Ya Mohammadah مراسلہ: 25 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 25 مئی 2008 Nasir NoPer sahab (no hurt feelings...) aapky liye ek or hadiya.... http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?s=&...ost&p=22754 اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
سگِ عطار مراسلہ: 25 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 25 مئی 2008 sawal main ye hi likha hua hai key jab ek hi zuban sey taaluq rakhney walon main kisi bat per ghalat fehmi hosakti hai,jab key ap bhi Urdu zuban waley hain or ye attachment bhi urdu zuban main likhi hoi hai.mager is key bawajood ap likhney waley ka nuqta-e-nazar nahi samjh sekey? wo khatam-e-Nabuwat key munakar hain or wo bhi khulam khulla. or Khatam-e-Nabuwat ka munkar tamam Ulama-e-kiram key nazdeek Murteed hai. or is liyain hum namaz nahi perhtey. mager pls ab ap is bat per wo hi purani baton ko na shoro kijiey ga key deobandi bhi is waja sey Murtid or kafir hain waghera waghera. ye bat ho rahi hai sawal key jawab ki ap sirif us sey mutaaliq jawab deney ki koshhish karay. NAsir Noman Merey Khayal Mein Aap Ager Yeh Pages Kisi Bhi Maktaba-e-Fikr Key Shakhs Ko Dikha Dein Tu Ussey Judge Kertey Dair Nhin Lagey Gi Key Aap Ki Baat Ka Kiya Matlab Hai Aur Aapki Baat Dar Asal Ghoom Phir Ker Kin Key Khilaf Ja Rahi Hai... Phir Bhi Aap Kehtey Hain Key Humein Aapki Baat Ki Samajh Nhin Aayi... Tu Aap Ney Maan Liya Key Jis Key Aqaid Ghalat Hoon Ussey Ghalat Kehna Chahye... Aur Uskey Pehcya Namaz Nhin Hoti... Theek... Yahi Baat Hum Aap Sey Kehlwana Chahtey They... Aur Aapko Yeh Kis Ney Kaha Key Qadyani Khulam Khula Khatam-e-Nabowat Key Munkir Hain? Yahan Qadyani Section mein Aik Qadyani Key Kayi Topics Mojod Hain.. Woh Perh Lein... Shayed Aapko Meri Baat Ka Yaqeen Na Aaye... Woh Kehtey Hain Key Aap Aakhir Nabi Hain.. Mager Ghair Tashr'ee Nabi Baad Mein Aasakta Hai.. Yani Jo Nayi Share'at Na Laye... Aur Is Per Woh Quran-o-Hadees Quote Kertey Hain... Pas Aapki Baat Ghalat Sabit Ho Gayi Key Woh Khulam Khula Khatam-e-Nabowat Ka Hi Inkar Kertey Hain.. Aur Aapki Yeh Baat Key Wahabis Deobandis Bhi Qurani Aayat wa Aahadees Pesh Kertey Hain Tu Wohi Kam Tu Qadyani Bhi Kertey Hain... Aub Baat Sirf Itni Reh Gayi Key Aaya Wahabis Deobandis Ghair Muqalid Bhi Bad Aqeedah Hain Ya Nhin... Tu Aap Yahi Topic Kiyon Nhin Rakh Letey... Hum Tu Kayi Baar Aapko Offer Ker Chukey Hain... Keh Aap Khul Ker Samney Aajayen... Aur Jo Aapki Asal Bat Hai Key Barelaviyon Key Aqaid Quran-o-Hadees Key Khilaf Hain.. Aur Deobandis Wahabis Ghair Muqalid Sahi Hain (Sirf Taqleed Ka Farq Hai)... Tu Aayen Is Per Discuss Kertey Hain... Key Kis Key Aqaid Theek Hain Aur Kis Key Ghalat... Aqaid Sey Hi Her Cheez Clear Ho Jaye Gi... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
سگِ عطار مراسلہ: 25 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 25 مئی 2008 uskey Baad Saltanat-e-Usmania.poori history hai ager ap kahin gey to sarey Ameer Makkah key naam apko saal key sath bhej dain gey. ab ager ap ye kahin gey key Saltanat-e-Usmania Barailvi Aqidon wali thi to Usmania Turkey key they kia aap Turkey ya Iraq main kahin aaj bhi Barailvi Aqeedon key mutabiq waha Islam dekha saktey hain? Aapka Test Itna Kafi Hai... Mazeed History Mein Gaye Tu Topic Buhut Peycheedah Ho Jaye Ga... Hamara Dawa Hai Key Saltanat Usamniya Key Wohi Aqaid Hain Jo AhleSunnat Barelaviyon Key Hain... Is Per Hum Aapko Saboot Pesh Ker Saktey Hain... Mager Pehley Chand Mazeed Suwalat.... Umeed Hai Aap Tarteeb Sey Jawab Dein Gey.. tu Hamara Masala Clear Ho Jaye Ga... 1. Qabroon Per Mazaraat Banana Jaiz Hai ya Nhin? 2. Baqi-e-Pak Mein Sahaba-e-Karam Key Mazaraat Kis Ney Banwaye They? 3. Kis Ney Un Mazaraat Ko Dhaa Diya? 4. Jis Hakomat Mein Banaye Gaye They Woh Kaunsi Hakomat Thi Aur Kis Aqeedey Per Thi? 5. Ager Mazaraat Banana Aur Mazaraat Per Jana Barelaviyon Ka Kam Hai (Kiyon Wahabi Ghair Muqalid aur Deobandi Dono Iskey Against Hain) Tu Us Waqt Arab Mein Aisi Hakomat Kesey Bani Jab Key Aapki Pesh Kerdah Hadees Key Mutabiq Aisa Na Mumkin Hai.. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
سگِ عطار مراسلہ: 25 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 25 مئی 2008 jesa key wahabi aqeedey na sirif poori dunia main nazar aatey hain balkey ap ye bhhi dekh saktey hain key 4 mukhtalif Imamo main Imam Abu Hanble key manney waley bhi wahabi nazar aatey hain. Imam Malik key bhi manney waley wahhabi aqeedon key mutabiq nazar aatey hain Imam Shafai key muslak key bhi Wahabi Aqeedon key mutabiq nazar atey hain or sab sey bari baat Imam Abu Hanifa key hi mannaey waley Dewbandi bhi Wahabiat key aqeedon key mutabiq nazar atey hain.ek ghalat hoga 2 ghalat hongey 3 ghalat hongey hatta key apkey hi Imam Abu Hanifa Rehmatullah Alihey key manney waley bhi ghalat hain? Nuqus apney under bhi hosakta ahi jis ko koi talash nahi ketrta balkey apney under key nuqus ko sari dunia main talash kertey rehey hain[/b] Hazrat Aapko Hawalon Ki Baat Ki Jaye Tu Aap Shia Ki Tehreef Ki Rat Lagana Shurow Ker Detey Hain... Aap Ghaliban Karachi Sey Hain Aur Aapki Batein Perh Ker Aisa Lagta Hai Aap Shayed Karachi Sey Bhi Bahir Nhin Nikley.. Muazrat Key Sath... Aur Aap Pori Dunya Key Aqaid Key Dawey Ker Rahey Hain... Irada Yeh Tha Key Aapkey In 6 Replies Ki Her Baat Ka Jawab Likha Jaye... Mager Behs Kerna Fuzool Nazer Aaraha Hai... Jab Tak Aap Saboot Ka Ta'ayun Nhin Kertey... Key Aapko Saboot Kesay Diya Jaye? Imran Bhayi (Jadd ul Mukhtar) Ney Aapko Kayi Arabi Ulema Key Hawaley Diye.. Aap Ney Post Perhney Ki Zehmat Bhi Nhin Ki Hogi... Asif Bhayi (Ya Muhammadah) Ney Abhi Wahabi Ulema Key Hawaley Pesh Kiye Hain.. Malom Hai Aap Is Per Bhi Koi Baat Nhin Kerein Gey... Tu Hum Isey Kiya Samjhein Ilm Ki Kami or Jahalat? Muazrat Key Sath... Is Liye Jab Tak Aap In Suwalat Ka Mukhtasaran Jawab Nhin Dein Gey.. Tu Aap Sey Behs Kerna Fuzool Hai... Pehli Arz Yeh Hai Key Aap Ney Jo Hadees Bayan Ki Hai Khaana-e-Kaba Ki