FaizaneAttar مراسلہ: 19 اگست 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 19 اگست 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) ye book, jis mei Molvi Zikariya Kandhalvi nei ye iqraar kia hai k sab se behtar durood "Assala-to-wassalam o alaeka Ya Rasool-lallah" hai, shuroo mei Tableeghi Nisaab k naam se publish hoi thi....... phir inn logou nei iss ka naam change ker k "Fazail-e-A'maal" kerdia lekin iss mei se Fazail-e-Durood Shareef ka poora chapter khatam kerdia tha. thoray dinou pehlay meray haath mei inn ki Fazail-e-A'maal book aii. Mei nei dekha k iss mei Fazail-e-Durood Shareef ka chapter bhi shaamil hai. Aur wo ibaartein bhi mujhe miliii jis mei Molvi Zikariya nei likha hai k sab se behtar durood "Assala-to-wassalam o alaeka Ya Rasool-lallah" hai. Aap dostou ki maaloomat mei izafay k lya aur inn logou ki munafiqat aap ko dikhanay k lya mei nei uss chapter k kuch pages scan kerdiay hain. Wo kehtay hain naa k jab tab Sayaaq-o-Sabaaq samajh mei naa aaey to asal ibaarat ka mafhoom nahi samajh saktay. App khud perhein k jo riwayatein Faizan-e-Durood Shareef k hawalay se ham suntay chalay aarahay hain wohi riwayatein iss kitab mei mojood hain. to phir ye deobandi wahabi kis ki maantay hain jab k khud apne molvi ki nahi maantay. Kya ye shaitan k muqallid to nahi. khud ko ghair-muqallid kehtay hain. Edited 15 اکتوبر 2008 by Sybarite Images Resized. Plz Scan Images on 50% in Size. Its not Ismail Dehalvi, its Zikariya Kandhalvi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Shahzad مراسلہ: 20 اگست 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 20 اگست 2008 Janaab inn scan pages mai mujhai Ismail Dehlvi Ka Aitaraf nahi milaa!!! Quote ""ye book, jis mei Molvi Ismail Dhelvi nei ye iqraar kia hai k sab se behtar durood "Assala-to-wassalam o alaeka Ya Rasool-lallah" hai"" Shiad scan image kai size kee wajha sai talaash nahi ker piya...app pg number ka reference mention ker dain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.M.Shariq مراسلہ: 21 اگست 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 21 اگست 2008 Assalam-o-Alekom.. bhaio aap say kis ny keh diya k ham Ye durood Parhna Jaiz nahi samaghte?...... ham bhi ye durood parh lete hain albata aqeeda yeh hota hai k Farishte Aap S.A.W ko durood pohonchatehain hamara..... jesa k hadees sy bhi sabit hota hai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabia101saeed مراسلہ: 25 اکتوبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 25 اکتوبر 2008 Assalam-o-alaikum FAZAIL-E-DUROD SHAREEF ka jo chapter ap nay post kia hay ye incomplete hay.. plz is k jo page missing hayn woh bhi scan karayn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sag-e-Raza مراسلہ: 26 اکتوبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 اکتوبر 2008 masha ALLAH,, faizneattar bhai,, zabardast post hai,,,,,,,,,,lakin aik baat hai,, app jitnee marzee prove lay ayean,, yea deobandi nahee manay gay,, kion kah yea sick hain,, bamar hai,, jab koi baat sabit ho jatee hai, to yea pher ayen bayeen sahyeen karna shoru kar datay hain,, nahee jee matlab yea tha, matlab woo tah, is kism ki batain kareen gay,, ,,,,, aur jahan tak main in logoon ko samjah hoon, in kay liay yea fiqra bilkul fit aata hai,, ,,,,,,,,,,kah sharam tu ko magar nahee atee ,,,,,,,, hain na ,,,,,ALLAH inay hadith day,,,,,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya-rasool-madad مراسلہ: 27 اکتوبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 27 اکتوبر 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) rasool ki mushkil kushie chek attach file.................but munafiq nahi many gay.....q.........jhooto py rab ki lannat hai Edited 