Nigaah-e-Mard-e-Momin sey Badal jaatee hein taqdeerein

[Mutabeh]

Asssalam-o-Alaikum !

Imdad ul Mushtaq sey liaa gyaa aik waqyaa aur uss per tabsraa pesh-e-khidmat hey. Hawalaa jaat mojood hein. Shukria!

[Khalil Rana]

[Mutabeh]

 

 

Jiss kee Bhee baat quran-e-pak aur sunat-e-rasool sey takraatee ho uss ko chor denaa chaheyey jub hum per haq wazeh ho jaey.

Ehsan Elahee Zaheer hon yaa koee aur....

Baaqee rahee takfeer kee baat to hum kisee bhee makhsoos shaks kee takfeer sey manaa kertey hein.

[Khalil Rana]

[Mujtaba]

to all Muslims

 

Mutabeh shaib aap nay tauseef ul rehman rashdi kay tabsaray kay sath waqea naqal kiyya hay. waisay aap kay tausif ul rehman shaid talib ul rehman kay saath hee kissi aik teacher say farigh ul tehseel huway thay.

 

kiun keh donon ka lab-o-lehja same hay aur kaafi hud tak darja-e-tehzeeb aur zuban ka istimal bhi same hee hay.......

 

 

anywayz kuch mazeed waqeat main bhi naqal kar raha hoon magar hawala jaat add nahi kar saka filwaqt. jaisay hee millain gay kar doon ga.

 

inn main bhi wohi kuch hay keh na tableegh ki zaroorat na kuch aur siarf Nigah e Molvi say hee logg musalman ho gaye.

 

 

inn par aap ka ya tauseef ul rehman rashdi ka tabsara darkaar hay

 

 

iss kay baad bhi yeh shair parhnay ko dil karta hay

 

Garr Nigaah-e-Mard e Momin say badal jaati hain taqedeerain

Molvi kiun kartay phirtay hain taqreerain o tableeghain???

 

 

daikhain deobundi iss ka kaya jawab daitay hain

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Baat Chali Hai Kutey Sey... Kis Sey?? Kuttey Sey... Khatam Kahan Hoyi.. Ikhtyarat-e-Mustafa Per...

 

 

Zikr Rokey Fazal Kaatey Naqs Ka Jooya Rahay

Phir Kahay Mardak Key Hoon Umat Rasool Allah Ki

 

Tujh Sey Aur Jannat Sey Kiya Matlab Wahabi Dour Hoon

Hum Rasool Allah Key Jannat Rasool Allah Ki

 

oohhoo.. Yeh Main Kiya Likh Diya.. Wahabi Kahay Ga.. Shirk Ho Gaya.. Jannat Aur Rasool Ki...

Tu Merey Aaqa Aalahazrat Ney Yahan Bhi Fermaya..

 

Shirk Thehrey Jis Mein Tazeem-e-Habib

Us Burey Mazhab Pey Laanat Kejiye

 

oohhoo.. Yeh Main Kiya Likh Diya.. Wahabi Kahay Ga.. Laanat Tu Kafir Per Bhi Nhin Kerni Chahye...

Tu Merey Aaqa Aalahazrat Azeem ul Martabat Ney Yahan Fermaya..

 

Bad Hain Mager Unhi Key Hain Baghi Nhin Hain Hum

Najdi Na Aaye Us Ko Yeh Manzil Khater Ki Hai

 

Tufffff Najdiyat Na KUFR NA ISLAM SUB PEY HARF

KAFIR IDHER KI HAI NA UDHER KI ADHAR KI HAI

 

Kafir Tu Operi Jahanam Mein Rahain Gey.. Najdiyat Us Sey Buhut Nechay Hai...

 

 

Khair.. Bat Kahan Sey Shurow Hoyi Kuttey Sey... Nigah Kis Ki Pari? Allah Key Wali Ki Nigah Per Gayi... Yani Allah Key Dost Ki... Allah Key Pyarey Ki Nigah Per Gayi...

