Kia Musalmano Ne Madina Musrikon Se Cheena Tha?

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assalam o aalikom tamam islami bahion se iltaja ha ke hum do sunnion yani anwar200 aur alteejani bahi ka zaid hamid nami banday ke kuch biyanat per ikhtalaf i raye ha aur ap saab islami bahi humari rehnami kar sktay hen.mera kehna yeh ha ke zaid hamid ne jo biyan diya ha ke

musalmano ne madina bi mushrikon se cheena tha yeh biyan dar asal jhot ha balke ahle madina to musalmano ki hijraat per khush howa tha

Nabi kareem wo degar sahaba on ke shahar tashreef la rehay hen. is liye madina cheena nahi giya tha.

jab ke alteejani bahi ne zaid hamid ke biyan ki tawil ki ha wo yon ha(MERE BHOLE BADSHAO,MADINA CHEEN KE LENA MAQSAD JANG NAHI,APKO YAAD HE ABDULLAH BIN OBAI MUNAFIQEEN KA SARDAR HAZOOR KI MADINA AMAD SE PEHLAY KAREEQ THA KE WOH BADSHAHAT KA ELLAN KAR LETA LAKIN HAZOOR AUR MUSALMANO KI KASEER TAADAD NE JAB HIJRAT KI TO YE AMAL ROK GAYA GOYA EK SIASI SHEEKASAT HOWI AHLE MUNAFIQEEN KO OR ZAID HAMID KA ISHARA BHI IS TARAF HE,CHHENA SE MATALB JANG NAHI OR SAT ME PAKISTAN KI MISAL DE KAR ZAID SAB NE BAT KO CLEAR KAR LYA,BAT SIRF SAMAJ NE KI HE,MADINA HAZOOR KI HIJRAT SE PEHLAY AKSAR DO FAREEKAEN KE DAR MIAN EK TARA KA MEDAN JANG BANA RAHA ABDULLAH BIN OBAI NE BARI CHALAKI SE ARABO KO IS BAT SE AMDA KYA KE WOH ISE APNA BADSHA MUKARAR KAR DE,BAS KE YE KAM HONE KO THA KE HAZOOR KI AMAD HO GAI OR YE HOT HOTE RAH GAYA OR KAHTE HEN KE IS WAJA SE ABDULLAH BIN OBAI SARI ZINDAGI APNE DIL KO SAF NA KAR SAKA OR NIFAQ KE SAT MAR GAYA,AB AP CHHENA KA MAQSAD JANG MAT SAMAJE,PAKISTAN HAMNE KYA JANG KAR KE HASIL KYA HE ?ZAID HAMID NE PAKISTAN KI BHI TO BAT KI MADINE KE SAT,AP AGR ZAHEN KO ZARA SAF RAKHE APKO ZAID HAMID KI BAT SAMAJ ME AJAE GI,ME AP SE PHIR KAHTA HON KE AP ZAID HAMID SE FACE TO FACE BAT KAR LEN AKHR HARJ KYA HE APKE SARE SHAKOK DOR HO JAE GAE OR ANWAR BHAI AP JO ASAL BAT POCH NA CHATE HEN WOH NAHI POCH RAHE HEN,YA SHAED ME GHALAT ANDAZA LAGA RAHA HONLAKIN AGR APKO TALASH HE APNE MAQSAD KI TO ZAID HAMID SE ZAROR MELYE GA PER APNA HOME WORK ACHI TARA KAR YE GA )

ap saab bahi is ko par kar bata dain ke kia alteejani bahi ki tawil ko qabol kia ja skta ha ya nahi?

omeed ha ke ap saab hum bahion ki rehnomai farmin gay.jazak Allah.

link of the debate http://www.islamimehfil.info//topic/10403-fatwa-on-sheikh-amin-idreesi-from-karachi/page__p__63078entry63078

[Ghulam e Azhari]

Alteejani sahb apki tawil ko mene parha. Ap ne kaha k aik munafiq Madina par qabza karna chahta tha to "Musalmanon Madeena mushrikon se ne cheen lia" kehna durust hai.

 

Bhai, chheena us cheez ko jata hai jis par pehle qabza na ho. Musalman ka to pehle se hi hold tha Madina sharif par, phir akhir ye bat kese samajh men aati hai k Musalmanon ne Madina mushrikon se cheena tha?

 

Aik baat aur, Zaid Hamid ki puri baat ye hai "Musalmano ne Madina bi mushrikon se cheena tha, ham bhi Delhi cheenen ge". Yani jis tarha Madina cheena gaya ussi tarha Delhi cheenen ge. Ab sawal ye uthta hai Madeena par hold hone k bawajood agar us munafiq badshah ko Madina par qabza na karne dena Madeena cheena hai to phir Delhi men to pehle hi India raaj qaaim hai wahan Pakistanion ka koi hold nahi chalta phir is ko kese keh denge k ye cheenna us cheenne k muwafiq hai? Kiunke wo keh to raha hai Madina cheena tha ab Delhi bhi cheenen ge...???

 

Baat yunh samjhiye, k Madina sharif men Musalman Mahajir invite kiye gae, wahan Ansaar ne unki imdad ki. Wahin par Islami State qaaim hui. Us invitation aur help ka qiaas yahan Delhi men kese ho sakta hai jab k yahan to government India ki, Hindu majority, Pakistanion ko wo bardasht nahi karte, Pakistanion par beshumar pabandian...

 

Agar Delhi fatah kia gaya to isko keh sakte hen k Delhi par attack kar k ham ne Delhi cheen lia to ye theek hai. Par jahan aman o sukoon se Musalman rahhe jisko hasil karne men Musalmanon ne jang hi nahi larhi balke khud hi Madina Sharif invite kiye gae, wo akhir kese kaha ja sakta hai k is Shehr e Madeena ko Musalmanon ne mushrikon se cheena?

 

Ye tawil bilkul ghalat hai is par k Musalmanon ne Madina mushrikon se chheena tha...!

[Alteejani]