28 اکتوبر 2008 by Ya Mohammadah Image Rescaled for best view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghulam E Mustafa مراسلہ: 27 اکتوبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 27 اکتوبر 2008 Molvi Zikariya Kandhalvi nei Fazail-e-Amaal (Old) mein bhi yeh iqrar kia hai k sab se behtar durood "Assala-to-wassalam o alaeka Ya Rasool-lallah" hai... aur aik Naat bhi di hai jiss mein Ya Nabi Allah ke alfaaz mojood hain aur yeh Fazail-e-Amaal meray pass mojood hai but New Fazail-e-Amaal mein say unhon ne yeh Baab hee khatam kar diya hai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya-rasool-madad مراسلہ: 28 اکتوبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 28 اکتوبر 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) Molvi Zikariya Kandhalvi nei Fazail-e-Amaal (Old) mein bhi yeh iqrar kia hai k sab se behtar durood "Assala-to-wassalam o alaeka Ya Rasool-lallah" hai... aur aik Naat bhi di hai jiss mein Ya Nabi Allah ke alfaaz mojood hain aur yeh Fazail-e-Amaal meray pass mojood hai but New Fazail-e-Amaal mein say unhon ne yeh Baab hee khatam kar diya hai. Edited 8 دسمبر 2008 by Sybarite Attachment removed because of some technical reason. Will be uploaded again shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sag-e-Raza مراسلہ: 29 نومبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 29 نومبر 2008 abb kider gay hain,, saray deobandi,, jawab kion nhaee datay,,,???? isssay kahtay hain,, sunniyoon ki lalkar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peer2009 مراسلہ: 15 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 15 دسمبر 2008 abb kider gay hain,, saray deobandi,, jawab kion nhaee datay,,,????isssay kahtay hain,, sunniyoon ki lalkar Munny jawab denny ke liya bandy ko ban nahi kerty us ka jawab letty hien ager woh haq per he us ko ban na karo ya to 3 warning do. beghier warning ban. loll. ya to daro mat ya himmet rakho jawab sunny ka. werna sirf yahan per eik jawab deta he dosra wah wah kerta . cahly mejawab deta hoon jesa ke mosoof e kaha he ke faziel darood ko kahtem ker diya gaya he tablighi nisab se nikal diya gaya he . essy bat nahi faziel darood ko alg book me cahp di gaye he. woh alg se chupti he. aur darood koye bhi ho hota afzal he he. per her darood ka makhsoos jaga hoti he . hum darood hazir nazir jan ker nahi perhty humar perhny ka aru pa perhny ka lag style he assel baat he darood me akedah kon sa rakh ker perha jaye bat agye akedeh ke pehly aap yeh to sabit ker do ke nabi pak ko nabi ka derja dena he ya ALLAh ka phir bat agy behi gi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirb786 مراسلہ: 16 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 16 دسمبر 2008 Munny jawab denny ke liya bandy ko ban nahi kerty us ka jawab letty hien ager woh haq per he us ko ban na karo ya to 3 warning do. beghier warning ban. loll. ya to daro mat ya himmet rakho jawab sunny ka. werna sirf yahan per eik jawab deta he dosra wah wah kerta . cahly mejawab deta hoon jesa ke mosoof e kaha he ke faziel darood ko kahtem ker diya gaya he tablighi nisab se nikal diya gaya he . essy bat nahi faziel darood ko alg book me cahp di gaye he. woh alg se chupti he. aur darood koye bhi ho hota afzal he he. per her darood ka makhsoos jaga hoti he . hum darood hazir nazir jan ker nahi perhty humar perhny ka aru pa perhny ka lag style he assel baat he darood me akedah kon sa rakh ker perha jaye bat agye akedeh ke pehly aap yeh to sabit ker do ke nabi pak ko nabi ka derja dena he ya ALLAh ka phir bat agy behi gi haan aap darood hazir nazir jaan kar nahi partay danda peer aap mushkil kusha samajh kar parhatay ho jaisa kay apkay dady jaan nay fazail darood main bayan kia or osay underline kia tha ya rasool Allah madad bhai nay aap nay ghoor nahi kia wahan muskilkushai hoo rahi thi. onho nay waszeefa baya kia hai kay jo bhi mundarja zail darood parhay ga onki madad ki jayee gi. ye bhi apkay aqeeday kay khilaf hai . ab dady jaan wali baat ka gusa na kar jana (teacher bhi rohani baap hota hai). