Sunni Tehreek مراسلہ: 20 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 20 جون 2008 Dr Israr Lanti Video OF Hazrat Ali Gustaki: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCqakl9tMp8 Answer To Dr Israr Qtv Insult of Hazrat Ali ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Israr Exposed, By Hazrat Alama Hafiz Muhammad Ashraf Qadri Sahib, Alama Sahib Speaks on the Authenticity of the Hadith of Tirmizi Shareef He used: Part 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUMMdQG2FkU Part 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOEXFOzWQhA اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
سگِ عطار مراسلہ: 20 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 20 جون 2008 Sunni Tehreek Bhayi.... Dr. Pur Israr Wahabi Ko Hadees Key Za'eef Rawi Nazer Nhin Aaye... Jo Sahi Riwayat Shan-e-Anbiya wa Auliya Mein Ho Tu Wahabi Us Sahi Riwayat Ko Za'eef Keh Detey Hain... Aur Jis Za'eef Riwayat Mein Toheen Ka Pehlo Mojod Ho Tu Ussey Sahi Kehtey Hain... Allah Aisey Fitna bazon Sey Musalmano Ko Mahfoz Fermaye... Aameen Bijahin Nabiyil Aameen اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ata_ho_ghame_madina مراسلہ: 20 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 20 جون 2008 ghalibuun yeh batt 12 jun ko bolii gai hay dar se quran mein qtv ki mangement ne appologize kia tu pata chala tha thanx for sharing اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marhaba مراسلہ: 21 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 21 جون 2008 Thanks brother 4 sharing yeh wahabiyon ka yehi hal ha in may to garat nam hi koi cheez hi nahi hoti rat ko FM par b is topic par bat ho rahi thi log buhat hi gusay may thay aur heran ho rahay thay k us ny yeh baat kaisay keh di log na janay us ko kiya kiya bol rahay thay aik wahabi ki call ai us ny barai bay sharmi say kaha(wahabiyon ka to confirm h k baray bay sharm hotay h) k ap is baat par kiyon heran ho rahay ha yeh baat to unhon ny pehlay b kai dafa kahi ha aur wo apni taraf say nahi kah rahay balkay unhon ny book say batai ha us wahabi ny kaha k yeh rawait to tirmazi,nasai,ibnay maja,abu daud aur ibnay kaseer may ha unhon ny waha say bayan ki ha agar ap is baat ko burah kahtay h to phir in books ko b bura kahay is par presenter ny kaha k yeh baat to koi garat wala musalman kah hi nahi sakta lakin us wahabi ko kahnay may koi sharm na ai presenter ny kaha k in books may to asi phir kai ahadees ha jo k zaif ha agar un ko bataya jayae to fasad phal jayay ga lakin hum wo bayan nahi kar saktay kiyon k wo zaif ha lakin wo wahabi na mana aur isi baat par data raha k agar is baat ko bura kahtay ha to phir in books ko b bura kahay is par us presenter ny call drop kar di is say ap andaza lagay k wahabiyon ko is baat say koi dachka nahi laga lagay b kaisay garat ho to lagay wo in may shuru say hi nahi ha bagarti to in ko wirsay may mili ha ALLAH hamay asay gustakho say bachayay AMEEN اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanafi Muslima مراسلہ: 21 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 21 جون 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) Astaghfirullah! In Gushtakhoon ko Allah hi saza de. Gushtakhoon ka injaam hamesha bora hota hai. Thxs 4 sharing. Edited 21 جون 2008 by Hanafi Muslima اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanafi Muslima مراسلہ: 22 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 جون 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) Aslamoalikum brothers & Sisters, please sign this petition against dr israr ahmed, http://www.thepetitionsite.com/3/protest-a...hannel-pakistan App log sab is mein dr israr k against sign karein. Plz Admin i request u k is link ko delete nahi karna.It is necessary 4 all muslims to sign it. AllahHafiz Edited 22 جون 2008 by Hanafi Muslima اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madinah_Madinah مراسلہ: 22 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 جون 2008 ASTAGHFIRULLAH.........!!!! ALLAH pooochy in wahabiyoon sy........ ye saary wahabi (laanatullahi alaihim ajmaeen) hi byghairat hain......!!! MAHFOOZ SADA RAKHNA SHAHA BY ADABOON SY...... AUR MUJ SY B SARZAD NA KABI BY ADABI HO.....!! aameeeeeeeeeen اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madinah_Madinah مراسلہ: 22 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 جون 2008 Dekhiye, aur insaaf kijiye........ kia ye muafi mangny ka andaaz hy.....??? aik baar b ye nhe bukka k me ny ghalat keh diya..........esi muafi apny pas rakhy ye khabees.....!!! isko muafi kahen gy...??? saari duniya thu thu jo kr rhi hy...........isliye zbr10ti ki muafi mang raha hy, sirf duniya me izzat hasil krny k liye.............is k andaz aur alfaaz sy wazeh hy....!! chehry sy laanat tapak rahi hy is k.......... AL AMAAN WAL HAFEEZ...... pta nhe kesy dekhty hungy isy log........!! mera to dil khrab hota hy is lanati ko dekh kr.......!! Pur_Asrar_phikki.wmv اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madinah_Madinah مراسلہ: 22 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 جون 2008 isko dekh k musibat zada ko dekh k parhny wali dua b parh lijiye......... esy gustakhoon sy ziada musibat zada kon ho skta hy........ jinko hr pal AMBIYA , SAHABA, aur AULIYA rahimahumullah ki gustakhi hi sooojhti hy........!!! اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karam Ho Ya Rasool Allah مراسلہ: 22 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 جون 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) sahi kaha madina madina sis ap nay............ is ko dekhnay se mera bhi dil kharab hota hai...............itni to astagfirullah is kay munn pe lanaat pari hui hai.............. allah azwajal se dua hai kay ya allah azwajal.....humain asay ghustakhoon ki sohbaat to door ki baat asoon ka cheraa balkay awaz bhi na sunaana.............. pehli baat ye kay mafi kis tarha se mang raha hai jasay koi ehsaan ker raha hoo............ wesay bhi jin ki shaan main gustakhi ki hai un kay (taya zad bahi) mean humaray diloon kay qaraar,bekasoon kay madaadgar,madinay kay tajdaar is ghustaakh ko kabhi kabhi kabhi nahi maaf karain gain........... ye begairat to kaya balkay begharatoon kay baap hain............is ko dekh kay lagta hai kay lanaat wirasaat main mili hoo.............. astagfirullah astagfirullah astagfirullah.......... Edited 22 جون 2008 by Karam Ho Ya Rasool Allah اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghulam E Mustafa مراسلہ: 23 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 23 جون 2008 Dekh kar acha laga ke Dr. Pur Israr ko QTV say ban kar diya gaya hai but meine suna hai yahi Dars uss ne Peace TV per diya aur uss ko wahan say bhi ban kar diya gaya hai but confirm nahi. But good to see ke abb Hum CHAAND CHEHRA kabhi bhi nahi dekhain gai اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Faiq مراسلہ: 24 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 24 جون 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) Asalam-0-Alikume Do you Know why Allah use the word "Sharaab" in Holy book Quran ? To whom Allah forbit to use "Shaarab" and Why ? After the Announcement by the Allah that "SHarab is Haram from now" from whom houses the revier of drink (Sharaaab) floding in Streets ? Who broken the tanks of "Sharab" after geting these message by the Allah ? Please Answer me all the Question before posting any Jahanami wording. May Allah bless to all of us. Jazak Allah Khair Edited 25 جون 2008 by Sybarite Acronyms like S.w.t/S.a.w are not allowed in this forum. