Ahmadiyyon ka Kalma

[Sybarite]

Aap iss waqt itnay be'hawaas ho chukay hain ke khud aap ko nahi maloom ke kya bakay jaa rahay hain. Pehlay apni ki howi post dekhiye aur phir aankhein khool kar mera reply parhiye. Afyooni Mirza ki poori ummat afyooni ho chuki hai kya?

 

Lekin zahir hai jin k Diloon per Khuda ne Tallay laga diye hon awr ankhain andhi hon Ilm o Arfan k roshni se ari hon Khulam khula nabi e karim ki tohin krne mein maghrib k sathi hon unko meri post mein hawalay k taur per " KITAB E AQDAS" likha kahan nazar aae ga

 

Sirf kitab ka naam likh dena hawala kehlata hai? Mein ne Baha'is ki official website se saray references diye hain. Agar aap wald-e-halaal hain tu sabit karein ke mera reference ghalat hai. Aur "Kitab-e-Aqdas" ka hawala dena hai tu tafseeli hawala dijiye, ye sirf naam bata ka race honay wala mamla Mirzaiyatt ke cheetharoo ki paiwand'karo nahi kar sakay ga.

 

bhai mein sunnat e mustafa pe amal karte howe apko akhalqan keh raha tha na to koi humari nai shariat hai awr na koe nai kitab hum Muhamad e Mustafa k Ummati hain awr Quran e Karim ki SORAT JUMMA mein AKHRIEEN wali paishgoi k Musdaq

ap ko ager ezat rass nhi aati to theek hai nhi kahonga waise bhi apne SHEHD wali misal to sunni ho gi

Sunnat-e-Mustafa ye hai ke Momin apas mein bhai bhai hain. Aap khud ko momin sabit tu kijiye phir mujhay bhai kahiye ga. Rahi baat ikhlaaq ki tu aap bhai na kehtay howay bhi ikhlaaq ka daman thamay reh saktay hain. Mazeed ye ke jo hazraat qadianiyat per imaan nahi laye unn ke baray aap ka Mirza kis qism ki zaban istimaal karta tha uss ka namoonay dekhna hai tu bataiye.

 

Janab ne bhi Bhair chaal ka tareeq akhtyar krte howe to typical mullan ki trah na post parhi na samjhe awr aa gay apni mullaiat jharne net se data uthaya na parha na dekha copy paste kr dala keh Mullah na kaha hoga so sach hoga chahiye usse khud namaz ka turjuma tk na aata ho....

 

Mein pehlay bhi aap ko challenge kar chuka ke agar aap wald-e-halaal hain (jis per mujhay ab shuba sa hone laga hai kyu ke mere 2 baar kehnay ke bawajood bhi aap ne challenge na accept kya na jawab diya) sabit kar dijiye ke mera "data" kahi se bhi copy+pate kiya gaya hai. Aray kya Mirzaiyoo mein koi aik bhi halaal ki aulaad nahi?

 

Official website pe q jate ho ahmedi org ap logon ne banae awr khulam khulla jhoot bolte howe site ko ahmadiyoon ki site qarar day daya bhala jo loog Khuda k aik Nabi ki takzeeb kr skte hain jo loog tamam jahnoon k liye rehmat ban kr aane walay ki shaan mein gustakhi krne k liye maghrib ko rah dikha skte hain unk nazdeek jhoot kya cheez hai

 

Aap yaqeenan Mirza ki banai howi afyooni dawai ke zair-e-asar hain! Awwal tu aap sirf ilzaam laga saktay hain ke mein ne kisi website se kuch copy+pate kiya hai, sabit karna aap ke kya aap ki poori nasal ke buss mein nahi ke mein ne kuch copy+paste kiya hai. Mere baar baar kehnay ke bawajood aap mein itni himmat aur ghairat nahi ki apnay ilzaam ko sabit karne ke liye koi 1 hawala dein aur ye Mirzaiyoo ki khaslat hai. Jin ka ustaad jhoota kazzab uss ke shagirdo ko tu aisa hi hona hai.

