Mirza Ka Quran Aur Hadith

[Sybarite]

Aamir Malik cheekh cheekh kar her topic mein aik hi roona rootay nazar aatay hain ke Quran-o-Hadith se baat karo. Iss zaman mein mein inn se baar'ha pooch chuka ke khudara bataiye ke aap ke nazdeek Quran-o-Hadith ki kaun si tafasir aur shurohaat mutabirr hain. Magar mere baar baar pochnay ke ba'wajood Aamir Malik mere iss seedhay se sawal se bhaagtay rahay hain aur ab tak bhaag rahay hain. Yaad rakhiye Aamir Malik sahab ke iss sawal se aap ki jaan nahi chootay gi! Jawab tu dena hoga warna maan lijiye ke Quran-o-Hadith ki mutabirr tafasir aur shurohaat se aap apna mouqiff sabit nahi kar saktay.

 

Filhaal mein yaha Quran-o-Hadith se mutalliq Mirza ke kuch qoul Mirzaiyo ki mutabirr kitabo se paish kar raha hon jisay parh kar nadaan se nadaan insaan bhi jaan sakta hai ke Mirzaiyo ka Quran-o-Hadith ke mamlay mein kya mouqiff hai.

 

1. Quran Sharif Khuda ki kitab aur Mirza ki batein

 

"Iss nishaan ka mudd'aa ye hai ke Quran Sharif Khuda ki kitaab aur mere munh ki batein hain."

Her aaqil-o-baligh aadmi mandarja'bala qoul ki haisiyatt samajh sakta hai! Mirza yaha dawa kar raha hai ke Quran-e-Karim jisay sari ummat Khuda ka kalaam maanti hai, woh sirf Khuda ka kalaam nahi balkay uss mein Mirza ke munh se nikli batein bhi hain! (Naql-e-kufr, kufr na bashid)

 

Maloom howa ke Mirzaiyo ke nazdeek Quran sirf Allah ka kalaam nahi balkay khud Mirza ka kalaam bhi hai aur iss se ye muraad lena bhi ghalat nahi ke Mirza ki kitabien jo Mirza ne likhi ya Mirza ke jo qoul ye Mirzai "Malfoozat" ke naam se parhtay hain woh bhi Mirzaiyo ke nazdeek Quran-e-Karim ke barabar howi. Issi tarah aglay hawalay mein Mirza apni ki howi bakwaas ko Khuda ka kalaam qaraar deta hai.

 

Aur ye aqeeda poori ummat ke aqeeday se muta'zaad hai jis se sabit howa ke Mirzaiyo ka Quran muslim ummat ke Quran se mukhtalif hai.

 

 

2. Mirza ka kalaam Khuda ka kalaam hai

 

"Magar mein Khuda Ta'ala ki qasam khaa kar kehta hon ke mein inn ilhamaat per ussi tarah imaan lata hon jaisa ke Quran Sharif per aur Khuda ki doosri kitaboo per. Aur jis tarah mein Quran Sharif ko yaqeeni aur qat'ai tour per Khuda ka kalaam jaanta hon ussi tarah uss kalaam ko bhi jo mujh per nazil hota hai, Khuda ka kalaam yaqeen karta hon."

 

Yaha Mirza khullam'khulla dawa kar raha hai ke woh apnay ooper nazil honay wali khud'sakhta aur man'gharat wahi ko bilkul Quran-e-Karim ki tarah Khuda ka kalaam manta hai. Aur zahir hai jab Mirza ka ye aqeeda hai tu Mirzaiyo ka bhi yehi aqeeda hoga.

 

Pehlay dawa kiya ke Quran mein mere munh ki batein hain aur ab dawa kiya ke mera kalaal Khuda ka kalaam hai. Maloom howa ke Mirzaiyo ke nazdeek na'sirf Quran Mirza ka kalaam hai balkay Mirza ki deegar bakwaas bhi ko bhi ye kalaam-e-Ilahi tabeer kartay hain.

