Ahle Sunnat Par Imkan E Kizb Ka Ilzam

[Saife Raza Sunni]

molana gangohi ra. pe ilzam ka muh tod jawab

 

assalamu alaikum dosto

 

ap hazrat ne bhot dekha hoga ke barelwi hazrat ye ilzam lagate he olama e haq pe ke wo khuda ko jhuta mante he nauzubillah

 

mgr iski haqeeqat kya he ye me apko batata hu

 

molwi ahmaq raza ne apni kitab hussamul haramain me molana gangohi ra. ke khilaf fatwa diya jisme ek jhute fatwe ko molana ganagohi r.a. ki taraf mansoob kiya ke mazAllah khuda jhut bol sakta he ye fatwa molana ganagohi r.a. ne diya he

 

iski puri haqeeqat me ek post me bata chuka hu ke kis tarah barelwi bandaro ne kalabaziya dikha kar khud apna muh kala kiya olama e haq ki ye karamat he ke jo b ilzam in pe lagata he wo khud mujrim sabit hota he khair me us post ka b link de deta hu

 

link :-

 

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ab kuch barelwi hazrat apne molwi ahmaq raza ko bachane k liye dusra ilzam late he ab iski b haqeeqat dekh lo

 

jab bechare jahil barelwi olama e deoband ka kuch ni kar sake to kalabaziya hi dikhane lage khair aao inka kamina pan dikhata hu

 

in jahil molwiyo ne bhot koshish ki mgr kuch kar na sake ahmaq raza ke kufr ke fatwe ko sabit na kar sake or aaj tak nhi kar paye bechare to in jahilo ne dusra masla uthaya or ye bhul gaye ke is masle me agr hamne kuch b bola to khud apne fatwe se kafir ho jayenge

 

isliye ab masla khalf e waeed ka utha kar lay

 

aao batata hu in jahilo ne

{ jaal haq safa 398 }

{ hayat e ala hazrat safa 171 }

{ tarikh e wahabiyat safa 132 }

me ye kaha he ke deobandiyo ka khuda ko jhuta hone ka fatwa barahin e qatia me fatawa rashidiya me or yak roza me mojood he

 

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ab me sawal karta hu barelwiyo se ke agr in me khuda ko jhuta hona likha he to aaj tak koi barelwi dikha q nhi saka ahmad raza ko farzi khat banane ki kya zarurat pesh ayi ?????

 

khair barelwi hazrat jitne b hawale dete he olamaa e deoband ki kitabo se waha par har jagah masla khalf e waeed ka he jiske qail khud barelwi he or agr kahi ye likha ho olama e deoband ki kitbo me khuda jhuta he to meri nazar me wo kafir he chahe wo koi b ho

 

molana gangohi r.a. fatawa rashidiya me fatwa de chuka ke jo shakhs khuda ko jhuta mane wo shakhs kafir he murtad he qk Allah se zada sach bat or kis ki hogi

{ fatawa rashidiya safa no. 93 }

 

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or fatawa rashidiya safa 96 me likha he ke molwi nazir khan sahab ne khat likha jisme ye likha ke sahib e barahin e qatia me ye likha he ke Allah taala se kizb mumkin he is masle ki wajah se kutub e ilahiyya me ahtmal jhut ka peda ho sakta he yani mukhalifeen keh sakte he ke shayad ye quran hi jhuta ho

 

to iska jawab haji imdadullah muhajir makki r.a.ne ye diya :-

wazah ho ke imkan e kizb k jo mane apne liye he to bilittifaq mardood he yani Allah taala ki taraf waqu kizb ka qail hona batil he

raha khilaf e olama ka jo darbarh me waqu or adam or waqu khilaf e waeed he jisko sahib e barahin e qatia ne likha he wo dar asal kizb nhi he surat e kizb he iski tahqeeq me tol he al hasil imkan e kizb se murad dukhool e kizb e bari taala he yani Allah ne jo wada kiya he uske khilaf pr Allah qadir he lekin iska waqu na hoga

 

ye pura khat haji imdadullah muhajir makki r.a. ka fatawa rashidiya me mojood he

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jaha jaha b imkan e kizb ka lafz liya he olama e deoband ne us se murad khalf e waeed hi he har jagah iski tashreeh mojood he mgr in jahilo ke samjh me kaha ati he

 

chalo aao me inke hi ghar se inko dalail dikha deta hu

 

sabse pehle ye masla hadees se sabit karta hu :-

barelwiyo ke hakimul ummat barelwiyo ke mufti e azam barelwiyo ke mufassir e kabir janab mufti ahmad yr khan ne tafseer e naeemi me etraz or jawab ke mozu me ek hadees naqal ki he :-

 

hadees shareef me he ke agr rab taala jahan ko ( puri duniya ko) dozakh me dal de to wo zalim nhi balke adil he

 

tafseer e naeemi jild 4 safa 81

 

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me barelwiyo se puchta hu Allah taala ne quran me jagah jagah momino ko jannat ke rahmat ke wade kiye he badi badi basharate d he fir iske khilaf agr Allah kare to kya kizb lazim nhi ayega ????