Chabiyon Wali Iska Hawala Bama Sannad Pesh Kerein.. Aap Ney Dawa Kiya Hai Key Pori Dunya Mein Wahabi Aqaid Key Loug Hain.. Apney Dawey Per Daleel Pesh Kerein.. Werna Aapka Dawa Batil Hai. Dalail ka Ta'ayun Kerein.. Aapko Hum Apni Baat Sabit Kerney Key Liye Kahan Sey Dalail Dein.. Quran Sey? Hadees Sey? Ulema Ki Kutub Sey? Tareekh Sey? Jab Tak Aap Dalail Ka Ta'ayun Nhin Kerein Gey... Aap Sey Baat Nhin Ho Sakti... In 3 Suwalat Key Jawabat Tak Aap Sey Mazeed Discussion Nhin Ho Sakti.. Kiyon Key. Na Aap Saboot Pesh Kertey Hain Na Aap Saboot Ko Tasleem Kerna Chahtey Hain... Aur Aapko Pages Ka Jawab Diya Jana Chahye... Wegerna Kisi Key Pas Is Book Ka Jawab Nhin Hai... ... Chalein Net Per Itney Tajarbaat Mein Humein Yeh Situation Bhi Dekhni Thi... Na Saboot Do Na Lu... Aur Baat Bhi Sabit Kero... Inna Lilahi Wa Inna Alehi Raje'oon اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdur Rehman مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Hazrat aap nay farmaya aap nay malysia daikha hai waha 100% wahabi hain tu zara links pay ghour farmaiey ya phir Malysia mai 100% wahabi Meelad bhe manatay hain aap kay khayal mai.. Proof aur wo bhee Amali aap ki farmaish pay aap kay leay chand mazeed tohfay paish hain zaror bil zaror daikheay yei links aur bar bar daikheay kay arab turk malysian kurdish sab apnay Nabi alaislam ka Meelad e pak manatay hain ab aap he bata dain yei sab Ahlesunnat wal jamat hain ya 100% wahabi. Makkah Sharif: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEnn8l87g4U Jeddah: Malysia: Misar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEkdSDou9FQ&NR=1 Iraq: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi3tnFQaoPM Turkey: Kurdistan: Kenya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VjuoH81Kt8 اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybarite مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Office ki masroofiyat ki wajeh se late aya hon iss topic mein... Well Nasir sahab, aap se mera tu sirf aik hi sawal. Scholar level per Syria mein kitnay wahabis/najdi/deobandi/ghair'muqallid hain? Waisay Syria (Shaam) ke baray mein Huzoor-e-Pur Noor ki hadith-e-mubaraka tu parhi hi hogi aap ne. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasir Noman مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 NaSIR PER Sahab (mera irada aapki tanqees ka hargiz nahin ) aapky liye chunki hujjat wahabis hain to ye lo wahabis ke mu se sun lo ki hum kon hain....hum hi hum har dor mein paye gaye ye hum nahin humari jaan ke dushman wahabis khud is haqeeqat ko accept karty hain... hum ye baar baar keh rahy hain key likhi hoi bataon or amali tor per honey main bohat faraq hota hai.likhi hoi batain ager aap amli dekha sakey to..... humain Intezar hai اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasir Noman مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) Merey Khayal Mein Aap Ager Yeh Pages Kisi Bhi Maktaba-e-Fikr Key Shakhs Ko Dikha Dein Tu Ussey Judge Kertey Dair Nhin Lagey Gi Key Aap Ki Baat Ka Kiya Matlab Hai Aur Aapki Baat Dar Asal Ghoom Phir Ker Kin Key Khilaf Ja Rahi Hai... Phir Bhi Aap Kehtey Hain Key Humein Aapki Baat Ki Samajh Nhin Aayi... Tu Aap Ney Maan Liya Key Jis Key Aqaid Ghalat Hoon Ussey Ghalat Kehna Chahye... Aur Uskey Pehcya Namaz Nhin Hoti... Theek... Yahi Baat Hum Aap Sey Kehlwana Chahtey They... Aur Aapko Yeh Kis Ney Kaha Key Qadyani Khulam Khula Khatam-e-Nabowat Key Munkir Hain? Yahan Qadyani Section mein Aik Qadyani Key Kayi Topics Mojod Hain.. Woh Perh Lein... Shayed Aapko Meri Baat Ka Yaqeen Na Aaye... Woh Kehtey Hain Key Aap Aakhir Nabi Hain.. Mager Ghair Tashr'ee Nabi Baad Mein Aasakta Hai.. Yani Jo Nayi Share'at Na Laye... Aur Is Per Woh Quran-o-Hadees Quote Kertey Hain... Pas Aapki Baat Ghalat Sabit Ho Gayi Key Woh Khulam Khula Khatam-e-Nabowat Ka Hi Inkar Kertey Hain.. Aur Aapki Yeh Baat Key Wahabis Deobandis Bhi Qurani Aayat wa Aahadees Pesh Kertey Hain Tu Wohi Kam Tu Qadyani Bhi Kertey Hain... ap bat ko ghoom phir ker ussi topic per ley aatey hain key Deobandi Toheen-e-Risalat key murtakib hain. ye humarey sawal ka jawab nahi hai kio key hum ney ap sey bar bar ek hi bat keh rahy hain or ap bat ko ghoom phir ker issi topic per aajtey hain. apko kaha hey key in baton key Jawabat Ulama-edeoband dey chukey hain apko book ka refrence dey dain gey. deobandi bhi Khatam-e-Nabowat per eman rakhtey hain or Qdyanion key liyain hi Tahreek-eKhatam-e Nabuwwat chali thi shayad ap Molana Yousuf Ludhyanwi sahib sey waqif hoon. or Qadyani ager Khatam-e-Nabuwwat key munkir hain to wo is sey ikhtalaf nahi rakhtey key hum Khatam-e-Nabuwwat per eman rakhtey hain or na hi unhon ney koi tanzeem bani KHatam-e-Nabuwwat ki, wo apney qool-ofail sey apni bat per qaim hain. kher hum ney kaha ye bat mozoo sey hat ker hai is dafa eaitrazart key jawabat kafi hain hum sab key jawabat dain gey mager ahista ahista Aub Baat Sirf Itni Reh Gayi Key Aaya Wahabis Deobandis Ghair Muqalid Bhi Bad Aqeedah Hain Ya Nhin... Tu Aap Yahi Topic Kiyon Nhin Rakh Letey... Hum Tu Kayi Baar Aapko Offer Ker Chukey Hain... Keh Aap Khul Ker Samney Aajayen... Aur Jo Aapki Asal Bat Hai Key Barelaviyon Key Aqaid Quran-o-Hadees Key Khilaf Hain.. Aur Deobandis Wahabis Ghair Muqalid Sahi Hain (Sirf Taqleed Ka Farq Hai)... Tu Aayen Is Per Discuss Kertey Hain... Key Kis Key Aqaid Theek Hain Aur Kis Key Ghalat... Aqaid Sey Hi Her Cheez Clear Ho Jaye Gi... bhai jaan issi liyain hi apko sawal pesh kia hai mager ap pata nahi koi sawal sey hatna chah rahy hain? issi liyain apko ek mukhtalif sawal pesh kia hai kio key jo batin ap kerna chah rahey hain humain pata hai key is mozoo per bohat baat hochuki hai sab apney apney moaqif per qaim hain or ye faisla nahi hota kia sahi hai kia ghalat hai issi liyain hi ye sawal apkey samney pesh hai Edited 26 مئی 2008 by Sybarite Try to complete your reply at once. Posting replies in numerous post in a single day messes up the topic. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybarite مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 hum ye baar baar keh rahy hain key likhi hoi bataon or amali tor per honey main bohat faraq hota hai.likhi hoi batain ager aap amli dekha sakey to.....humain Intezar hai Likhi howi baat agar isnaad ke saath yani deegar ulema ki taraf se mustanadd ho tu infiradi amal se zyada mutabirr hoti hai. Deobandi hazrat ki qabil-e-aiteraaz batein unhi ki ulema ne likhi, unhi ke ulema ne tasdeeq ki, unhi ke makatib ne chaapi! Agar unhay ye ghalti tasleem thi tu phir aisi kitabo ka awwal tu chaapna nahi chahiye tha, agar chap gai aur baad ke logo ko ihsaas ho gaya ke ghalat baat hai tu uss ki tardeed honi chahiye thi jo ke nahi howi. Shia ke mutta ke mutalliq aqeeday se tamaam sunni ikhtilaaf kartay hain. Yaqeenan aap bhi kartay hongay, tu ye aiteraz unn ki kitabo mein moujoud aqeeday per hai. Yaa phir aap ko amli tour per kisi shia ko mutta kartay dekhne ke baad ikhtilaaf hai? اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasir Noman مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Likhi howi baat agar isnaad ke saath yani deegar ulema ki taraf se mustanadd ho tu infiradi amal se zyada mutabirr hoti hai. Deobandi hazrat ki qabil-e-aiteraaz batein unhi ki ulema ne likhi, unhi ke ulema ne tasdeeq ki, unhi ke makatib ne chaapi! Agar unhay ye ghalti tasleem thi tu phir aisi kitabo ka awwal tu chaapna nahi chahiye tha, agar chap gai aur baad ke logo ko ihsaas ho gaya ke ghalat baat hai tu uss ki tardeed honi chahiye thi jo ke nahi howi. Shia ke mutta ke mutalliq aqeeday se tamaam sunni ikhtilaaf kartay hain. Yaqeenan aap bhi kartay hongay, tu ye aiteraz unn ki kitabo mein moujoud aqeeday per hai. Yaa phir aap ko amli tour per kisi shia ko mutta kartay dekhne ke baad ikhtilaaf hai? ye pichhli post sey lia hai ap pehley ye perhley Ap Buzrugan-e-Deen ki books ki bat karty hain yaha to logon ney Asmani books ko bhi nahi chhora or Yahoodion ney or Essaiyon ney apni asmani books main tabdilain ki or logon ko sachai tak nahi pohanchney dia. Humari tarha hi wo log bhi insan they. Mager aaj ap dekh saktey hain aaj asal Aasmani books humarey darmiyan nahi hain. Ager kisi Buzrug Hasti sey mansoob book ko hum ye samjh lian key kio key ye book Muqadas Hasti sey Mansoob hai to bilkul sahi hogi to phir ye bat bhi samney aaey gi key bible main jo chiristen Hazrat Essa Alihey Assalam key ehkamat pesh kartey hain to wo bhi humain manna chahiey kio key wo to Hazrat Essa Alihey Assalam key ehkamat hain? Mager ye humain Allah Taala ney Quraan Pak (jis ko qayamat tak mehfooz rakhney ka waada Allah Taala ney kia hai) main Hazoor Sallaho Alihey Wassalam key Zaryey pegham dia hai kia such hai kia ghalat hai? Or ye silsila waha khatam nahi hua balkey ap dekh saktey hain key Shia Hazrat bhi bohat sarey apney Aqaid ko sahi sabit kerney key liyain essi mohtaram Hastion ki books or un key hawaley deytey hain jo na sirif Shia Hazrat key liyain Mohtaram hain balkey Ehley Sunnat key liyain bhi mohtaram hain. Kia in Shia Hazrat ki books main diey hoey Mohtaram Hastion key hawalon key mutabiq humain Shia Hazrat key Aqeedey ko bhi qabool kerna chahiey ? kio key ye batain Shia Hazrat key mutabiq Muqadas Hastion key irshadat hain or ye Muqadas Hastiyan humarey liyain bhi intehai qabil-e-Ehtaram hain. Sirif ek book hai jo humara eman hai key Hazoor Sallaho Alihey Wassalam key dor-e-Mubarak sey ley ker aaj tak bagher kisi zair-o-zabar ki ghalti key aaj bhi na sirif humarey pas balkey sari dunia main mojood hai jo key Allah Taala ka ek moijza hai. Issi liyain hi ye sawalat ki attachment apkey pas hai key jab sarey log mukhtalif Buzrugan-e-Deen ki books key hawalon sey or ek hi Quraan Pak or sab key pas ek hi Ahadees Pak key Hawalon sey apney Aqaid ko durust sabit karay or Quraan Pak or Ahadees Pak wo Buzrugan-e-Deen key hawaley sab key liayin qabil-e-ehtaram hoon to phir such or ghalat ka faisla kesey ho? is ko in sari baton ko zehan main rakh ker perhain or sochain phir jawabat inyat farmaey . or rehgai bat dekh ker belive kerna ki to is waqat bat horahi hai jo aqeedey Pakistan or India main nazar atey hain wo Arab country main ya or dunia ki country main azar kio nahi aatey? ager poori dunia main barelvi aqeedey key log hain ? to issi tarha nazar ana chahiey jesey Pakistan or India main nazar atey hain ? اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybarite مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Ap Buzrugan-e-Deen ki books ki bat karty hain yaha to logon ney Asmani books ko bhi nahi chhora or Yahoodion ney or Essaiyon ney apni asmani books main tabdilain ki or logon ko sachai tak nahi pohanchney dia. Humari tarha hi wo log bhi insan they. Mager aaj ap dekh saktey hain aaj asal Aasmani books humarey darmiyan nahi hain. Ager kisi Buzrug Hasti sey mansoob book ko hum ye samjh lian key kio key ye book Muqadas Hasti sey Mansoob hai to bilkul sahi hogi to phir ye bat bhi samney aaey gi key bible main jo chiristen Hazrat Essa Alihey Assalam key ehkamat pesh kartey hain to wo bhi humain manna chahiey kio key wo to Hazrat Essa Alihey Assalam key ehkamat hain? Kidher ki baat ko kaha le jaa rahay hain janab. Kis kitaab mein kya tehreef howi kya nahi iss per tu mein baat hi nahi kar raha! Mera sawal sirf itna hai ke Gangohi, Thanvi waghaira ki kitabo mein jo aqaid moujod hain woh sahi hain ya ghalat? Rahi baat tehreef ki tu ulema ke pass kuch kitabo ke woh puranay nuskhay bhi moujod hain jo Thanvi waghaira ki zindagi mein hi shaya howay aur unn mein bhi aap ko wohi kufriya kharafaat mil jaye gi. Chaliye sari baatein choorein. Aap kehtay hain ke agar koi kitaab kisi mutabirr alim se mansoob hai tu zaroori nahi ke woh bilkul sahi ho. Tu janab agar sahi nahi tu phir usay chaapa kyu jaa raha hai? Uss ki tasheer kyu ho rahi hai? Hum jo Gangohi, Thanvi waghaira ki