AZHARI SAB,ASAL BAT YE NAHI JO AP SAMAJ RAHE HEN,MADINA KO CHEENE SE MURAD JANG NAHI PER WOH HALAT JO MUSALMANO KO PESH AE MADINA ME RAH KAR KYA YE HAQEEQAT NAHI KE KOI SAL ASA NAHI JATA JIS ME MUNAFIQEEN OR YAHOOD SAZISHEN KAR TE MADINA HIJRAT KE DOSRE SAL JANG E BADR PESH AYA,OR CONTINUES MOSALMAN APNE DEFAA KI JANGE LARTE RAHE IN SARA HALAT KA AGR TAJZIA KIA JAE TO YEHI LAGTA KE MUSALMANO KO MADINA YUHI ASANI SE NAHI MIL GAYA,HIJRA APNI JAGA OR ANSAR KI MADAD APNI JAGA LAKIN SAZISHON KA JAL YAHOODIO KI BAR BAR AEHAD SHAKNI OR SAT MUSHRIQEEN MAKKA KA PE DAR PE JANG PER NIKAL ANA YE SARI BATEN SIRF TARAF ISHARA KARTI HEN KE MUSALMANO NE APNE SABR ISTAQAMAT OR HUSNE TADABR SE MADINA KO EK ISLAMI STATE BANAYA AB AGR ZAID HAMID YE KAHTA HE KE MADINA BHI MUSHRIKEEN SE CHEENA THA PAKISTAN BHI HAMNE CHEEN KE BANAYA HE WAHAN BHI HIJRAT HOWI THI YAHAN BHI HIJRAT KI GAI TO IS ME ASI KYA BAT HE KE MERE FAZAL DOST ANWAR SAB ETRAZ KAR RAHE HEN,MENE PEHLAY UNKO WAZAH KAR DYA KE CHEENE KA MAQSAD JANG NAHI AGR JANG HI MAQSOOD HOTA TO PHIR PAKISTAN KI MISLA NAHI DI JATI,DOSRI BAT AP INKI VIDEO SONE ANWAR BHAI KI MEGA 20 KYA YE EK SAMAJ DAR INSAN KI AWAZ LAG TI HE BHALA ZAID HAMID KO ZARBADUSTI YE KAHA JA RAHA HE KE TONE SARE KAM IMAM MEHDI WALE KAR DYE AB TO IMAM MEHDI HO NE KA DAWA BHI KAR LE,AJEEB MANTAQ HE,BHAI EK AGR IMAM MEHDI KE KAM ACHE HE OR UMAT KO ISE FAEDA HOTA TO BHAI AP BHI KAREN IS ME GHALAT KYA HE ?RAHI BAT IMAM MEHDI KE DAWAE KI TO PHIR SHAED APKO SHAK HE IS BANDE PER ISLYE AP YE BATEN KAR RAHE HEN OR WOH KHAMOOSH HE,WARNA IS BAT KA ZIKAR HI KIO,KHER HAZRAT HAM YE NAHI KAHTE KE ZAID HAMID KA MADINA KE KUCH ISTARA KAHNA 100 %SAHIH HE LAKIN AGR ASI KOI TAWEEL BHI HE TO IS ME KYA KABAHAT HE,MAQSAD TO MUSALMANO KO SHAOR OJAGR KAR NA HE,

WA AKHRO DAWANA ALHAMDOLLILAHI RAB ALAMEEN.

Edited 16 اگست 2010 by Alteejani

[Anwar200]

(AB AGR ZAID HAMID YE KAHTA HE KE MADINA BHI MUSHRIKEEN SE CHEENA THA PAKISTAN BHI HAMNE CHEEN KE BANAYA HE WAHAN BHI HIJRAT HOWI THI YAHAN BHI HIJRAT KI GAI TO IS ME ASI KYA BAT HE KE MERE FAZAL DOST ANWAR SAB ETRAZ KAR RAHE HEN,MENE PEHLAY UNKO WAZAH KAR DYA KE CHEENE KA MAQSAD JANG NAHI AGR JANG HI MAQSOOD HOTA TO PHIR PAKISTAN KI MISLA NAHI DI JATI,DOSRI BAT AP INKI VIDEO SONE ANWAR BHAI KI MEGA 20 KYA YE EK SAMAJ DAR INSAN KI AWAZ LAG TI HE BHALA ZAID HAMID KO ZARBADUSTI YE KAHA JA RAHA HE KE)

bahi mera itraz he kiyon ke kutab hadee aur tarikh ki roshani meh yeh baat teh shoda ha ke musalmano ne madina cheena nahi tha bal ke madina amad per khushi ki thee ahle madina ne.zaid hamid tarikh islam ko badal raha ha aur ap kehtay hen ke is biyan se kia faraq perta ha?yani yeh bi pehly bar malom howa ke ap ki nazar meh jhot bol kar musalmano ka shaor ojagar karna bi chlay ga.jhot ki bunyad per to bahi yeh sab zaid hamid ke network meh chalta ho ga na ke islam meh.mein filhal kisi dosri behas meh nahi jana chahta ke muhtaram bahi sahib ya to ap ko sabat karna ha ke zaid ne jo baat ki ha wo jhot nahi ha ya phir ap ko qabol karna ho ga ke zaid hamid ne ghalti se yeh jhot bol diya ha aor phir mera mutalba yehi ho ga ke wo apnay ghalat biyan ko wapis lay.jab tak yeh baat teh nahi hoti mein kisi dosray point pr ap se baat nahi kron ga ap bi dekhin ke mein usoli baat kar reha hon ke pehly aik point to clear ho baqi is ke bad.

[Alteejani]

ANWAR BHAI,ME EK DARMIANA RAASTA NIKAL TA HO,AGR AP KO KABOOL HO ME YE KAHTA HON KE ZAID HAMID NE MUBALGHA KYA HE (مبالغة),LAKIN SAT ME,EK LATEST VIDEO AI HE ZAID HAMID KI WOH APKO SONI PARI GI OR ME APKO ALLAH OR OSKE RASOOL KI KASAM DE KAR POCH TAHON KE KYA YEH KISI WAHABI DEOBANDI KI BATEN HEN KYA KOI JAMAATI YA DR,ISRAR AHMED KA CHELA ASI BAT KAR GA AP ALLAH KO HAZR NAZR KAR KE YE BATA NA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 17 اگست 2010 by Alteejani

[Anwar200]

ANWAR BHAI,ME EK DARMIANA RAASTA NIKAL TA HO,AGR AP KO KABOOL HO ME YE KAHTA HON KE ZAID HAMID NE MUBALGHA KYA HE (مبالغة),LAKIN SAT ME,EK LATEST VIDEO AI HE ZAID HAMID KI WOH APKO SONI PARI GI OR ME APKO ALLAH OR OSKE RASOOL KI KASAM DE KAR POCH TAHON KE KYA YEH KISI WAHABI DEOBANDI KI BATEN HEN KYA KOI JAMAATI YA DR,ISRAR AHMED KA CHELA ASI BAT KAR GA AP ALLAH KO HAZR NAZR KAR KE YE BATA NA

 

 

 

 

 

 

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bahi sab se pehly ap ne is baat per shak ka izhar kia ke zaid hamid ne yeh keha ke madina cheena tha is liye ap ne muj se sabot talab kia ke os ne yeh baat ki ha ager ap apni post ko khud bi dekh lain jo ap ne is babat sabot talab kia (1 ZAID HAMID NE KAB KAHA KE MADINA MANWAR HAZOOR NE MUSHARKEEN SE JANG KAR KE HASIL KYA THA ?AGR AP KE PAS SABOT HE TO SAMNE LAYE )