 

misal :-

ahmaq raza ne angrezo se wada kiya ke me olama e deoband ko khatam karke rahunga ab agr wo na kare jabke wo qadir b ho to kya jhuta hona lazim ni aya ???

 

olama e deoband ka aqeeda he ke khuda jhut se pak he jo khuda ko jhuta kahe ya mane wo kafir he

 

raha imkan e kizb ka masla to ise har jagah khalf e waeed se tabeer kiya gaya or ye b upar bata diya ke Allah apne wade k khilaf par qadir he mgr wo esa karega nhi qk wo wada khilafi nhi karta

 

khair ab ye masla tafseer se b le lo yahi jahil mufti ek ayat ki tafseer karte hue likhte he :-

ho sakta he ke kuffar isaaiyo ( yahudiyo ) k kufr ki bakhshish hi murad ho or maqsad ye ho ke agr tu un kafiro or mushriko ko b bakhsh de to tujhe koi rok nhi sakta isi surat me ye arz o marooz shafat nhi balke rab taala ki badayi bayan karna he jese hazrat abdulillah bin umar ka farman he ke rab Taala sab ko dozakh me bhej de to uska adl he or sare bando ko jannat de de to uska raham he waha b rab taala ki qudrat ka zikr he

 

{ tafseer e naimee jild 7 safa 182}

 

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ye lo barelwiyo ek or dalil wo b tafseer se or wo b apke mufassir ki tafseer he

 

ab bolo kuffaro ki bakhshish ka koi wada he ??

yahudiyo ki bakhshish ka koi wada he ??

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balke in kuffaro ke khilaf sirf azab ki waeede nazil hui he mgr tumhara mufassir is ka qail he ke Allah inko b jannat me bhej sakta he

 

Allah ne quran me khabar d he ke yahudiyo ki kuffaro ki bakhshish nhi hogi mgr tumhara molwi iska qail he ke Allah unki b bakhshish kar sakta he to tumhare usool se lazim ayega ke quran jhuta ho sakta he baqol tumhare mufti ke jab Allah apne wade k khilaf kar sakta he to lazim ayega ke Allaah ka kalam jhuta ho

 

ab lagao na apne mufti pe fatwa ???

 

ab aao age or b he

 

fawaidul fawaad me hazrat meer hasan ali sanjari r.a. likhte he :-

 

rasullalah sallalahu alaihi wasallam ne farmaya ke agr qayamat ke din Allah mujhe or mere bhai isaa a.s. ko dozakh me bhej de to adl ( insaf ) hi karega

 

{ fawaidul fawaad jild 3 }

 

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ab bolo barelwiyo nauzubillah nabi saw khud quran k khilaf farma rahe he ???

 

ye to bilkul muhaal he na mumkin he ke nabi saw ko zarra barabar b azab diya jaye Allah ne inko bheja hi rahmat bana kar he fir nabi saw khud bol rahe he ke Allah qadir he ke mujhe or mere bhai isaa alaihissalam ko allah jahannum me bhej de

 

batao kya yaha kizb lazim nhi ata ??

kya yaha khuda ki wada khilafi lazim nhi ati ??

 

barelwiyo kuch to aqal rakho

 

khair age b aao

 

ab dekho tumhara mufti khud qubool kar raha he ke Allah apna wada tod sakta he

 

tafseer e naeemi me ek ayat ki tafseer me likhte he :-

 

yani ham qadir he ke apna wo wada tod de or tum par azab bhej de

 

{tafseer e naeemi jild 7 safa 458}

 

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age olama e deoband ko apni dalil banate hue likhte he ke Allah taala ki wada khilafi unke yaha b gair mumkin he

 

jab ayat ki tafseer karne ki majboori samne ayi to foran olama e deoband ka aqeeda man liya kya bat he yaha wada khilafi qubool karke khuda ko jhuta nhi mana ???