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peer2009 مراسلہ: 16 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 16 دسمبر 2008 haan aap darood hazir nazir jaan kar nahi partay danda peer aap mushkil kusha samajh kar parhatay ho jaisa kay apkay dady jaan nay fazail darood main bayan kia or osay underline kia tha ya rasool Allah madad bhai nay aap nay ghoor nahi kia wahan muskilkushai hoo rahi thi. onho nay waszeefa baya kia hai kay jo bhi mundarja zail darood parhay ga onki madad ki jayee gi. ye bhi apkay aqeeday kay khilaf hai . ab dady jaan wali baat ka gusa na kar jana (teacher bhi rohani baap hota hai). Pehli bat to yeh he ke pages ulty sedhy scan kiye hien .yani terteeb me nahi he . mene puri scanperh liya is me mujh ko kahen nazer nahi ya ke hazir nazir samjh ke kuch likha gaya he . yar kuch post kerny se pehly zara tehkeek karo ke kiya kaha ja raha he . aur bina samjhy aker baty ker lety ho aur dosry members wah wah kerty hien es nahi h ota pehly sabit karo phir ilzamat lagao. aru koye ebat nahi mujh ko bura nahi laga woh aap logo ke ikhlaq dekh ker pata chal jata he ke jessy dese wesa bhes. yehkoye naye bat nahihan eik bat clear ho gaye me zati tor per bahtu se dawet islami doston ko janta hoon un ko dekh ker lagta tha ke jessy bhi hein ikhlaq me bahut achy hoty hien per ab pata chal sirf upper ka dikhlawa hota he asel me kon hien yeh log jo yaha aker bakhobi pata chal gaya. keep growing dear. kissi per ungali karo ge baki 4 ungliyan tumahri tarref hi sishara kerti hein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirb786 مراسلہ: 16 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 16 دسمبر 2008 Pehli bat to yeh he ke pages ulty sedhy scan kiye hien .yani terteeb me nahi he . mene puri scanperh liya is me mujh ko kahen nazer nahi ya ke hazir nazir samjh ke kuch likha gaya he . yar kuch post kerny se pehly zara tehkeek karo ke kiya kaha ja raha he . aur bina samjhy aker baty ker lety ho aur dosry members wah wah kerty hien es nahi h ota pehly sabit karo phir ilzamat lagao. aru koye ebat nahi mujh ko bura nahi laga woh aap logo ke ikhlaq dekh ker pata chal jata he ke jessy dese wesa bhes. yehkoye naye bat nahihan eik bat clear ho gaye me zati tor per bahtu se dawet islami doston ko janta hoon un ko dekh ker lagta tha ke jessy bhi hein ikhlaq me bahut achy hoty hien per ab pata chal sirf upper ka dikhlawa hota he asel me kon hien yeh log jo yaha aker bakhobi pata chal gaya. keep growing dear. kissi per ungali karo ge baki 4 ungliyan tumahri tarref hi sishara kerti hein. WAISAY TUMHARI JHALAT KI DAD DAINI PARAY GI MAIN NAY LIKHA THA TUM LOOG MUSHKIL KUSHA SAMJAH KAR DAROOD PARHTAY HOO JO YA RASOOL ALLAH MADAD BHAI NAY PICTURE POST KI HAZIR NAZIR SAMAJH KAR NAHI TUM NAY HI APNI PICHLI POST MAIN YE LIKHA THA (hum darood hazir nazir jan ker nahi perhty humar perhny ka aru pa perhny ka lag style he assel baat he darood me akedah kon sa rakh ker perha jaye bat agye akedeh ke pehly aap yeh to sabit ker do ke nabi pak ko nabi ka derja dena he ya ALLAh ka phir bat agy behi gi) MAIN NAY BHI TU YEHI LIKHA TUM DAROOD HAZIR NAZIR JAAN KAR NAHI PARHTAY BALKAY MUSEEBAT KAY TIME MADAD O DASTAGIRI KAY LEYE PARHTAY HOO TU KOON SI AISI ANHONI BAAT KAR DI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExposingNifaq مراسلہ: 