Muhammad Ali ko Challange

[hanfigroup]

Muhammad Ali,

tum ny jo bakwas dosary post me key, aur lekha Nazubillah Deoband ny Ambiya ko b na chorA,  Jo galian Nazubillah Deoband ny di hyn, unky scan yahan laga dy,  aur

1)

Agar tum scan laga dou to jo tum fatwa lagao mujy b wohe gabool hoga

2)

Agar scan na laga saky tu, al elania tobba nama shaya kar k barelviyat py lanat bej k sahe islam Qabool kar leyna

3)

jo Galiyan tum scan lagany lago, unsy Barlvi Ulma ka mutafik hona zarur hy hona zaruri hy,  aur agar wo deoband barelvi ikhtalaf main shamal nahe huwa tu

main tum ko najaiz harami lekhoon ga, aur tum ko qabool karna pary ga.

Yaad rahy deoband barelvi ikhtalafat jo ahmad raza ny Hasmul Haraman main lekhi, enky elawa agar koe tum paish karty ho TU deoband ko kafir kahny sy pahly Ahmad Raza khan barelvi py kufar ka fatwa dyna hoga phir doband py bahas karna hogi.  

Ab agar tum scan nahe lagaty yan mairy chalange sy bagh jatay ho.   TU SAMAJ LYNA TUM HARAMI HO, JIS KO NAJAIZ OLAD KAHTY HY.

 

Muhammad Ali tum saeedi smyt jis ki b marzi help lysakty 

 

Thanks

Edited 18 فروری 2020 by Qadri Sultani
اور آپ تھانوی کے ماموں نہ بنیں

[hanfigroup]

Qadri sultan.

Koe Sharam hoti hy koe haya hoti hy.

Pahly b muj sy zalil huwa aur msalsal ho rahy ho.

Ashraf ali thanvi hamary akabar hyn tum Muhammad Ali ko Apna akabar maan lo.

Jahal bidati n.a. aqal n.a shaour

Esleye. Fazool main comments karny ki zarurat nahe.

Edited 19 فروری 2020 by hanfigroup

[MuhammedAli]

16 hours ago, hanfigroup said:

Muhammad Ali,

tum ny jo bakwas dosary post me key, aur lekha Nazubillah Deoband ny Ambiya ko b na chorA,  Jo galian Nazubillah Deoband ny di hyn, unky scan yahan laga dy,  aur:
1) Agar tum scan laga dou to jo tum fatwa lagao mujy b wohe gabool hoga
2) Agar scan na laga saky tu, al elania tobba nama shaya kar k barelviyat py lanat bej k sahe islam Qabool kar leyna
3) jo Galiyan tum scan lagany lago, unsy Barlvi Ulma ka mutafik hona zarur hy hona zaruri hy,  aur agar wo deoband barelvi ikhtalaf main shamal nahe huwa tu.
main tum ko najaiz harami lekhoon ga, aur tum ko qabool karna pary ga.
Yaad rahy deoband barelvi ikhtalafat jo ahmad raza ny Hasmul Haraman main lekhi, enky elawa agar koe tum paish karty ho TU deoband ko kafir kahny sy pahly Ahmad Raza khan barelvi py kufar ka fatwa dyna hoga phir doband py bahas karna hogi.
Ab agar tum scan nahe lagaty yan mairy chalange sy bagh jatay ho.   TU SAMAJ LYNA TUM HARAMI HO, JIS KO NAJAIZ OLAD KAHTY HY.
Muhammad Ali tum saeedi smyt jis ki b marzi help lysakty.
Thanks

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1) Ashraf Ali Thanvi ka RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ko gali dena:

https://www.scribd.com/document/362180623/Book-Hifz-Ul-Iman-Author-Ashraf-Ali-Thanvi-Pblshr-Dar-Ul-Kutb-Deoband-UP-Print-New-Page15

Aur Thanvi kay mureed ka iqrar karna kay yeh ibarat gustakhana heh:

https://www.scribd.com/document/369688174/Thanvi-s-Mureed-Saying-Prophetic-Knowledge-Being-Compared-is-Disrespectful

Hussain Ahmad Madani - the Bakkar-Baaz - likhta heh kay aisa tashbeeh wasteh heh agar mana itna wasteh hota toh ihtimal thah kay janwaroon ... kay ilm kay barabar ilm e RasoolAllah ko kar deeya:

https://www.scribd.com/document/369687203/Shahab-Saqib-Aisa-Not-in-Itna-is-Qadr-but-for-Tashbeeh

Manzoor Nomani likhta apnay ustad Hussain Ahmad Madani kay muqabileh mein likhta heh kay aisa mana itna, is-qadr, aur yeh mein heh Tashbeeh wasteh nahin heh:

https://www.scribd.com/document/369685892/Hifz-Ul-Iman-s-Aisa-is-in-Meaning-of-Yeh-Even-a-Foolish-Person-Would-Know

https://www.scribd.com/document/369685817/Aisa-Without-Jaisa-is-Not-for-Tashbeeh-in-Statement-of-Hifz-Ul-iman

Hasal yeh huwa kay Thanvi nay gaali deeh, mureed nay gaali samaj kar advice deeya kay change kar loh, ghaali ko islam bananay waly dajjaloon nay, yehni Madani aur Nomani.

Nomani nay aisa ko itna kay manay mein bataya aur kaha agar tashbeeh mein hota toh Kufr thah. Madani nay kaha kay aisa mana tashbeeh wasteh heh agar itna mein hota toh barabari hoti [aur phir kufr lazam hota].

Yehni Nomani Dajjal nay Madani dajjal ko joota sabat kar deeya aur Madani Dajjal nay Nomani dajjal ko joota sabat kar deeya ... aur yeh sabat kar deeya kay aisa tashbeeh, itna, is-qadr, yeh, jis mana mein ho sab mein gustakhi heh aur RasoolAllah ko gaali heh.

RAHA MERA FATWAH:

Joh banda Thanvi ki is ghaali ko ayn Islam janay, ya is ka difa karay, aqil ho balagh ho, aqal salamat ho, itla e Shar'ri aur ihtimam e hujjat ho janay kay baad Thanvi ki ibarat ko ghaali towheen gustakhi aur Kufr aur Islam kay bilqul khilaaf nah janay woh qattan Kafir heh. Aur joh yeh sab jaan kar aur samaj kar aur is par bi ba-khabr ho kay Thanvi ko har kism ki hadayat ki ja chuki thi aur ihtimam e hujjat ho chuki thi magr phir bi toba nah kee aur kufr par data raha ... aur banda phir bi Thanvi ko Musalman janay woh bi Kafir heh. Aur joh aisay kafir kay kufr mein shaq karay woh bi kafir heh.
 

[hanfigroup]

tahrir main ghalti py matla karyn

[MuhammedAli]

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tum ny jo bakwas dosary post me key, aur lekha Nazubillah Deoband ny Ambiya ko b na chorA,  Jo galian Nazubillah Deoband ny di hyn, unky scan yahan laga dy,  aur:
1) Agar tum scan laga dou to jo tum fatwa lagao mujy b wohe gabool hoga.
2) Agar scan na laga saky tu, al elania tobba nama shaya kar k barelviyat py lanat bej k sahe islam Qabool kar leyna.
3) Jo Galiyan tum scan lagany lago, unsy Barlvi Ulma ka mutafik hona zarur hy hona zaruri hy,  aur agar wo deoband barelvi ikhtalaf main shamal nahe huwa tu

Mein nay ibarat ka pdf link deeya heh ... kitab ka link nahin. Kitab ka front cover aur phir woh page jis ki zeroorat heh woh heh ... poori kitab ka link kahan deeya heh.