jab mein ne ap ko sabot os ki apni zubani faraham kr dia to phir ap ne apni taraf se tawil karny ki nakam koshish ki ke munafiq madina waghra aur jab baat na bani to phir ap ne zabardasati aik qurani ayat ka hawala diya aur jab mein ne sawal kia ke ap yeh bata dain ke zaid ka biyan qurani ayat si sabat ha?ap yan ya na meh jawab dain to ap ne abhi tak yan ya na ka bi nahi likha is ki sab se aham waja yeh ha ke ap bi jantay hen ke zaid ne jhot bola ha aur 1 jhot chopanay ke liye 100 jhot bolna aqalmandi nahi hoti bahi sahib.phir ap ne likha ke shaor ojagar karny ke liye zaid ne yeh biyan diya ha ab ap ne likha ke zaid hamid ne mubalgh kia ha yani ke exaggretion ki ha.bahi meray ap her roz apni biyan badalte hen is liye ap aik biyan ko pakro i dont know ke kal ap ka is per kia biyan ho ga? ap kiyon ke aik sunni hen is liye mein is rishtay ki qadar karta hon aur koshish krta hon ke ap ki dil shikni na ho ya ap ranjida na hon to bahi araz yeh ha jo log kisi baat per exaggretion wahan ki jati ha jehan kohi baat ho aur os ko bara chara kr paish kia jaye laikin jehan kowo waqia rohpazir hi na howa ho to phir os ko bara chara kr paish karna jhot hota ha ya nahi?go ke exaggretion krna bi aik tarah ka jhot hi hota ha meger chalin is ko lafzi libada pehna kr mubalgha ka naam bi dain to aur baat ha meger zaid ne aik baat apni qoum ke samnay aa kr kehi jis ka sare sy wajod nahi tha ke jo kohi bi yeh kehta ha ke musalmano ne madina bi mushrikon se cheena tha wo aik number ka jhota ha jhoton per Allah ki lanat hoti ha aur kohi banda jo islam ki tarikh ko apnay jhot se badalny ki koshish kare aur phir apny jhot ki qoum se maffi bi talab na kare wo banda hergiz islam ya pakistan ka khair khawa nahi ho skta.is liye bahi sahib ya to ap qabol karinke zaid hamid ne jhot bola ha ya ap os ke is biyan ko sacha sabat karin ke is ke ilwa kohi darmani rasta nahi ha ke baat islam ke aik tarikh saz waqia ki ho rahi ha aur mein ya ap kon hote hen ke darmiyani rasta nikalin?han ager ap aur mera kisi zaati maslay ka ikhtalaf ho to aik darmiyani rasta nikal skta ha laikin zaid hamid ne jo baat ki ha wo islam ki tarikh per ha ke dono meh se aik baat ka imkan ha ke ya to madina meh wel come howa tha aur ya phir madina ko mushrikon se cheena giya tha lihaza in dono meh se aik baat jhot ha aur ager ap haq ke tarafdar hen to phir ap likh dain ke dono meh se kia jhot ha?itni se baat ha mein jab tak is maslay ko teh nahi kar layta ke in do chizon meh se kia jhot ha kisi bi aur sawal per baat nahi kron ga yeh baat mein ne shoro se hi kehi ha ap is baat ka akhtaram karin aur let us agree on 1st point.ap se darhawasat ha ke ap aik khulay dil se likh dain gay ke kon sa biyan jhot ha.phir is ke bad dosri baton ki taraf awon ga.

[Alteejani]

ANWAR BHAI,PEHLI BAT TO YE HE KE APNE GHALAT BAYANI KI,APNE YE KAHA KE ZAID HAMID NE KAHA HE MADINA HAMNE MUSHREKON SE JANG KAR KE CHEENA THA Jhot no 1 ZH ne keha ke madina musalmano ne mushroqon se jang kar ke cheena tha? MUJE YE BATAE KE APKI DI HOWI VIDEO CLIP ME KAHAN ZAID HAMID MENE LAFZ JANG ISTAMAL KYA HE ?

OR MENE BAR BAR IS BAT KI TASHREE KI KE CHEENE SE MURAD MADINA ME RAHTE HOWE HALAT KA MUKABAL KARNA THA,WARNA KYA YE HAQEEQAT NAHI KE MUNAFIQEEN, YAHOOD OR MUSHRIQEEN E MAKKA MUSALMANO KO BHAG NIKALNE KE DAR PE THE ?AGR MERI YE BAT SACH NAHI HE PHIR AP SORAT MUNAFIQON KI US AYAT KI KYA TASHREEH PESH KARE GAE KE JISM SAF KAHA GAYA HE KE JAB HAM MIDANE KO LOTE GAEN TO HAME IZAT DAR JO HE WOH KAM TAR KO NIKAL KARE GA,KYA YE MUNAFIQEEN KA ERADA NAHI THA OS WAQT ?

BAT SIDI SI HE ZAID HAMID KAHNA EK JAEZE KE TORPE US HALAT OR WAQIAT PER MABNI HE JO MADINI ZINDAGI AP KO OR ASHAB KARAM KO PESH AE,ISE HAM EK TAJZIA KAH SAKTE HEN WARNA KON NAHI JANTA KE MUSALMANO NE MADINE KI TARAF HIJRAT KI OR ANSAR NE KHOL LAR US WAQT APNE BHAIO KI MADAD KI,YE TO EK TAREEKHI HAQEEQAT HE 3 CLASS BACHA BHI IS BAT SE WAQIF HE,PER BAT KA MAFHUM LOGO YE BATANA HE KE ETNA ASAN NAHI THA KE BAS MUSALMAN MADINA ME AE OR SAB KUCH TEEKH HO GAYA,AKHR HALAT OR WAQIAT KA TAJZIA BHI KYA JATA HE OR AGR YE BAT EK TAJZE KE TORPE LI JAE TO KYA HARJ HE,PHIR MERA KAHNA KE AP BEECH KA RAASTA NIKAL LE TAKE HUSNE ZAN RAHE APAS ME LAKIN AP IS KE BHI QAILNAHI,TO JAB AP IS BAT KE QAIL NAHI KE BEECH KA RASTE BAN TO HAM APAS ME KIS TARA BAT AGAE LE JAE SAKTE HEN,MERA TO HUSNE ZAN HE ZAID HAMID SE OR AB TAK MERI NAZR ME ASI KIO BAT NAHI HOWI ZAID HAMID KI TARAF SE KE JISE KI SHAREE MOMAANAT HO,AB AP KHOD BAT KA TAJZIA KARE KE ME KYA KAH RAHA HON OR AP KYA SAMAJ RAHE HEN,KHER EK DAFAA PHIR WADAHAT HO JAE KE CHEENA SE MURAD JANG NAHI OR NA FATAH KARNA, BALKE MADINA ME RAHTE HOWE HALAT KA MUQABLA KARNA HE OR YE BAT EK TAJZIA KE TORPE KI JA RAHI HE NA KE TAREEKH KO BADAL NI KIO KOSHISH HE,AGAE AP JU SAMJE

[Anwar200]

madina ke andar rehtay ho halat ka mokaba krny sy ap ki murad yeh hi ha ke is tarah se madina cheena gia tha?to phir zaid hamid ka biyan ke madina cheena giya ko ap ne apni pechli post meh mubalghala karny ka likha ha.is liye to mein bar bar kehta hon ke ap ko khud malom hi nahi ha ke ap kehna kia chahty hen ya to likhin ke jo kuch zaid ka biyan ha wo hi haqeeqat ha aur phir sabat karin ke madina cheena giya tha warna ap phir se aik hi koshish meh nakam ho rehay hen ke aik jhot ke liye 100 ka sahara.

ab ap siraf itna hi likh dain ke zaid ne mubalgha kia ha to phir ap os mubalgha ki tawil kiyon karte hen aur mubalgha krny wala jhota hota ha to ap likh do ke zaid ne jhot bola ha khair ap likhin ya na likhin laikin Allah ke fazal se zaid hamid ko sari duniya ke samnay jhota sabat kr choka hon aur ager ap nahi manty to ziad hamid ki khamoshi hi dalil ha ke wo jhota ha.

ab cheena ka lafzi matlab yehi hota ha ke jo ap ko likh choka hon han ager ap dekhin ke kashmir ko pakistan ne 1949 meh cheena tha ke nahi?kia yeh baat cheet kr ke cheena tha ya jang se?baat cheet se chizon ko hasil to kia ja skta ha laikin cheena nahi jata?????dako bandoq se mal cheenta ha ya nahi?ab dehli ko ager musalman baat cheet se hasil karin to os ko cheena to nahi keh sktay han jang ke bad hi hindo se cheena jaye ga na?

phir wohi baat ke ab ap siraf yeh bata dain ke zaid hamid ne ager mubalgha kia ha to phir ap os ke mubalgha ka defa kiyon karte ho?ya to phir os ko mubalghal krny wala na bolo aur ager nahi to phir haq man lo ke zaid ne islami tarikh per jhot bola ha.ap ki zeed se ap ko ya zaid ko kuch nahi milay ga.baqi ap ki marzi ha ke ap kon sa rasta apnatay ho?mein to sach ka sath don ga bas.

