. 182

8. “واما القائلون بہ من التابعین فشبر ابن شکل وابن ابی ملیکۃ والحارث الھمدانی وعطاء ابن ابی رباح وابو البختری و سعید ابن ابی الحسن البصری اخوالحسن و عبد الرحمٰن ابن ابی بکر وعمران العبدی”. - Umdatul-Qaari, Vol. 5, Pg. 257

 

These extracts prove that the Sahaaba, Taba'een, Taba-Taba'een, Fuqahaa and Muhadditheen are agreed upon Taraweeh being 20 rakaats. None of them ordered it as 8 or performed it so.

 

In actual fact, Ghair-Muqallids (those who reject the Four Imams) are followers of their lusts and the desires of their nafs. Their religion is that which is easy for them.

 

This is why they read 8 instead of 20, so that they may go to sleep earlier.

 

 

 

OBJECTIONS AND ANSWERS TO TARAWEEH BEING 20 RAKAATS

OBJECTION 1: Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہordered Hadrat Ubai ibn Ka'ab رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ and Hadrat Tamim ibn Daari رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ to lead people in 11 rakaats. -Mishkaat, Baabu Qiyaami Shahri Ramadaan & Muatta Imam Maalik رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ.

 

This proves that there were 8 rakaats of Taraweeh (the rest were Witr).

 

Answer - There are a few replies to this,

 

1. This Hadith is disordered (muztarib) and you cannot extract a proof from this category of Hadith. Its narrator is Muhammad ibn Yusuf. In the Muatta, the narration is of 11 rakaats and Muhammad ibn Nasr, through the chain of Muhammad Ishaaq, narrates 13 rakaats from this very Muhammad ibn Yusuf.

 

Muhaddith Abdur-Razaaq رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ through different chains of narrations, also reports 21 rakaats from Muhammad ibn Yusuf Refer to Fathul-Baari Sharah Bukhari, Vol. 4, Pg. 180 for study into this. The narration of just one narrator having this much contradiction is known as Iztiraab. Therefore, all of these narrations are not credible and to use them as proof is incorrect.

 

2. Even if this Hadith was Sahih, Taraweeh would be established as 8 rakaats and Witr 3. So why do you perform only one rakaat of Witr? Based on your view, the narration should state 9 rakaats. Do you accept one half of a Hadith and reject the other?

 

3. In the time of Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ Taraweeh was first ordered as 8 rakaats, then 12, and finally 20. After this Hadith in Mishkaat, the following has been said, "In the 8 rakaats, the Qaari (reciter) used to recite Surah Baqarah, and when he read this Surah within 12 rakaats, people felt ease." 27.2

 

Mulla Ali Qaari رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ writes under this Hadith, "These Ahadith have been explained in the following manner, that 8 rakaats were originally ordered and thereafter consensus was reached on 20 rakaats. It is these 20 rakaats which became the transmitted amount of Taraweeh." 27.3 – Mtrqootul-­Mafateeh.

 

4. Taraweeh is originally the Sunnat of Rasoolullah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم while three other things are the Sunnah of Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ.

 

1. To always perform it.

 

2. To performing it with jamaat.

 

3. To read 20 rakaats.

 

The Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم didn't always perform 20 rakaats nor did he order the Companions to read it with jamaat. Now, if only 8 rakaats are performed, the Sunnah of Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ would not be practiced upon.

 

However, if 20 rakaats are read, all will be practiced upon because 8 is included in 20 but 20 isn't in 8. The Hadith states, "Practice my Sunnah and the Sunnah of my Khulafaa." The opposition also performs Taraweeh formally with jamaat whereas both of these things are not proven from the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم at, They are the Sunnah of Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہSo, perform 20.

 

OBJECTION 2: Hadrat Abu Salma رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا once asked Sayyidah Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا, "How many rakaats did the Prophet perform in Ramadaan?" She answered, “ما کان رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم یزید فی رمضان و لا فی غیرہ علی احدی عشر رکعات”. Bukhari Sharif

 

This proves that Rasoolullah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم would ever read anything more than 8 rakaats of Taraweeh, The rest was witr. Performing 20 rakaats of Taraweeh is a False Innovation (Bidat-e-Sayyi'a).

 

Answer - There are a few replies to this as well,

 

1. Tahajjud Salaah is what is being referred to in this Hadith, not Taraweeh, because Hadrat Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا said, "The Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم never read more than 8 rakaats in Ramadaan and out of it," proving that this matter concerns the very namaaz which is read at all times (i.e. Tahajjud), not Taraweeh which is only in Ramadaan. Also, Imam Tirmidhi رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہ has written a chapter for this very Hadith named 'Baabu maa Ja'a fi Wasfi Salaatin-Nabi". It is known from this that Salaatul-Lail here means Tahajjud Salaah, not Taraweeh.