Aap nay likha thah kay scan laga doon aur fatwah doon toh qubul hoga: "Agar tum scan laga dou to jo tum fatwa lagao mujy b wohe gabool hoga." Mein nay scan bi laga deeya aur Fatwah Kufr bi jari kar deeya. Abh batahen qubul heh ya nahin? Aur Ahle Sunnat mutafiq bi hen kay yeh ghali heh jis say RasoolAllah ki towheen kee ja rahi heh. Mein nay aap ki teenoon condition puri kar deenh. Abh maan loh warna iqrar kar loh kay kay aap us halal kay mada say aap nahin banay jis say ba-haya aur wada par poora utarnay wala utarta heh.

Mein aik dafa phir Ashraf Ali Thanvi ka RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ko gali denay ka scan bi laga deta hoon: https://www.scribd.com/document/362180623/Book-Hifz-Ul-Iman-Author-Ashraf-Ali-Thanvi-Pblshr-Dar-Ul-Kutb-Deoband-UP-Print-New-Page15

Agar ratti bar bi apnay moon say niklay ilfaaz ki pasdari ho toh qubul karo gay. Rahi wazahatenh karnay ki baat toh janab aap nay yeh kab mutalba keeya thah kay mein wazahat karoon kay kaisay gaali aur gustakhi heh ... aap nay toh sirf scan MANGA THAH. AUR FAISLA MUJ PAR CHORA THAH KAY JOH TUM FATWAH LAGAHO WOH AAP KO QUBUL HOGA. Mein nay scan page kay saath Fatwah jari kar deeya. Mufti e Shara o Qadhi par lazam nahin kay woh zahir karay kay kis bina par faisla keeya aur nah yeh aap ki request thee.

Fazal e Barewli Ulamah e Hijaaz Ki Nazr Mein poori ibarat - https://archive.org/details/FazalEBarelviUlamaEHijazKiNazarMe/page/n189/mode/2up - Janab woh toh Hifz ul-Iman ki ibarat ki Taweel ka zikr heh jissay aik Thanvi sahib kay dajjal wakeel Khalil Ahmad Saharanpuri nay pesh keeya ... JOH KHALIL AHMAD SAHARANPURI NAY TAWEEL KI IS KA ILM THANVI SAHIB KO BI ILM NAH THAH ... Yehni jis Qari nay ibarat likhi us ko bi maloom nahin kay meri ibarat ka mafoom kia thah aur heh magr us kay dajjal dost ko maloom ho gaya ... Thanvi Sahib ka yahi mana hota toh woh bi kartay jab keeh nahin toh thah nahin. Kitab Fazal e Bareilly ... mein joh kuch likha heh woh Taweel kay mutabiq heh ibarat hifz ul imaan kay oopar kuch nahin likha. Balkay musannaf Fazal e Bareilly Ulamah ... mein wazia likh rahay hen kay Khalil Ahmad Saharanpuri nay Ahle Sunnat kay nazriat ko pesh keeya aur Deobandiyat ko chupaya. Chalen bil farz kar bi letay toh kia yeh is ibarat say sabat hoti heh: https://www.scribd.com/document/362180623/Book-Hifz-Ul-Iman-Author-Ashraf-Ali-Thanvi-Pblshr-Dar-Ul-Kutb-Deoband-UP-Print-New-Page15 Is ka faisla toh ilm wala aur haq parasti wala banda karay ga.

Maulana Abdul Bari Firangi Mahalli (rahimullah) nay baad mein Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat kay mowaqif ki taeed ki aur qubul keeya is ka subut kutub say sabat heh aur kaheen dafa is forum par pesh ho chuka. Kitab kay musannaf nay waqia ka zikr is wasteh keeya kay logoon ko ba-khabr keeya jahay kay yaq dam bad-zann nahin hona chahyeh balkay waqt dena chahyeh. Yehni samja rahay thay kay har masla har kissi ki samaj mein nahin ata toh fori tor par bad-gumani nah keren aur yahi woh Ala Hadhrat ka tareeka bata rahay hen. Is waqia kay baad kia huwa us ka zikr nah keeya keun kay sabaq joh dena chahtay thay woh is waqia kay bayan say hasil hota heh.

Aakhir mein Hifz ul Iman ki ibarat ki wazahat aur Taweelen joh Deobandiyoon nay ki hen un ka radd mein nay pehlay hi keeya huwa heh ... aap parh lenh. Taqriban 18 article hen is mozoo par jin say chand ko yahan paish kar raha hoon. Waisay toh faisala aap kay mutalbay kay mutabiq ho chooka. Ibarat aur Fatwah donoon laga deeyeh. Magr phir bi wazahati articles pesh e khidmat hen. Is kay baad abh sirf meri taraf say qubul karnay ka mutalba hoga. Koi aur baat nahin hogi.

 

Edited 19 فروری 2020 by MuhammedAli

[MuhammedAli]

MuhammedAli:

Salam alaykum,
Ghaliyon say ijtinab keren.  Deen wasteh bi kohi kissi ko gali deta heh. Thora sabr aur apnay andar sukoon paida keren. Ghali denh gay toh gunah mein izafa aur dosra banned kar denh gay.

HanafiGroup - urf - Gaali wali Sarkar:

Tum barelvi hamary akabar ko galiyan dyn aur mujy nasiyat karyn.
Pahly apny giry ban main dekho phir baat karo.  Mairy akabar ko Bura kahny tum logo ny start keya mainy nahe.
Mainy abi tak Ahmad raza yan baki barelvi ulma ko ghalat laqab sy nahe bulaya.

MuhammedAli:

Sahih baat heh, har aik ko apnay ki towheen besati aur joh ussay gali dee jati heh, parwa hoti heh. Ghayr ki kissi ko parwa nahin hoti. Aap kay Maulviyoon nay RasoolAllah ko gaali deeh ham ko dukh huwa aur heh jis waja say ham aap ko Maulviyon ko thoray sakht ilfaaz likh detay hen. Aur keun kay Maulvi aap kay hen is waja say joh aap ka heh us ki towheen ka aap ko dukh hota heh.

Farq sirf yeh heh kay meray apnay meray Nabi sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam hen aur woh aap kay leyeh ghayr hen is leyeh aap kay maulvi un ko gali denh joh marzi likhen aap ko dukh nahin hota, gussa bi nahin aata hoga, balkay aap ko toh kushi hoti hogi kay aap nay apnay nay kissi ghayr ko khoob baten sunahi. Thanvi, Dehalvi waghayra aap kay hen is leyeh aap ko dukh hota heh jab ham thora us par sakht kalami kartay hen.

Jahan taq bura start karnay ki baat heh toh janab aap kay apnay hamaray Nabi ko pehlay gali nah detay toh ham aap kay buttoon ko kuch nah kehtay. Magr jab shuruwat aap say huwi toh ham nay toh apnay Nabi ki shaan azmat izzat ka difa karna heh aur keren gay aur kartay rahen gay. Aur joh kutta un ko bhonkay ham us kay dant par kick mar kar moonh band karnay mein masroof rahen gay.

Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat ko yahan par shahid aap nay kissi buray laqab say nahin bulaya - ban kay khauf say aap kay achay insaan honay ki waja say nahin. Janab aap ka wuzu, namaz, hajj, roza, zakaat us waqt taq muqakamal nahin hoti jab taq un ko gali nanh denh lenh. Yeh sirf aap ka haal nahin baqiyon ka bi yahi heh. Mein bi aik zamana pehlay Deobandi thah aur jis bughz aur adawat ko aap nay dil mein jagga deeh heh issee bughz aur dushmani mein anda reh chuka hoon aur subho shaam Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat ki towheen karna mera pesha thah. Aap idhar mujjay nah batahen aap Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat ko gali nahin detay. Mein achi tara janta hoon app ka khameer kitna ganda heh aur aap ki asliyat kia heh. Aap ka un ko gaali dena ... ham kuch nahin kahen gay ... aap ki gaali kay badlay Allah say jang melay gi ... aur Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat ko un ka ajr. Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat ka kasoor sirf itna heh kay inoon nay Thanvi ki galiyoon par us ki pakr ki. Khalil Ahmad Ambethvi ki galiyon par awaam kay ba-kahbr keeya aur imaan ko bachaya. Is waja say aap un ko gaali detay hen aur nafrat kartay hen aur apnay Kafiroon ki muhabbat mein AwliyahAllah ki dushmani mein anday ho chukay hen.

[hanfigroup]

Admin mguhal aur qadri,

Muhammad ali ko warn karyn ki mairi post ka to the point jwab dy, ye puri islamimehfil aur books k link na post kary. 

 

[MuhammedAli]

4 hours ago, hanfigroup said:

Admin mguhal aur qadri,

Muhammad ali ko warn karyn ki mairi post ka to the point jwab dy, ye puri islamimehfil aur books k link na post kary.

Janab aap mujjay gali nahin denh gay. Keun jhoot boltay hen kal say bethay mughallazaat bak rahay hen sirf likh nahin rahay warna mughallazat ka na bakna aap jaisay bachpan mein abused banday wasteh aisa fitrati amal heh jistera jaandar ka sans lena. Sirf ban kay dar say khamosh hen. Balkay mein toh baray daway say keh raha hoon kay aap nay mujjay kafi galeen likhi bi hoon gi magr second reading mein un ko hifz kar deeya heh ... keun kay phakkar baaz kay dil ki aag gali denay say buj jaati heh aur jab us ko hosh ata heh toh phir us ko ghalti ka ihsas hota heh. Mujjay batahen Dar ul-uloom Deoband kay farigh al-tahseel phakkar baaz sahib kia yeh jhoot heh.

jhoot keun bol rahay hen ... Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat (rahimullah) nay kahan par likha heh kay Sunni aurat ko Deobandi/Wahhabi say nikkah karna kuttay neechay dena heh. Woh zubaan joh aap kay abba hazoor aap ki amma hazoor wasteh istimal kartay rahay hen us ko Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat rahimullah say keun mansoob kar rahay hen. Agar khameer ganda nahin toh sirf is ko hi sabat kar doh. Yeh zuban Sayyidi Ala Hazrat Imam Ahmad Raza Khan al-Qadri rahimullah ki nahin heh. Yeh Deoband kay phakkar baz ganday khameer waloon ki heh.
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Nechay joh link hen yeh scanned pages pdf mein hen ... kitab ka front cover or ur matlooba safa woh pdf file bana kar upload keeya huwa heh ... yeh puri kitab ka links nahin hen.

Ashraf Ali Thanvi ka RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ko gali dena:

https://www.scribd.com/document/362180623/Book-Hifz-Ul-Iman-Author-Ashraf-Ali-Thanvi-Pblshr-Dar-Ul-Kutb-Deoband-UP-Print-New-Page15

Aur Thanvi kay mureed ka iqrar karna kay yeh ibarat gustakhana heh:

https://www.scribd.com/document/369688174/Thanvi-s-Mureed-Saying-Prophetic-Knowledge-Being-Compared-is-Disrespectful

Hussain Ahmad Madani - the Bakkar-Baaz - likhta heh kay aisa tashbeeh wasteh heh agar mana itna wasteh hota toh ihtimal thah kay janwaroon ... kay ilm kay barabar ilm e RasoolAllah ko kar deeya:

https://www.scribd.com/document/369687203/Shahab-Saqib-Aisa-Not-in-Itna-is-Qadr-but-for-Tashbeeh

Manzoor Nomani likhta apnay ustad Hussain Ahmad Madani kay muqabileh mein likhta heh kay aisa mana itna, is-qadr, aur yeh mein heh Tashbeeh wasteh nahin heh:

https://www.scribd.com/document/369685892/Hifz-Ul-Iman-s-Aisa-is-in-Meaning-of-Yeh-Even-a-Foolish-Person-Would-Know

https://www.scribd.com/document/369685817/Aisa-Without-Jaisa-is-Not-for-Tashbeeh-in-Statement-of-Hifz-Ul-iman

Hasal yeh huwa kay Thanvi nay gaali deeh, mureed nay gaali samaj kar advice deeya kay change kar loh, ghaali ko islam bananay waly dajjaloon nay, yehni Madani aur Nomani. Nomani nay aisa ko itna kay manay mein bataya aur kaha agar tashbeeh mein hota toh Kufr thah. Madani nay kaha kay aisa mana tashbeeh wasteh heh agar itna mein hota toh barabari hoti [aur phir kufr lazam hota]. Yehni Nomani nay Madani ko joota sabat kar deeya aur Madanil nay Nomanil ko joota sabat kar deeya ... aur donoon kazzaboon nay mil kar yeh sabat kar deeya kay aisa tashbeeh, itna, is-qadr, yeh, jis mana mein ho sab mein gustakhi heh aur RasoolAllah ko gaali heh.

Aap nay likha thah kay scan laga doon aur fatwah doon toh qubul hoga: "Agar tum scan laga dou to jo tum fatwa lagao mujy b wohe gabool hoga. Agar scan na laga saky tu, al elania tobba nama shaya kar k barelviyat py lanat bej k sahe islam Qabool kar leyna. Jo Galiyan tum scan lagany lago, unsy Barlvi Ulma ka mutafik hona zarur hy hona zaruri hy,  aur agar wo deoband barelvi ikhtalaf main shamal nahe huwa tu." Mein nay scan bi laga deeya aur Fatwah Kufr bi jari kar deeya. Abh batahen qubul heh ya nahin? Aur Ahle Sunnat mutafiq bi hen kay yeh ghali heh jis say RasoolAllah ki towheen kee ja rahi heh. Mein nay aap ki teenoon condition puri kar deenh. Abh maan loh warna iqrar kar loh kay kay aap us halal kay mada say aap nahin banay jis say ba-haya aur wada par poora utarnay wala utarta heh.

Mein aik dafa phir Ashraf Ali Thanvi ka RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ko gali denay ka scan bi laga deta hoon. NOTE KARO YEH SIRF 2/3 PAGES KA PDF FILE LINK HEH PURI KITAB NAHIN. : https://www.scribd.com/document/362180623/Book-Hifz-Ul-Iman-Author-Ashraf-Ali-Thanvi-Pblshr-Dar-Ul-Kutb-Deoband-UP-Print-New-Page15

Agar ratti bar bi apnay moon say niklay ilfaaz ki pasdari ho toh qubul karo gay. Rahi wazahatenh karnay ki baat toh janab aap nay yeh kab mutalba keeya thah kay mein wazahat karoon kay kaisay gaali aur gustakhi heh ... aap nay toh sirf scan MANGA THAH. AUR FAISLA MUJ PAR CHORA THAH KAY JOH TUM FATWAH LAGAHO WOH AAP KO QUBUL HOGA. Mein nay scan page kay saath Fatwah jari kar deeya. Mufti e Shara o Qadhi par lazam nahin kay woh zahir karay kay kis bina par faisla keeya aur nah yeh aap ki request thee.
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Abh tum sirf bago gay jawab nah doh gay aur nah qubul karo gay.