 

 

3. Mirzaiyo ke Quran mein Shehr Qadiyan ka zikr bhi moujod hai

"Iss jageh mujhay yaad aya ke jis rooz woh ilhaam mazkoora'bala jis mein Qadian mein nazil honay ka zikr howa tha. Uss rooz kashfi tour per mein ne ye dekha ke mere bhai sahab marhoom, Mirza Ghulam Qadir mere qareeb beth kar ba'awaaz-e-bulund Quran Sharif parh rahay hain aur parhtay parhtay uinho ne in fuqraat ko parha ke "Inna anzalnahu qareeb'um min al'Qadian" tu mein ne sun kar bohut ta'ajjub kiya ke Qadian ka naam bhi Quran Sharif mein likha howa hai? Tab unho ne kaha ke ye dekho likha howa hai. Tab mein ne nazar daal kar jo dekha tu maloom howa ke fil'haqeeqat Quran Shairf ke daaien safhe mein shayad qareeb nisf ke mouqay per yehi ilhaami ibarat likhi howi moujod hai. Tab mein ne apnay dil mein kaha ke haa waqai tour per Qadian ka naam Quran Sharif mein darj hai aur mein ne kaha ke 3 shehro ka naam aizaaz ke saath Quran Sharif mein darj kiya gaya hai, Makkah, Madinah aur Qadian. Ye kashf tha."

 

 

Mulahiza kijiye! Kya khul kar dharallay se Mirza Quran per jhoot band raha hai ke Quran mein Qadian ka zikr hai! Poori ummat mein aaj tak kisi ko Quran-e-Karim mein Qadian ka naam nazar nahi aaya. Yaha bhi wazeh hota hai ke Mirzaiyoo ka Quran Muslim Ummah ke Quran se mukhtalif hai.

 

Quran ke mutalliq tu aap ne dekh liya ke iss kazzab batil firqay ka kya aqeeda hai. Ab aaiye hadith per.

 

4. Mirza ke daway ki bunyad Hadith nahi, Jo ahadith Mirza ke daway ke maariz hain usay Mirza Raddi mein phaink deta hai.

 

"Aur hum iss ke jawab mein Khuda Ta'ala ki qasam khaa kar bayan kartay hain ke meray iss daway ki Hadith bunyaad nahi balkay Quran aur woh wahi hai jo mere per nazil howi. Haa taeedi tour per hum woh hadithein bhi paish kartay hani jo Quran Sharif kay mutabiq hain aur meri wahi ke maariz nahi. Aur doosri haditho ko hum raddi ki tarah phaink dete hain."

 

Pehlay apna jhootay daway ki taeed mein apni zehni kharabi ke baa'is dimaagh mein anay wali kharafaat aur shaitani waswaso ko Kalaam-e-Ilahi ke brabar kaha, Quran ko apna kalaam kaha aur ab jin ahadith se Mirza ki jhooti nabuwwat sabit nahi hoti unhay Raddi ki tarah phaink dene ka iqraar.

 

 

 

 

Mandarja'bala tamaam hawalo ki bunyaad per ye kehna ghalat na hoga ke Mirzaiyoo ka Khuda alag, Nabi alag, Quran alag aur hadith se tu koi lena dena hi nahi. Tu phir ye khud ko musalmaan qaraar dene per kyu tulay hain? Khud ko Qadiani kehlwaiye, Mirza kehlwaiye, Ahmedi kehlwaiye magar Musalman nahi!

 

Musalmaanoo ke Khuda ka kalaam Mirza ke kalaam ki tarah chichoora aur fehesh nahi! Musalmaano ke Khuda ka kalaam be'misl-o-be'nazeer hai, aur waisay hi uss ke Nabi-e-Mua'zzam Huzoor-e-Akram . Musalmaano Quran ko Khuda ka kalaam maantay hain, kisi nafsiyaati Punjabi Sikh numa sar'phiray ki bakwaas ka uss Kalaam-e-Ilahi se koi mawazana nahi. Musalmaan Hadith-e-Nawabi ko Quran-e-Karim ke baad sab se zyada mutabirr aur muhtaram mantay hain aur iss se Mirza ka koi lena dena tu Mirzaiyo ki tu phir baat hi rehnay dein.

 

 

Umeed hai ke Aamir Malik Qadiani (ye na kahiye ga ke aap Qadiani nahi, jis tarah zaroori nahi ke her Hindu Hindustan mein rehta hon tabhi Hindu kehlaye ga ussi tarah ye bhi zaroori nahi ke her Qadiani Qadian mein rehta ho tabhi Qadiani kehlaye ga) ab ye roona dhoona nahi machaye gay ke Quran-o-Hadith se baat karo.