[Alteejani]

MERE BHAI MESAL YEHI HE KE AP HAQ KA SAT NAHI DE RAHE HEN OR,RAHI BAT MUBALGHA KI TO BHAI IS ME EK HUSNE ZAN QAIM RAH TA HE,LAKIN AP KO BAT SAMAJ ME NAHI ATI,ZAID HAMID NE JO KUCH KAHA MADINA KE HAWALE SE USNE SAT ME PAKISTAN KI BHI MISAL DI JIS KO AP GOL KAR GAE KYA PAKISTAN HAMNE JANG KAR KE HASIL KYA THA ?LAKIN AP APNI MARZI SE EK BAT KO EK KHAS DAERE ME LE JANA CHATE HEN PER INSHALLAH AP KAMYAB NAHI HON GAE,DOSRI BAT TAWEEL KE HAWALE SE TO JANAB ME KAH CHUKA HON KE ZAID HAMID KI BAT EK TAJZIATI BAT HE OR OSKO SAMAJ NE KE LYE TAWEEL TO DI JA SAKTI HE KE NAHI,OR AP KYO NAHI BATA TE KE ABDULLAH BIN OBAE HAZOOR KO MADINA SE NIKAL NE KE DAR PE THA,JIS PER YE AYAT UTRI,AGR ISI BAT KA TAJZIA KAR LEN TO KYA YE BAT SAMAJ ME NAHI ATI KE WOH KAMYAB NAHI HOW APNI KOSHISH ME OR IS TARA HAMNE USE MADINA CHEEN LYA,AGR BIL FARZ ALLAH KI YEHI HIKMAT HOTI OR WOH KAMYAB HO JATA TO KYA PHIR MUSALMANO KO MADINE ME RAHNE DYA JA SAKTA THA ?

AKHRI BAT MERE BHAI APNE NA KAM KOSHISH KI AB TAK JITNI BHI VIDEO BANAHI WOH SAB KI SAB GHER MUNATQI OR GHER MUDALAL HE,BALKE AP HI APNE KAM ME BAD NAM HO RAH HEN,MERA MUSHARA HE AP APNA KHUD TAJZIA KAR LEN OR ALLAH KI TARAF RAJU KARE,ZAID HAMID KO AP BADNAM NAHI KAR SAKE NA KAR SAKE GAE,TO BHAI APNA WAQT KYO ZAYA KAR RAHE HO

Edited 18 اگست 2010 by Alteejani

[Anwar200]

muhtaram ap ne zaid hamid ko jo likha ha phir se samnay rekhta hon (ANWAR BHAI,ME EK DARMIANA RAASTA NIKAL TA HO,AGR AP KO KABOOL HO ME YE KAHTA HON KE ZAID HAMID NE MUBALGHA KYA HE (مبالغة),)

ap ne saf tor per zaid hamid ko mubalgha yani baat ko bara chara kr karny wala likha ha ya nahi?yani kisi banday ko ap aik hi waqat meh rasat go bi keh rahay hen aur mubalgha karny wala bi kia is ko husne zan ka naam dia jata ha?ager kohi yeh kehy ke falan banda bohat acha insan ha laikin meh husne zan ki bunyad per os ko mubalgha arai krny wala bi kehta hon to log is baat ko kisi aqal mand adami ki baat to qarar nahi dain gay bahi sahib.

baqi ap jo marzi ha koshish karin zaid ko sacha sabat karny ke liye laikin jo kuch os ne apni zuban se aik bar nikal diya ha ke musalmano ne madina bi mushrikon se cheena tha yeh aik tarikh jhot ha.jo kutab hadees ap aur mein bi mantay hen wo kutab yeh biyan karti hen ke musalmano ko madina meh welcome kia giya tha logon ne khushi ki thee jashan kia tha na laraee howa na hi cheen chopta howa tha.kisi bi sahabi ka bi yeh biyan nahi milta ke hum ne madina ko mushrikon se cheena tha mager 1500 sal bad aik zaid sahib yeh musalmano ko bata rehay hen ke darasal madina ko cheena gia tha lihaza ab hum on ki sunaat per amal karte howay dehli ko cheen lain ,subhan Allah.

kon si aik baat ko qabol kia jaye 1.zaid ke biyan ki aik munafiq ke badshah hony ki tawil ko?

2.zaid ne yeh biyan is liye diya ke shaor ojagr kia jaye?

3.quran ki ayat ki ro se madina ko cheena ke biyan ko?

4.zaid ne mubalgha kia ?

5.aik tarikhi waqia ke halat wo waqiyat ka darmiyani rasat ko?

ap ke yeh muhtalif biyan hen aik he issue per ap khud faisila kro ke mein in sab meh se kis point ko qabol kron?

 

[Anwar200]

ap ne likha ke (AKHRI BAT MERE BHAI APNE NA KAM KOSHISH KI AB TAK JITNI BHI VIDEO BANAHI WOH SAB KI SAB GHER MUNATQI OR GHER MUDALAL HE,BALKE AP HI APNE KAM ME BAD NAM HO RAH HEN,MERA MUSHARA HE AP APNA KHUD TAJZIA KAR LEN OR ALLAH KI TARAF RAJU KARE,ZAID HAMID KO AP BADNAM NAHI KAR SAKE NA KAR SAKE GAE,TO BHAI APNA WAQT KYO ZAYA KAR RAHE HO

bahi baat yeh ha ke ap ki raye ha aur ap ko haq ha ke kisi chiz ko ap pasand ya na pasand karin meger ager ap in video ke message ko dekhin to qoum ko yeh bi bata ja raha ha ke wahabi deobandi jamati salafi jews ke agent hen aur islam ka naam badnam aur pakistan ko tabah karny ke koshish meh hen.in videos meh zaid hamid ke mutaliq abhi tak 10% bola giya ha aur 90% jo baat ki ha wo badaqeeda logon ko expose kia giya ha.ager bad aqeeda ko expose karna waqat ka zaya ha to ap ki samj ha mein aur kia keh skta hon?

aur phir musalman to aik ghairat mand hota ha ager is ko kohi yeh kehay ke aa ager to mard ka bacha ha to apni hi baton ka jawab day aur

is ke bawajod wo jawab na day to phir os meh gharat naami chiz ha hi nahi aur gharat to aik musalman ka zeewar hota ha.zaid hamid ko bar bar challenge kia giya ha aa ager to mard ka bacha ha to jawab day laikin wo jawab nahi day skta khair wo to aik kal ka bacha ha on videos ka jawab to deobandi wahabi jamat tak nahi day skkay bawojod bar bar on ko bi

challenge kia ha ke awo jawab do.on videos ka is qadar asar kam ha ke zaid hamid 3 mah tak media meh na aa paya.mera aik dosat jo ap ki tarah os ka bohat bara supporter tha os ne 3 bar zaid se keha ke wo videos ka jawab day laikin zaid ne siraf yeh keh diya ke yeh videos indian agent ne bani hen bala bala bala.ab ap mein kuch bi haq ka ehsas ha to bahi khuda ka wasta ke ap khulay dil se jawab do ke on videos meh 90 % raad wahabi deobandi ka ha ya nahi?ager ap is ka jawab bi na day pain han ya na meh to phir ap ko kia naam don?ager ap mein kuch insaf baqi ha to ap bata dain ke on videos meh kis ko ziyadatar raad kia giya ha?plz is ka jawab lazmi dain.