Edited 19 فروری 2020 by MuhammedAli

[hanfigroup]

Admin sb

Es jahal ganwar aqal sy khali ko koe samjay k jo post mainy ki hy uska jawab dy.

Ye  pagal phir 200 line by tuki lekh raha hy.  As besharam ko kaho Mari post pary aur uska jawab dy

[MuhammedAli]

HanafiGroup Saab ... kia ho gaya heh ... damaghi tawazoh bilqul hi toh nahin kho bethay ... aap ki demand kay mutabiq aap ko jawab mila heh ... magr aap hen toh mantay bi nahin. Anday kabootar kee tara ankh band kar lenay say yeh sach chup nahin sakta keh aap ko jawab mila heh acha khasa mila heh ... Mein aik dafa phir us ko paste kar deta hoon takay logoon ko pata lagay kay janab Ahle Deoband kay uqabir Maulviyon ki tara JHOOT mein toh mahir hen.
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Nechay joh link hen yeh scanned pages pdf mein hen ... kitab ka front cover or ur matlooba safa woh pdf file bana kar upload keeya huwa heh ... yeh puri kitab ka links nahin hen.

Ashraf Ali Thanvi ka RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ko gali dena:

https://www.scribd.com/document/362180623/Book-Hifz-Ul-Iman-Author-Ashraf-Ali-Thanvi-Pblshr-Dar-Ul-Kutb-Deoband-UP-Print-New-Page15

Aur Thanvi kay mureed ka iqrar karna kay yeh ibarat gustakhana heh:

https://www.scribd.com/document/369688174/Thanvi-s-Mureed-Saying-Prophetic-Knowledge-Being-Compared-is-Disrespectful

Hussain Ahmad Madani - the Bakkar-Baaz - likhta heh kay aisa tashbeeh wasteh heh agar mana itna wasteh hota toh ihtimal thah kay janwaroon ... kay ilm kay barabar ilm e RasoolAllah ko kar deeya:

https://www.scribd.com/document/369687203/Shahab-Saqib-Aisa-Not-in-Itna-is-Qadr-but-for-Tashbeeh

Manzoor Nomani likhta apnay ustad Hussain Ahmad Madani kay muqabileh mein likhta heh kay aisa mana itna, is-qadr, aur yeh mein heh Tashbeeh wasteh nahin heh:

https://www.scribd.com/document/369685892/Hifz-Ul-Iman-s-Aisa-is-in-Meaning-of-Yeh-Even-a-Foolish-Person-Would-Know

https://www.scribd.com/document/369685817/Aisa-Without-Jaisa-is-Not-for-Tashbeeh-in-Statement-of-Hifz-Ul-iman

Hasal yeh huwa kay Thanvi nay gaali deeh, mureed nay gaali samaj kar advice deeya kay change kar loh.  Nomani nay aisa ko itna kay manay mein bataya aur kaha agar tashbeeh mein hota toh Kufr thah. Madani nay kaha kay aisa mana tashbeeh wasteh heh agar itna mein hota toh barabari hoti [aur phir kufr lazam hota]. Donoon kazzaboon nay mil kar yeh sabat kar deeya kay aisa tashbeeh, itna, is-qadr, yeh, jis mana mein ho sab mein gustakhi heh aur RasoolAllah ko gaali heh.

Aap nay likha thah kay scan laga doon aur fatwah doon toh qubul hoga: "Agar tum scan laga dou to jo tum fatwa lagao mujy b wohe gabool hoga. Agar scan na laga saky tu, al elania tobba nama shaya kar k barelviyat py lanat bej k sahe islam Qabool kar leyna. Jo Galiyan tum scan lagany lago, unsy Barlvi Ulma ka mutafik hona zarur hy hona zaruri hy,  aur agar wo deoband barelvi ikhtalaf main shamal nahe huwa tu." Mein nay scan bi laga deeya aur Fatwah Kufr bi jari kar deeya. Abh batahen qubul heh ya nahin? Aur Ahle Sunnat mutafiq bi hen kay yeh ghali heh jis say RasoolAllah ki towheen kee ja rahi heh. Mein nay aap ki teenoon condition puri kar deenh. Abh maan loh warna iqrar kar loh kay kay aap us halal kay mada say aap nahin banay jis say ba-haya aur wada par poora utarnay wala utarta heh.

Ismail Dehalvi ki taraf aatay hen. Us kay kia likha aur keun likha. Woh likhta heh kay har makhlooq bari ho ya choti Allah kay muqabileh mein chammar say zaleel heh ... aur kitab kay aik aur hissay mein wazahat kar deta heh kay baray aur chotay say muraad Nabi aur Wali hen ... yehni bara Nabi aur chota Wali ... hasil kalam ... kay Nabi aur Wali Ismail Dehalvi kay mutabiq chammar say zaleel hen ... yehni Allah kay muqabileh mein yeh hastiyan itni giri hen kay chammar bi in say behtr ho gaya ... tum is phakkar baaz ko bi apna imam mantay ho aur us ki ghaliyoon ko ayn islam mantay ho aur khud be aisi zubaan istimal karnay mein kohi haya nahin karo gay ... phir tum bi in jaisay hi phakkar baaz aur gustakh ho ...

 https://www.scribd.com/document/326113318/Taqwiyatul-Iman-Maktaba-Salfiyah-Every-Creation-Great-or-Lowly-docx

https://www.scribd.com/document/326113337/Taqwiyatul-Eman-Every-person-may-he-be-great-or-minor-Prophet-or-Saint-Page-75-docx

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Aap la-jawab hen aur la-jawab rahen gay aur ganday khameer aur ganday zameer ka muzahira keren gay. Bey-sharmi ki bi hadd keren gay aur phir aa kar kahen gay kay jawab nahin deeya. Aap midan say baag chukay hen abh sirf apni besati ki khatir aik doh line likh detay hen. Aap ka wohi hisaab heh ... abh ki bar mar kay dekh ...

[MuhammedAli]

Ismail Dehalvi nay kitaab mein likha kay RasoolAllah nay farmaya kay mein aik din mar kar matti mein milnay wala hoon ... lakh lanat kazzad dajjal par jis nay yeh jhoot Nabi sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam oopar banda aur woh bi towheen karnay kay wasteh ... agar RasoolAllah say mansoob nah karta toh phir sabat aur wazia ho jata kay Ismail Dehalvi khud ghaali deh raha heh ... magr apni gaali ko chupanay ki niyat say apnay kufr/gaali ko RasoolAllah kay moonh dala ... aik toh yeh kay us nay RasoolAllah dakay chupay andaaz mein gaali deeh. Is say bura yeh kay is nay apni man pasand joh gali dena chahta thah us ko RasoolAllah say mansoob keeya kay yeh ilfaaz RasoolAllah nay istimal keeyeh. RasoolAllah ka farmaan heh kay jis nay muj say kohi baat mansoob kee joh RasoolAllah ki nahin woh jahannum mein jaga bana leh. Jahhunami toh Ismail Dehalvi heh is mein toh aaap ko bi shak nah hoga. Yeh lenh asal ibarat jis mein Ismail Dehalvi nay apni gali ko RasoolAllah kay moonh say kahelwaya:

https://www.scribd.com/document/326113322/Taqwiyatul-Iman-Mar-Kar-Mitti-Mein-Milnay-Wala-Hoon-docx

Magr jab haq aur sach wazia huwa toh phir tum Deobandiyoon nay kitaab mein tarmeem karna shoroon kar deeh. Magr phir bi toba nah keeh aur aik jahannumi ki baat ka radd nah keeya sirf apni izzat bachanay ki khatir kitaab mein qaat chaat kar rahay hen:

https://www.scribd.com/document/326113312/Taqwiyatul-Iman-Altered-Statement-Fawt-Ho-Kar-Agosh-E-Lehad

Qurban jahen aap ko dajjali'at par gaali deh kar toba nah karna par jahay ... chalo is ibarat ko tabdeel kar doh ... aap ka toh qawl o fehl is par heh; kufr say toba karoon, toba toba meri toba say toba ... yeh heh aap kay ganday khameer aur ganday zameer aur phakkar bazoon ka haal.

