Anwar200 مراسلہ: 15 جنوری 2009 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 15 جنوری 2009 mr bud you better go and bring your kafar sheikh amin liar to debate with us? you are such shamless that even your sheikh calling prophet a jadogar (maz Allah) and you are trying to defend such a person who is openly declared himself by his own words a big murtad and ghustakh. we sunnis dont want to waste our time with you yes we want to have a debate with your liar and kafar sheikh amin we sunnis can come to his door for debate ask him if he has the courage to face sunnis? but trust me he will not accept it because he know he is a liar black magician himself and kafar and if your sheikh is not such then tell him to accept our challenge? but he is a mere qadiyani fitna who will never face sunnis. visit the link and see more lies and kufar of your so called sheikh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud مراسلہ: 16 جنوری 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 16 جنوری 2009 tumhara khiyal hay k tumharay jaisay baseless propaganda chalanay walon se jo k apni worthless nature apni baaton se zaahir kar rahay hen, Syedi Amin baat karen gay? unhon ne to apne muridon ko bhi tumhari baaton ka jawab dene se mana farma dia hay. men to apnay maan jaisay Shaikh se laad or maan or kafi arsa se multan na ja saknay ki waja se ye jawab de paya hun--warna tum jaisi jhooti baaten latay ho un par to real Idrisees thooknay k liay dekhna bhi gawara nahi kartay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anwar200 مراسلہ: 16 جنوری 2009 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 16 جنوری 2009 bud tum aik bi baat ka jawab na day sakay aur phir is liye tum ko keha tha ke ager tum zeed karte ho ke sheikh amin jhota nahi to sunnion se aik munzara rakh lay dhod ka dhod paani ka paani ho jaye ga sari duniya ko malom ho jaye ga ke kon scha ha aur kon jhoota ha? munazara is liye kiya jata ha ke ager kisi baat per kisi ko ihktalaf hota ha to amnay samnay baith kar sab ke samnay apnay ihktalaf per khal kar baat ki jaye kiyon ke sheikh amin ke bohat say aqaid kufar per mabni hain to is liye hum sheikh amin se ihktalaf kate hain aur tum log inkar karte ho ke sheikh amin kafar ha lihaza sab se acha hal yeh ha ke sheikh amin aik munazara rekh lay waqat aur munazaray ka mokaam bi wo khud mokarar kar lay.ager sheikh amin ne munazaray mein sabat kar diya ke wo haq per ha to hum sab sheikh amin se maafi talab kar lain gay aur humra dawa bi ghalat ho jaye ga aur aainda se kohi bi sunni sheikh amin per itraz nahi kare ga to is kare khair ke liye sheikh amin siraf aik letter likh day ke wo sunniyon se munazara karnay ke liye tiyar ha.mera yeh mashwara naik naiti per ha ke aik bar siraf aik bar sheikh amin khud apni zuban se tamam itrazat ke jawab munazaray mein ata kar day to sara mamla khush aslobi mein teh ho jaye ga.sab se acha hal yehi ha ke sheikh amin munazara rakh lay aur her baat jo ihtalafi ha per baat kar laye.omeed karta hon ke sheikh amin is babat zaror maidan mein aye ga aur sara masla hal ho gaye ga insha Allah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud مراسلہ: 17 جنوری 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 17 جنوری 2009 tamam jawab de chuka hun lekin tum jhootay ilzamatat gharay ja rahay ho. Wali ko jhoota, kafir, murtid keh kar tum khud yeh sab kuch ho chukay ho kyun k Momin ko kafir kehnay se kufar kehnay walay par palat aata hay Hadith Shareef k mutabiq. tum zalim sirf apna halwa manda bachanay k liay apnay pir-bhaion ko Shaikh Sahib k paas jaanay se roknay k liay buhat bara gunah kar chukay ho. munazra wahan hota hay jahan koi ikhtelafi baat ho-- Syedi Amin ka to sirf Darood sharif or Ishq-i-Rasool pay laganay ka mamla hay, un ka asal mamla to baaton or samajh se agay ka feeling or experience ka mamla hay--ilmul yaqeen se agay ainul or Haqul Yaqeen ka mamla-- abhi bhi shaid waqt ho dunya men kuch bhi ho sakta hay-- REPENT before it is too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhleSunnat مراسلہ: 17 جنوری 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 17 جنوری 2009 tamam jawab de chuka hun lekin tum jhootay ilzamatat gharay ja rahay ho. Wali ko jhoota, kafir, murtid keh kar tum khud yeh sab kuch ho chukay ho kyun k Momin ko kafir kehnay se kufar kehnay walay par palat aata hay Hadith Shareef k mutabiq. tum zalim sirf apna halwa manda bachanay k liay apnay pir-bhaion ko Shaikh Sahib k paas jaanay se roknay k liay buhat bara gunah kar chukay ho. munazra wahan hota hay jahan koi ikhtelafi baat ho-- Syedi Amin ka to sirf Darood sharif or Ishq-i-Rasool pay laganay ka mamla hay, un ka asal mamla to baaton or samajh se agay ka feeling or experience ka mamla hay--ilmul yaqeen se agay ainul or Haqul Yaqeen ka mamla-- abhi bhi shaid waqt ho dunya men kuch bhi ho sakta hay-- REPENT