 

Mazeed baat karne se pehlay ab Aamir Malik ki ye zimay'daari hai ke ya tu woh mandarja'bala hawalajaat ki wazahat kartay howay sabit karein ke woh Quran-e-Karim ko Allah ka kalaam samajh aur Ahadith-e-Nabawi per imaan rakhtay hain. Basoorat-e-deegar inn ko chahiye ke Quran-o-Hadith paish karo ki ratt lagana band karien aur Allah se dua karein ke woh inhay Haqq ko pechan kar usay qubool karne ki toufiq ata farmaye.

 

Aameen Bijahi Nabiyil Ameen

 

 

[Aamir Malik]

hahaha.......... Yahoodyoon wale kaam lagay rahoo.. woh bhi 1400 saal se yahi kaam krte aa rahe hain

[Sybarite]

hahaha.......... Yahoodyoon wale kaam lagay rahoo.. woh bhi 1400 saal se yahi kaam krte aa rahe hain

 

 

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[سگِ عطار]

hahaha.......... Yahoodyoon wale kaam lagay rahoo.. woh bhi 1400 saal se yahi kaam krte aa rahe hain

 

Aamir Malik.. Aap Her Topic Mein Likh Rahey Hain Key Sarkar-e-Madinah Per Aitarazat Ho Rahey Hai... Tu Aapko Kayi Bar Likha Gaya Hai Key Jab Sarkar Ki Shaan Mein Koi Gustakhi Kerta Hai Ya Unkey Rutbey Ko Ghatata Hai Tu Hum Sirf Yeh Rat Nhin Lagatey Key Tehreef Ho Gayi.. Takzeeb Ker Di.. Balkey Hum Awal Mukhalif Key Dalail Ka Rad Kertey Hain Phir Ussey Dalail Bhi Detey Hain.. Jo Us Key Nazdeek Motabar Hoon.. Aap Na Apney Mirza Sahib Ki Books Diffa Ker Rahey Hain.. (Siwaye Tehreef Keh Ker) Na Hi Aap Humein Yeh Bata Rahey Hain Key Aap Nazdeek Koun Motabar Hai.. Ulta Aap Humein Ghair Motabar Hawaley (Qasim Nanotavi = Mirza Ka Rohani Walid) Pesh Ker Rahey Hain...

 

Ager Aap Yahi Tehreef-o-Takzeeb Wali Bat Kertey Rahey Tu Kiya Aap Ka Moa'qif Sabit Ho Sakta Hai??? Jisko Sabit Kerney Key Liye Aap Yahan Discussion Ker Rahey Hain...???

 

Is Liye Aap Key Mirza Sahib Ki Kutub Per Jo Aitarazat Howey Hain Aap Un Mein Tehreef Ko Sabit Kerein..

 

Aap Ney Likha Key Quran-e-Pak Sey Bat Ki Jaye.. Aap Apni Bat Ko Clear Kerein Aap Key Nazdeek Koun Sey Ulema Mustanad Hain.. Takey Tarjima Wa Tafseer Unhi Ki Pesh Ki Jayen..

 

Kiya Qadyaniyon Key Nazdeek Mirza Sey Pehley Ka Koi Muhaddis/Mufassir Motabar Nhin Hai? Ager Nhin Hai Tu Aap Is Bat Ko Khul Ker Kiyon Nhin Likhtey? (Waisey Tu Aap Key Nazdeek Khud Mirza Sahib Bhi Motabar Nhin Lag Rahey Wegerna Aap Unki Kutub Mein Tehreef Ko Sabit Ker Chukey Hotey)

 

Umeed Hai Abhi Aap Discussion Mein Musbat Rah-e-Amal Ikhtiyaar Kerein Gey.. Yani Jin Baton Ka Aap Diffa Kerna Chah Rahey Hain Un Per Daleel Pesh Ker Key Un Mein Tehreef Ko Sabit Kerein Gey Aur Jin Baton Per Aap Jawab Lena Chahtey Hain Un Per Kiye Gaye Suwalat Ka Jawab Bhi Dein Gey... Takey Ager Aapko Jawab Na Bhi Miley Tu Dekhney Walon Ko Pata Chaley Key Aap Ney Jawabaat Diye They...

