Molana Abdul Hayyi Lakhnavi Ne Qasim Nanotavi Ko Kafir Kaha Ya Nahi O Uneh Kafir Maante The Ya Nahi?

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>>>EK RAZAKHANI (BARELVI) MOLVI SE YAADGAR MULAQAT<<<

 

Ek razakhani molvi (razakhaniyon ki zuban meallama) ne mujh se puchha ki tum deobandi ho?

 

mai ne bade fakhr se kaha alhamdulallah mai pakka deobandi hun,to us ne kaha ki

tab to tum pakke kafir ho jo tum ko kafir na mane wo bhi kafir

hai, mai ne kaha mere kafir hone ki wajah kiya haizara mujhe bhi bata do taki tauba kar ke dubara kalima padh lun, to wo kahne

laga ki tumhare aqeede kufriya hain, mai ne us se puchha yeh batawo ki aqeede kata'alluq kis cheez se

hota hai?

Us ne kaha dil se, mai ne puchha ki jis cheez ka ta'alluq dil se ho

wo dikhayi deti hai?

Us ne kah nahi, maine puchha ki phir dil ki bat ka pata kaise chalta hai? Dil ki baton ki tarjumani kaun si cheez karti hai?

 

Us ne kaha 2 cheezain 1 zuban 2 qalam,

 

mai ne puchha ki aap ne meri zuban se koi kufriya aqeeda

suna?

Ya mere qalam se likha huwa koi kufriya aqeeda aap ne dekha?

To us ne kaha nahi na to mai ne tumhari zuban se koi kufriya

aqeeda suna aur na hi mai ne tumhare qalam se likha huwa koi kufriya aqeeda dekha.

 

Mai puchha ki phir aap ne mujhe kafir kiyun kaha?

 

To wo kahne laga ki yeh batawo tum nanoti ko kafir mante ho?

 

Mai ne kaha astagfirullah. Mai to un ko allah ka wali (buzurg) manta hun, to us ne kaha bas

bas tum isi liye kafir ho ki nanotvi ko kafir nahi mante ho, nanotvi to kafir hai aur us ko jo kafir na mane wo bhi kafir hai, mai ne us se kaha ki kiya tum apni is bat par atal ho ki nanotvi

ko jo kafir na mane wo bhi kafir hai?

 

Us ne kaha han mai is par atal hun aur yeh to mere aalahazrat

ka fatwa hai husamulharamain me, mai ne kaha tab to aap ke aala hazrat bhi kafir hain,yeh sun kar

wo aag bagola ho gaya aur kahne laga ki tere bade bade

aalim ne aalahazrat ko kafir nahi kaha to tu ne kaise kah diya?

 

Mai ne kaha janab! Aap ke aalahazrat apne hi fatwe se kafir

hain.

 

Us ne puchha wo kaise?

 

Mai ne kaha suno! Maulana abdul hai lakhnavi rahmatullahi alaihi ne hazrat nanotvi rh ko kafir nahi kaha hai, dekhiye! fiqh e hanafi ki mash'hoor kitab SHARHULVIQAYA ke hashiya UMDATURRI'AYA ke muqaddame me maulana lakhnavi rh ne hazrat nanotvi rh ko hindustan ke ahl e ilm me se shumar kiya

hai aur nam ke sath

"rahimahullah" lakha hai, ab aap batawo ki hazrat nanotvi rh ko

kafir na man kar aalahazrt ke fatwe se kafir huye ya nahi?

 

Us ne kaha han zarur huye, mai ne pucha ab agar koi maulana

lakhnavi rh ko kafir na kahe to wo kaisa hai?

 

To us ne kaha ki aalahazrat ke fatwe se wo bhi kafir hai, ab mai ne us ke aalahazrat ki kitab "tamheed e iman" ka page 43 khol kar dikhaya ki yeh dekho!

Aap ke aalahazrat hi ne maulana lakhnavi rh ko kafir nahi kaha

hai,to ab aap ke aalahazrat apne hifatwe se kafir huye ya nahi?

 

Ab to us ke pairon ke neeche se zameen nikal gayi ab wo mujh se tamheed e iman le kar bar bar wo ibarat padh araha hai magar

wo kare to kiya kare wahan to us ke aalahzrat ne waqayi hazrat lakhnavi rh ko kafir nahi kaha tha wahan to aalahazrat ne yeh bhi saf saf likh diya tha ki mujh par

kuchh lagon ne jhoota ilzam lagaya hai ki mai ne molvi abdul hai (lakhnavi) ko kafir kaha hai mai ne un ko har giz kafir nahi kaha hai, ab usne kaha ki han yar waqayi hamare aaalhazrat apne hi fatwe se kafir hain, aur ab to ham bhi aise aalahazrat par laat marte hain jo apne hi fatwe se kafir ho, yeh

kaisa aalahazrat hai is ne to ham sab ka iman tabaho barbad kar diya ham to abhi tak yeh samajhte

the ki is ne ham sab ka iman bachaya hai magar yahan to

muaamala hi ulta hai jab isi ka iman nahi hai to ham sab ka

iman kahan se baqi rah sakta hai ham sab ke iman ki buniyad to isi ke iman par hai aur jab isi aalahazrat ka iman nahi to hamara iman kahan rah sakta hai. ab wo mera shukriya ada karte

huye rukhsat ho gaya. Is post ka kisi razakhani ke pas jawab nahi hai phir bhi haq ko nahi man rahe hain zid aur

hatdharmi ki had ho gayi kuffar e makka ki tarah razakhani bhi haq wazeh ho jane ke bad nahi mante hain agar koi razakhani

apne ja'iz bap ke ja'iz nutfa se paida huwa ho to wo is post ka

jawab de warna koi razakhani gali de kar

apne aap ko harami hone ka saboot na de

 

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Mawlana Abdul hai lucknowi in his book” Abtal-E-Aghlat-Qasmiya” declared kufr on Mawlana Qasim Nanotvee ( Mutaliye Barelwiyat, Vol 3 , p 300 , by Khalid deobandi)

 

http://www.islamimeh...hayyi-lucknawi/

 

Is k elawa yeh topic bhi dekheay :

 

Tahzeer-Un-Nas Kay Radd Par Chand Kutub-O-Mqalajaat-O-Tahareer

 

 

http://www.islamimehfil.com/topic/11184-tahzeer-un-nas-kay-radd-par-chand-kutub-o-mqalajaat-o-tahareer/

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