16 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 16 دسمبر 2008 sawal gandum jawab chanan ager jawab dena nahi ata to bahes kiuoon ker rahy hoo jinab pehly kuch sekho phir aker bat karo. tum log to ALLAh ko choro nabi ko chor shiekh qadil jilani se bhi maded mangty phirty ho kabroon ki puratish kerty ho perron se bhi mangty ho. tum kisis eik tahli ke bengun se niklo to bat ho saky . ab bolo ge hum un jessy nahi hien nahi ho to mana ker do Peer2009 apne jahalat ka aur mazeed parchar tum nay kerna hay. Tum apnay baat karo tum Nabi e Azam say madad mangtay ho ya nahi??? Joo topic hay uss par raho .......baqi jo tum apnay abba , amma aur kuffar tak saiy maddad mangtay ho woh tumharay daleel say Poja hoe. kabhe apnay Pir Gangohi ka Marsiya perha hay ...woh perho lag pata jiay ga kay deobandi mazhab hay kiya...iss forum par majood hay jiis par deobandi molvion nay he kufr ka fatway lagai hain. ji dosto me bina kissi dallel ke yeh bat ker raha hoon hoon . me is liya ker raha hoon me kitabon se ziyada dekhny per yakeen rakhta hoon . jo dekha woh biyan kiya kitabien bahut door ke baat he scan ko maro goli ajao practical medane me. Baghair daleel kay isliay ....kionkay Jhoot tu tumharay mazhab ke buniyad hay. Chalo tum "practical medan" sai koi baat dikha do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirb786 مراسلہ: 16 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 16 دسمبر 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) tum log to ALLAh ko choro nabi ko chor shiekh qadil jilani se bhi maded mangty phirty ho kabroon ki puratish kerty ho perron se bhi mangty ho. tum kisis eik tahli ke bengun se niklo to bat ho saky .ab bolo ge hum un jessy nahi hien nahi ho to mana ker do tu kia howa gous abdul qadir jillani rahmat ullah aliah say madad maang kar kon sa shirk kia? acha agar maira ye aqeeda hoo alfaz parhoo phir jawab daina. hum buzurgan e deen ki arwah (baad az wafat) say madad mangnay kay munkir nahi hain. batao kia ye shirkia aqeeda hai? koon sa shirk hai is main? Mujhay tu samajh nahi aa rahi tum hi samjha doo? or baat daleel say karna. Edited 16 دسمبر 2008 by nasirb786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peer2009 مراسلہ: 17 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 17 دسمبر 2008 tu kia howa gous abdul qadir jillani rahmat ullah aliah say madad maang kar kon sa shirk kia? acha agar maira ye aqeeda hoo alfaz parhoo phir jawab daina. dekhin jinab eik to shirk aru us per zore bhi. khud sochy aap keh kiya rahien hien kiya jo is duniya me nahi he un se kisis bhi kiseem ki maded mangi jaskati he.ager han to kis sbina per ager nahi to kerty kiuoon ho. he essi koyee hadith ya quran ki woh ayet . he to piesh karo me to quran aur hadith ke baat mano ga mujh ko aap koye bralvi ya deobandi ki book na dekhana ager quran hadith me nahi to phir sub ghlaet cahyeh woh shiya ke book ho chayeh bralvi ke ya deobandi ki. hum buzurgan e deen ki arwah (baad az wafat) say madad mangnay kay munkir nahi hain. batao kia ye shirkia aqeeda hai? koon sa shirk hai is main? Mujhay tu samajh nahi aa rahi tum hi samjha doo? or baat daleel say karna. ager samjh nahi arahi to islam ka dhong kiuoon rachaya he wohi deen rakhan tha jo tumahry pechlon ka tha hindu madhab kum se kum munafiket to na rehti. han mera akedah sunna he to suno meri jo bhi jhajet hoti he jo bhi musibet atti he jo kuch bhi mangna hota he to me sirf aur sirf ALLAh se mangta hoon. han me mazar bhi jata hoon . fatiha kahni bhi kerta hoon per me direct us se nahi mangta. jo shryaee amel he woh ker ta hoon. yeh he mera akeddah jis ko mery nabi pak (PBUH) ne kiya shaba kram ne kiya taba tabyeen ne