 

Aap ko bhi kya Mirza ke khud'sakhta farishtay Techi Techi ne Pitti Pitti Gai keh kar khabar di hai ke www.ahmedi.org humari website hai? Chalo ye bhi choriye, aap ke bus ka kaam nahi ye bhi. Sirf itna bata dijiye ke mein ne kab aur kaha per www.ahmedi.org ko qadianiyo ki official website kaha. Aray Mirzai mein www.alislam.org ki baat kar raha tha. Pehle link iss liye nahi dya ke iss forum per ghair-sunni websites ke link post karna allow nahi but aap ki Mirzai aqal mein koi baat ghussay tab na! Scans agar ghalat hain tu bataiye.

 

Matlab qadianiyo mein koi mard-e-maidaan nahi jo apni kahi howi baat ka saboot bhi paish kar de? Kya Mirzay ne apnay peechay saray Mini-Mirza hi chooray hain? Bara jhoota choor mara chootay jhootay wala maamla hai kya?

 

tumhare liye mein ne nechay bahaiat awr babiat k bare mein kuch pages scan kr k dalay hein mulahiza kr lijiye ga

 

Scans? Kaha hain scans? Aap ki post per editing bhi khud aap hi ki nazar aarahi hai so ye bhi nahi ho sakta ke kisi Moderator ne scans delete kar diye hon post se. Shayad Mirza ki tarah aap ko bhi hysteria honay laga hai. Khair koi nahi, dobara se post kar dijiye scans.

 

waise bhi apne khoob mullaiat walla tareeqa akhtyar kya hai. humare ghar mein aik mulla construction ka kaam krwa raha hai mein ne usse jab tableeqh ki to us din khamosh raha awr dosre din khatam e nubwat walon k pass chala gya jab aaya to aate sath he Mirza Sahib pe aitrazaat ka palanda lay kr aaya

 

mein ne usse lakh koshish ki keh Quran o Hadees pe baat kro Mirza Sahib ka sach jhoot bhi esi se sabit ho jae ga ap zara ghaur to kr lien to kehne laga mujy Mannah kya gya hai keh Quran o Hadees pe Ahmadiyoon se baat nhi krni

 

To janab ne bhi wohi tareeq Akhtyar kr liya hai ......wah ray mulla teri chaaal

 

Tuff hai aisi bay'ghairti per!

 

Mere kisi sawal ka jawab dene ki toufiq aap ko nahi aur mujhi per buhtaan ke mein chaal chal raha hon. Ab tak koi 3-4 baar aap se pooch chuka ke miya Quran-o-Hadith se baat karni hai tu pehlay ye tu batao ke Quran ki kis tafsir ko maantay ho? hadith ki kis sharah ko mantay ho? Jawab dene mein khud ki dhooti qadian ki taraf ko urri jaati hai aur ilzaam mujh per laga rahay hain.

 

Aur ye gharailo kahaniya ghar walo ko sunaiye ga, kyu ke agar baat niklay gi tu phir door talak jaye gi ke misdaaq agar baat personal experiences per aa gai tu mein qadiani gharo mein beti ka apnay hi maa baap ki hum'bistiri ke manazir dekh kar "lutf andooz" hone ka ihwaal bhi likh do ga, jis ko aap manay gay nahi aur mein saboot de nahi sako ga. So aisi batoo se perhaiz kijiye ke jin ka saboot dena aap ke bus mein nahi. Personal experiences ko andaroon-e-khana discuss kiya karein.