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Faiq مراسلہ: 24 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 24 جون 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) Dekhiye, aur insaaf kijiye........kia ye muafi mangny ka andaaz hy.....???aik baar b ye nhe bukka k me ny ghalat keh diya..........esi muafi apny pas rakhy ye khabees.....!!! isko muafi kahen gy...???saari duniya thu thu jo kr rhi hy...........isliye zbr10ti ki muafi mang raha hy, sirf duniya me izzat hasil krny k liye.............is k andaz aur alfaaz sy wazeh hy....!!chehry sy laanat tapak rahi hy is k.......... AL AMAAN WAL HAFEEZ...... pta nhe kesy dekhty hungy isy log........!! mera to dil khrab hota hy is lanati ko dekh kr.......!! Insaan Galti ka putla hae... Hamm saab koe Allah sae aapnae apnae ghonahoin ke maffee mangnee chaaheeyae... orr Haqq baat ko samajna her Musalman per firze hae... Allah haam saab koe Quraan or Hadith kae aayain mutabiq zindagi guzaarnae ke tofeeeeq dae (Ameeeeeeen). Edited 25 جون 2008 by Sybarite Recurrent attachement deleted / prohibited acronyms. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybarite مراسلہ: 25 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 25 جون 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) Insaan Galti ka putla hae... Hamm saab koe Allah sae aapnae apnae ghonahoin ke maffee mangnee chaaheeyae... orr Haqq baat ko samajna her Musalman per firze hae... Allah haam saab koe Quraan or Hadith kae aayain mutabiq zindagi guzaarnae ke tofeeeeq dae (Ameeeeeeen). Just take a look at the problems of the Matn and Sanad in this hadith; Imam Al Hakem narrated the Hadith among others, and only he went to say after the hadith: "it is authentic, they did not narrate it (Bukhari and Muslim), yet in it there is a disagreement on Ata bin Saa'ib". Dr. Israr said what the Khawarej claimed, who are the core of Nasibi's. And that Imam Al-Hakem after the hadith said: "The khawarej claimed that, yet the hadith (which is authentic in the eyes of the Hakem) states that Ali (Radi Allahu Anhu) is the narrator, not the leader of the salat, and Allah purified him from their accusation". So you see Imam Al-Hakem denounced the Khawarej for that and when narrating the Hadith, which he says has some versions, and the following is the most authentic form: حدثناه أبو زكريا العنبري ثنا أبو عبد الله البوشنجي ثنا مسدد بن مسرهد أنبأ خالد بن عبد الله عن عطاء بن السائب عن أبي عبد الرحمن ثم أن عبد الرحمن صنع طعاما قال فدعا ناسا من أصحاب النبي فيهم علي بن أبي طالب رضي الله عنه فقرأ قُلْ يَا أَيُّهَا الْكَافِرُونَ لاَ أَعْبُدُ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ ونحن عابدون ما عبدتم فأنزل الله عز وجل يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لاَ تَقْرَبُوا الصَّلاَةَ وَأَنْتُمْ سُكَارَى حَتَّى تَعْلَمُوا مَا تَقُولُونَ The hadith explicitly states that Hazrat Abdur-Rahman bin Auf (Radi Allahu Anhu) made food and led the prayers. On that basis Imam Hakem denounced the accusation of the Khawarej that Imam Ali led the salat drunk. Furthermore, Imam Ibn Hajar said: "this story is known for Abdur-Rahman bin Auf" 6/250 Fat'h Al Bari. هذا الحديث صححه الترمذي كما رواه المصنف رحمه الله . وأخرجه أيضا النسائي وأبو داود وفي إسناده عطاء بن السائب لا يعرف إلا من حديثه . وقد قال يحيى بن معين : لا يحتج بحديثه , وفرق مرة بين حديثه القديم وحديثه الحديث , ووافقه على التفرقة الإمام أحمد . وقال أبو بكر البزار : وهذا الحديث لا نعلمه يروى عن علي متصل الإسناد إلا من حديث عطاء بن السائب عن أبي عبد الرحمن , يعني السلمي . قال المنذري : وقد اختلف في إسناده ومتنه , فأما الاختلاف في إسناده فرواه سفيان الثوري وأبو جعفر الرازي عن عطاء بن السائب فأرسلوه . وأما الاختلاف في متنه ففي كتاب أبي داود والترمذي : أن الذي صلى بهم علي رضى الله عنه وفي كتاب النسائي وأبي جعفر النحاس أن المصلي بهم عبد الرحمن بن عوف . وفي كتاب أبي بكر البزار أمروا رجلا فصلى بهم ولم يسمه . وفي حديث غيره " فتقدم بعض القوم " ا هـ . وأخرج الحاكم في تفسير سورة النساء عن عطاء بن السائب عن أبي عبد الرحمن عن علي رضي الله عنه دعانا رجل من الأنصار قبل تحريم الخمر فحضرت صلاة المغرب فتقدم رجل فقرأ : { قل يا أيها الكافرون } فألبس عليه , فنزلت { لا تقربوا الصلاة وأنتم سكارى } ثم قال : صحيح . [ ص: 197 ] قال : وفي هذا الحديث فائدة كبيرة وهي أن الخوارج تنسب هذا السكر وهذه القراءة إلى أمير