kiya oliya kram ne kiya. ab aap pana dekho aur mera akedah dekho umeed he ke ap bajaye kissi biddati ke ya deobandi ki book ka hawala do me pehly keh chuka hoon ke quran and hadith se hawala do to jany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peer2009 مراسلہ: 17 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 17 دسمبر 2008 Peer2009 apne jahalat ka aur mazeed parchar tum nay kerna hay. Tum apnay baat karo tum Nabi e Azam say madad mangtay ho ya nahi??? Joo topic hay uss par raho .......baqi jo tum apnay abba , amma aur kuffar tak saiy maddad mangtay ho woh tumharay daleel say Poja hoe. me ne apna akedah biyan kiya he na. aap maded ko kiss nazrye se dekhty hoo. pehly tum yeh sabit karo munny abhi choty ho in chezon me na perho to acha he me sirf aur sirf apny Rab se maded mangta hon. is duniya me aur han apni nabi pak sony nabi se us time maded mangoon ga jub hasher ka medan kaiem ho ga us time un se ja ker us time maded mangoo ga. yehhe mera akeddah. ab kush ho. aur munna jazbati na ban amma abba samjh aye yeh kuffer konsa lafz howa kuffer se hum kub mangty hien. kuch akkel se kame lo itan jazbati na ban. me jazbati ban gaya to agly din ban. is liya arame se dhery se. kabhe apnay Pir Gangohi ka Marsiya perha hay ...woh perho lag pata jiay ga kay deobandi mazhab hay kiya...iss forum par majood hay jiis par deobandi molvion nay he kufr ka fatway lagai hain. Baghair daleel kay isliay ....kionkay Jhoot tu tumharay mazhab ke buniyad hay. Chalo tum "practical medan" sai koi baat dikha do. dekho ager tum ko practical medan me kuch dekhan he to apna adrese do ya mery diya adrese per ajao dekah doon ga kum se kum ankhon dekah to man lo ge na. bolo kahan aoon punjab sindh balochistan nwfp. bolo shabash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirb786 مراسلہ: 17 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 17 دسمبر 2008 dekhin jinab eik to shirk aru us per zore bhi. khud sochy aap keh kiya rahien hien kiya jo is duniya me nahi he un se kisis bhi kiseem ki maded mangi jaskati he.ager han to kis sbina per ager nahi to kerty kiuoon ho. he essi koyee hadith ya quran ki woh ayet . he to piesh karo me to quran aur hadith ke baat mano ga mujh ko aap koye bralvi ya deobandi ki book na dekhana ager quran hadith me nahi to phir sub ghlaet cahyeh woh shiya ke book ho chayeh bralvi ke ya deobandi ki. Acha mujhay Pahlay hi pata tha is 2 number peer ka jawab kia hoo ga main nay joota pahlay si is kay moon par marnay kay leyee tayaar rakha tha. Acha isay pata bhi hai deogand firkay main bohat gand hai is nay soocha kahin ye deogand maslak ki hi book na dekha day is maaslay par yaar kuch tu aitmad hona chahyee tha tumhain apay molviyon par. magar acha kia tum nay apnay molvyon par aitmaad na kar kay kyn kah tumharay deogandi molvyon nay tu tumharay moon par jootay hi parwanay thay. jaisay ye alfaz jo main nay likhay hain wo tumharay hi molvyon kay hain. pahlay in par shirk ka fatwa lay aao phir tumhain hadees e pak bhi dekha di jayee gi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybarite مراسلہ: 18 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 18 دسمبر 2008 me ne apna akedah biyan kiya he na. aap maded ko kiss nazrye se dekhty hoo. pehly tum yeh sabit karo munny abhi choty ho in chezon me na perho to acha he me sirf aur sirf apny Rab se maded mangta hon. is duniya me aur han apni nabi pak sony nabi se us time maded mangoon ga jub hasher ka medan kaiem ho ga us time un se ja ker us time maded mangoo ga. yehhe mera akeddah. ab kush ho. aur munna jazbati na ban amma abba samjh aye yeh kuffer konsa lafz howa kuffer se hum kub mangty hien. kuch akkel se kame lo