[Mutabeh]

Janaab aap nein Sahee bukharee kee jiss hadees kee janib ishaaraa kiaa hey uss key mutaliq mein insha Allah jald hee aik thread post karoon gaa. iss topic per janab khalil rana sahib sey urdupages per kuch had tak baat ho chukee hey.

Musalmanon kaa shirk kernaa nabi key dor-e-mubarik key baad iss per mein jald hee aik thread shuruu karoon gaa. Insha Allah

Ashab-e-Kahf walee baat kaa mein hawalon key saath jawaab deney kee jald hee kosish karoon gaa.

Edited 25 نومبر 2007 by Mutabeh

[Mujtaba]

Mutabeh sahib main aap ki tawajoh dilana chahta hoon keh aap ka ya Tauseef ul rehman rashdi ka tabsara unn waqeayt par darkaar hay jo main nay post kiyya.

 

meharbani farma kar kuch time nikal kar iss par bhi kuch tehreer farmain ta keh deobundion ki mazeed jag hansaai ho sakay.....umeed hay aap apnay nadir khayalaat say nawazain gay

(waisay Sunnion ko Mushrik saabit karnay kay liye tau aap kay pass buhat time hay.......umeed hay apnay chacha zaad bhaion deobundion kay liye bhi kuch waqt nikaalain gay)

 

 

Ashab-e-Kahf walee baat kaa mein hawalon key saath jawaab deney kee jald hee kosish karoon gaa.

 

Aur Ashab-e-Kahf kay Kuttay kay baaray main aap zaroor post karain laikin kuch hamari bhi sun lain. phir aap bhi jawab day dijiye ga

 

 

Tafseer Jalalayn

تفسير تفسير الجلالين/ المحلي و السيوطي (ت المحلي 864 هـ)

 

 

Translation of above ref.

And you would have supposed them

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Buhut Hi Khoob Mujtaba Bhayi... Allah Aapko Jaza-e-Khair Ata Fermaye.. Aameen Bijahin Nabiyil Aameen

 

Jee Mutabeh Sahib.... Kis Ki Nigah Peri? Kuttey Ki Nigah... Kis Per Peri?? Allah Key Waliyon Per.. Rutbey Dekhye... Kutta Janati Ho Gaya.. Subhan Allah Farishtey Karwatein Badal Rahay Hain...

 

Yani Phir Wali Ki Nigah Sey Tu Kutta Pata Nhin Janat Mein Kiya Maqam Paye Ga.. (Bey Shak Allah Bara Fazal Wala Hai.. Jisko Jo Rutba Dey Dey)

 

Aub Aap Key Hawalon Ka Intezar Hai...

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Mutabeh Sahib..

Aap Ney Topic Change Ker Diya... Yahan Topic Shirk Nhin Balkey Ikhtayarat Hai.. Is Liye Yahan Aapko Umat-e-Muslima Key Shirk Kerney Na Kerney Ka Jawab Nhin Diya Jaye Ga.. Is Key Liye Alag Sey Topic Mein Baat Hogi.. Mager Jab Yeh Topic Complete Hoga... Isliye Aapki Post Ko Main Ney As A New Topic Split Ker Diya Hai..

 

Shirk Wali Baat Meri Post Mein Under Line Thi Tu Us Per Aap Ikhatayarat Sey Shirk Ko Sabit Kerein Gey.. Aur Iska Jawab Her Sorat Aapkey Zimey Hai... Kiyon Key Aap Ney Apni 1st Post Mein Likha Key Wali Ki Nigah Sey Kutey Ka Rutba Shirk Ki Taleem Hai... Tu Aap Ko Apni Is Baat Per Daleel Deni Perey Gi...

 

Albata ilzami tor per Kuch Points Mein Ney Aapki Post Sey Cut Kiye Hai.. Jo Key Aapki Sabiqa Post Ki Akhri Line Ka Ilzami Jawab Hai..