kitabo per aiteraaz kartay hain tu issi wajeh se kartay hain ke even aaj tak deobandi unn kitabo ko inhi ulema se mansoob kartay hain. Ya tu ye kitabein jala kar saaf saaf ailaan kar dein ke inn Ulema ne aisa kuch nahi likha, tu phir shayad aap ki mantak kisi hadd tak sahi bhi ho. Yaha tu maamla ulta hai. Jin kitabo aur jin ibaratoo per aiteraaz kiya jata hai deobandi hazrat uss ka diffa kartay hain! Mager ye humain Allah Taala ney Quraan Pak (jis ko qayamat tak mehfooz rakhney ka waada Allah Taala ney kia hai) main Hazoor Sallaho Alihey Wassalam key Zaryey pegham dia hai kia such hai kia ghalat hai? Chaliye aap Quran-e-Kareem se hi parakh lijiye Akabireen-e-Deoband ki tasasneef-o-aqaid ko. Balkay sab ko chooriye pehlay in hazrat ke Qurani tarajim ko hi parakh lijiye. Ilm chooriye agar thori aqal bhi rakhtay hon gay tu deobandi Qurani tarajim mein kharabi aasani se nazar aa jaye gi aap ko. Or ye silsila waha khatam nahi hua balkey ap dekh saktey hain key Shia Hazrat bhi bohat sarey apney Aqaid ko sahi sabit kerney key liyain essi mohtaram Hastion ki books or un key hawaley deytey hain jo na sirif Shia Hazrat key liyain Mohtaram hain balkey Ehley Sunnat key liyain bhi mohtaram hain. Alhumdulillah aaj tak kisi munaziray mein Shia hazrat ne apnay aqaid sunni akabir se sabit nahi kiye. Kam'az'Kam ye soorat-e-haal Ahle'Sunnat wa Jamat ke saath tu paish nahi aiee. Haa aap ye zaroor keh saktay hain ke Shia iss tarah ke jhootay hawalajaat paish kar ke apnay aqaid sabit karne ke NAKAAM koshish kartay hain iss ke siwa kuch nahi. Deobandi hazrat tu Shias ke hathoo bhi zaleel hotay rehtay hain aksar-o-baishtar. Khud Rasheed Gangohi ka fatwa hai ke Ashaab-e-Kiram ki takfeer karne wala sunnat jamat se kharij nahi (takfeer tu phir door ki baat hai), iss ke ba'wajod deobandis ki SSP naaray lagata nahi thakti "Kafir kafir shia kafir". Deobandiyo ko chahiye ke ya tu apnay akabir mufti ke fatway ko jala de ya phir SSP ko dabbay mein band kar dein. Kia in Shia Hazrat ki books main diey hoey Mohtaram Hastion key hawalon key mutabiq humain Shia Hazrat key Aqeedey ko bhi qabool kerna chahiey ? kio key ye batain Shia Hazrat key mutabiq Muqadas Hastion key irshadat hain or ye Muqadas Hastiyan humarey liyain bhi intehai qabil-e-Ehtaram hain. Awwal tu Shias ki taraf se paish kiye gaye hawalajaat ki jaanch kijiye aya ke hawala sahi bhi hai ya ghalat. Agar koi riwayat hai tu rawi kis qadar mutabirr hai waghaira. Ab shia apnay kisi ghalat aqeeday ko sabit karne ke liye kisi sunni alim ka hawala paish karta hai tu phir 2 hi sooratein hongi. Ya tu hawala jhoota ya layk-e-istadlaal na hoga, ya phir uss sunni ka uss mamlay per aqeeda ghalat hoga. Issi liyain hi ye sawalat ki attachment apkey pas hai key jab sarey log mukhtalif Buzrugan-e-Deen ki books key hawalon sey or ek hi Quraan Pak or sab key pas ek hi Ahadees Pak key Hawalon sey apney Aqaid ko durust sabit karay or Quraan Pak or Ahadees Pak wo Buzrugan-e-Deen key hawaley sab key liayin qabil-e-ehtaram hoon to phir such or ghalat ka faisla kesey ho? is ko in sari baton ko zehan main rakh ker perhain or sochain phir jawabat inyat farmaey . Janab Qadiyani ne bhi apnay aap ko Nabi sabit karne ke liye Quran ko daleel banaya. Apnay matlab ke maani nikal kar apnay aqeeday ko sacha manwanay ki koshish ki, tu kya aap Qadiyanio ko muslim maan lein gay sirf iss bina per ke woh hawalay ke tour per Quran ko paish karta hai?? Faisla tu ho chuka ke koun ghalat hai koun sahi. Quran-o-Hadith aaj se nahi zamanay se mojoud hai. Baat hai tu sirf uss faislay ko samajhnay ki. Aur aap apni hi kahi baat se kyu bhaagtay hain. Aap ne likha ke; hum ye baar baar keh rahy hain key likhi hoi bataon or amali tor per honey main bohat faraq hota hai.likhi hoi batain ager aap amli dekha sakey to..... Tu yaha ager aap amli dekha se kya muraad hai aap ki? Shia ke mutta ke aqeeday ke mutalliq aap ke hisaab se tu mutaliba ye hona chahiye ke Mutta ke mutalliq shia ke aqeeday per tehreeri nahi, amali saboot dijiye! Bilkul ghair'mantaki si baat hai janab. Kitabo mei aqaid moujod aur kitabein jo ki tu chaapi jaa rahi hain iss se barh kar aur kya amli saboot chahiye aap ko? or rehgai bat dekh ker belive kerna ki to is waqat bat horahi hai jo aqeedey Pakistan or India main nazar atey hain wo Arab country main ya or dunia ki country main azar kio nahi aatey? ager poori dunia main barelvi aqeedey key log hain ? to issi tarha nazar ana chahiey jesey Pakistan or India main nazar atey hain? Aap Pakistan ya India ke ilawa Arab mumalik ya deegar mumalik mein kitna time guzaar chukay hain? Arab mumalik mein nahi magar mein ba'zaat-e-khud USA aur London mein Milad ki ba'barkat mehfilay attend aur munaqqid hotay dekh chuka hon. Rahi baat ke tamaam maamlaat waisay hi nazar aanay chahiye jaisay Pakistan ya India mein nazar atay hain tu ye intihai bachkana si baat hai. Her mulk ke apnay qawaid hotay hain aur apna tarz-e-zindagi hota hai. Pakistan aur India mein muslim ki tadaad as compare to the rest of the world kitni hai iss ka andaza aap ko bhi hoga. So Pakistan aur India mein jo hota hai woh yaha ke rasm-o-riwaj aur rehn sehn ke hisaab se hota hai. Yaha masjido mein Imam taqreer Urdu mein karta hai ti USA mein Imam taqreer English mein karta hai. Kehnay ka maqsad ye ke andaz ka badal jana kisi cheez ke na honay ki daleel nahi. Sari dunya mein Milad ki mahafil hoti hain, andaz alag hai. Umeed hai ke baat samajh aa gai hogi. Waisay ye baat karne se pehlay aap ko chahiye tha ke Saif-ul-Islam bhai ki last post per diye gaye links check kar lete. Abhi tak aap ka yehi shewa raha hai ke aglo ke sawal ka jawab diye baghair apni kahay jaa rahay hain. So ab zara ihtiyaat baratiye ga. Aap se Sagg-e-Attar bhai ne kuch sawalaat kiye hain jin ka jawab aap ki taraf se abhi tak nahi aya. Mazeed agay post karne se pehlay unn sawalaat ka mufassil jawab dijiye. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karam Ho Ya Rasool Allah مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 or rehgai bat dekh ker belive kerna ki to is waqat bat horahi hai jo aqeedey Pakistan or India main nazar atey hain wo Arab country main ya or dunia ki country main azar kio nahi aatey? ager poori dunia main barelvi aqeedey key log hain ? to issi tarha nazar ana chahiey jesey Pakistan or India main nazar atey hain ? app ki nazar ager pakistan or india kay ilawa kahin aur jaye to phir hi app ko nazar aye........... app ye link dekhiye saudi arab main melaad ki mehfil hai ager ye bhi ma nazar aye too pehlay apni nazar test karwayee................ allham do lillah sauda arab main bhi bohat baray baray sunni ullama hain mashah allah........ tamam user se meri ilteja hai kay jab tak ye sag e attar bahi kay in sawalat kay jawab na dain in se koi baat na ki jaye........please..........bara e madina............. Is Liye Jab Tak Aap In Suwalat Ka Mukhtasaran Jawab Nhin Dein Gey.. Tu Aap Sey Behs Kerna Fuzool Hai... Pehli Arz Yeh Hai Key Aap Ney Jo Hadees Bayan Ki Hai Khaana-e-Kaba Ki Chabiyon Wali Iska Hawala Bama Sannad Pesh Kerein.. Aap Ney Dawa Kiya Hai Key Pori Dunya Mein Wahabi Aqaid Key Loug Hain.. Apney Dawey Per Daleel Pesh Kerein.. Werna Aapka Dawa Batil Hai. Dalail ka Ta'ayun Kerein.. Aapko Hum Apni Baat Sabit Kerney Key Liye Kahan Sey Dalail Dein.. Quran Sey? Hadees Sey? Ulema Ki Kutub Sey? Tareekh Sey? Jab Tak Aap Dalail Ka Ta'ayun Nhin Kerein Gey... Aap Sey Baat Nhin Ho Sakti... In 3 Suwalat Key Jawabat Tak Aap Sey Mazeed Discussion Nhin Ho Sakti.. Kiyon Key. Na Aap Saboot Pesh Kertey Hain Na Aap Saboot Ko Tasleem Kerna Chahtey Hain... Aur Aapko Pages Ka Jawab Diya Jana Chahye... Wegerna Kisi Key Pas Is Book Ka Jawab Nhin Hai... ... Chalein Net Per Itney Tajarbaat Mein Humein Yeh Situation Bhi Dekhni Thi... Na Saboot Do Na Lu... Aur Baat Bhi Sabit Kero... Inna Lilahi Wa Inna Alehi Raje'oon اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart.Guy.Cool مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) NASIR NOMAN TUMHE ITNE PROFE DIYE GAYE HAIN BUT TUM NAHI MANTE AUR NA HI MANO GE AUR TUM LOGON KI SAB SE BARI PROBLEM HAI KE NAHI MANTE JAB NAHI MANTE TU SAWAL KYO UTHATE HO JAKE APNE KISI DEOBANDI SE POCHO NA......JAMIS ASHRFIA SE YA JAMIA BANORI SE...... Edited 26 مئی 2008 by Sag-e-Attar اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Mohammadah مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 hum ye baar baar keh rahy hain key likhi hoi bataon or amali tor per honey main bohat faraq hota hai.likhi hoi batain ager aap amli dekha sakey to.....humain Intezar hai is se behtar jawab ki aapse ummeed thi bhi nahin...ye to wahi baat ho gayi ki......Amma me manunga hi nahin ki kawwa Kala hota hai....aap ne pehly bataya nahin warna me sary wahabis se kehta ki pehly wo nasir per sahab ko amali taur par saboot dikha dein phir ja kar apni kalam uthayein....kahin aap daby lafzon me ye to qubool nahin kar rahy ki aapky akabir buzurg be sir per ki chorny ke aadi thy bina sochy samjhy jhoot jhoot likh diya karty thy bilkul aapki hi manind.... , ab ya to inko kazzaab likh do ya phir khud kazzaab sabit ho jaoo...now the ball in your court.... HUMY BHI INTEZAAR RAHEGA TERA JAWAB AANY TAK. in do red marked ko kam z kam 10 baar parhiye or apna sir dhuniye اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jad Dul Mukhtar مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 MUJAH SAMJH AGAYA KAH NOOREMADINAH, OR DOOSRAY FORUM WALOON NAY , YA ULLAMA E AHLESUNNAT NAY IN KO JAWAB KYON NAHI DIA. KISI TOPIC PER BAAT YE NAHI KARTAY. QURAN O HADEES SAY YE WAKIF NAHI,RIWAYAAT KO KISS BUNYAAD PER SAHI OR GALAT PAISH KIA JATA HAI YE INHAIN NAHI MALOOM, INHAIN YE NAHI MALOOM JUB YE DEOBANDI ULLAMA ZINDA THAY USS WAQT BHI KAYE ULLAMA NAY IN KAY UPPER KUFUR KA FATWA LAGAYA THA, MUNAZAROON KA CHALLANGE KIA THA USS WAQT TO APNAY BILOON MAIN CHUP GAYE, UB DEOBANDI TAWEELAIN KARTAY HAIN, OR JAHIL JIN KO QURAN O HADEES KA ALIF BAY NAHI AATI WO DEOBANDIOON KI TAWEELAIN SAMAJH JATAY HAIN. YE SIRF HAMARA TIME ZAYA KAR RAHA HAI PEHLAY POST SAY UB TAK ISS NAY AIK POST KA JAWAB NAHI DIA. IN KO KOI IN KI TARHAH FARIG AADMI CHAHIYE JO KAY SATH POORI DUNYA KI SEER KARAY OR IN KO DIHAYE KAH YAHAN YAHAN IN IN COUNTRIES MAIN YE YE ULLAMA AHLESUNNAT HAIN JO BRELVI AQEEDA RAKHTAY HAIN. NOMAN SAAB KO ULLAMA ARAB KAY 56 NAME DIA UN KI KITABOON KAY NAAM KAY SATH. LAKIN KOI JAWAB NAHI, SCAN PAGES DIA IN KA KOI JAWAB NAHI, YOUTUBE VIDEO KAY LINKS DIA KOI JAWAB NAHI, IN KI LAST POST SAY MAIN ISS NATIJAH NIKLA KAH QURAN E PAAK KAY ELAWA KOI KITAB DURUST NAHI UB CHAHYE WO AHADEES KI KITABAIN HI KYON NA HO. YE MUJAH MUNKIR E HADEES HAI. UB YA TO YE ISS TOPIC PER HI BAAT KAR LAY اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
سگِ عطار مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Asif Bhayi, Imran Bhayi, Ahmad Bhayi, Saif ul Islam Bhayi... Yeh Aap Ki Kisi Baat Ka Jawab Nhin Dein Gey.. Chahey Inhein Videos Sey Daleel Di Jaye ya Quran-o-Aahadees Sey Ya Tareekh Sey Ya Mukhalifeen Sey... Shurow Sey Aub Tak Yeh Hamari Baat ka Jawab Tu Kuja Apni Kisi Baat Per Bhi Daleel Nhin Dey Sakey... Is Liye Nasir Noman Sahib... Main Phir Apney 3 Suwal Dohrana Chahon Ga... Ager Aap In Ka Jawab Nhin Dey Saktey... Tu Hamari Aur Bhi Kafi Masrofiyat Hain.. Na Aap Apna Waqt Zaya Kerein Na Hamara... Pehli Arz Yeh Hai Key Aap Ney Jo Hadees Bayan Ki Hai Khaana-e-Kaba Ki Chabiyon Wali Iska Hawala Bama Sannad Pesh Kerein.. Aap Ney Dawa Kiya Hai Key Pori Dunya Mein Wahabi Aqaid Key Loug Hain.. Apney Dawey Per Amali Daleel Pesh Kerein (Jo Aap Hum Sey Mutalba Ker Rahey Hain).. Werna Aapka Daawa Batil Hai. Dalail ka Ta'ayun Kerein.. Aapko Hum Apni Baat Sabit Kerney Key Liye Kahan Sey Dalail Dein.. Quran Sey? Hadees Sey? Ulema Ki Kutub Sey? Tareekh Sey? Ya Kis Cheez Sey? Jab Tak Aap Dalail Ka Ta'ayun Nhin Kerein Gey... Aap Sey Baat Nhin Ho Sakti... Aap Mazeed Kisi Discussion Key Bajaye.. In Suwalon Ka Jawab Dein... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasir Noman مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 (ترمیم شدہ) Aapka Test Itna Kafi Hai... Mazeed History Mein Gaye Tu Topic Buhut Peycheedah Ho Jaye Ga... Hamara Dawa Hai Key Saltanat Usamniya Key Wohi Aqaid Hain Jo AhleSunnat Barelaviyon Key Hain... Is Per Hum Aapko Saboot Pesh Ker Saktey Hain... Mager Pehley Chand Mazeed Suwalat.... Umeed Hai Aap Tarteeb Sey Jawab Dein Gey.. tu Hamara Masala Clear Ho Jaye Ga... 1. Qabroon Per Mazaraat Banana Jaiz Hai ya Nhin? 2. Baqi-e-Pak Mein Sahaba-e-Karam Key Mazaraat Kis Ney Banwaye They? 3. Kis Ney Un Mazaraat Ko Dhaa Diya? 4. Jis Hakomat Mein Banaye Gaye They Woh Kaunsi Hakomat Thi Aur Kis Aqeedey Per Thi? 5. Ager Mazaraat Banana Aur Mazaraat Per Jana Barelaviyon Ka Kam Hai (Kiyon Wahabi Ghair Muqalid aur Deobandi Dono Iskey Against Hain) Tu Us Waqt Arab Mein Aisi Hakomat Kesey Bani Jab Key Aapki Pesh Kerdah Hadees Key Mutabiq Aisa Na Mumkin Hai.. Assalam-o-Alikum, sab doston sey maazrat key hum jawab late dey rahy hain asal main loadshading ki waja sey moqana mil saka ap logon key jawabat deney ka humain to bohat herat hoi key itney sarey logon key jawabat dey ker or taqreeban mozzoo sey hat ker jawabat diey ja rahy hain, sirif ye Sag-e-Madinah bhai ka jawabat mozoo key sath hai, hum sirif mozoo sey munsalik eitrazat ka jawab dain gey or mozzoo sey hat ker ager hum jawab na dain gey barah-e-mahrabani ap log mozoo kjey sath chaley alag mozoo na chhery. jawab hazir hai, kia apko pata hai ek Hadees pak khana-e-Kaaba sey mutaliq: Nabi-e-Pak Sallaho ALhiey Wassalam ka farman hai:jab tak meri ummat Haram ki Taazeem kerti rahy gi wo bhali sey mala maal rahy gi or jab is ki taazeem chhor dey gi to phir halak hojaey gi" ibn-e-maaja page no 225 pehley jab banu Abbasi key dor main Khana-e-Kaaba ki Tahir Qaramta ney jab Khana-e-Kaaba ki hurmat ko pamal kia to ALlah Taala ney ye saadat banu abbas sey cheen li or phir jab saltanat-e-Usmania ney bhi jo kuch kia wo bhi ap key samney hai. ye Allah Taala ki zaat hai jo her cheez per qadir hai or Allah Taala apney Markazi gher ki hifazat farma raha hay. Salatnat-e-Usmania ney sahaba ki Qabron ko pakka banaya or ghumrahi key rastey main perney lagey to Allah Taala ney un sey bhi ye saadat cheen li. ager ye sab tareeqey Allah Taala or Nabi-e-Pak Sallho Alihey Wassalam key tareeqey hotey to shayd Saltanat-e-Usmania ye saadat nahi khotey kia ap logon key liyain ye saadat chheen jana Allah ki taraf sey is bat ki ishara nahi deti key sahi aqeeda kia hai. Asif Bhayi, Imran Bhayi, Ahmad Bhayi, Saif ul Islam Bhayi... Yeh Aap Ki Kisi Baat Ka Jawab Nhin Dein Gey.. Chahey Inhein Videos Sey Daleel Di Jaye ya Quran-o-Aahadees Sey Ya Tareekh Sey Ya Mukhalifeen Sey... Shurow Sey Aub Tak Yeh Hamari Baat ka Jawab Tu Kuja Apni Kisi Baat Per Bhi Daleel Nhin Dey Sakey... Is Liye Nasir Noman Sahib... Main Phir Apney 3 Suwal Dohrana Chahon Ga... Ager Aap In Ka Jawab Nhin Dey Saktey... Tu Hamari Aur Bhi Kafi Masrofiyat Hain.. Na Aap Apna Waqt Zaya Kerein Na Hamara... Pehli Arz Yeh Hai Key Aap Ney Jo Hadees Bayan Ki Hai Khaana-e-Kaba Ki Chabiyon Wali Iska Hawala Bama Sannad Pesh Kerein.. Aap Ney Dawa Kiya Hai Key Pori Dunya Mein Wahabi Aqaid Key Loug Hain.. Apney Dawey Per Amali Daleel Pesh Kerein (Jo Aap Hum Sey Mutalba Ker Rahey Hain).. Werna Aapka Daawa Batil Hai. Dalail ka Ta'ayun Kerein.. Aapko Hum Apni Baat Sabit Kerney Key Liye Kahan Sey Dalail Dein.. Quran Sey? Hadees Sey? Ulema Ki Kutub Sey? Tareekh Sey? Ya Kis Cheez Sey? Jab Tak Aap Dalail Ka Ta'ayun Nhin Kerein Gey... Aap Sey Baat Nhin Ho Sakti... Aap Mazeed Kisi Discussion Key Bajaye.. In Suwalon Ka Jawab Dein... sabar rakhain dost sari baton key jawab dain gey mager ahista ahista mozoo key jawabat mozoo sey hat ker nahi. aaj light ki waja sey bethna nahi hua kal inshaALlah apko sarey jawabat miley gey Hazrat Aapko Hawalon Ki Baat Ki Jaye Tu Aap Shia Ki Tehreef Ki Rat Lagana Shurow Ker Detey Hain... Aap Ghaliban Karachi Sey Hain Aur Aapki Batein Perh Ker Aisa Lagta Hai Aap Shayed Karachi Sey Bhi Bahir Nhin Nikley.. Muazrat Key Sath... Aur Aap Pori Dunya Key Aqaid Key Dawey Ker Rahey Hain... Irada Yeh Tha Key Aapkey In 6 Replies Ki Her Baat Ka Jawab Likha Jaye... Mager Behs Kerna Fuzool Nazer Aaraha Hai... Jab Tak Aap Saboot Ka Ta'ayun Nhin Kertey... Key Aapko Saboot Kesay Diya Jaye? Imran Bhayi (Jadd ul Mukhtar) Ney Aapko Kayi Arabi Ulema Key Hawaley Diye.. Aap Ney Post Perhney Ki Zehmat Bhi Nhin Ki Hogi... Asif Bhayi (Ya Muhammadah) Ney Abhi Wahabi Ulema Key Hawaley Pesh Kiye Hain.. Malom Hai Aap Is Per Bhi Koi Baat Nhin Kerein Gey... apko is ka jawab dey cukey hain mager shayad ap post sahi sey perhtey nahi or new sawal ker detey hain hum ney kaha key ager itney sarey Ulama Wahabiyat ka rad kertey hain or Wahabion ko Kafir jantey hain barailvi Ulama ki tarha to itney sarey Ulma key mannaey waley Saudi Ulama key peechaey Namaz kio poerhtey hain? or itney sarey Ulama key manney waley Musalaman kahan hain ? wo log Pakistan or India ki tarha in Barelivi aqeedon key mutabiq amal kio nahi kertey ? or ager kertey hain to Green amama kaha hai sab ka ? un countryt mian kon sey buzrugana-e-deen ka mazarat per is tarha rush kio nahi hota jesa Pakkistan or India main hota hai ? Salat-o-Salam ki awazain is tarha nazar kion nahi aati jesey Pak-o-hind main nazar ati hain ? Eid Milad un Nabi Sallaho Alihey Wassalam per barey barey Jaloos kio nahi nazar aatey ? ek dost ney jo youtube key clips pesh kiey hain un key jawbat bhi hazir hain mager unki quote key sath Edited 26 مئی 2008 by Sag-e-Attar Aik Post Mein Sab Replies Likhein.. Aur Jis Baat Ka Jawab Dein.. Uskey Oper Asal Text Quote Ker Liya Kerein.. اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasir Noman مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Pehli Arz Yeh Hai Key Aap Ney Jo Hadees Bayan Ki Hai Khaana-e-Kaba Ki Chabiyon Wali Iska Hawala Bama Sannad Pesh Kerein.. fateh Makkah key din Hazoor Sallaho ALiohey Wassalam ney Khana-e-Kaaba key chabian Usman bin Talah sey lian or ye khayal tha key ye chabian Hazrat Abbas razi Allaho Taala Unho ko di jaey gi magfer us waqat Ayat utri:<BR><BR>Allah Taala Tumhain Hukum deytey hain key amanat walon ko in ki amanat ada kerdo Sorah-e-Nissa ayat no 58 Rukuh 8 Para 4<BR>Pghir Hazoor Sallaho ALihey Wassalam ney chabian Usman bin Talaha ko marhamat farmadi <BR><BR>ye chabian Qasa key baad Abdul Dar ko baad main Usman binAbdul Dar,Abdul AAza bin Usman,Abi Talah yaani Abdullah bin Abdul Uzza Talaha Bin Abi Talaha ko naslan milta tha.