 

apke yahi jahil mifti apni tafseer me likhte he :-

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agr rab taala kisi ki sari nekiya barbad kar de to zulm nhi or agr kisi ko bila jurm saza de tab b zulm nhi

{ tafseer e maeemi jild 4 safa 300 }

 

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molwi ahmad raza ne b likha he :-

 

ye bat aqalan jaiz he ke Allah taala apni makhlooq ko bagair jurm ke azab de or bad me is par sawab na de

 

{ al mustanadul mu,tamad safa 201 }

 

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isi kitab me dusri jagah likha he :-

 

ese ita,at guzar bande ko azab dena jo Allah ke ilm me wesa hi he maturidiya ke nazdeek aqalan jaiz nhi or ashairah ke nazdeek aqalan jaiz he

 

{ almutamidul mustanad safa 204 }

 

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age ek or jagah likhte he :-

 

kafir ko maf karna hamare nazdeek yani hanafiya ke nazdeek aqalan jaiz nhi is me ashari ka ikhtilaf he or ahle iman ko dozakh me or kafiro ko jannat me hamesha rakhna unke nazdeek yani shariya ke nazdeek aqalan jaiz he

{ al mutamidul mustanad safa no. 211 }

 

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isi kitab ke agle safe pe likha :-

ahle jannat ko dozakh me jane ka hukm de or dozakhiyo ko jannat me dukhool ka hukm de to uska ye hukm mahaz hikmat hoga

 

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ahmad raza ne to apne aqaid or mazhab sab badal liya olama e deoband ko kafir kehne k liye mgr ahmad raza bhul gaya ke uske walid uske khilaf dharna dekar bethe hue he

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aao batata hu

anwar e jamal e mustafa jo ke molana naqi ali khan ne likhi he jo ahmad raza ke walid the wo is kitab ke safa no. 296 pe likhte he :-

hatta ke ahle sunnat ke mazhab me kufr ka bakhsha jana aqalan jaiz he

bap bete ke khilaf he ya beta bap k khilaf he ( sach to ye he ke ahmaq raza or uske molwiyo ne olama e deoband k khilaf qalam utha kar khud usi qalam se apna sar qalam kar liya )

 

age aao alfathur rabbani jo shaikh abdul qadir jilani r.a. ne likhi he uska tarjuma kiya barelwiyo ne jiska nam diya fuyuz e gos e yazdani iske safa no. 552 pe likhte he :-

agr Allah taala ( farzan ) agr Allah taala kisi pegambar ya saliheen me se kisi ko dozakh me dakhil kar de tab b wo adil rahega or ye muhabbat baligah hogi yam par to yahi wajib he ke ham kahe ke mamla or hukm sacha he esa ho sakta he ye mumkin he or agr hoga to haq bajanib hoga or sarapa insaf hoga albatta ye esi bat he ke waqu me na ayegi

 

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ab ahmad raza ke khalifa ko b dekh lo fatawa faizur rasool me likha he:-

noman qadri sahab ne masla pucha ke mugfirat e mushrikeen tahte qudrat e bari taala he ya nhi

 

al jawab

beshak magfirat e mushrikeen tahte qudrat e bari taala he

( yani ye Allah ki qudrat me shamil he ke wo mushriko ki b bakhshish kar de )

 

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ab aao barelwiyo ke allama gulam rasool saeedi sahab ki muslim shareef ki sharah se b saboot le lo

 

janab likhte he ke ;-

ahle sunnat ke nazdeek Allah taala par koi chiz wajib nhi balke tamam jahan uski milkiyat he balke duniya o akhirat uski saltanat he Allah taala jo chahata he wo karta he agr Allah taala tamam nek logo ko or ita,at guzar logo ko jahannum me dakhil kar de to ye uska adl hoga ( insaf ) or jab wo unpar inaam or ikram karke unko jannaat me dakhil karega to ye uska fazl hoga isi tarah agr wo tamam kuffar par inaam farmaye or unko jannat me dakhil kar de to wo iska malik he lekin Allah taala ne khabar d he or uski khabar sadiq hoti he or wo esa nhi karega balke wo momineen ki magfirat farmayega or unko apni rahmat se jannat me dakhil karega or kafiro ko azab dega or apne adl se ( insaf se ) unko jahannum me dalega

( sharah muslim jild 7 safa 653}

 