 

 

Imam Ibn-e-Hajar (Aleh Rahma) Kiyon??? Quran Ya Sahi Hadees Sey Daleel Kiyon Nhin? Jis Mein Sahaba-e-Karam Ka Likha Hoo???

 

 

Hanafi Aalim... talinenoor sahib tu Inko Hanafi Man'ney Key Liye Tayar Nhin Hain.. Aap Hanafi Likhtey Hain.. Shayed Unko Quran-o-Sahi Hadees Sey Inkey Hanafi Honey Ki Daleel Nhin Mili.. Aapko Mil Gayi Hai...

 

Aur Last Mein Aapki Akhri Baat Ko Quote Kerta Hoon..

 

 

Isey Kehtey Hain.. Jab Jawab Na Hoo Tu Quran Ka Naam Ley Du.. Aur Jab Apni Baari Hoo Tu Talinenoor sahib Aahadees Per Inhi Ki Gawahi Ko Tasleem Kertey Hian.. Balkey Her Ghair Muqalid...

 

Quran Sey Zara Wuzo, Ghusal, Azan, Namaz Key Arkaan Waghera Mein Sey Koi Aik Cheez Tu Nikaal Dein...

Aub Aap Per.. Chikralviyon Wala ilzam... Hadees Tu Kam-o-Baish 250 Saal Baad Likhi Gayi?? Us Key Sahi Ghalat Honey Ki Kiya Daleel Hai?

 

Yani Husn Aapka Jo Karishma Saaz Kerey

 

Is Liye Fazool Batoon Sey Istadlal Ki Bajaye Aap Sahi Hawalon Sey Sabit Kerein Key Kutta Janati Nhin Tha.. Mazeed Jo Oper Hawaley Bayan Howay Unko Ghalat Kehiye.. Ya In Mufasireen-e-Karam Per Hukm Lagaye Shirk Ka...

 

Yeh Tu Abhi Wali Per Baat Hoyi Hai... Abhi Tu Ikhtayarat-e-Anbiya Baaqi Hain.. Us Per Tu Sub Sey Aehm Baat Hogi... Insha Allah

[Mujtaba]

Mutabeh sahib aap say main nay aik guzarish ki thi keh unn waqeat par bhi kuch garma garam tabsara ho jaye aap kay Muqarrar tauseef u rehman rashdi ka.

 

kiun keh unn ki zuban main itni chashni hay keh main uss tarah ka tabsara nahi kar sakoon ga jo woh apnay lachay daar andaz main kar kay deobundiyyat ka bairra gharaq kar dain gay.

 

Waisay bhi abb aap ka mission tau ho gaya Sunnion ko Mushrik saabit karnay ka. abb aap kay pass time hee time ho ga keh aap unn waqeat par tabsara karain.

 

waisay aik waqea aur bhi hay Nazron kay kamal ka inhi tuaseef ul rehman rashdi ki zubani woh main Insha ALLAH koshsish karoon ga keh kal add karoon audio format main.

 

Aik Sawal

 

Waisay aik baat hay yeh Ashraf thanvi jis ko aap kay tauseef ul rehman rashdi sahib mushrik aur Shirk ki taleem dainay wala bata rahay hain.

 

uss ko aur iss kay ilawa doosray deobundi akabir ko aap kay Imam-ul-Asar Ehsan Zaheer nay Albarailviyyah main REHMATULLAH ALAIH likha hay.

 

 

Tau kaya aap yeh batana pasand karain gay keh MUSHRIK KO REHMATULLAH ALAIH kehna jaiz hay ya nahi aur jo uss ko REHMATULLAH ALAIH kahay woh Muslim hay ya Mushrik???

 

Quran-o-Hadees ki roshni main jawab dain.

 

 

Abb kuch aap ki recent post kay baaray main jis main aap nay Ummat-e-Muslima khasoosan AhleSunnat wa Jamaat ko Mushrik sabit karnay kay liye apni Ilmi Qabliyyat ka izhar kiyya hay.