itan jazbati na ban. me jazbati ban gaya to agly din ban. is liya arame se dhery se. dekho ager tum ko practical medan me kuch dekhan he to apna adrese do ya mery diya adrese per ajao dekah doon ga kum se kum ankhon dekah to man lo ge na. bolo kahan aoon punjab sindh balochistan nwfp. bolo shabash Ab in deobadiyo ke paas arguments ke tour per yehi batein reh gai hain ke munnay,, bachay... Miya iss chichoor'panay se bahir aa kar kuch ilmi dalail paish kar ke apni ilmi auqaat ka muzahira kijiye. Acha ab ye batao jo dunya mein Allah ke ilawa kisi aur se madad mangay tu woh kiya hai? Like kisi se ye samajh kar madad maangay ke ye apni zaat se nahi balkay Allah ki ataa se madad karein gay tu phir woh theek karta hai ya nahi? Agar theek nahi tu phir woh kya hai, muslim ya mushrik. Aur janab ye deoband ka akhara nahi jaha mullay bhainsay aur saandh banay aik doosray se lartay rahein. So ainda iss qism ki dhamiya denay se perhaiz kijiye ga warna majbooran aap ko yaha tashreef le jana paray ga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peer2009 مراسلہ: 18 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 18 دسمبر 2008 Ab in deobadiyo ke paas arguments ke tour per yehi batein reh gai hain ke munnay,, bachay... Miya iss chichoor'panay se bahir aa kar kuch ilmi dalail paish kar ke apni ilmi auqaat ka muzahira kijiye. Acha ab ye batao jo dunya mein Allah ke ilawa kisi aur se madad mangay tu woh kiya hai? Like kisi se ye samajh kar madad maangay ke ye apni zaat se nahi balkay Allah ki ataa se madad karein gay tu phir woh theek karta hai ya nahi? Agar theek nahi tu phir woh kya hai, muslim ya mushrik. Aur janab ye deoband ka akhara nahi jaha mullay bhainsay aur saandh banay aik doosray se lartay rahein. So ainda iss qism ki dhamiya denay se perhaiz kijiye ga warna majbooran aap ko yaha tashreef le jana paray ga. eik maded hoti he dunyavi eik maded hoti he ghiebani. duniyavi maded ke liya jessy ayr meri gari pahns gaye he is ko dhaka deny me maded karo . etc. iek maded hoti jessy jahad me jany ke liya YAllah to huamri maded ferma interview keliya jarahien hien to ALLAh maded etc. is ko aap kiya sabit kerna chathy hien . me ne kaha he. duniyavi maded ke liya hum ne makhlook ka sahara lya koye buri bat nahi kiuon makhlooq zinda he woh maded humari onthe spot khelaye jaye gi. aru woh maded jis ki sirf ALLAh pak hi ker sakta he woh ho ghi geibana maded. me ne pehly bhi kaha ke yeh he akedha ahle haq ka. ab yat to aap log eik se maded mango aap yalaah ya rasolellah ya ghose azaazm ya ali. kitnio ko khuda bana dala a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybarite مراسلہ: 18 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 18 دسمبر 2008 eik maded hoti he dunyavi eik maded hoti he ghiebani. duniyavi maded ke liya jessy ayr meri gari pahns gaye he is ko dhaka deny me maded karo . etc. iek maded hoti jessy jahad me jany ke liya YAllah to huamri maded ferma interview keliya jarahien hien to ALLAh maded etc. is ko aap kiya sabit kerna chathy hien . me ne kaha he. duniyavi maded ke liya hum ne makhlook ka sahara lya koye buri bat nahi kiuon makhlooq zinda he woh maded humari onthe spot khelaye jaye gi. aru woh maded jis ki sirf ALLAh pak hi ker sakta he woh ho ghi geibana maded. me ne pehly bhi kaha ke yeh he akedha ahle haq ka. ab yat to aap log eik se maded mango aap yalaah ya rasolellah ya ghose azaazm ya ali. kitnio ko khuda bana dala a Chaliye aap dunyawi mamlaat mein makhlooq se madad lene ke qayl hain. Iss ke jawaz mein koi daleel hai aap ke paas ke dunyawi mamlaat mein makhlooq se madad lena kyu jayaz hai. Kya dunyawi mamlaat mein Allah madad karnay ki qudrat nahi rakhta? Zahir