before it is too late Nabi pak alaihiSlam kay farman ka mahfoom hai kay jab tak har cheaz say barh kar Nabi pak AlaihiSlatowasSlam say mohabbat na hu Banda momin hargiz nahe ho sakta. intehai dukh ka muqam hai kay sheikh amin ki wazah kufriyat ka difa kia ja raha hai hona tu yei tha kay aap Allah azzwajal say tauba kartay aur aisay munafiq pay lanat bhaijtay jo Deen e Islam ko barbad karnay ki Kafiro ki sazish ka aala'e kar hai aur Musalmano mai fitna fasad aur gumrahi barpa kar raha hai. magar aap apni ana aur zidd pay aray howay hain mr bud aap nay isay halway manday ka masla kah kar apnay wahabi deobandi honay ka wazah aailan kar dia hai kyukay Wahabi deobandi bhe apnay akabireen kay kufr pay parda dalnay kay leay Ahlesunnat wal jamat pay yehi ilzam lagatay hain tu Alhamdulillah aaik baat tu clear howi kay idreesi fitna bhee munafiqat ki aaik ka'ri hai. rah gaiay saray sawalat kay jawab tu na koi jawab sh amin day sakta hai na day paiay ga wo sirf bholay bholay musalmano ko gumrah kar sakta hai aur saath he un ko hukm daita hai kay bas sun lu pocho mat na kitab parho na hadis diakho jo mai kahta ho wo sun lu naozubillah min zalik. masla yei hai kay aap ko apnay so called pir say mohabbat hai aur Hamain apnay Nabi e kareem alaiiSlatowasSlam ki ghulami say ishq hai aur koi bhee shaks chahay wo hamara apna saga he kyu na ho jis waqt Nabi pak AlaihiSlam kay khilaf Nabi e Pak alaihislam kay deen kay khilaf kuch karay tu aisya shaks ka difah tu kia usay tabah o barbad karna us ki asliyat say sab ko aagah karna aur apnay aur dosray musalmano kay iman ki fikar karna yei hamara farz hai.. Sheikh Amin bala nay Nabi pak AlaihiSlam kay Dafaul bala aur Darood e Taj pay Aaitaraz kia jo us ki Nabi pak alaihisSlam aur Darood e Ishq o Mohabbat say dushmani ka wazah saboot hai yei Darood sharif aur Ishq e Mohabbat ki baat momin kay Moo ki baat hai Munafiqeen ka is say koi laina daina nahee is leay bar bar yei raat laganay ka bajaiay kay sh nay sab ko ishq darod pay laga dia koi ilmi aur tahqeeqi jawab hona chaheay shutarmurgh ki tarah rait mai sir daba kar sab theak hai samghnay say sab theak nahe ho jata.. Sheikh amin kay kufriyat khurafat ki aaik tawweel fahrisht hai jis mai say chand aap ki nazr e sani kay leay darj e zail hain ummid hai is dafa kam az kam difa karnay say pahlay parh zaror lay gain. sh amin ka maslak kia hai ? tareeka kia hai? Murshid ka naam ? kis silsilay mai Khilafat hasil hai aur kis ki dee howi hai? Quran e Azeem nay Insano ko 3 groups mai tafreeq kia Momin Kaafir aur Munafiq sh Amin aur us ki zurriyat say In ki wazah tareef darkar hai kyukay sh amin kay nazdeek gustakhan e Rasul alaihiSlam aur Ghulaman e Rasul alaihiSlam mai koi faraq nahee barha taqreero mai wo sab ko mano sab ko mano kahta raha hai. maslan Sheikh amin kahta hai kay: tableeghiyo wahabiyo shiyo sab say mohabbat karo dil o jan say chaho. lanatulllah alal kazibeen. halakay Rasulullah alaihiSlam nay farmaya kay jis ka mafhoom hai badmazhabo kay janaza tak mai na jaoo un ki ayadat na karo un say shadi bia na karo kahe wo tumhain fitnay mai na dal dain. Sheikh amin kahta hai kay: Nabi pak alaihislam kay baaz Sahaaba Murtad thay.Baaz Sahaba Munafiq thay. sh amin kahta hai Nabi pak alaihislam nay farmaya mujhay marifat kay ilam pay uboor nahe aata ( sirf aur sirf is hadis ka hawala darkar hai maani matlab ki bhas karnay say pahlay maarifat ka matlab kisi lughat mai zaror parh leajay ga) Nabi pak AlaihiSlam kay baray mai sh amean nay jurrat kari aur apnay gandi zuban say bakwas kari, Sahir aur Jaado bhari Aankhain .. mushrikeen e makkah bhee Nabi pak alaihiSlam ko Sahir yani Jadogar he kahtay thay aur Quran e azeem nay sakhti say inka radd farmaya. Sheikh amin kahta hai kay: Multan ki izzat karo Mairay hujray mai Makkah aur Madinah dono hain. Kaun janay yaha Kaun bhaitha hai kabhee Aqa aur Mai kabhee Sirf Aqa he Aqa, Irad Gird hala Nur ka , Allah he janay kaun bashar hai ......... Sheikh amin kahta hai kay: Nabi pak AlaihiSlam Jab say hain Jab say Allah azzwjal hai aur Jab tak Allah azzwajal hai jab tak . Yaad rahay Allah azzwajal kay siwa baki sab Makhlooq hai aur Makhlooq Qadeem nahee Hadis hai sheikh amin nay is bunyad Islami Aqeeday pay hamla kara may Allah azzwajal save us and others from his fitnah amin Sh amin kay baal Nabi pak alaihiSlam ki sunnat kay khilaf aur Aurto ki Mushabhihat mai kyu hai jis pay Sarkar alaihiSlatowaSlam nay laanat farmaiay jo mard aurto jaisa huliya apnaiay. Rukh e Sheikh Mai Mohammad Rukh e Sheikh mai hai Allah ....... naozubillah sheikh amin ka is aur dosray kufriya qasiday ko parhwana aur us pay razi rahna , the list goes on pahlay in bato kay mudallal aur mayari jawab sh amin say wasool kar lain magar us ka jawab hota hai bas mairi suno kisi aur ki na suno na koi kitab parho na ilam e deen hasil karo kay kahee maira sara