 

main filwaqt siraf iss topic say related baat kay baaray main arz karoon ga

 

 

iss silsilay main meri guzarish aap say yeh hay

mazeed yeh keh aap ham par aitraz na karain balkeh unn Mufasireen par aiteraz karain jinhon nay yeh likha hay. Kaya Imam Jalal-ul-Deen Suyuti , Imam Jalal-ul-Deen Mehli , Imam Ismail Haqqi aur Hafiz Ibne Kathir nay Quran ki tafseer main apni raye ka istemal kiyya hay???

 

aur jaisa keh RASOOL ALLAH nay farmaaya.

 

من فسرالقرآن برایہ فلیتبوء مقعدہ من النار

 

means Jau Quran ki tafseer apni raye say karray uss ka thikana Jahannum hay

 

 

tau agar aisay Jaleel ul Qadar Mufasireen nay yeh likha hay tau kissi base par hee likha ho ga ya apni taraf say likh diyya???

 

aur agar aap ka jawab haan main ho tau phir inn Mufasireen ka injaam bata dain hadees ko samnay rakh kar.

[Mutabeh]

Insa Allah koshish ho gee keh agli post mein khaas khaas eitraazaat kaa jawaab doon.

Kal tak intezaar keejyey.Shukria!

[Mutabeh]

Edited 28 نومبر 2007 by Mutabeh

[Mujtaba]

 

Mutabeh sahib aap nay kaafi lamba reply kiyya hay.. Iss liye main aap ko iss ka reply bhi kuch sakoon say doon ga

filhaal tau jaisa keh main nay kaha tha keh Nazron kay kamal kay baaray amin aik waqea aur bhi tauseef ul rehman rasdi ki zuba main post karoon ga woh kar raha hoon

 

aap bhi suniye aur comments wohi hain jau aap post kar chukay hain. agar mazeed kuch likhna chahain tau aap ki marzi

 

nazron_ka_kamal.mp3

iss say pehlay wohi kuttay wala hawala tha phir yeh aur aagay RASOOL ALLAH(saw) kay chacha Abbu Talib ka waqea hay aur wohi comments hain

 

Aap nay Nazron kay kamal kay baaray main doosray waqeat par tuaseef ul rehman rashdi kay tabsaray kay na honay ka zikr kiyya hay.

 

tau iss silsilay main arz hay keh aap khud bhi Aaqil hain aur khair say sonay par suhaaga keh Ghair Muqallid bhi hain. tau aap tau khud bhi iss par tabsara kar saktay hain.

 

aap ko kissi aalim kay qaul ki kaya zaroorat hay jab keh aap kay pass Quran o Hadees ki wazeh taleemat bhi mojood hain. aur aap kiun tauseef ul rehman ki taqleed o pairwee kar kay taqleed(jis ko aap shirk kehtay hain) ki taraf ja rahay hain.

 

 

tau aap hee kuch tabsara kar dain keh

 

yeh sub kuch Quran o hadees kay mutabiq hay ya nahi???

aur

kaya iss main wohi Nazron kay kamal aur Shirk ki taleem nahi di ja rahi jis ka aap kay tauseef ul rehman zikr kar chukay hain???

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Aaj Is Topic Per Dobarah Nazer Peri Hai... Mutabeh Sahib Key Last Reply Ko Taqreban 3 Months Ho Gaye Hain... Mager Unho Ney Waqiya Likh Ker Phir Apni Baat (Yani Shirk) Ko Proof Nhin Ker Sakey...

 

Khair Talinenoor Sahib Aap Apney Bhayi Ki Himayat Mein Kuch Zaur-e-Qalam Aazmain... Aap Ka Bhi Tu Yahi Aqeedah Hoga Key Wali Key Dekhney Sey Kisi Ki Taqdeer Badli Tu Shirk Ho Jaye Ga... Ya Mutabeh Sahib Ki Bat Quran-o-Hadees Key Khilaf Hai?