<BR>Usman bin Talaha 07 Hijri main Musalman hoey. in ki wafat key baad in key Chaha zad bhai Shiba bin Usman Bin Abi Talahako ye azaz Naseeb hua jab sey ab tak Naslan issi khandan ko hasil hai ek dafa Yazeed ney un ki nasal sey ye chabian chheen li thin or Khana-e-Kaaba key Darwazey nay khulney sey inkar kerdia tah<BR>apney Ulama-e-Kiram sey tafseel poochh saktey hain اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
سگِ عطار مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Aap Ki Post # 42 Waley Tajahil-e-Aarfana Ka Jawab In Suwalat Per Discussion Key Baad Dien Gey... fateh Makkah key din Hazoor Sallaho ALiohey Wassalam ney Khana-e-Kaaba key chabian Usman bin Talah sey lian or ye khayal tha key ye chabian Hazrat Abbas razi Allaho Taala Unho ko di jaey gi magfer us waqat Ayat utri:<BR><BR>Allah Taala Tumhain Hukum deytey hain key amanat walon ko in ki amanat ada kerdo Sorah-e-Nissa ayat no 58 Rukuh 8 Para 4<BR>Pghir Hazoor Sallaho ALihey Wassalam ney chabian Usman bin Talaha ko marhamat farmadi <BR><BR>ye chabian Qasa key baad Abdul Dar ko baad main Usman binAbdul Dar,Abdul AAza bin Usman,Abi Talah yaani Abdullah bin Abdul Uzza Talaha Bin Abi Talaha ko naslan milta tha.<BR>Usman bin Talaha 07 Hijri main Musalman hoey. in ki wafat key baad in key Chaha zad bhai Shiba bin Usman Bin Abi Talahako ye azaz Naseeb hua jab sey ab tak Naslan issi khandan ko hasil hai ek dafa Yazeed ney un ki nasal sey ye chabian chheen li thin or Khana-e-Kaaba key Darwazey nay khulney sey inkar kerdia tah<BR>apney Ulama-e-Kiram sey tafseel poochh saktey hain Aap Ney Apni Baat Per Daleel Pesh Nhin Ki... Konsey Mufasireen Ney Likha Key Yeh Aayat Is Moqa Per Nazil Hoyi.. Aur Yeh Chabiyan Deney Wali Baat Konsi Hadees Ki Kitab Ya Tareekh Ki Kitab Mein Mojod Hai? Aap Munkir-e-Hadees Tu Nhin Hain? Ager Nhin Hain Tu Hadees Ka Hawala Bama Sannad Pesh Kerein.. Koi Jaldi Nhin Hai.. Aap Apney Ulema Sey Poch Lein.. Chonkey Hadees Aap Ney Pesh Ki Hai Is Liye Hawala Aur Sannad Bhi Aapko Deni Hogi... Nez Aap Ney Likha Keh... Yazeed ney un ki nasal sey ye chabian chheen li thin or Khana-e-Kaaba key Darwazey nay khulney sey inkar kerdia tah Iski Daleel Bhi Aap Pesh Kerein... Ager Nhin Malom Tu Apney Ulema Sey Pochein... Hum Jo Hadees Pesh Kerein Gey Uska Hawala Hamarey Zimey.. Aap Sey Yeh Nhin Kahein Gey Key Ja Ker Apney Ulema Sey Poch Lu... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasir Noman مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Aap Ney Dawa Kiya Hai Key Pori Dunya Mein Wahabi Aqaid Key Loug Hain.. Apney Dawey Per Daleel Pesh Kerein.. Werna Aapka Dawa Batil Hai. Dost ap ney kaha sari dunia key Muslaman barailvi aqaid key mutabiq amal kertey hain to hum ney kaha key ager sari dunia apkey aqaid per amal kerti hai to ap sabit karey kio key ye Aqeedey to Pakistan or india mian itney ziada hain or is jadeed dor main newspapar vedio or bohat sari essi cheezain hain jin sey ap ye jasey or jaloos dekha saktey hain or reh gai baat key hum ye sabit karain key dunia main kon sey log in aqeedon par amal nahi kartey? hum ap sey keh rahy hain key kon sey muslim in aqeedon per amal kertey hain or ap kehtey hain key hum unlogon ko apko dekhain jo log in baton per amal nahi kertrey kia hum youtube walon ko kahin key ap un sari Muslim dunia key logon key gheron main jaker movi baney jo essey aqeedon per amal nahi kar rahy ya newspapaer waley un ko collection kerey jo in aqeedon per amal nahi kartey? kia ap sirif Karachi main hi bata saktey hain kitney log Wahabi aqeedey key mutabiq amal kertey hain? kia khayal hai ye apka sawal drust hai ? اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasir Noman مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Dalail ka Ta'ayun Kerein.. Aapko Hum Apni Baat Sabit Kerney Key Liye Kahan Sey Dalail Dein.. Quran Sey? Hadees Sey? Ulema Ki Kutub Sey? Tareekh Sey? Jab Tak Aap Dalail Ka Ta'ayun Nhin Kerein Gey... Aap Sey Baat Nhin Ho Sakti... In 3 Suwalat Key Jawabat Tak Aap Sey Mazeed Discussion Nhin Ho Sakti.. Kiyon Key. Na Aap Saboot Pesh Kertey Hain Na Aap Saboot Ko Tasleem Kerna Chahtey Hain... apko pichhli post main is ka jawab mil gaya hoga hum ney jawab dia tha key khushboo ko bataney ki zarorat nahi perti key main khushboo hoon wo to apney aap pheljati hai. herat hai key Pakistan or India main itney barey Ijtemaat hotey hain Eid Milad Un Nabi Sallaho Alkihey Wassalam per,Buzrugan-e-Deen key Uurus per barey barey jalsoon per or sab sey bari apki ek nishani Green Emama per jin sey newspapar or vedio bhari hoi hoti hain apko kia mushkilat pesh arahi hain? or bhi bohat sari cheezaibn hain wo bhi bata dain gey ager apko chahiey hoon اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