fraud tum pay wazah ho jaiay.. mr bud sahab yei halway manday ki larai nahee Islam aur Kufr ki larai hai aap ki marzi jis ki safo mai shamil hoo'n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anwar200 مراسلہ: 17 جنوری 2009 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 17 جنوری 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud مراسلہ: 19 جنوری 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 19 جنوری 2009 Suma qasta quloobakum mim badi zalika fahia kal-hijarati au ashadu qaswa. Jo tum Syedi Amin ko samajhtay ho wohi men tumhen or tumharay jaison ko or agar tumhara koi pir is waqt physically zinda hay or is propaganda ki pusht panahi kar raha hay usay samajhta hun. Syedi Amin tumhari har soch se paak hen lekin tum Gustakh-i-Wali-Allah hotay huay meri soch k ain mutabiq ho. Tarikh-i-Tabri men hay k Hazrat Abdullah bin Abdul Muttalib men ek aurat ko noor nazar aya to usne chaha k wo noor us men muntaqil ho jaey, lekin wo Hazrat Amina ki qismat men tha.Lekin tum log har baat ko ulta seedha kar k dekhtay or dikhatay ho har baat ka batangar banatay ho-- Syedi Amin ki pakeeza baaton ki nahi yeh tumhari soch ki kharabi hay--khwamakhwa ki baaten banatay ho tum log or saath saath apni gandi galion se apni pol bhi kholtay jaata ho k tum ho kya Laanat-Allah-i ala-zalimeen Laanat-Allah-i alal-kazibin Laanat-Allah-i alal-kazibin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdur Rehman مراسلہ: 19 جنوری 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 19 جنوری 2009 Suma qasta quloobakum mim badi zalika fahia kal-hijarati au ashadu qaswa. Jo tum Syedi Amin ko samajhtay ho wohi men tumhen or tumharay jaison ko or agar tumhara koi pir is waqt physically zinda hay or is propaganda ki pusht panahi kar raha hay usay samajhta hun. Syedi Amin tumhari har soch se paak hen lekin tum Gustakh-i-Wali-Allah hotay huay meri soch k ain mutabiq ho. Tarikh-i-Tabri men hay k Hazrat Abdullah bin Abdul Muttalib men ek aurat ko noor nazar aya to usne chaha k wo noor us men muntaqil ho jaey, lekin wo Hazrat Amina ki qismat men tha.Lekin tum log har baat ko ulta seedha kar k dekhtay or dikhatay ho har baat ka batangar banatay ho-- Syedi Amin ki pakeeza baaton ki nahi yeh tumhari soch ki kharabi hay--khwamakhwa ki baaten banatay ho tum log or saath saath apni gandi galion se apni pol bhi kholtay jaata ho k tum ho kya Laanat-Allah-i ala-zalimeen Laanat-Allah-i alal-kazibin Laanat-Allah-i alal-kazibin Tareek e Tabari say wo poora hawala man o an naqal farmaaiy gain aap? Aur Nabi pak AlaihiSlam kay Walid e pak kay baray mai naozubillah Astaghfirullah yei bayan karna kay wo aik aurat ki taraf mail howay aap ko is ghatya baat pay zara haya nahee aaiy? Nabi pak alaihiSlam kay walid ka intiqal kia Nabi pak AlaihiSlam ki wiladat e pak say pahlay nahe ho chuka tha? phir sh amin nay jo jhoot Nabi pak alaihiSlam kay walid pay ghar'ha wo sun kay aap ki Ghairat e Imani ko koi josh nahe aaya? ugar isi post mai koi likhta kay sh amin aaik aurat ki taraf rughbat kar raha hai tu aap kay sar ta badan aag nahe lagti kyu kay aap kay nazdeek yei pakeeza batain hain? magar afsos aap shayd bhol gaiay Roz e Mahshar Allah kay pyaray Habib alaihiSlam ko aap nay moo dikhana he hoga , josh aaya tu apnay sheikh par magar Afsoos jis Nabi ka kalma parhnay ka aap ko dawa hai us Nabi alaihiSlato WasSlam kay Walid e Majid kay baydagh kirdar un ki asmat 'o haya pay sh amin ki gandi zuban khultay daikh kar aap ko koi takleef na howi. Mairay Nabi alaihiSlam kay walid e Majid say NIKAH ki khwaish buhat si aurto nay kari magar jis tarah aap kay kazzab sh nay Nabi pak alaihiSlam ki wiladat e pak kay baad syedina Abdullah raziAllah anha jo wafat bhe pa chukay hain unka Dil Mai'l hona aisay ghatya gustakhana alfaz ka istamal kia aur sufaid jhot gharra yei Munafiqat ka he shaiwa hai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anwar200 مراسلہ: 19 جنوری 2009 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 19 جنوری 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud مراسلہ: 20 جنوری 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 20 جنوری 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) Tarikh ki kutab men yeh waqia wiladat say pehlay ka hi hay or Syedi Amin nay bhi isi waqia ka hawala dia hay jab Noor-i-Mustafa (Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam) Hazrat Abdullah say Hazrat Amina men muntaqil hua tha, Nabi Paak ki shaan men yeh waqia bian farmaya Syedi Amin nay, men nay bhi wo cassette men suna tha lekin tum log to baat ko kya se kya bana detay ho Zara socho k tum kya kar rahay ho or Syedi Amin kya kar rahay hen--tum nafrat phela rahay ho or wo logon ko darood shareef par laga rahay hen, un ki waja se croron arbon darood shareef parrha ja raha hay--kis matlab men baat ki jati hay or tum us ko kahan lay jaatay ho--Allah tumhen is