 

[Alteejani]

BHAI JAN,AP BE SHAK DEOBAND WAHABIO KA MOU KALA KARE,BALKE UNKO GADE PER BITHA KAR MOU KAL KAR KE SARE SHAHER ME PHERAEN,MERI KHOSHI SE,ME TO SARE FASAD KI JAR ALEM ISLAM INI WAHABIO KO HI SAMAJ TA HON,LAKIN ZAID HAMID WAHABI NAHI HE AGR HOTA TO WOH KABHI BHI HAZOOR KI ISHQ KI BAT NA KARTA NA KABHI AWLIA SALIHEEN KI MISALEN DE DE KAR SAMJATA,AB RAHI BAT APKE ETRAZAAT KI,TO BHAI MERE AP ZAID HAMID KO SAHIH TARA SONE MUJE YAQEEN HE KE APKE SAWALON KA JAWAB USI KI BATAON ME MIL JAE GA,APNE CHAND BATEN MUJ SE KI MENE KOSHISH KI KE APKO SAMJA SAKO AB YE AP PER HE KE AP SAMJ PAE KE LAKIN HAMARI TAR SE TO APKO PORI TA TASLI KARANI KI KOSHISH KI GAI,DOSRI BAT YE HE KE IS WAQT HAMRA DUSHMAN NUMBER ONE AMERICA HE OR OS KE PECHE ISRAEL OR INDIA KHARE HEN,OR INSE KOI HAME MUNAZARA YA TABLE TALK KI NAHI SOCH NI YE HAMRE DUSHMAN AWAL WA AKHR HEN,IS LYE ZAID HAMID KI SARI THEORY IS CONCEPT ME DEVELOP HOWI HE APNE DUSHMAN KO KAM TAR NA SAMJO NA OR NA KHOD KO ASA JANO,HUM IS WAQT EK PROXY WAR ME HE DUSHMAN HAMRI SAFO ME INTESHAR OR AFRA TAFRI POHCHAN CHATA HE OR DIS INFORMATION KE ZARYE HAME MAYOSI KE ANDERE ME LE JA KAR GHARAK KAR DENA CHATA HE OR YEHI WOH FRONT HE KE JIS PER IS WAQT HAM LAR RAH HEN,SAT ME HAM AB IS BAT KE QAIL HO GAE HEN KE IS NIZAM ME HAMARI KOI BAQA NAHI YE DAJJALI NIZAM HE IS KO BADAL NA WAQT KI AHEM TAREEN ZARORAT HE OR YEHI WOH CHEEZ HE KE JIS PER ZAID HAMID KO FULLY SUPPORT HASIL HE YOUTHS SE,AB MERI AP SE INTNI GUZARESH HE KE AP ZAID HAMID KO PERSONALLY MEET KAREN YA PHIR US KE PROGRAMO KO REVISE KAREN INSHALLAH APKE SARE GILAE SHIKWAE DOOR HO JAE GAE

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leader wo hota ha ke jo apni qoum ke samnay sachi baat kare jo log tarikh haqaiq ko bara chara kr paish karin wo qoum ke sath mukhlis nahi hotay wo chahye zaid hamid ho ya imran.ager ap siraf aik hi point per zaid hamid ko sacha nahi sabat kr skay to phir ap sab haqeeqat ko jan kr bi aik jhotay adami ke sath hen to bahi jo log jhot boltay hen wo hergiz islam ya watan ke khairkhwa nahi hoty.bohat koshish ki ke youtube per wo clip jis meh zaid ne madina bi cheena tha ka biyan diya tha wo clip ab muj ko mil hi nahi raha ager waqi wo clip ab ghaib kr diya giya ha to saaf zahir ha ke zaid hamid bi jan choka ha ke os ka jhot pakra giya ha.acha adami apni ghalti ki maffi manta ha theek ha na?ager momkin ho to zaid se is babat zaror sawal karin ke kia waja ha ke wo jawab nahi dayta?ap bar bar aik hibaat kehtay hen ke mein os se ja kr milon ager ajeeb baat ha ke sheikh amin ke log bi yehi kehtay hen ke os se ja kr milon wo her baat ko clear kr day ga.jab ke mera itraz to yeh ha ke youtube ber apnay biyanat to upload krte ho to phir is per hi jawab bi do yeh kia ke mein ne net per sawal kiya aur jawab ke liye os ke office jawon?maidan to net ha na bahi ab ap aur mein bi to net pr hi tabadla khiyal kr rehay hen na.

to baqi ap muj ko nahi jantay ke mera in saab kamo meh kis qadar zaati tujarba ha akhwan ul muslimim,namnehad jihadion afghan arab tajik pushtoon hazara irani pasdaran krud sab ke sath aik arsa guzar choka hon os waqat zaid hamid to mushkil se 4th class meh jata ho ga.hamid gul ko janta hon ke yeh banda mossad ke liye kam karta tha.jis ko zaid hamid bohat bara jihadi kehta ha.mein kohi alim deen nahi hon laikin zaati tajarba ki bunyad per jis jis ko bi raad kia ha aj tak wo jawab nahi day paye kiyon ke kitab perny aur zaati tujaraba meh faraq hota ha.ap ko ya zaid ko malom tak nahi ke afghan jang hi humray kheetay per badtarin halat ki zamedar ha.ap logon ko kia malom ke akhwan ulmuslimin walay kis qadar zalim hen aur bare rasat jews ke liye kaam krte hen.jin ko zaid jihadi kehta ha.ap meray sunni bahi ho yad rekho ke mein jhot naho bol raha ke jin logon ko zaid hamid jihadi kehta ha ke khuda ki qasam ha wo log bohat hi badkar hen Allah ki qasam ha ke yeh log afghan urton se nikah kr k 10 din ke bad ghaib ho jate aur phir dosra aa kr os ke ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

tum log jin ko jihadi kehtay ho wo humjins bazi jassay kamo meh hen.zaid jin ko jihadi kehta ha wo urton ke dalal hen chras aur degar nasha awar chizon ka sare amm istamal karte hen.ghustakh hen wo to saab ko malom ha laikin phir bi zaid on ko jihadi kehy to phir bi wo sunni ha?

zeed zeed aur kuch nahi ha ap ke pass dekho haqeeqat yeh ha ke ya ap sunni ho ya ap sunni nahi ho aur ager ap sunni ho to phir wahabi ko jihadi keho gay?

2.ager ap sunni ho to phir deobandi taliban ko acha keho gay jo ghustakhna aqaid ko afghanistan meh nifad karin?

3.ager ap sunni ho to afghan jang jo ke kufar aur najdi ke mal se lari gaee os ki tarafdari kro gay?

4.ager ap sunni ho to ghustakh israr ko apny jalso meh aik alim deen ki hasiyat se mado kro gay?

5.ager ap sunni ho to wahabion ke baap zia ko shaheed keho gay jis ne pak ko aik wahabi riyasat bana chaya?

6.ager ap sunni ho to pak ke dushman aur akhwan ulmuslimin modoodist ahmed shah ko acha keho gay?