سگِ عطار مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 kia khayal hai ye apka sawal drust hai ? Bilkul Hamara Yeh Suwal Darust Hai.. Kiyon Key Hum Ney Aap Sey Kaha Key Dunya Mein Zyada Ter Loug Barelavi Aqeedey Per Hain... Aaj Tak Hum Ney Jo Mukhalifeen Sey Discussion Ki Hai Us Mein Mushtarka Taur Per Yahi Baat Dekhney Ko Mili Hai Key Daleel Awam Nhin Ulema Hotey Hain... Hum Ney Quran-o-Hadees Sey Dalail Pesh Kerna Chahey Tu Aap Ney Yeh Keh Ker Baat Radd Ker Di Key Sab Quran-o-Hadees Sey Daleel Detey Hain.. Hum Ney Aapko Bazurgan-e-Deen Sey Daleel Deni Chahi tu Aap Ney Tehreef Keh Ker Radd Ker Di... Hum Ney Ulema Key Naam Pesh Kiye Tu Aap NeyAwam Keh Ker Baat Radd Ker Di... Hum Ney Youtube Pesh Kiya Tu Aap Aub Sari Dunya Mein Youtube Ghumaney Ka Keh Rahey Hain... Tu Hum Ney Tu Her Tareeqa Sey Apni Baat Sabit Kerney Ki Koshish Ki Mager Aapko Koi Tareeqa Pasand Hi Nhin... Jab Aap Ki Apni Bari Aayi Hai key Porey Dunya Ki Awam Ko Wahabi Sabit Kerein Tu Aap Kehtey Hain Yeh Suwal Hi Ghalat Hai... Is Liye Aap In 3 Suwalat Ka Sahi Jawab Dein... Daleel Sey... Wahabi Aqaid Pori Dunya Mein Quran-o-Hadees ya Bazurgan-e-Deen ya Tareekh ya Youtube ya Kisi Munasib Tarz-e-Amal Sey Sabit Kerein... Werna Aapka Dawa Mehez Batil Hai... Aur Imam-e-Kaaba Key Pechay Namaz Wali Baat Ka Aapko Kayi Baar Jawab Diya Ja Chuka Hai.. Aap Hamari Posts Ko Perhney Ki Zehmat Kerein Tu Aapko Jawab Miley... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasir Noman مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Hazrat aap nay farmaya aap nay malysia daikha hai waha 100% wahabi hain tu zara links pay ghour farmaiey ya phir Malysia mai 100% wahabi Meelad bhe manatay hain aap kay khayal mai.. Proof aur wo bhee Amali aap ki farmaish pay aap kay leay chand mazeed tohfay paish hain zaror bil zaror daikheay yei links aur bar bar daikheay kay arab turk malysian kurdish sab apnay Nabi alaislam ka Meelad e pak manatay hain ab aap he bata dain yei sab Ahlesunnat wal jamat hain ya 100% wahabi. Makkah Sharif: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEnn8l87g4U Jeddah: Malysia: Misar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEkdSDou9FQ&NR=1 Iraq: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi3tnFQaoPM Turkey: Kurdistan: Kenya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VjuoH81Kt8 dost ek to ye key hum ney araz ki thi jis tarha Eid Milad un Nabi Sallaho ALihjey Wassalam Pakistan or India mian manaya jata hai or barey barey Jalsey jaloos hotey hain, ek to ye bat hum ney pehley bhi batai thi key Seerat un Nabi Sallho Alihey Wassalam dewobandi bhi manatey hain or essi speech bhi hoti hain. or aap ney jitni bhi vedio post ki hain kia Pakistan or India main bhi itney hi log hotey hian jitney in vedio main nazar atey hain? ap ka kahna hain key dunia key billion Musalman Barailvi aqeedon per amal kertey hain. kia jaha ye mehfil hoi hain waha ki abadi bohat kam hai ya aap billion ka matlab nahi samjhtey? Khana-e-Kaaba key ijtem,aa ko dekhain ye sirif 06 million hota hai Bangala desh main taqreeban 4 million ka ijtemaa hota hai uski pic bhi youtube per search kerain RaeyWind ka Ijtemaa 2.5 million ka hota hai uski pic bhi apko Youtube per mil jey gi Faizan-e-Madinah ka Ijtemaa bhi 2.5 million ka hota hai wop bhi apko youtube per mil jaey gi Shia Hazrat key Jaloos bhio bohat barey barey hotey hain wo bhi apko youtube per mil jain gey, kehney ka maqsad ye hain in you tube ki pic sey sey ap ye sabit kerna chahtey hain key poori dunia main billion(100,000,000 ye ek billion hai) barilvi aqeedon key log hain ? ap dobara dekhain in vedio ko or khud sochain ap kia sabit kar rahy hain? اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
سگِ عطار مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 apko pichhli post main is ka jawab mil gaya hoga hum ney jawab dia tha key khushboo ko bataney ki zarorat nahi perti key main khushboo hoon wo to apney aap pheljati hai. herat hai key Pakistan or India main itney barey Ijtemaat hotey hain Eid Milad Un Nabi Sallaho Alkihey Wassalam per,Buzrugan-e-Deen key Uurus per barey barey jalsoon per or sab sey bari apki ek nishani Green Emama per jin sey newspapar or vedio bhari hoi hoti hain apko kia mushkilat pesh arahi hain? or bhi bohat sari cheezaibn hain wo bhi bata dain gey ager apko chahiey hoon Hazrat... Main Ney Aapko Pehley bhi Kaha Hai Key Aap na Hamara Waqt Zaya Kerein Na Apna Waqt Zaya Kerein... Jab Aapkey pas Koi Daleel Nhin Hai.. Aur Na Aap Daleel Qabool Kerna Chahtey Hain.. Tu Aap Kiyon Ikhtilafi Behs Mein Shirkat Kertey Hain.. Ikhtilafi Behs Tu Dalail Ka Majmo'aa Hoti Hai... Kiya Aap Ney Kabhi Koi Munazra Nhin Dekha? Aapko Sabz Imama Dekhna Hai Deger Mumalik Mein? Kitney Saboot Pesh Kerein? Aap Bata Dein? Chalein Yeh Check Kerein... Dunya Key Kayi Mumalik Mein Sabz Imama Dekhein.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ktyThFYd8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rexuxkWUpko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64X8y5crNtc http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=83...458264380&q http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=79...mp;q=&hl=en Ager Kam Hoon tu Mazeed Pesh Ker Dein Gey... kehney ka maqsad ye hain in you tube ki pic sey sey ap ye sabit kerna chahtey hain key poori dunia main billion(100,000,000 ye ek billion hai) barilvi aqeedon key log hain ? Jee Yeh Merey Dosrey Suwal Ka Maqsad Tha... Aapko Hamarey Dalail Qabool Nhin Hain Na Sahi... Aap Sabit Ker Dein Key Dunya Mein Sarey Wahabi Hain Siwaye Pak-o-Hind Key... Ager Aap Ney Dalail Per Munasib Tarz-e-Amal Ikhtyar na Kiya Tu Majboran Humein Topic Close Kerna Per Jaye Ga... Kiyon Key Aap Ko Hum Pori Dunya Ki Sair Nhin Kerwa Saktey... Aur Dalail Na Aap Pesh Kertey Hain Na Qabool Kertey Hain... اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ata_ho_ghame_madina مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 مئی 2008 TO ALL one thing i want to say nasir noman sahib ap waqee mein time waste ker rahin hay ap ka maqasd hay yahn key membr ko qail kerna jo ap ne question kea mien ne aik aur forum per bhi perhy wahn se bhi ap ko esa he response mila tha na ap qaiel hona chty hain na he ker sektyy hain اقتباس Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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