ka badla day or tum logon nay jo sachay pakkay Ashiq-i-Rasool Syedi Amin k baray men alfaaz istemal kiay hen Allah tumhen un ka bhi badla day-- meri tum logon k liay ab yehi dua hay. men tum jaison se bezaar hun or tumharay is propaganda se bariat ka izhaar karta hun--Astaghfirullah, Auzu-Billah Edited 20 جنوری 2009 by bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bilal Raza Qadri مراسلہ: 16 فروری 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 16 فروری 2009 ye dakhye yahan per seikh amin Bangra Dance ko AQQA (Salalahooalyewasalam) sunnat kah raha hai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhleSunnat مراسلہ: 26 فروری 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 فروری 2009 jazakAllah khair tamma sunni bhai bahno aur ulama ko Allah azzwajal saalamat rakkhay aamin aur Allah azzwajal apnay Habib e pak alaihiSlam kay sadqay Haq aur Sachai par karband rakkhay aur aisay saray fitno say bachaiay aamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliidreesi مراسلہ: 9 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 9 جون 2009 dakhyn o ron ki khi suni ko begair saboot k manena apki himaket hai. apko Tereekat k assolon ka bhi thik se Ilem ni. ma apko inshort ya khun ga k ap381 a Shah ruln e alam Multan ja ker unko dakh layn? dakhny k bad ager koi or sooret unsi ya un se milti ho to tum jeetay ham hary? wslam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliidreesi مراسلہ: 9 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 9 جون 2009 tumhay koi haq nai pohenchta apni teraf se laga bhuga ker masoom or Rah e haq ki telash kernay walon ko gumrah kernay ki. or tumnay kiya Deen ka Thaika liya hua hai? shrem ni ati yun kafir kahtay huay? kia bohat beray mufti aalem fazel ho? ya hadees ka mefhoom hi kafi tumahary liay. "kisi musalman ko kafer na kaho, ager wo toba per mara to kufer kahnay walay per lega ga" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa Ali مراسلہ: 9 جون 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 9 جون 2009 tumhay koi haq nai pohenchta apni teraf se laga bhuga ker masoom or Rah e haq ki telash kernay walon ko gumrah kernay ki. or tumnay kiya Deen ka Thaika liya hua hai?shrem ni ati yun kafir kahtay huay? kia bohat beray mufti aalem fazel ho? ya hadees ka mefhoom hi kafi tumahary liay. "kisi musalman ko kafer na kaho, ager wo toba per mara to kufer kahnay walay per lega ga" Barhe dinon baad aik nai tarha se Abdullah Taalib sahib ko dekha. Kiun baar baar bhaag jaate hain. Dekhain, aap khud apne zameer se aik sawal karain, kia aap ne hamare tamaam sawalat k jawab is mukhtasar se post main de diye? Nahi Nahi Nahi... Bajae jawab dene ke aap ne Sheikh Amin k mazeed kalamaat youtube par upload kar k apne hi paaon par kulharhi maar di kiunke ap ham un main se bhi ghalat ghalat baaton ki nishan-dahi karenge aur apko phir idhar udhar bhaagna parhega, upload karain shok se karain faida is main hamara hi hoga, kidhar jaenge bhaag kar akhir pakarh to honi hi hai. Aap jitna marzi unki shaan o shokat ka zikr karte rahen lekin jab tak aap hamare sawalaat ka jawab tasalli bakhsh nahi denge aap ko koi faida hasil nahi hoga. Sheikh Amin ka bootha ham dekh chuke hain, dobara dekhne ki koi khwahish nahi. Kisi Musalman ko Kafir na kaho, yeh hamara Mazhab hai. Saath main aik aur usool aap bhool gae woh yeh hai keh Kisi Kafir ko Musalman na kaho, Kafir ko Musalman manne wala Khud Kafir hojata hai. Aap ne Muftiyan e Kiraam ka zikr kia, Alhamdulillah Jaiyad Muftiyan aur Buzurgon k Aqwal Sheikh Amin k hamare paas pohch chuke hain aur jald manzar e aam par aane k baad Idreesiyat ka parda chaak hojaega aur parakhche urh jaenge. Idhar udhar ki na maarain, Insaaf karain, jawab laiye ham aap ka jawab dekh kar yaqin karain bohot khush honge. Qareeban 100 sawalat maine uthae hain jo in 2 articles main jama kiye hain: Article 1: http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?showtopic=6428 Article 2: http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?showtopic=7230 Umeed hai aap hamain mayoos nahi karenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud مراسلہ: 22 اگست 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 اگست 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) I happened to see the hadith about Maarifah in The History of Muslim Philosophy by M.M.Sharif, Volume-I, p.214, which was published in 1963, long before Syedi Amin may have been lecturing. I am talking about the Hadith said to be quoted by Syedi Amin that Rasul-Allah said that full Maarifa of God had not been possible even for him This removes the dubious "foundation" on which these people claim to have "built" their propaganda. They should now wrap up their worthless propanganda, which is the very epitome of mediocrity and ignorance. The door of Tauba is not closed until deathbed; the deathbed