7 ager ap sunni ho to kia wahabiyon deobandion ko batil aqaid rekhnay ke bawajod itahad islami me shamil kro gay ya on ko awal ghustakhna aqaid se toba krny aur phir ithahad me shamil kro gay?

8.ager ap sunni ho to kia jamat islami ki tanzimo ko acha aur mehab ulwatan keho gay?

9 ager ap sunni ho to kiyon nahi iqrar kro gay ke mein ala hazrat k maslak ko haq manta hon?

10 ager ap sunni ho to deobandi ullama ki likhi kutab se islami hawalajat do gay ya brailvi ullama se?

mein ne chand aik point ki baat ki ha laikin in ki tadad ziyada ha jis per ho skay to apni raye likh dain jo ke ap nahi karte ke yeh hi ap ka usol ha.bahi meray pas kohi assa zarya nahi ke mein bi zaid ki tarah media meh aa skon is liye net ko istamal kr reha hon aur zaid bi net per ager aa kr mayri baton ka jawab day paye to mein bi os ko mard ka bacha mano ga laikin ager wo jawab nahi dayta to phir wo mard ka bacha hi nahi ha.

ap koshish karin ke wo jawab day net per na to meinos ke pass jawon ga aur na hi phone kron ga ke mayri nazar meh zaid aik taliban ka agent ha aur kuch nahi aur is liye meh ne os ko benaqab kia ha aur mazid kron ga bi insha Allah.ap bi dekhin gay ke zaid kisi bi baat ka jawab nahi day paye ga.kash ke wo aik bar net per aa kar jawab dayny ki koshish kare laikin phir kehta hon ke wo nahi kare ga.aur yehi dalil ha os ke jhota honay ki aur khuda ki qasam yeh aik jhot ha ke musalmano ne madina bi mushrion se cheena tha khuda ki qasam ha yeh biyan jhot ha na hi yeh baat qaran wo hadees se sabat ha na tarikh se aur na hi assa dawa kisi kafar wo mushrik ne kabhi kia ha jassa dawa zaid hamid ne kia ha.jhoton per Allah ki lanat.

 

 

[Alteejani]

BARA BHAI SAB,ADMI AGR EK BAT KE PECHE PAR JAE TO NA JAM RI RAHTI OR NA DAM RI,AP BAR BAR EK HI BAT KAR TEN HEN,OR ME BAR BAR APNE JAWAB KO DO RATA HON,KHER JAB NIAT HI NA MAANE KI TO SU DALEELEN BHI DO TAB BHI BEKAR HE,AP KI NIAT HI NAHI MERI BAT SAMAJ NE KI AB ME KYA KAR SAKTA HON,RAHI BAT AP IN HAWALON KI MERA EK SAWAL HE AP SE SOUTH LEBANON ME HIZBALLAH WAHAD JAAMAT HE JO IS WAQT ISRAEL KE SAT DIRECT ENCOUNTER KAR TI HE KOI BHI SUNNI TANZEEM IS QADER HASIAT NAHI RAKHTI KE WOH ISRAEL KE SAT DIRECT ENCOUNTER KARE SOUTH LEBANON AB AGR KAL KO ISRAEL KE KHILAF JIHAD KARNE KA AP KO MUQA MILE T KYA AP MEHAZ IS LYE SHAREEK NAHI HON GAE KE WAHAN PE COMMAND JO HE WOH HIZBILLAH KE HATO HE OR WOH SHIA HEN ?

2 BAT AP ZAID HAMID KO MARDANGI KA TANA DE RAHEN HEN OR KHOD MILNE SE TAKRA RAEN HEN !

MUJE YE BATAEN KYA AP WAHAD FARD HO KE JISKO ZAID HAMID NE JAWAB ZAROR DENA HE HAZARO LOG HEN ROZ SAWAL KAR TE HEN NET PER EMAIL PER PHONE KAR KE DIRECT MIL KAR KYA YE SAB LOG NON SATISFY HOTE HEN ?

AP IS LYE TO MILNA NAHI CHATE KYO KE APKE SAWALAT NON LOGICAL HE OR APKO PATA KE ME EK BAD EK NON LOGICAL QUESTION KARTA RAHON,I THINK THIS IS NOT LOGIC

RAHI MERI BAT SUNNI HONE KI,THANKS MUJE AP SE CERTIFCATE LEN KI ZARORAT NAHI,

JIS TARA SE APKI BATEN HEN ME NAHI SAMAJ TA KE AP KOI HONESTLY SUNNIO KE LYE KAM KAR RAHEN HEN,ME AP KO OS WAQT SE CHECK KAR TA RAHA HON JAB AP ISI SITE PER COMMANDER SE ASE UN ISSUE SUBJECTS AP DISCUSS KAR TE THE KE JIS ME MATURITY KAM OR DISTURBANCE WIDE HO,

I THINK AB HAME IS TOPIC KHATAM KAR DEN CHEYE HE KIO KE ME APKE KE KHYALAT SE KABHI AGREE NAHI KAR SAKTA OR NA AP KISI KO BHI CONVINCE KAR SAKTE HEN,

AGAE APKI MARZI

Edited 19 اگست 2010 by Alteejani

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sab se pehly baat yeh ha ke ap ne likha ke (AP KO OS WAQT SE CHECK KAR TA RAHA HON JAB AP ISI SITE PER COMMANDER SE ASE UN ISSUE SUBJECTS AP DISCUSS KAR TE THE KE JIS ME MATURITY KAM OR DISTURBANCE WIDE HO,)to bahi aj ap ne mayri wahabi commander se debate per tanqid karte hen aur kal tak ap ki jo raye thee ap ne hi mayri tarif ki aur likha ke

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baki ap log mashallah in chamaron ka acha operation kar dete hen Commander ko to mut hi agai he,ab woh dobara mere khyal se jag ne ki koshish nahi kar ga) tumin yad ho ke na yad ho?ab ap muj ko batin ke ap ki soch ka miyar hi assa ha ya ap ko bhul janay ki adat ha?ke ap ki kon se baat ko rad kia jaye aur kis ko qabol kia jaye? kal tak mayri taif aur aj ap kehtay hen ke anwar sunniat ke liye kuch nahi karta? badalta ha asman rang kassay kassay?

yeh bi dekh lain ke sheikh amin ke fitna ko ap ke khadam anwar ne hi benaqa kia tha aur kia aik ghustakh Allah wo Nabi pak ko benaqab karana sunniyat ka kaam ha ya nahi? kam az kam sheikh amin ke fitnah ke mutaliq to ap ko is website se hi malomat milin ?aur ap ka iqrar naama bi paste krta hon ke ap ko shahaid yad aa jaye ke anwar ne kohi kaam to kia ha?aur ap phir kohi ilzam na lagin is baat per?

 

 

1. Alteejani

 

21 May 2010 - 13:20 baki ap log mashallah in chamaron ka acha operation kar dete hen Commander ko to mut hi agai he,ab woh dobara mere khyal se jag ne ki koshish nahi kar ga

 

Salam,Hazrat Shekh Ameen ke mutaaliq jo baten apne batai he woh kam wa besh wohi he jo Yousuf Ali al maarouf Yousuf Kazzab ke,kya ye dono apas me ek dose ko jante the?