Aap toh kahen gay nahn nahin gaali nahin heh ... magr janab aap ki kitaab Arwah e Salasa mein Thanvi sahib nay yeh rawayat naql kee heh kay Ismail Dehalvi saab nay kaha kay Taqwiyat ul-Iman mein chand jagoon par tashaddud keeya heh ... shirk khaffi ko shirk jalli likha heh ... yehni joh kufr nahin thah Kufr akbar bana deeya heh ... aur baaz jagoon par ilfaaz ki tezi heh ... abh aqal mand banda samaj jahay ga kay tezi say matlab yeh nahin kay ilfaaz ko tezi say likha  .... BAL-KAY BEY-ADABI, GAALI, TOWHEEN, GUSTAKHI KAY ILFAAZ KI TARAF ISHARA HEH ... yeh lenh aap kay Deobandi mazhab ka kaba o qibla khud likhta heh:

https://www.scribd.com/document/326114012/Arwah-e-Salasa-Ismail-Dehalvi-Telling-the-Reality-of-Taqwiyatul-Iman

Janab jab aap kay apnay hi rawayat kartay hen kay Ismail Dehalvi ko pata thah kay us nay towheen karnay ki khatir Nabiyoon Waliyoon ko gali deeh heh toh phir auroon ko keun gussa hen.

Aap hammen toh harami qubul karanay mein kafi sar garm hen ... kabi aik dafa in gustakhiyoon aur galiyoon ko parh kar yeh bi kaha hota kay agar sabat ho jahay toh mein kahoon ga Thanvi Harami thah Ismail Dehalvi harami thah ... toh shahid ham kehtay kay aap mein Allah kay nabi ki muhabbat zinda heh ... magr aap toh ... AAP TOH APNOON KI MUHABBAT - YEHNI ISMAIL DEHALVI, ASHRAF ALI THANVI, KHALIL SAHARANPURI - KI MUHABBAT MEIN JIN KO AAP DIL AUR JAAN SAY APNA MANTAY HEN ... AGAR IN KO AIK LAFZ BI SAKHT KAHA JAHAY TOH AAP KAY DIL KO CHALNI KARNAY KAY BARABAR HEH AUR JAWABI KARWAHI MEIN TOH HUSSAIN AHMAD MADANI KI TARA AUR MAULVI GHULAMULLAH KI TARA AUR KHALIL AHMAD SAHARANPURI KI TARA ... daki chupi zubaan mein gali denay lagtay hen ... Aap kay apnay woh hen jinoon nay RasoolAllah ko gaali deeh aur aap ka dil un wasteh dukhta heh ... hamaray apnay Allah kay Nabi aur woh jinoon nay Allah kay Nabi ki izzaat azmat shaan shokat ka difa keeya ... apna apna naseeb aur apna apna khameer aur zameer. Jis ka ganda khameer aur ganda zameer woh apnay jaisoon ko hi choose karay ga ... ham toh RasoolAllah ki azmat aur izzat wasteh idhar hen.
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HanafiGroup, Saab kia baat heh ... kia huwa jawab nahin deh rahay. Abh bey-sharmi ki khamoshi ko keun ikhtiyar kar leeya. Agar ata kuch nahin toh kam say kam apnay ganday khameer aur zameer wala subut deh denh ... zubaan par control acha nahin hota ... khoob gaali denh ... takay logoon kay pata lagay kay DAR UL-ULOOM DEOBAND KA FAIZ BEY-HAYAHI, PHAKKAR-BAZI HEH ... Agar mujjay Allah nay moqa deeya toh aik kitaab likhoon ga ... GANDA KHAMEER MURDA ZAMEER ... is mein aap kay Maulviyoon ko jinsi depravity ... aik Deobandi maulvi ka dosray Deobandi maulvi par char jana aur ashiqoon ki tara maza lena ... sab kuch bayan karoon ga. Magr aabhi aap aa kar idhar apni Deobandi taleem aur tarbiyat aur fitrat e ghaleeza o khabeesa ka muzahira keren takay neutral logh kush-fehmi mein nah rahen Deobandiyoon kay baray mein.

Wesay abh aap baag rahay hen. Ham nhin chahtay aap bagen ... ham chahtay hen kay aap haya keren aur zubaan ko control keren aur achay tareekay say sawal keren jawab pahen aur jawab denh aur phir jawab lenh. Abh toh aap par itnay udhar char chuka heh ... tori haya kar lenh aur kissi aik ihtiraz ka jawab bi toh denh. Wesay agar aap mein HAYA huwi toh apnay mutalbaat ko poora honay kay baad meri baat ko qubul karna chahyeh thah aur heh:  "Agar tum scan laga dou to jo tum fatwa lagao mujy b wohe gabool hoga. Agar scan na laga saky tu, al elania tobba nama shaya kar k barelviyat py lanat bej k sahe islam Qabool kar leyna. Jo Galiyan tum scan lagany lago, unsy Barlvi Ulma ka mutafik hona zarur hy hona zaruri hy,  aur agar wo deoband barelvi ikhtalaf main shamal nahe huwa tu."  Ham nay toh abh Thanvi aur Ismail Dehalvi ki gaali ko bi pesh kar deeya heh aur fatwah toh kab ka jari kar deeya heh. Abh maanh lenh aur haya keren ... apnay moonh say niklay ilfaaz ki pasdari keren. Jab aap nay mujjay Qadhi aur munsif mana thah toh aabh maan lenh jaisay kaha thah kay ... joh tum fatwa lagao gay aap ko qubul hoga ... mein nay toh hukm kufr aur ibaraat pesh kar deenh ... keun nahin mantay ... haq aur sach baat heh ... aap mein woh mada nahin jis ki bunyad par aap apnay ilfaaz par puray utartay ... khameer ganda aur zameer ganda ...  

[MuhammedAli]

@Admin hazraat say guzarish heh kay HanafiGroup ko paband keren kay woh apnay ilfaaz par poora utray ... aur faisla denh kay aya mein is KI PEHLI POST kay mutalbat par poora utra hoon ya nahin ... AGAR NAHIN TOH MUJJAY TAQEED KEREN KAY JAWAB DOON ... AUR AGAR MUTALBAAT POORAY HO CHUKAY HEN TOH PHIR HANAFIGROUP ... ko paband keren aur demand keren kay woh joh mein nay faisla deeya heh qubul karay.