however can be the very chair on which one may be sitting right now. Before it is too late, these propagandists should repent their mischief-mongering and ask God for forgiveness and remember Syedi Amin in their prayers bil-khair and some of them may still perhaps start feeling God's blessings on this friend of His with a softening of the heart. I say some of them because I am not sure if true repentence and heart-softening would be possible for all of these stone-hearted people after so much blaspheming against a Wali-Allah. Afterall, such stones are to fuel the hell-fire. For more information and to see the falsehood of these propagandists exposed, visit: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32796 Edited 22 اگست 2009 by bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud مراسلہ: 22 اگست 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 اگست 2009 Silsila Idrisia, as conveyed to us by Syedi Al-Shaikh Al-Hafiz Amin bin Abdul Rahman, accords finality in spiritual and theological matters, after the word of God, to the Last of the Prophets (Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam), whose place nobody else can ever take. Things of tariqat can never be adequately described in words, but to convey some idea of the consonance of Syedi Amin’s spirituality with Sharia, let me give an example: Those followers of Syedi whose spiritual connection with him is refreshed by a visit to his Mehfil in Multan or a Mehfil held under his direction in any city of the world, get awakened for Salat-i-Fajar without any external clock alarm, etc. In fact, at least for a few days after visiting him in Multan, one is transported to a state of profound mental and spiritual peace in which troubles of the world look as petty as they really are, and the only worry is to save oneself from things prohibited in Islam. Whereas these are only two examples of the countless internal benefits of this Silsila that can only be experienced first-hand, there are also many external indications of this Silsila’s thoroughly and intensely Islamic orientation: ~The Mehfils that I just mentioned are arranged in almost all cities of Pakistan and also in many cities throughout the world, where Darood-i-Ibrahimi’s first part and Surah Ikhlas are daily recited thousands of times on beads. ~The basic daily wazaif, included in Ahad (oath), necessary for initiation into the Silsilah, include Ayatal Kursi (three times), La Ilaha Il-Allah (100 times), Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam (100 times), Allah, Allah (100 times, silently), AstaghfirUllah (100 times) and La Ilaha Il-Allahu Muhammadu Rasul-Allah-e-fi kul-i-lamhatin-wa-nafasin adada ma wasiahu IlmUllah (10 times). The oath, administered either by the Shaikh himself or a person deputed by him, requires of a person not to deliberately stop reciting these wazaif once a day without excuse. In addition, Syedi also emphasizes recitation of Subhan-Allah-i-wa-bi-HamdeHi Subhan-Allah-il-Azeem (100 times each after Fajr and Maghrib prayers or at least 100 times a day). ~ Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam is the most basic wazifa of this Silsila, which the Idrisis are encouraged to recite daily in thousands, hundreds of thousands or if possible (by a special spiritual grace made available to some followers of this Silsila) even in millions or billions; (just imagine how many blessings of God would these people be receiving). ~As many as 500 to 1000 people visit Syedi’s place on weekdays and the number multiplies many times on weekends, but care is taken that no disturbance is caused to the neighbours: an internal sound system is used for the lectures and Naats while the loudspeaker is used only for Azan, and the brothers are prohibited from frequenting the neighbourhood or the market in groups. Only in exceptional cases, the visitors are allowed to stay for more than three days. ~While the Syedi’s residence at 381-A, Shah Rukn-i-Alam Colony, New Multan has undergone only minor changes during his last 14 years in the city, the adjacent mosque devoted to visitors has developed into a massive 80- to 90-foot tall structure with four huge halls one above the other, where langar (free food) is available three times a day. The ground hall is used for prayers and Mehfils only, while the other halls are also used for eating and sleeping by visitors. Contributions are voluntary (although those who have FELT Syedi Amin would feel fortunate to be given the chance of sacrificing everything in their possession for him). ~Brothers are encouraged to keep meeting each other and take special care of those attached with the Silsila. ~Women can only meet Syedi’s wife in the physical world, and can maintain only spiritual connection with Syedi through their male relatives. His standard