[Aashiq Koun]

sag-e-attar bahi aap ne zabardast topic start kya hay .mera irada tha esy start kerny ka lakin acha howa aap ne ker dya

 

hahaha.......... Yahoodyoon wale kaam lagay rahoo.. woh bhi 1400 saal se yahi kaam krte aa rahe hain

(Aamir Malik @ Apr 18 2008, 05:39 PM)

aamr malik tum ne humain kaha hay k yahudion wala kaam kerty raho lakin asal yahoodi ka kutta to mirza qadyani tha.

mirzy ki book ka sirf title dekho k kis tarah bartania k yahoudion k agy girgira raha hay aor wasta de ker keh raha hay k meri guzarish sun lain.

 

tumhain sirf title dekh k aqal aa jani chahye.

 

[asim10]

hahaha.......... Yahoodyoon wale kaam lagay rahoo.. woh bhi 1400 saal se yahi kaam krte aa rahe hain

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yahodi agar is qisam ka kaam kartay hain too hum unka jawab daitay hain.abb agar hum mirza per aitaraz kar rahay hain to tum mirza ke safee paish karoo,is qisam ke batain kar kay apnee bay basi zahir na karoo.

[Sybarite]

Jaha tak meri raye hai tu Aamir Malik sahab se ab baat karna fuzool hai. Ratay rataye tootay ki tarah inhay sirf "yahoodi ho yahoodi ho, tehreef kardi" waghaira ke naaray lagana ke siwa kuch nahi aata. Inn se koi sawal kar liya ye jawab dene ke bajaye naaray'baazi aur muskhara'pana shuru kar dete hain.

 

Iss topic mein jitnay scans hain saray Mirzaiyo ki mustanadd aur official website "alislam" se liye gaye hain, jis se sabit hota hai ke Mirza ko khud apni zehni kharafaat jisay woh wahi aur ilhaam kehta tha, Quran-e-Karim ki tarah yaqeen tha. Mazeed ye bhi ke Quran Mirza ki kahi howi batein hain hatta ke ye dawa bhi ke Quran mein Qadian ka zikr hai, tu saaf zahir hota hai ke Mirzaiyo ka Quran alag hai. Humaray Quran mein Alhumdulillah kisi maloon kazzab ki munh ki bakwaas nahi. Aur issi tour Aamir Malik ka ye mutaliba karna ke dalail Quran se diye jaye batil ho jata hai. Aamir Malik ab usooli tour per pa'band hain ke ya tu iss topic mein post kiye gaye hawala'jaat ki safai paish karein aur sabit karein gay ke Mirzaiyo ka Quran mukhtalif nahi.

 

Phir mazeed aik lateefa ye ke Israel aur British ki good mein palnay walay ye Mirzai aaj hum Sunniyo ko Yahoodiyo se tashbeeh dete hain. Iss ke jawab mein Mirzaiyat ke munh per aik aur joota maar raha hon, umeed hai ke ifaqa hoga.

 

 

The Jerusalem Post, 21 November 1985;

 

"Sheikh Sharif Ahmad Amini, the outgoing head of the Ahmadiyya, an Indian Muslim sect locally based in Haifa, introduces his successor Sheikh Mohammed Hamid Katpar to President Chiam Herzog yesterday at Bait Hanassi. The new leader of the sect, which has 1200 followers in Israel, brought numerous documents as evidence that the sect is persecuted in Pakistan. The outgoing Sheikh who is returning to India praised Israel for allowing his sect to enjoy complete religious freedom."

 

Sari dunya janti hai ke Israel mein kisi bhi qism ki Islamic activities karna mana hai lekin Israel "dushman ka dushman dost hota hai" wali policy apnata howa Mirzaiyo ko apni good ka bacha samajh kar paal raha hai.

 

Aamir Malik, ab na machaiye ga Yahoodi Yahoodi ka shoor!