Admin hazrat mujjay is ka email address denh takay agar yeh baag jahay toh mein is ka taqub ba-zaria email karoon ... mujjay khauf heh kay yeh haq aur sach ko bardasht nahin kar saken gay aur baag jahen gay ... ya phir yeh rawayati Deobandiyoon ki tara gaali baken gay jistera in kay uqabar maulvi bakka krtay thay ... is niyat say kay aap is ko banned kar denh gay ... aur phir is ki jaan choot jahay gi. Meri DEMAND heh kay is ko banned nah karna ... muj say ghalti ho gaee heh kay mein nay is ki patli si kamr par itna wazan laad deeya heh ... yeh patli kamar toot jahay gi aur yeh farar ho jahen gay ...  is leyeh MUJJAY IS KA EMAIL IS SAY LEH KAR DENH.

[hanfigroup]

Mughal.

Ye pagal ko lahore ly kar jao.   Besharam links laga raha hy.    50000 lines.

Mairi baat ka jawab kahan hy.   Aisy pagal tu pagaloon ko pagal kardyn.

 

Begharat email mang raha hy k main bag jaon.   Gatheya insan.  Jo mainy post ki uska jawab red underline kar k bata kahan lekha hy.  Main tari fazooliyat parny nahe bethy.

[MuhammedAli]

Phir Hussain Ahmad Tandvi ki tara ghaali denay shoroon ho gaya heh. Dar asal is kay gar ki tehzeeb aisi heh aap bura nah manayeh ga. Abh is ko soowi aaik hi baat par atak gahi heh ... jawab nahin deeya ... jawab nahin deeya ... kab jawab doh gay ... jawab nahin deeya ... jawab bi deeya jin readers nay parna heh woh parh lenh gay.

Under line red me ho ... agla kia mutalba hoga ... meray sar par aynak bi laga doh ... kamray ki light bi on kar doh ... parh nahin sakta parh kar suna doh ... samaj nahin sakta mujjay samja doh ... maan nahin sakta mujjay haq manwa doh ... aray bhai yeh keun nahin kehtay keh meh nay manna hi nahin kay kavwa kala heh ... joh bi ho jahay ... manna hi nahin ... kohi nah kohi bahana bana lena heh ...

Wesay aap wasteh nahin yeh toh readers wasteh likha heh woh khud parh lenh gay. Aap ko toh mein pehlay likh chuka hoon kay farishta aa kar bi batahay kay yeh sach heh ... aap phir bi nahin maneh gay ... aap nay kufr par marna heh ... kufr wali maut ganday khameer aur gatia zameer say sabat heh ... is leyeh yeh aap wasteh nahin balkay un logoon wasteh mehnat heh jinoon nay haq dekh kar aur parh kar qubul karna heh.
 

[hanfigroup]

Barelvion main pagaloon ka keya elaj hy.

Besharam insan Mairi post ka jawab kahan hy   main apni post main 4 point lekhy thy   one by one  har point ka jawab post karo.

Jahloon ki tarah 5000000 lines n.a. lekho.

Main apni post phir share kar raha hoon jo taari post k jawab main thi.

Agar halali hy tu jawab dy W

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9 hours ago, hanfigroup said:

Barelvion main pagaloon ka keya elaj hy.

Besharam insan Mairi post ka jawab kahan hy   main apni post main 4 point lekhy thy   one by one  har point ka jawab post karo.

Jahloon ki tarah 5000000 lines n.a. lekho.

Main apni post phir share kar raha hoon jo taari post k jawab main thi.

Agar halali hy tu jawab dy W

 

 

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Besharam insan.
Mairi post kar jawab dyty tum ko mout par gae hy.
Apni bakwasiyat band kar   mainy post keya uska jawab dy.   Warna jaan tu pakka harami hy

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Besharam insan.
Tun Mairi post ka jawab dy.  Aur agar mainy koe gali di gy tu usy py shari hukam laga.
Agar tum halal ki paida war hy tu Mari gali py shari hukam laga.
Aur agar harami nahe tu Mairi post ka jawab dy

 

Apnay abba jaan ki zubaan ko taqiya kalam nah bana loh. Agar woh tum ko bar bar harami honay ka tana deta heh is ka matlab nahin kay sab tumaray jaisay hen. Ussay kuch shaq hi hoga toh woh tummein aisa kehta heh biwi joh us ki heh pata bi ussee ko hoga kay kia kar sakti heh. Is leyeh apnay abba kay kalam ko aur apni asliyat ko aur apni ammi kay kirdar ki haqiqat ko chupa kar hee rakho. Idhar dandora peetnay ki zeroorat nahin.

Raha jawab toh woh mein is post mein deh chuka:
 

Aur mazeed is post mein wazahat kar deeh kay tum Deobandiyoon nay kon kon say gaali RasoolAllah ko deeh aur tum un gaali ko ayn islam batatay aur mantay ho:

Abh tumaray pass jawab nahin heh sirf yahi kaho gay .... JAWAB DOH ... JAWAB NAHIN DEEYA ... JAWAB KEUN NAHIN DETAY ... IDHAR JAWAB DOH ... readers dekh lenh gay kis ko jawab nahin mila ... haq aya heh aur haq nay Deobandiyat ko chit kar kay lata deeya ... abh Deobandiaat zaleel aur ruswah ho kar roh rahi heh ... aur rona dona karo ... urf aam mein randi rona aur karo ... Allah nay zaleel aur ruwa keeya heh ... aur abh apni besati ko chipanay ki hatir tum  filmi dialoge mar rahay ho ... Allah nay zillat aur chootoon ka haar tumaray galay mein dala heh ... abh la-jawab ho kar bar bar yahi ... jawab nahin deeya jawab nahin deeya ...


 

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[MuhammedAli]

Stage One: Deobandi Nay Apnay Aap ko Zaneem Yehni Haram-Zada Honay Ka Subut Deeya:

Pehlay Hadith pesh e khidmat heh:

"It was narrated that Ibn Awfa said: "The Messenger of Allah said: 'The Khawarij are the dogs of Hell.'" [Ref: Ibn Majah, B1, H173, here.]

"Abu Ghalib narrated that Abu Umamah said: '(The Khawarij) are the worst of the slain who are killed under heaven, and the best of the slain are those who were killed by them. Those (Khawarij) are the dogs of Hell. Those people were Muslims but they became disbelievers.' I said: 'Abu Umamah, is that your opinion?'He said: 'Rather I heard it from the Messenger of Allah.'" [Ref: Ibn Majah, Book 1, Hadith 176, here.]

"Narrated Abu Ghalib: "Abu Umamah saw heads (of the Khawarij) hanging on the streets of Damascus. He said: 'The dogs of the Fire and the worst dead people under the canopy of the heavens. The best dead men are those whom these have killed.' He then recited: On the Day when some faces will become white and some faces will become black... (3:106) until the end of the Ayah. I said to Abu Umamah: 'Did you hear it from the Messenger of Allah?' He said: 'If I had not heard it but one time, or two times, or three times, or four times - until he reached seven - I would not have narrated it to you.'"" [Ref: Tirmadhi, B44, H3000, here.]

Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat, Imam ul-Muslimeen Wal-Momineen, Kutb ul-Kamileen, Mujadid o Mujtahid ki zuban Nabi (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ki zubaan ki tarjumani kar rahi heh aur Allah kay Nabi (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) kay farmaan kay naqil aur mubaligh hen. Aur joh ilfaaz kalab fin-naar yehni ... jahannum kay kuttay ... ko ghaali kahay woh haqiqat mein jahannum ka kutta heh ... aur us ki asal mein mujjay shak heh keun kay us nay Allah kay Nabi (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ko ghaali denay wala samja ... aur yeh Allah kay Nabi (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ki towheen heh ... aur un ko gaali denay wala tehranay kay mutaradif heh ... aur aisay gustakh kay baray mein Allah ta'ala nay Quran mein farmaya kay woh zaneem (haram-zada heh).