of purdah (veil) can be imagined by the statement he once made that he feels ghairat even if a jooti (open sandal or shoe) of his wife is seen lying somewhere by a brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa Ali مراسلہ: 22 اگست 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 اگست 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) Wow, look what we've got here... Abdullah Taalib seeking support of a Deobandi website. That's valid for you, you're the brothers of Deobandis no doubt. Since Deobandi or other Bid'ati website links are not allowed to put in this site, so this link will be removed. You should rather bring answers here because you know your real enemies are here, looks like you are not man enough to face us here. Anyway, here goes the answers: I happened to see the hadith about Maarifah in The History of Muslim Philosophy by M.M.Sharif, Volume-I, p.214, which was published in 1963, long before Syedi Amin may have been lecturing. M.M.Sharif? Who is he? When was he? What is he? Which Fiqah did he belong to? What is his family background? Where was he from? How authentic he is? Is "The History of Muslim Philosophy" a book of Hadees? whom of Ahle Islam had ever liked this book and gave Sanad to it? Is that a reliable source of Hadees? As for truth, I heard his name and book for the first time, therefore it is unauthentic book if you don't answer the above questions. You should rather bring a "RELIABLE SOURCE". I am talking about the Hadith said to be quoted by Syedi Amin that Rasul-Allah said that full Maarifa of God had not been possible even for him No this is not what he said, let me remind you your Sheikh's words "Aqa also said about himself that not much possession over knowledge of Marifah is under his possession". Sheikh Amin didn't say about "Allah's full Ma'rifa" but he said "not much possession on Marifa (means in any kind any way any mean Marifa is very less)" then what to talk about "full" which he didn't even say, otherwise we would have never captured his this statement. You rather have to proof your Sheikh's claim that "not much possession". Got it? This removes the dubious "foundation" on which these people claim to have "built" their propaganda. They should now wrap up their worthless propanganda, which is the very epitome of mediocrity and ignorance. You brought answer to your homemade foundation here, didn't bring answer about "SHEIKH AMIN'S WORDS", didn't you? See, how easy to answer you all folks. You should rather hear the clips 10 times then go for the answer. Tell me, is your "The History of Muslim Philosphy" more powerful or the Quraan that says "We've taught you whatever you didn't know"? Waiting for the answer. Looks like you will seek deobandi sites again and find, in any way, to degrade Huzur e Pur Noor Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam to proof his knowledge less less and very less (Al-Ayazu Billah) The door of Tauba is not closed until deathbed; the deathbed however can be the very chair on which one may be sitting right now. Before it is too late, these propagandists should repent their mischief-mongering and ask God for forgiveness and remember Syedi Amin in their prayers bil-khair and some of them may still perhaps start feeling God's blessings on this friend of His with a softening of the heart. I say some of them because I am not sure if true repentence and heart-softening would be possible for all of these stone-hearted people after so much blaspheming against a Wali-Allah. Afterall, such stones are to fuel the hell-fire. I'd claimed it earlied as well that I will become an Idreesi if you can bring corrects answers to all of the questions put forward. I will rather ask you if you are seeing yourself on the right path by leaving Quran away and taking support of a unauthentic book and also taking support of Deobandis. Edited 22 اگست 2009 by Mustafa Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa Ali مراسلہ: 22 اگست 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 22 اگست 2009 Silsila Idrisia, as conveyed to us by Syedi Al-Shaikh Al-Hafiz Amin bin Abdul Rahman, accords finality in spiritual and theological matters, after the word of God, to the Last of the Prophets (Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam), whose place nobody else can ever take. Atleast I am better than Sheikh Amin. Alhamdulillah, because I'm not Gustakh and I didn't claim prophethood directly or indirectly. Things of tariqat can never be adequately described in words, but to convey some idea of the consonance of Syedi Amin’s spirituality with Sharia, let me give an example: Those followers of Syedi whose spiritual connection with him is refreshed by a visit to his Mehfil in Multan or a Mehfil held under his direction in any city of the world, get awakened