hai Allah her cheez per qadir hai tu phir dunyawi mamlaat mein bhi makhlooq se madad kyu? Iss ke jawaz mein ab aap daleel paish karein Quran-o-Hadith se. Ab aiye Ghaibi Imdaad se. Aap ne kaha ke jaisay jihad per jatay huway kehna ke Ya Allah Madad, tu matlab aap ke nazdeek jihad kartay huway Allah ke siwa kisi aur ko madad ke liye pukarna shirk hai. Ab agar Jihad mein koi Sahabi kahay "Ya Muhammadah" jis ke arabi mein maani hai "Ya Muhammad Madad" tu woh sahabi kya mushrik huway? Mazeed aap ke jin Ulema-e-Deoband ne Auliya Allah se madad mangnay ko jayaz likha hai unhay aap kya samajhtay hain, muslaman ya mushrik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirb786 مراسلہ: 18 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 18 دسمبر 2008 eik maded hoti he dunyavi eik maded hoti he ghiebani. duniyavi maded ke liya jessy ayr meri gari pahns gaye he is ko dhaka deny me maded karo . etc. iek maded hoti jessy jahad me jany ke liya YAllah to huamri maded ferma interview keliya jarahien hien to ALLAh maded etc. is ko aap kiya sabit kerna chathy hien . me ne kaha he. duniyavi maded ke liya hum ne makhlook ka sahara lya koye buri bat nahi kiuon makhlooq zinda he woh maded humari onthe spot khelaye jaye gi. aru woh maded jis ki sirf ALLAh pak hi ker sakta he woh ho ghi geibana maded. me ne pehly bhi kaha ke yeh he akedha ahle haq ka. ab yat to aap log eik se maded mango aap yalaah ya rasolellah ya ghose azaazm ya ali. kitnio ko khuda bana dala a 2 NUMBER PEER TAIREE TU JAHALAT PAHLAY HI DIN SAY AYAN THI AAJ TU NAY OS PAR STAMP BHI LAGA DI. TUM NAY LAGTA HAI APNAY DADY JAAN KI BOOK KA YE POORA PAGE PARHA HI NAHI WO KIA LIKHTA HAI. KAY MADAD KAY MASLAY MAIN DEOGANDYON KA OR AHL-E-SUNNAT KA AQEEDA AIK SAA HAI PHIR PAGE KAY AAKHIR MAIN LIKHTA HAI KAH HUM BUZURGAN E DIN KI ARWAH SAY MADAD MANGNAY KAY MUNKIR NAHI HAIN.ROH AGAR DEOGANDI KI HOO TU KOI SHIRK NAHI WAH RAY TAIRA INSAAF. TAIRAY DADY JAAN YE COMMIT KAR CHUKAY HAIN KAH WO AHLE SUNNAT NAHI DEOGANDI HAIN. OR ALHAMDULILAH HAMAIN AHLE SUNNAT KAHTAY HAIN. OR YE BHI KAHTAY HAIN MADAD MANGNAY MAIN AQEEDA AHLE SUNNAT JAISA HAI OR TU 2 NUMBER PEER HAMAIN MUSHRIK KAHTA HAI AB BATA TAIRAY DADY JAAN ZEYADA JAANTAY THAY YA TU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirb786 مراسلہ: 18 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 18 دسمبر 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) HAAN 2 NUMBER PEER MAIN NAY TU AQEEDAY KAY ALFAZ LIKHAY THAY OR KAHA THA ISAY GOUR SAY PARHOO PHIR KOI BAAT KAHNA. TUM NAY FORAN FATWA E SHIRK DIA KYN KAH MAIN DEOGANDYON KI NABZ SAY WAKIF HOON. JAHALAT MAIN TU AKAILA NAHI TAIRAY JAISAY OOR BHI MUFTI BAITHAY HAIN MULTAN MAIN MADRASA KHAIR UL MADARIS KAY MUFTIYAN , DAR UL FATWA KARACHI KAY MUFTIYAN NAY BHI AIK ABARAT PAR FATWA DIA JO APKI FAZAIL E AMAL KI ABARAT HAI FATWAY DAINAY WALOON KO BHI YE NAHI MALOOM THA YE FATWA HUM KIS PAR DAY RAHAY HAIN. TU NAY FATWA BAZAHIR ALFAZ PAR DIA THA OR KIA FARAK PARTA HAI WO ALFAZ KIS KAY HOON AB TAIRAY NAZDEEK YE MUSANIF SAWANIH QASMI MUSHRIK HOWA. Edited 18 دسمبر 2008 by nasirb786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peer2009 مراسلہ: 20 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 20 دسمبر 2008 uff. bhense ke agy been bajana fazzol he aap logon ki samjh me kuch nahi aye ga. bus jazbat me aker pata nahikahan se kahan phunch jaty ho. as susual koy dahng ka jawab nahi dsedha deoabndi tak ja pahunchy aur iek to moon path nasir dady mummy tak ja pahunchta he kiya ap logn ke gher me yeh taleem de jati he ke kisi ke maam baap ko jo merzi keh do. wah miya achi taleem paye he. khier bat aty hien akid per. jub hu Yallah maded