 

In the end of this Hadith, Sayyidah Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا asked, "Ya Rasoolallah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم why do you sleep before Esha?" He replied, "Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا my eyes sleep but my heart remains awake," proving that the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم used to perform these rakaats after waking up. Witr should also be performed with these rakaats, which is why Sayyidah Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا was surprised that Rasoolullah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم orders us to perform Witr and then sleep while he used to first sleep and then perform it with Tahajjud. He answered that he has complete certainty that he will wake up. Those who don't should read the Witr and sleep after. Likewise, Taraweeh is performed before sleeping and Tahajjud is read after.

 

2. If 20 rakaats Taraweeh was a Bad Innovation, why did Hadrat Umar رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہand other Sahaaba authorize it? Why didn't Sayyidah Aisha رضی اللہ تعالٰی عنہا oppose them? What verdict will you pass on all of them? Today, those people who reject being Hanafi, Shafee, etc. perform Taraweeh with Jamaat during the entire month of Ramadaan. Isn't this also a Bad Innovation?

 

If the Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم read 8 rakaats of Taraweeh, he did so only for a couple of days. You [the opposition] perpetually perform it. Who are you to do so, evading the Prophet's صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم Hadith? If you are true followers of the Hadith, perform Taraweeh only a couple of days in the entire month of Ramada an.

 

According to the narration of Tirmidhi Sharif, it is shown that the people of Makkah agreed upon Taraweeh being 20 rakaats and the people of Madina on 41. None of them practiced 8.

 

Are all these people Innovators (Bidaties) and sinners or not? If they are, can we accept Hadith from them? It must be remembered that the narration of a sinner isn't credible. Also, have Muslims in any country performed 8 rakaats of Taraweeh?

 

3. Even if 8 rakaats of Taraweeh are proven from this Hadith, then 3 rakaats of Witr are also established from it. Only then will the amount of It be reached. Why do you then read one rakaat of Witr? Do you do so for ease? The truth is that there is no elucidation of Taraweeh being 8 rakaats anywhere, because wherever the

 

Qiyaam of Ramadaan is mentioned, there is silence on the amount of rakaats. Those Ahadith which mention II rakaats do not refer to Taraweeh's rakaats, but Tahajjud Namaaz. Present a Hadith that clearly proves 8 rakaats of Taraweeh.

 

Insha-Allah, you will never be able to do so.

 

 

 

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سم اللہ الرحمن الرحیم

اسلام علیکم

جناب چشتی قادری صاحب؛ بہتر ہے کہ آپ ادھر اردو میں ہی بات کریں مگر یے آپ کی بدقسمتی ہے کے جس ویب سائت سے آپ یے کوپی کر ریے ہیں وہ انگلش میںہے برائے مہربانی اگر انگلش میں ہی کرنا ہے تو انگلش سیکشن میں جائیں۔

 

اور ویسے بھی ہمیں انگلش نہیں آتی ۔۔

 

وسلام علیکم

 

[Qadri Sultani]

Janab bad qismati aap ke keh aap yeh sab nahi samaj saktay kyon keh aap k har sawal ka jawab yahan mojood hay... Aur apnay Nadir Ud Din Albani ke bat ko chor kar zara Ahadees e Saheeha ke taraf daikhain.

khair Janab Khaleel Rana Sb.khana puri karain gay aap ke.Intizar farmayn aap....

[MOUWAHID]

 

In sab ka jawab main nay Mirza Qadiani waalay topic main day dia hai.......

[Qadri Sultani]

Janab apna aitraz daikhain aur baqi Ahadees b daikhain.Aap k nazdeek yeh sab b Zaeef hon ge.(Albani ke tarah jo b Hadees Sharif apnay maslak k againt nazar aay us ko zaeef keh kar khatam kar do)....Sharam tum ko magar nahi aaty

[MOUWAHID]

Janab apna aitraz daikhain aur baqi Ahadees b daikhain.Aap k nazdeek yeh sab b Zaeef hon ge.(Albani ke tarah jo b Hadees Sharif apnay maslak k againt nazar aay us ko zaeef keh kar khatam kar do)....Sharam tum ko magar nahi aaty

 

 

 

 

Aur agar yehi baat main tum logoon say kahoon?

[Kafeel Ahmed Khan]

Janab bad qismati aap ke keh aap yeh sab nahi samaj saktay kyon keh aap k har sawal ka jawab yahan mojood hay... Aur apnay Nadir Ud Din Albani ke bat ko chor kar zara Ahadees e Saheeha ke taraf daikhain.

khair Janab Khaleel Rana Sb.khana puri karain gay aap ke.Intizar farmayn aap....

[Qadri Sultani]

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