المؤمنين علي بن أبي طالب دون غيره . وقد برأه الله منها فإنه راوي الحديث . والله اعلم Translation: This hadith is authenticated by Tirmidhi, Abu Dawod and Nasa'i also narrated and in the Isnaad: Ata bin Assaa'ib, and the hadith is not known except from him..! Yahya bin Ma'in said: "his narration should cannot be used as an evidence", and sometimes he used to seperate between his old and his new narrations. Imam Ahmad agreed with Yahya bin Ma'in on that. Imam Al Bazzra said: "we do not know this hadith with a continuous Isnaad except from Ata bin Assa'ib" Imam Munthiri said: "This hadith has problems in its Isnaad and its Matn. With its isnaad, it is narrated from Sufyan and Abu Ja'far Ar-Razy in a Mursal way (mursal is part of weak). As for the problems in the Matn, it is because in Abu Dawood and Tirmithi the one who prayed is Ali, and in Nasa'i and An-Nahhas: the one who prayed is Abur-Rahman bin Auf, and in the narration of Abu Bakr Al-Bazzar: a man was asked to lead and he was not named, and in other narrations: somebody from the group came foreward and led". As you know, difference such as this is called: Muttareb Matn, i.e. conflicting versions, and Matareb is part of Weak Hadith, per the Matn. Then Imam Hakem in Tafsir Surat An-Nisa, by way of Ata bin Assa'ib said: Ali said: "a man from the Ansaar invited us to his home before the prohibition of Alcohol, and Salat Al Magreb came. A man came foreward and led, and hemade a mistake when reciting (ya ayyuha al-kafiroon), then Allah revealed the ayah ( la taqrabu assalata wa ntum sukara = do not pray while drunk)". Imam Hakem said: Saheeh. But as you can easily notice that the hadith says explicitly that Sayyidina Ali was not the Imam, further more, no where does it say that Sayyidina Ali even drank!!!. Now a little about Nasiruddin Albani whom Dr. Israr addressed as "Muhaddis-e-Azam"! A watch repairman by trade, Albani is a self-taught claimant to hadith scholarship who has no known teacher in any of the Islamic sciences and has admitted not to have memorized the Quran nor any book of hadith, fiqh, aqaid, usul, or grammar. Kicked out of rom Syria then Saudi Arabia and lived in Amman, Jordan under house-arrest until his death in 1999. Countless scholarly refutation have been written against Albani's diabolical beliefs. Now let me just show a glimspe of his crap; In his book Adab al-Zafaf he prohibits women from wearing gold jewelry - rings, bracelets, and chains. In Tamam al-Minna he declares that masturbation does not annul one's fast. In five of his books (Ahkam al-Jana'iz wa Bida`uha, Talkhis Ahkam al-Jana'iz, Tahdhir al-Sajid, Hijjat al-Nabi, and Manasik al-Hajj wa al-`Umra) he calls for the demolition of the Green Dome of the Prophet's Mosque in Madina Munawwara and for taking the Prophet's grave outside the Mosque. He declares in his Fatawa (p. 53) that its prohibited HARAM and an innovation to lengthen the beard over a fistful's length and that declares Dr. Israr's beard as HARAM! Go and tell the doc to shorten his beard as his so called Muhaddis-e-Azam said so! For sure Dr. Israr will soon be burning right next to Albani in hell! Edited 26 جون 2008 by Sybarite Updated reply اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Mohammadah مراسلہ: 26 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 جون 2008 sybarite bhai for informative post on this issue... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghulam E Mustafa مراسلہ: 26 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 جون 2008 great sharing sybarite bhai but i think Muhammad Faiq sahib Dr. Pur Israr ke buhat bary fan hain. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubaid-e-Raza مراسلہ: 27 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 27 جون 2008 sybarite bhai.. nice reply. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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