 

[Anwar200]

kal tak ap ne hi zaid hamid ko ghalat banda likha deobandion ka hami likha aur ap ki yad dehani per hi jab mein ne is ko bohat hi buri tarah se os ki apni hi baton per expose kia to ad ap naraz ho gaye aur yad rekhin ke is baat ka ajar-e- azim ke aik jews agent banday ko benaqa karny ki towaja ap ne hi dilwai thee is ka ajor ap ko bi mily ga insha Allah.ager ap inkar karte hen to khud apni post dekh lain jis meh ap ne zaid hamid ko deobandion ka sathee keha ha khatarnak likh ha waghara.

(me yahan per ek or shakhsiat ke bare me kuch kahna chao ga Aj Kal is shakhsiat ka bara charcha he internet per bi or TV ke kaee Programme me inka nam Ata he me janab Zaid Hamid ki bat kar raha hon Bazaher to ye sab Pakistan or Islam ke( patriot)jaan nisar bane pher te hen per inka madhi kuch saf nahi he or jahan tak me samaj paya ho inko,ye saab MolanaAshraf Ali Thanvi or Rasheed Ahmed Gangoohi or Qasim Nantovi jese khayalat he inke ye saab bi ek had tak khatarnak he inko bi ap log apne zahen me rakhye ga ye bat me zati tajrebe ki bunyad per kar raha hon,)

mein mushkor hon ke ap ne zaid hamid ke khilaf muj ko kaam karny ka likh aur khuda ki qasam mein ne puri imandari se os ko suna aur phir is ko assa pakra ke wo media se bohat dino tak ghaib ho giya.ab phir se par tol raha ha laikin insha Allah ap ki dawon ki badolat is fitna ko be banda her jaga benaqab kare ga.baqi min aik adana sa sunni hon na alim deen ho n bas aik ghunagar sa insan hon mayri post sari is website per hen khud dekh lain ke wahabi deobandiyon meh himat nahi ke wo jawab day payin ab apne to khud ne is ki taid ki thee aj ager bhul gaye hen to ghunagar ne ap ki hi tehrir sanay rekh di ha.ap to khair aik sunni hen aur kabhi kabhi do bahion meh bi ikhtalaf ho jata ha meger kohi baat nahi ha mayri asal jang to deobandion,wahabion sheikh amin zaid hamid se ha aur ap ko Allah daraz omar ata kare aur ap khud dekhin gay yeh yeh sunni khadam apni akhri sanas tak wahabi deobandi sheikh amin zaid hamid ke khilaf laray ga aur insha Allah fath wo nusrat paye ga.ap bi dawon meh yad rekhin zaid hamid wahabion jamat ke khilaf kafi mowad ha laikin waqat ki kami ha baharhal jalad hi wo bi upload ho jaye ga.zaid ke pass nahi ja skta ke mantaq yeh bi ha ke os ki ghalat batin net per suoni aur net per hi os ko benaqab kia ha laikin wo jawab hi nahi day skta to mein kiyon wahan jawon maidan net ha na ke os ka office ya ghar.

ap ki sari post bi paste kr reha hon ke ap aainda se muj per tanqeed karny se qabal apni tehrir ko bi dekh lain.

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Assalam Alaikum

 

Muhtaram Akhi Anwar sab,bawajud iske ke ap ke column se Ikhtalaf raee rakhta hon per apke bunyadi unqte ki mukamal hamayat karta hon is me koi udna bi shak nai ke ye Firqa Islam ka sab se bara dushman e waqt he or jesa ke Hadees me aya he ke inka Akhri wo Fard ya Afrad woh hon gae jo Dajal ke sat mil jae ga,Yahan per ap ne koi Ameen Multani nam ki shakhsiat ka zikr kya wesa to koi baeed nahi ke Musad or CIA Pakistan me Mulk or Qom ke ghadaron ko khareed kar Pakistan ko barbad karna chati he me yahan per ek or shakhsiat ke bare me kuch kahna chao ga Aj Kal is shakhsiat ka bara charcha he internet per bi or TV ke kaee Programme me inka nam Ata he me janab Zaid Hamid ki bat kar raha hon Bazaher to ye sab Pakistan or Islam ke( patriot)jaan nisar bane pher te hen per inka madhi kuch saf nahi he or jahan tak me samaj paya ho inko,ye saab MolanaAshraf Ali Thanvi or Rasheed Ahmed Gangoohi or Qasim Nantovi jese khayalat he inke ye saab bi ek had tak khatarnak he inko bi ap log apne zahen me rakhye ga ye bat me zati tajrebe ki bunyad per kar raha hon,baki ap log mashallah in chamaron ka acha operation kar dete hen Commander ko to mut hi agai he,ab woh dobara mere khyal se jag ne ki koshish nahi kar ga,me yahn ek bat or bi

 

[Sawad-e-Azam]

Alteejani bhai, mein aap ki posts ko barri dilchasbi se parrhta hoon aap Masha'Allah sunni hein lekin najane kiyon aap ko Zaid Hamid kai aik ghalat dawa ki taweel karni parr rahi he. Jis ka bad aqeeda hona to zahir ho chukka he. Mere paas Feroze-ul-Lughat mein "Chhenana" ke 2 ma'ani likhe hein.....1: Zabardasti Lay Lena...aur...2: Jhapat Lena. Mein nahin samajhta ke Madinah Shareef ke logoan ke qabool islam ke liye koi aisi soorat ikhtiar ki gai thi. Pehli baat to yeh he ke Quran e Pak ne Mushrikeen unn Ahle Makkah ko kaha he jo ke Idol worshipping karte the. Madinah mein jo imaan nahin lai the woh Yahood the aur unhein Quran nein Ahle Kitab ke naam se taabir kia he aur woh jo ooper se to kalma parrhte the lekin unke diloan mein nifaq tha unhein Munifiqeen kaha gya he.

Ab yeh dawa to pehle lafz se hi ghalat he ke Madinay per kabhi Mushrikoan ka qabza tha, chhenana to dur ki baat. Issi liye aksar Makki suratoan ka moazu Qiyamat, Tauheed aur Shirk he. Jabke Madini suratoan mein Yahood o Nasara aur Ahle Kitab waghaira ka biyan he. Zaid Hamid ne jo bhi kaha he woh uski kam ilmi ki daleel he aur iss ki ma'azrat khahana tor per ghalat taweelain karne se Islam ko kia faida pohnche gaa?

 

Jazak ALLAH

[Eccedentesiast]

Main is topic per sirf itna hi kehna chahon ga k Hmara Aaqa nay Kaba Shareef Kuffar say Aazad kraya tha aor Buton (idols) say paak karaya tha ...

 

Maz'Allah Unsay nahaq cheena naheen tha..