 

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yeh to hai ap loogon ka Asli Makruuh awr ghanwna chehra awr ap loog hain keh Quran e Karim ki baat tak nhi karte awr aitrazaat pe aitrazaat krte chalay jate hai

 

Iss mamlay mein sach kya jhoot kiya iss per mera taqraar karna be'tukki si baat hogi ke ye bhi aap ka personal experience hai. Lekin aap ke liye munh toor jawab sirf itna hai ke Jamia Ashrafia Lahore Deobandio ka idara hai jinhay hum Ahle'Sunnat wa a'Jamat batil firqa mantay hain ke iss najdi toolay ke baray mullao ne aap ke Mirza ke liye jhooti nabuwatt ka raasta khoola aur uss ka hawala aap khud apni post mein de chukay hain. Keyword = Qasim Nanotwi... kuch yaad aya?

 

Mirza Sahib ne TAWAFI pe jo challange dya howa 125 saal ho gay ap loog jawab nhi day ske awr aitrazaat to barh charh k karte hain

 

Kaha hai woh challenge? Zara humein bhi nazara karwaiye ya woh challenge sirf qadiani zanaan'khaano mein hi dikhaya jata hai? Jaldi se woh challenge yaha post kijiye aur ye bhi bataiye ke Mirza ke marne ke baad ab kaun iss challenge ko paish kar raha hai? Mirza Masroor ya koi aur?

 

Jawab ka intizaar rahay ga! (aur shayad sirf intizaar hi rahay ga!)

aik challange meinne bhi likh dya hai KHALIL RANA SAHIB K LIYE wali post mein

 

mulahiza kr lijiye ga awr jab tk uska jawab na la skeen tb tk apni ZUBAAN ko Lagam day kr rakhna

 

Jo challenge waha diya woh zara mukhtasir tareeqay se yaha bhi naql kar dein. Uss topic mein tu aap ne Qadianiyo ki website se articles utha kar paste kar diya hai. Mazeed ye ke challenge aap ne Khalil Bhai ko kiya hai ya mujhay? Chaliye chooriye jisay bhi kiya ho, kiya tu Sunni ko hi hai, so jawab tu munh toor milay ga InshAllah. Aap ko challenge ke jawab ki zyada jaldi tu yaha mukhtasiran hi likh dijiye dobara.

 

Waisay usooli tour per tu pehlay aap ko mere challenge ka jawab dena chahiye ke challenge aap ko pehlay mein ne dya. Khair ye tu usooli baat thi jis se aap shayad waqif hi nahi. Beher'haal aap ki na'waaqfiyat koi uzr nahi iss liye pehlay tu mere challenge ka koi sensible jawab dijiye phir aap ki baari bhi aye gi. Jitnay chahein jawab talb kar lijiye ga.

[Ubaid-e-Raza]

aamir malik sahib. apko sybrite bhai ne kafi bar likha hay k ap wazahat karain apke nazdek konsi tafaser wa ahades ki kutub motabar hain. jab tak ap ye wazahat nahi karain ge tu apko jawab kis se dya jaye?

 

apko aik topic post kya gaya hayat hazrat eesa k bare main ap ne likha ke

 

mein ne yeh nhi kaha tha keh ap loog apne ulma ki tafaseer utha k paish kro

 

imam abu bakkar ibne abi sheba, imam e azam abu hanifa, imam malik, imam quteba, imam jalal ud den sayoti or bohot se deger mohadisen ye sab hamare ulema hain (be shak) tu apke nazdek kon motabar hay?

 

mirza ki kutub ko tu ap khud jhutla chuke hain. is lye ke wahabi ghair muqaliden ki tarha apne ne zara bhar bhi un par bat nahi ki. or quran-o-hades ka kaha (pas apne maan lya k mirza ki batain quran o hades k against hain kyon ke apne 1 hawala bhi ghalat sabit nahi kya). or jab quran o hades se jawab dya gaya tu ap kehte hain ye motabar hain k ye motabar hi nahi tu motabar kon hay un ki list tu pesh kar dain.

 

or tehreef tehreef ki rat lagane se tehreef sabit nahi hogi. ap tehref sabit karain tab tehreef sabit hogi.