kehty hien to ALLAh direct khud nahi ata lissi ke waselly se maded pahunchay jati he. jessy kissi ko nokro chyeh tokhud ALLAh zamin per uter ker aker kisis ko nahi kahy ga us ke dil me peda kary ga. kisi ke zeryeh kame kery ga. yeh he assel akedah.. jahad wali jo bat ke bary seen thonk ekr us time mery nabi pak heyat thy kissi sahabi ne kaha to un ki hityati me kaha. samjh me aye me aja ke abhi ke is time ki bat ker rah ahoon. aru phir aap logon ne wohi bina dalllel ke bat ke mujh ko kehty ho ke dallel se bat karo apa lgon per choot he kiya. umeed he ke sirf mujh per hi bat ho mery maa ya baap per koye bat na ho to acha he werna me samjhoon ga ke app logo ke taleem essy he he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirb786 مراسلہ: 20 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 20 دسمبر 2008 uff. bhense ke agy been bajana fazzol he aap logon ki samjh me kuch nahi aye ga. bus jazbat me aker pata nahikahan se kahan phunch jaty ho. as susual koy dahng ka jawab nahi dsedha deoabndi tak ja pahunchy aur iek to moon path nasir dady mummy tak ja pahunchta he kiya ap logn ke gher me yeh taleem de jati he ke kisi ke maam baap ko jo merzi keh do. wah miya achi taleem paye he. khier bat aty hien akid per. jub hu Yallah maded kehty hien to ALLAh direct khud nahi ata lissi ke waselly se maded pahunchay jati he. jessy kissi ko nokro chyeh tokhud ALLAh zamin per uter ker aker kisis ko nahi kahy ga us ke dil me peda kary ga. kisi ke zeryeh kame kery ga. yeh he assel akedah.. jahad wali jo bat ke bary seen thonk ekr us time mery nabi pak heyat thy kissi sahabi ne kaha to un ki hityati me kaha. samjh me aye me aja ke abhi ke is time ki bat ker rah ahoon. aru phir aap logon ne wohi bina dalllel ke bat ke mujh ko kehty ho ke dallel se bat karo apa lgon per choot he kiya. umeed he ke sirf mujh per hi bat ho mery maa ya baap per koye bat na ho to acha he werna me samjhoon ga ke app logo ke taleem essy he he. 2 NUMBER PEER SAHAB. I AM SORRY APKO BURA LAGA BAAP WALI BAAT KA DAIKHYEE WO MAIN NAY IS LYE LIKHA TEACHER ROHANI BAAP HI HOTA HAI MAYB AAP KUCH OR SAMJHAY. CHALYEE AB AISI BAAT NAHI KAROON GA JIS SAY AAPKO DUKH HOO. MAIRA AIK HI QUESTION HAI AAP KAY BUZURG KAY BARAY MAIN APKA KA KIA KHEYAL HAI WO INSAAN KAY MARNAY KAY BAAD ON SAY MADAD KAY QAYEL HAIN. AB WO MUSHRIK HAIN YA NAHI? BUS ISKA JAWAB DAY DAIN. BOHAT MAHRBANI HO GI. SAB SAY PAHLAY APNA AQEEDA THIK KAROO DEOBANDYON KAY AQEEDAY KAY MUTABIK ALLAH AZWAJAL HAZIR NAZIR HAI. HAR JAGA MOOJOOD HAI. JABKAY GHAIR MUQALID / WAHABIYON KAY NAZDEEK ALLAH AZWAJAL ASMAN PAR KURSI (CHAIR) PAR BAITHA HAI. OR KURSI OS SAY 4 FINGURE BHI BARI NAHI (TAFSIR E WAHEEDI : ALLAMA WAHEED UZ ZAMAN GHAIR MUQALID WAHABI ALIM) TU AAPP NAY ASMAN SAY NEECHAY UTRNAY WALI BAAT KI TU IS MAIN BOHAT SAY KHATRAAT HAIN. 1. ALLAH AZWAJAL ASMAN PAR HAI. JABKAY ASMAAN BHI MAKHLOOK HAI OR OSKA KHALIQ ALLAH HAI. OR JAB ASMAN NAHI THA TAB MOUAMLA KIA THA? 2. IS SAY NAQAL O HARKAT BHI SABIT HOTI HAI. IS MAIN YE PROBLEM NAZAR AATI HAI KAH APKAY NAZDEEK ALLAH AZWAJAL MAHDOOD HAI LA-MAHDOOD NAHI. (NAUZBILLAH). 3. KURSI 4 UNGAL (FINGURES) BHI BARI NAHI JAISAY AIK INSAAN BILKUL FIT KURSI PAR POORA AA JAYEE OR KURSI INSAAN SAY BARI HOO. YE TU BOHAT HI AJEEB SI BAAT HAI. ------------------------ OR DEOBANDYON KAY MUTABIK. ALLAH HAR JAGA HAZIR O NAZIR HAI. 1. HAR JAGA MATLAB ALLAH JAGA JEHAT KA MOHTAJ HAI.? (NAUZBILLAH) 2. YAHAN BHI ALLAH AZWAJAL KA MAHDOOD HONA SABIT HO GA. (NAUZBILLAH) KOI CHEEZ ALLAH JAISI NAHI. ALLAH AZWAJAL TU ZAMEEN O ASMAN KA NOOR HAI (AL-QURAN). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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