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ab to sab kuch sabit ho gaya ke Allah taala apne wade k khilaf karne par qadir he or wada khilafi hogi to kizb lazim ayega mgr Allah esa nhi karega qk wo wada khilafi nhi karta na hi wo jhut bolta he olama e deoband har jagaah isko bayan karte he ke Allah qadir he apne wade or waeed k khilaf karne par ajiz nhi he mgr wo karega nhi

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khair itne dalail se barelwiyo ko samjh me aa gaya hoga

 

dosto dalail itne he ke me apne dimagh me unka taswwur b ni kr sakta

 

barelwiyo ki bani e shirk o bidat ne molana ismaeel dehlwi ra. ke khilaf ek kitab likhi jiska nam he subhaan as subbuh is kitab me tanziyah 4 puri is bat ki dalil he ke Allah apne wade k khilaf kar sakta he wo is par qadir he jagah jagah usne khalf e waeed ko sabit kiya mgr use kizb kehne ka inkar kiya or molana gangohi ne ise imkan e kizb kaha is par use etraz he halanke ise imkan e kizb hi kaha jayega ye ahmad raza khud likhta he ise agli post me sabit karunga inshallah

 

or al mutaqadul muntaqad jispe hashiya ahmad raza ne likha or kitab ka nam almutamadul mustanad rakha he isme pura bab he jisme yahi sabit ho raha he ke Allah taala wade k khilaf par b qadir he jiske kuch scan mene upar de diye he ha is kitab me thodi mantiq ke bina per k ghode chalaye he jin ki wajah se wo kufr ki ghati me ja gira isko b age wazah karunga

 

or tamheed e iman me ahmad raza ne kaha ke molwi ismaeel dehlwi r.a. ke khilaf imkan e kizb ke wajah se 78 wajah se kufr sabit karke subhaan as subbhu me bil akhir safa 80 par yahi likha ke hasha lillah 1000 bar hasha lillah me har giz unki takfeer pasand nhi karta or unke muqtadiyo yani mud,iyaan e jadeed ko to abi tak muslim hi janta hu

{ tamheed e iman safa 46 }

 

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barelwiyo me puchta hu ke olama e deoband ne agr tumhari nazar me khuda ko jhuta kaha to in par kufr ka fatwa q nhi diya ????

 

balke unhe muslim kaha ahmad raza ne

 

ab dekho barelwiyo ki kalabaziya

 

molwi ahmaq raza ne tamheed e iman me safa 39 par likha ke olama e ahle sunnat ka ye mazhab he

 

{ khulasa }

jab kisi masle me esi wajeh ho jo kufr ko wajib kare or isme ek wajah esi ho jo mana kare kufr ka fatwa dene ko to mufti par or qazi par wajib he ke wo us ek wajah par amal kare yani use muslim hi kaha jayega

 

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ab me puchta hu barelwiyo se ke imkan e kizb ki wajah se molwi ahmaq raza ne takfeer ko pasand nhi kiya

 

or ab ahle sunnat ke usool se ek wajah b agr baqi ho to b fatwa nhi lagega or is masle me ek b wajah esi nhi he jis par kufr ka fatwa lge fir olama e deoband ko is masle par kafir q kehte ho ?????????

 

upar me sabit kar chuka ke khalf e waeed me barelwi khud iske qail he or ahmad raza ne olama e deoband par koi fatwa nhi lagaya

 

ahmaq raza sahab mar gaye mare marte tamheed e iman me keh gaye ke unhe kafir na kaha jaye khair

 

dosto ye kuch hawale he jo mene diye he ye mukhtasar hawale he qk mere pas kitabe zada nhi he isliye jitni kitabe he unhi se saboot diye he warna saboot beshumar he

 

agli post part 2 ke nam se banunga kuch jahil barelwi kehte he ke khalf e waeed ko imkan e kizb kaha he isliye kafir hue

 

halanke ye galat he qk barelwi molwiyo ne olama e deoband k khilaf qalam utha kar angrezo ki himayat karna tha unki madad karna tha isliye unhone khalf e waeed ka b inkar kiya he ha sach bol raha hu yar ye b sabit karunga

 

ab agli post me ye sabit karunga ke khalf e waeed ko imkan e kizb kaha ja sakta he or hawale barelwiyo k ghar se bhi honge

 

uske bad ek or post hogi part 3 k nam se jisme barelwiyo ne khud khalf e waeed par kufr ke fatwe de kar apne qalam se khud apna sar qalam kiya he

[Usman.Hussaini]

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[Saife Raza Sunni]

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