Stage Two: Bey-Asal Ki Asliyat Ka Phol Khol Deeya:

Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat (rahimullah) nay jahannum kay kuttoon ko Sunni auratoon ka Nikkah mein denay ko haram likha aur haq aur sach likha. Jhootay kazzab Deobandi ki bey-asal honay ka subut pesh khidmat heh. Dekhyeh yeh kesay haram-zadoon ki tara jhoot bol raha heh ... note keren mein is ko haram zada keh nahin raha balkay haram-zadoon mein nuqs hotay hen aur un mein jhoot, doka, loot gaseet, bey-rahmi, gali baazi, waghayra kay nuqs fitrati hotay hen ... agr shak ho toh nafsiyati studies joh haram zadoon par keeh gahi hen parh kar dekh lenh ... here ... doka denay aur jhoot ki khaamiyan haramiyon mein bhot ziyada hoti heh ba-qadr e halaliyoon kay ... is waja say janab ki doka-baazi ko haram-zadoon say nisbat deeh.

Tumara dawa kia thah kay Ala Hazrat nay Deobandiyon kay baray mein likha heh kay, i) Deobandiyon ka Nikkah nahin, ii) Deobandi Wahhabi ko beti Nikkah mein dena kuttay kay neechay denay kay barabar heh:



Magr joh ibarat aap nay Ala Hadhrat (rahimullah) ki pesh ki us mein unoon nay GHAYR-MUQALLID Wahhabiyoon kay mutaliq farmaya kay un kay Nikkah mein Sunni aurat ka deeya jana mamnooh aur gunnah heh:



Yeh joh zubaan aap kay abba aap ki ammi wasteh istimal kartay hen ... kay ooo ji HanafiGroup ki maanh, teray abbay nay meray jaisay kuttay kay neechay tujjay deeya heh ... is ka subut kahan heh?

ADMIN hazrat mein ghaali nahin deh raha ... jistera is kay ISMAIL DEHALVI nay RasoolAllah say mansoob keeya ... mein bi mar kar mitti mein milnay wala hoon ... aur yeh is ko gaali nahin samajtay keun kay yeh kehtay hen kay Shaykh Dehalvi nay khud nahin likha balkay RasoolAllah say kehalwaya heh aur aajzi wasteh khelwaya heh ... mein bi issee asool kay mutabiq is kay abbay say kahelwa raha hoon ... keun kay is ka abba bara aajiz thah ... Is kay asool mein yeh gaali nahin heh aur naah towheen heh magr hamaray feham mein heh ... agar yeh aisi zuban meray wasteh istimal karay toh aap ko haq hoga kay is ko ghaali denay kay jurm mein banned kar denh.

Janab dawah tumara heh aur daleel tumaray zummen heh ... mujjay toh keh rahay thay kay poori kitab ka link nahin deeya jata balkay matlooba page ka scan lagaya jata heh ... aur mein nay matlooba page hi pesh keeya thah ... magr khud daway par daleel woh bi jis mein aap kay abba hazoor ki zuban sabat nahin aur keh rahay ho kay kitaab ko parh kar nikaal loon ... apnay kartoot dekho ... asool woh banaho jis par khud puray utro  auroon ko lecture kay istera referrence doh aur khud ...

Janab agar Ala Hadhrat ilfaaz kilaab fin-naar istimal kar kay gaali denay walay huway toh ...phir toh tum  nay RasoolAllah ko bi gaali denay wala sabat keeya ya nahin.  Keun kay yeh ilfaaz toh RasoolAllah kay hen Ala Hazrat toh naqil hen. Aur ilfaaz bolnay wala aur naql ko mannay wala yahan par aik hi hukum kay mustahiq hoon gay ... yehni agar Ala Hadhrat gali detay hen toh phir RasoolAllah nay pehlay gali deeh jis ko Ala Hadhrat nay naqal keeya aur naqal mein gaali deeh. Teray mazhab ka abba ... yehni dhil khawaisirah at-Tamimi  bi itni himmat nah kar sakka us nay bi ilzaam deeya kay insaaf nahin keeya ... khuda ka khauf karo ... magr us khabees nay bi itni himmat nah keeh kay Nabi-ullah ko gaali denay walay ka ilzaam deh. Lakh lanat teri himmat par.
 

[MuhammedAli]

Stage Three: MuhammedAli Kay Khilaaf Zaneem Ki Daal Nah Gali:



Mera sara khandan Sunni thah, Sunni raha, Sunni heh sirf mein hi Wahhabi huwa college kay zamanay mein aur phir Deobandi huwa ... baad mein Allah kay karam aur madad say Sunni huwa, lambi kahani heh aur engrezi mein publish kar deeh thee, here. Meri sari kahani likhi huwi heh aur wazia likha heh kay mein orthodox yehni Sunni garanay mein peda huwa. Pehla paragraph bata raha heh kay mein Sunni aur kis type Sunni garanay mein peda huwa thah:

"One: My Level Of Eduction In Pakistan: I was born into orthodox Muslim family. Both my parents were not practicing Muslims but I did receive some religious education in our village Masjid by Hafiz Barkat. Education consisted of learning how to read the Arabic script of the Quran, which I was not keen on and did the best to avoid it and despite occasional beatings. I did not learn the method of reading Arabic script. Only religious interest I had was monthly Giyarweenh Mehfil hosted in our Masjid. That too was special effort for the Math-thahi distributed after the end of Mehfil. My knowledge of deen consisted of basics of Tawheed, belief in angels, Prophet-hood of Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi was’sallam), judgment day, resurrection, being accountable for deeds, paradise, physical side of prayers, human-ness (i.e. Bashari’at) as well as Noorani’at of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was’sallam), finality, historical event of Prophet Yusuf (alayhis salaam), the saga of Karbala, accounts of wars in connection with Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was’sallam), Apart from knowing these I had no real knowledge of my own belief. The knowledge I did possess of belief was imparted by elders and for which they did not have any evidence. It was mere repetition of what was heard from Scholars of Ahle Sunnat which they repeated and transmitted to me."

Janab ko bara dukh hoga kay aap kay kizb ka banda phoot gaya. Magr Imam Ahmad Raza (rahimullah) ki talimat kay mutabiq gustakh e Rasool zaneem/haram-zada zaroor heh ... aur woh bi un ka kehna nahin balkay yeh Allah ka farmana Quran say sabat heh ... Allah kay Nabi (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) kay mubarak ilfaaaz yehni kilab fin naar (i.e. jahannum kay kuttay) ko gaali kehna wala gustakh e RasoolAllah sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam nah ho toh phir kia aur ho. Aur aisa gustakh haram-zada nah ho toh phir farman e illahi jhoot ho jahay aur yeh muhaal heh.

Stage Four: Masla Fiqha Nikkah Bad-Mazhab o Kafiran:

Mazhab e Islam, Hindu, Sikh, Yahood, Christian, sab kay nikkah, yehni christian ka christian say, Hindu ka Hindu say, Yahoodi ka Yahoodi say, ya phir Christian ka Hindu say, mix Nikkah ko accept karta heh. Aur shari'at mein aisay Nikkah mein darust hen aur aurat mard joh aisay nikkah kartay hen woh nah toh zina kay murtaqib hen aur nah ulaad un ki haram ki tasawar hoti heh. Balkay un kay mazahib kay mutabiq un ki shadi ho Islam us nikkah ko accept karta heh aur ulaad walid ki maani jati heh aur ulaad walid ka warsa hasil karti heh. Agar yeh maloom nahin toh kissi bey-asal Deobandi mufti say hi pooch loh.