for Salat-i-Fajar without any external clock alarm, etc. Yeah, at first you say "all are just blames no proofs" now that those are proof now you are saying "Tareeqat hai janab hota hai". Are you not saying "In Tareeqat, every Haram becomes Halal". Salat al Fajr? Sheikh Sahib even said "Today Sheikh have ordered not to offer Isha Salah, go and sleep in your houses". What now? Is that a "Tareeqat" also that can not be described? Where is Shariah gone now in the "biggest of all saints"? In fact, at least for a few days after visiting him in Multan, one is transported to a state of profound mental and spiritual peace in which troubles of the world look as petty as they really are, and the only worry is to save oneself from things prohibited in Islam. Whereas these are only two examples of the countless internal benefits of this Silsila that can only be experienced first-hand, there are also many external indications of this Silsila’s thoroughly and intensely Islamic orientation: Yes, we've asked our Buzurg that he is a black magician, a real one. I've met Sheikh Amin's Mureed, they all drink wine and do all the shamlessness and proof they give is that "our Sheikh Amin has allowed to do this". Where is Shariah gone now? and the so call "protection of things prohibited in Islam"? Maybe you are talking about the new artificial Islam that is made by Sheikh sahib himself. ~The Mehfils that I just mentioned are arranged in almost all cities of Pakistan and also in many cities throughout the world, where Darood-i-Ibrahimi’s first part and Surah Ikhlas are daily recited thousands of times on beads. ~The basic daily wazaif, included in Ahad (oath), necessary for initiation into the Silsilah, include Ayatal Kursi (three times), La Ilaha Il-Allah (100 times), Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam (100 times), Allah, Allah (100 times, silently), AstaghfirUllah (100 times) and La Ilaha Il-Allahu Muhammadu Rasul-Allah-e-fi kul-i-lamhatin-wa-nafasin adada ma wasiahu IlmUllah (10 times). The oath, administered either by the Shaikh himself or a person deputed by him, requires of a person not to deliberately stop reciting these wazaif once a day without excuse. In addition, Syedi also emphasizes recitation of Subhan-Allah-i-wa-bi-HamdeHi Subhan-Allah-il-Azeem (100 times each after Fajr and Maghrib prayers or at least 100 times a day). ~ Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam is the most basic wazifa of this Silsila, which the Idrisis are encouraged to recite daily in thousands, hundreds of thousands or if possible (by a special spiritual grace made available to some followers of this Silsila) even in millions or billions; (just imagine how many blessings of God would these people be receiving). Really? Where are those "Wazeefa" now that say "Ya Wajhallaha Ya Wajhannabi" and this "Dakheelallaha Summa Dakheelakum Ya RasoolAllah" though Sheikh Amin says Ya RasoolAllah is shirk. Astaghfirullah. You are misguiding people, with the name of Wazaaif you are spreading Wahabiyat. ~As many as 500 to 1000 people visit Syedi’s place on weekdays and the number multiplies many times on weekends, but care is taken that no disturbance is caused to the neighbours: an internal sound system is used for the lectures and Naats while the loudspeaker is used only for Azan, and the brothers are prohibited from frequenting the neighbourhood or the market in groups. Only in exceptional cases, the visitors are allowed to stay for more than three days. There are the Gustakhis and the claims of Prophethood are correct, right? See, by saying these sweet words you attract people and then attack on their faith. ~While the Syedi’s residence at 381-A, Shah Rukn-i-Alam Colony, New Multan has undergone only minor changes during his last 14 years in the city, the adjacent mosque devoted to visitors has developed into a massive 80- to 90-foot tall structure with four huge halls one above the other, where langar (free food) is available three times a day. The ground hall is used for prayers and Mehfils only, while the other halls are also used for eating and sleeping by visitors. Contributions are voluntary (although those who have FELT Syedi Amin would feel fortunate to be given the chance of sacrificing everything in their possession for him). ~Brothers are encouraged to keep meeting each other and take special care of those attached with the Silsila. I've called in a number of his hujra, nobody allows to talk to him. I called him to ask for the asnwers and also to do a Munazra but his mureeds replied that Sheikh Sahib don't do Munazra. Will you be so kind to give me his personal number? send me in private message if you can. ~Women can only meet Syedi’s wife in the physical world, and can maintain only spiritual connection with Syedi through their male relatives. His standard of purdah (veil) can be imagined by the statement he once made that he feels ghairat even if a jooti (open sandal or shoe) of his wife is seen lying somewhere by a brother. Do women also scare the people? I mean do they also bark like dogs and donkeys and do they also shout really loudly? I also heard that as Sheikh Sahib have allowed the drink and women, his very secret Hujra has got drinks and women... don't ask me how I knew this but I just heard from a reliable source (though I will not ask answer of it, it yet not a proofed evidence). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud مراسلہ: 27 اگست 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 27 اگست 2009 I say that Syedi Shaikh Amin Sahib believes in the finality of Muhammadu Rasul-Allah (Sala-Allahu alaihay wasalam). Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen--may this laanat be on those who allege that he has claimed prophethood and allowed women and drink (Nauzu Billah). I am BurhanUDin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa Ali مراسلہ: 27 اگست 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 27 اگست 2009 Ok Mr Burhan ud Din! You too, as expected, didn't answer any of my questions. You rather exposed yourself by saying "Lanatullahi Alal Kazibin" because you too know he had claim prophethood, youtube of full of proofs just go and write "sheikh amin prophethood" and you will see many clips. And other than this, how is it possible and how can you see he didn't allow drink and women? He rather said "sins are forgiven, if you do anything again they are still forgiven" and "no more tauba now" and he also said "one who is connected his heart with me, whether he do little sins or bigger sins he is kept forgiven by Allah" It clearly means that which ever possible sin is, that is forgiven there experience it no matter how many times you will be forgiven anyway. Then how can you say he didn't allow drink and women? Drink and women are just 2 sins, all little or big sins are allowed for Idreesis. I know you will not answer me again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud مراسلہ: 28 اگست 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 28 اگست 2009 Shaikh kay gird hala hay Noor ka Aks-e-Allah kabhi Aks-e-Aqa kabhi "There is a halo of light around the Shaikh, which sometimes shows a reflection of God (i.e. His Reflected Light, Noor), and sometimes a reflection of His Messenger". This is one of my favourite Manaqib-######-Naats and one of the the most beautiful tafaseer of "Allahu Nooru Samawat-i-wal Ard" that I have ever come across. According to Ayat-i-Noor, there is a halo of God's Light around the earth and the heavens, which are therefore full of potential moments of intimate experience of God. But just as every man is Abdullah, but still a real Abdullah is hard to find, so it is with this halo of Light, which is there throughout the universe but is realised only rarely and that too mostly in the company of God's friends, the Aulia-Allah. Claritas can be described as a kind of radiance whereby the true heart of a thing is revealed. Syedi Amin is blessed with claritas to an exceptional degree due to his connection with Rasul-Allah and the resulting intimacy with God. This is hala (or halo) that we are talking about here. The reflection of God here means an epiphanic moment of intimacy with God, a tajali, which changes the whole atmosphere of Syedi Amin's mehfil, with the addition of a kind of Raub to it (in the Urdu sense of the word and not the Arabic with the alphabets ray, ain, bay), and as I have written earlier that Sufism is about God's Light being reflected by Himself, which is then reflected by the pure heart of His Messenger, then by the purified heart of the Shaikh, and then by the purified heart of a Murid, a reflection of Syedi Rasul-Allah is also visible sometimes in such epiphanic moments. It is ultimately through Rasul-Allah that we realise Allah's blessings, and also His full-of-blessing presence (Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furri مراسلہ: 28 اگست 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 28 اگست 2009 Janab Anwar what ever ur name...mjhy aap sirf itna bata do k jab aapko Sheikh Amin ki baatain samjh nahi aati hai to aap q unke pechay paray huay ho chor do aap...aapko usse kia lena dena k wo kis maslak and kis aqeeday k hai???unhe Apni qabar mai jana hai aur aapnay apni qabar mai...bahtar ye hai k Sheikh Amin me khamiyan nikalnay ki bajaye khud k iman ki kamzori ko note karo aur usko sudharnay ki koshsish karo...wo tmharay liye bhtar hai...n ye jo baatain aap new new laatay hai na k unho ne ye statement dia hai uski mjhy audio laa k suna dain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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