Edited 20 اپریل 2008 by Sybarite

[Aamir Malik]

To Lao Na Quran e Pak se Saddaqat ka Mayyar ... Ghairat marr kyoon jati hai ap logoon ki jab mein Quran e Karim ki baat krta hon

 

rahi baat yeh keh main apko yahoodion se q mushabihat deta woh sirf es liye keh woh bhii same esi trah k kamoon mein lagay howe hain jo ap kr rahay hain

 

es trah k aitrazaat door krte krte to apki kya apki aane wali nasleen khatam ho jaein gi lekin aitrazaat wohi k wohi rahein gay

 

ager mein galt keh raha hon to daikh lo 1400 saal se Islam awr Muhamad e Mustafa pe kis trah k gande awr Napak aitrazaat ho rahay hain

 

Humain to Faisla krna hai to sirf Quran se

 

ager aise baat hai to mein apko Apk Ilzamat ka jawab mein sirf 4 book refer kr deta hon ap woh Mangwa k Parh lejiye gga apk Sare Aitrazz door ho jaein gay Inshallah ...

ager apk dil mein zara sa bhi taqwa howa to

 

mein ne to aate sath he kaha tha keh hum sachai ko wahan se dhoondhein gay jahan se Khuda ne humain Hukm dya hai

 

 

to phir bolte q nhi

 

ya saaf saaf lafzoon mein keh q nhi dete keh Hum etne Ghairat mand nhi keh apko Quran se Nabi ki saddaqat ka Mayyar la kr dikha dein

 

DOOB MARO mein tumhain Quran pe challange day chuka hon awr ap Mirza Sahib pe aitrazz kre ja rahay hain

 

ager apka dil manta hai na keh Mirza Sahib Nauzobillah jhoote the to apko to Saddaqat ka Mayyar batane mein Jaldi krni chahiye takeh dhoodh ka dhoodh awr pani ka pani ho jae...

[asim10]

aamir sahib akhir kaar yehee hona tha.kay app nay badzubani hee shoro karnee thee.

yaar tum kis qisam kay qadayani hoo .ap mirza ka naam sun kar bukhla kiuon jatay hoo.

aour rahee quran say maiyar ke baat to tum nay kaha tha main batata hoon , to main nay tum say kaha tha kay tum hee bata doo , laikin tum nay bhee to nahin bataya.s

saddaqat batanay ka sawal tumhara tha aour yeh dawa tha kay agar tum loog na bata sakay to main bataooon gha.to abb bata doo mayar.dar kiuon rahay hoo

[mashors]

To Lao Na Quran e Pak se Saddaqat ka Mayyar ... Ghairat marr kyoon jati hai ap logoon ki jab mein Quran e Karim ki baat krta hon

 

rahi baat yeh keh main apko yahoodion se q mushabihat deta woh sirf es liye keh woh bhii same esi trah k kamoon mein lagay howe hain jo ap kr rahay hain

 

es trah k aitrazaat door krte krte to apki kya apki aane wali nasleen khatam ho jaein gi lekin aitrazaat wohi k wohi rahein gay

 

ager mein galt keh raha hon to daikh lo 1400 saal se Islam awr Muhamad e Mustafa pe kis trah k gande awr Napak aitrazaat ho rahay hain

 

Humain to Faisla krna hai to sirf Quran se

 

ager aise baat hai to mein apko Apk Ilzamat ka jawab mein sirf 4 book refer kr deta hon ap woh Mangwa k Parh lejiye gga apk Sare Aitrazz door ho jaein gay Inshallah ...

ager apk dil mein zara sa bhi taqwa howa to

 

mein ne to aate sath he kaha tha keh hum sachai ko wahan se dhoondhein gay jahan se Khuda ne humain Hukm dya hai

 

 

to phir bolte q nhi

 

ya saaf saaf lafzoon mein keh q nhi dete keh Hum etne Ghairat mand nhi keh apko Quran se Nabi ki saddaqat ka Mayyar la kr dikha dein

 

DOOB MARO mein tumhain Quran pe challange day chuka hon awr ap Mirza Sahib pe aitrazz kre ja rahay hain

 

ager apka dil manta hai na keh Mirza Sahib Nauzobillah jhoote the to apko to Saddaqat ka Mayyar batane mein Jaldi krni chahiye takeh dhoodh ka dhoodh awr pani ka pani ho jae...

 

waisey main ney suna hai mirza bari gandi mot mera tha kia yeh sahi hai .waisey ager nahin hai hai to kahan mera tha.

[mashors]

hahaha.......... Yahoodyoon wale kaam lagay rahoo.. woh bhi 1400 saal se yahi kaam krte aa rahe hain

 

 

wesey mirza to shaid yahoodion sey bhi bad ter tha.