Is'see tera, aur is'see asool kay mutabiq, Deobandi ki shaadi Deobandi say, Wahhabi ki Wahhabi say, Shia ki Shia say ... ham Sunni aisi shadiyoon aur nikkahoon ko tasleem aur jaiz samajtay hen. Aur mard aurat ko zina ka tan nahin detay aur nah ulaad kay haram honay ka tana detay hen ... keun kay Deobandi ki shaadi Wahhabi say aur Wahhabi ki shaadi Deobandi say, Shia ki Wahhabi say, aur Deobandi ki Shia say ... waghayra ... hamaray Ulamah kay mutabiq ho jaati hen magr shart kay donoon mein say kohi kufr ki had taq nah poncha ho... aur aisoon ki ulaad ko walid ki ulaad aur warsa hasal karnay ka hukum jari katay hen. Sirf ham Sunni aurat ka nikkah Wahhabi, Deobandi, Shia waghayra say haram jantay hen ... balkay agar Sunni mard ho aur Deobandi, ya Wahhabi, ya Shia auraat ho aur woh auraat Kufr par ho aur wazia ho toh ham us Kufr ki bunyad par aisi aurat say Nikkah bi mamnoon/haram tehratay hen.

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[MuhammedAli]

On 2/18/2020 at 11:11 AM, hanfigroup said:

Muhammad Ali, Tum ny jo bakwas dosary post me key, aur lekha Nazubillah Deoband ny Ambiya ko b na chorA,  Jo galian Nazubillah Deoband ny di hyn, unky scan yahan laga dy,  aur:
1)Agar tum scan laga dou to jo tum fatwa lagao mujy b wohe gabool hoga.
2) Agar scan na laga saky tu, al elania tobba nama shaya kar k barelviyat py lanat bej k sahe islam Qabool kar leyna
3) jo Galiyan tum scan lagany lago, unsy Barlvi Ulma ka mutafik hona zarur hy hona zaruri hy,  aur agar wo deoband barelvi ikhtalaf main shamal nahe huwa tu.
main tum ko najaiz harami lekhoon ga, aur tum ko qabool karna pary ga.
Yaad rahy deoband barelvi ikhtalafat jo ahmad raza ny Hasmul Haraman main lekhi, enky elawa agar koe tum paish karty ho TU deoband ko kafir kahny sy pahly Ahmad Raza khan barelvi py kufar ka fatwa dyna hoga phir doband py bahas karna hogi.
Ab agar tum scan nahe lagaty yan mairy chalange sy bagh jatay ho.   TU SAMAJ LYNA TUM HARAMI HO, JIS KO NAJAIZ OLAD KAHTY HY.
Muhammad Ali tum saeedi smyt jis ki b marzi help lysakty
Thanks

Janab yeh heh scanned page:




RAHA MERA FATWAH toh hazir e khidmat heh:

Joh banda Thanvi ki is ghaali ko ayn Islam janay, ya is ka difa karay, aqil ho balagh ho, aqal salamat ho, itla e Shar'ri aur ihtimam e hujjat ho janay kay baad Thanvi ki ibarat ko ghaali towheen gustakhi aur Kufr aur Islam kay bilqul khilaaf nah janay woh qattan Kafir heh. Aur joh yeh sab jaan kar aur samaj kar aur is par bi ba-khabr ho kay Thanvi ko har kism ki hadayat ki ja chuki thi aur ihtimam e hujjat ho chuki thi magr phir bi toba nah kee aur kufr par data raha ... aur banda phir bi Thanvi ko Musalman janay woh bi Kafir heh. Aur joh aisay kafir kay kufr mein shaq karay woh bi kafir heh.

Thanvi Saab kay bey-lagam ashiq abh is fatway ko maan lenh jaisa likha thah kay maan lenh gay: "1)Agar tum scan laga dou to jo tum fatwa lagao mujy b wohe gabool hoga." Maan kar sabat kar doh kay aap apnay abba jaan aur ammi jaan kay asli hen warna yeh toh ihtiraaf kar loh kay meri asal mein kharabi heh. Ham toh chahtay hen kay aap ki asal mein kharabi sabat nah ho. Magr aap nah manay toh phir apni aami jaan par khud ghalat fehl kay ilzaam kay zum e daar hoon gay. Ammi ko ghalt fehl ka zum e daar tehrana heh ya phir wada mutabiq maan kar apni ammi jaan ko mazlooma masooma sabat kar denh.

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[hanfigroup]

Jahal pagal insan aqal sy bilkul faragh   Ahmad raza ka fatwa tum logo k leye hujat hy. Hamari mazeed tu ahamd raza bidati mushrak hy.

Tun wahabi tha Yani Taira baap.kutta tha aur maan ka pata nahe agar wo b wahabi thi tu ahamd raza ka fatwa khud laga ly.  Agar Sunni thi tu Taira baap.ka naekha he nahe.

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Besharam insan main ny hfizul iman ka jawab deya. Aur 2 dafA post keya.    Ankhyn pahr k par aur uska jawab dy 

eska jawab dy jo main tariy post k jawab main lekhi, fazool main 5 page ki post na karo, to the point jawab do, maira pass itna time nahe k tumhari betuki fazool post ko study karoon

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[hanfigroup]

Admin sb,

mainy , muhammad ali ki itraz ka jawab deya huwa hy, magar ye besharam esko hath tak nahe laga raha,  esko paband karyn k to the point post ka jwab dy. khamkhaw page kaly na, karo, agar ye mainy keya hota tu ap mujy block kar chujy hoty

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[MuhammedAli]

Admin aur Moderators,

Abhi tak toh mein nay Thanvi aur Ismail Dehalvi baqi Deobandi maulvi ki zubaan say ijtinab keeya thah. Magr abh mein nay danda uthana heh aur is nay kurlana (i.e. rona) aur koo-kratta (i.e. cheekh o pukaar) dalna heh. Mein nay is ko tehqeeqi jawab deeya thah jis ko is nay nah para aur nah samja ... abh mein is ko tanqeedi andaaz mein samjahoon ga... kohi das masaloon kay saath ... jis say is ko kafi dard hoga aur Deobandiyat ki rawayati phakkar-baazi par utar ahay ga ... yeh mujjay gaali deh raha heh ... joh aynda tanqeedi jawab mein is ka haal karoon ga ... yeh gussay mein shahid apnay abba ko bi gali denay lagay ... is waja say mujjay kohi ilzaam nahin ana chahyeh keun kay zuban aur asool e taweel ineeh kay mauvliyon kay hoon gay us mein andaaz meray apna hoga ... aap sirf enjoy keren.

[hanfigroup]

Begharat besharam insan 

Ahamd raza k mutbak haram zaday.   Mainy tairi post ka jawab deya huwa hy       ankhyn andhi hyn tairi.  Dil tu pahly he bidat ki waja sy kala hy 

Mairi post ka jawab dy. 

 

Admin.    Kci ny nesha b keya ho tu itna bekhabar nahe hota jitna Ap ho.    Es jahal bidati  ko so warning kun nahe sy raha.   Mainy esky itraz ka jawab post keya huwa hy.    Ye abujahal ki olad uska jawab nahe dy raha hy

 

Aur page kaly kar raha hy  

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