[Alteejani]

DER SE JAWAB DENE KI MAZARAT CHATA HON,HAN YE MERI HI POST HE JO APNE PESH KI HE,OR SHAED APKO ANDAZA BHI HO GAYA HON GA KE MENE KIO POST KI THI,YE USI ZAMANE KI BAT HE JAB JALAL PURI SAB KI KITAB RAH BAR KE RUB ME RAH ZAN SAMNE AI,OR SHAED ME HI WOH PEHLA SHAKHS HON GA JO ZAID HAMID SE IS KITAB KE BAT NARAZ HO GAYA THA,LAKIN ZAID HAMID KI YOU TUBE PER SHIFA MEDICAL COLLEGE KE STUDENTS KE SAT VIDEO AI JIS ME USNE PORE CASE KE BARE ME EXPLANATION DI,TAB MENE YOUSUF ALI KE CASE KO CHECK KYA OR APKE YAHAN BHI AJ TAK MERA SAWAL JAWAB TALAB PARA HOWA HE FATWA SECTION ME YOUSUF ALI KE HAWALE SE,MUJE IS KE BAD BARA AFSOS HOWA IN ULOOMA SE MUJE YE TO NAHI MALOOM KE JALAL PUR I DEOBANDI HE KE SUNNI LAKIN JIS TARA KE UNKE TAJZIAT THE ZAID HAMID KE BARE ME MUJE ASI LAGA KE YE SARE KE SARE ALMI MAJLIS KHATM E NABOWAT WALE DEOBANDI HEN,AB AP LOG ZYADA BEHTAR JAN TE HON GAE,KHER ASAL SAWAL AP KA YEHI HE KE ZAID HAMID WAHABI DEOBANDI HE JAB KE ME NAHI MAAN TA,CHALEN EK PARAGRAPH BAN LENTE HEN AGR ZAID HAMID IN BATON KO CROSS KAR TA HE TO WOH SUNNI NAHI SAMJA JAE GA OR AGR IN BATON KE UNDER RAH TA HE TO AP KO ZAID HAMID KO EK UNNI AQEEDA MUSALMAN TASLEEM KAR LENA PARE GA,AGR APKO QABOOL HE MERI TAJWEEZ TO NEXT POST ME JAWAB DI JAEYE GA

AB ME USMAN RAZWI SAB SE GUZARESH KAR TA HON KE EK SAHIH SUNNI AQEEDA MUSALMAN HONE KE LYE SHARAET BATAEN,YAHA PER TAKE HAM APAS ME IN MASALE KO HAL KARE

BAKI BATEN BAD ME HO GI

Edited 21 اگست 2010 by Alteejani

[Anwar200]

DER SE JAWAB DENE KI MAZARAT CHATA HON,HAN YE MERI HI POST HE JO APNE PESH KI HE,OR SHAED APKO ANDAZA BHI HO GAYA HON GA KE MENE KIO POST KI THI,YE USI ZAMANE KI BAT HE JAB JALAL PURI SAB KI KITAB RAH BAR KE RUB ME RAH ZAN SAMNE AI,OR SHAED ME HI WOH PEHLA SHAKHS HON GA JO ZAID HAMID SE IS KITAB KE BAT NARAZ HO GAYA THA,LAKIN ZAID HAMID KI YOU TUBE PER SHIFA MEDICAL COLLEGE KE STUDENTS KE SAT VIDEO AI JIS ME USNE PORE CASE KE BARE ME EXPLANATION DI,TAB MENE YOUSUF ALI KE CASE KO CHECK KYA OR APKE YAHAN BHI AJ TAK MERA SAWAL JAWAB TALAB PARA HOWA HE FATWA SECTION ME YOUSUF ALI KE HAWALE SE,MUJE IS KE BAD BARA AFSOS HOWA IN ULOOMA SE MUJE YE TO NAHI MALOOM KE JALAL PUR I DEOBANDI HE KE SUNNI LAKIN JIS TARA KE UNKE TAJZIAT THE ZAID HAMID KE BARE ME MUJE ASI LAGA KE YE SARE KE SARE ALMI MAJLIS KHATM E NABOWAT WALE DEOBANDI HEN,AB AP LOG ZYADA BEHTAR JAN TE HON GAE,KHER ASAL SAWAL AP KA YEHI HE KE ZAID HAMID WAHABI DEOBANDI HE JAB KE ME NAHI MAAN TA,CHALEN EK PARAGRAPH BAN LENTE HEN AGR ZAID HAMID IN BATON KO CROSS KAR TA HE TO WOH SUNNI NAHI SAMJA JAE GA OR AGR IN BATON KE UNDER RAH TA HE TO AP KO ZAID HAMID KO EK UNNI AQEEDA MUSALMAN TASLEEM KAR LENA PARE GA,AGR APKO QABOOL HE MERI TAJWEEZ TO NEXT POST ME JAWAB DI JAEYE GA

AB ME USMAN RAZWI SAB SE GUZARESH KAR TA HON KE EK SAHIH SUNNI AQEEDA MUSALMAN HONE KE LYE SHARAET BATAEN,YAHA PER TAKE HAM APAS ME IN MASALE KO HAL KARE

BAKI BATEN BAD ME HO GI

bahi sahib mera mudah filhal yeh ha ke zaid hamid jhota ha wo tarikh ke waqaiat ko tormor kr logon ko bata ha aur pehlay bi likh choka hon ke ap ne sabat karna ha ke madina cheena tha aur ager yeh sabat nahi kar sktay to ap likh dain ke zaid ne jhota biyan diya ha.baqi batin is ke bad hon gee to mayray yeh kassay ho skta ha ke pehla point hal nahi howa to dosray ki taraf awon?han ager ap likh dain ke zaid ne jhota biyan diya ha to phir dosry point per bi baat ho gee insha Allah.balke sawad azam bahi ne aik bohat hi malomati baat ka izafa kia ha ke madina meh ahle kitab thay na ke mushrik.ap jab tak is point per zaid ko jhota nahi likhtay deger baton ka kohi faida nahi ha.chalin ap ager os ko jhota nahi likhna chate to phir yeh hi likh dain ke go ke kohi kutab hadees madina ko mushrikon se cheena ka hawala nahi HA LAIKIN OS KE BAWAJOD AP ZAID HAMID KI BAAT KO JHOT NAHI LIKHIN GAY?muhtaram ap her tarah se zaid hamid ke jhot ko cover karny meh nakam ho chokay hen is liye aik achay sunni ke tarah haq ka sath dain na ke jhot ka.omeed ha ke ap apni next post meh zaid ke jhota honay ka qabol kar lain gay aur os ke bad insha Allah next point per baat ho gee.

 

[Alteejani]

LI JEYE JANAB OR SONE OR BATAEN KE KYA YE SHAKHS WAHABI DEOBANDI HE,OR AB BHI JHOT HI BOL RAHA HE,

 

 

 

 

 

 

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LI JEYE JANAB OR SONE OR BATAEN KE KYA YE SHAKHS WAHABI DEOBANDI HE,OR AB BHI JHOT HI BOL RAHA HE,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

mera mudah yehi ha ke ap ya to sabat karin ke zaid ne jo biyan dia ha wo haqeeqat ha ya nahi to qabol karin ke os ne jhot bola ha.

mein filhal in videos ko sono ga hi nahi ap ager sanjida nahi hen is debate meh to phir plz waqat zaiya na karin bar bar jo baat ap se poch raha hon os pr baat karte nahi hen jo dalil ha ke ap sanjida hi nahi.ager ap pehly sawal ko clear nahi kr sktay to baqi ka kia hal ha mein ap kisi kisi bi post ka jawab ab os waqat hi don ke ke jab ap sabat karin gy ke madina cheena tha ya qabol karin ke zaid ne jhot bola ha.

[Alteejani]

ANWAR SAB AP KHUD SANJIDA NAHI HE DEBATE ME,AGR AP SIRF EK LA YANI SI BAT KO LEKAR JO KE MAHEZ TAJZIA KE TORPE KAHI GAI THI BATH GAEN HEN TO ME KYA KAR SAKTA HON,MERI TARAF SE TO KOSHISH HOVI THI KE MIDLLE KA RAASTA NIKALA JAE PER APKI NIAT HI NAHI KISI SOLUTION KI JANIB ANE KI,KHER AP NA BHI SONE TO KOI FARQ NAHI PARE GA THREAD SAB KE LYE OPEN HE OR LOG KHOD DECIDE KAR LEN GAE KE KYA SAJ OR KYA JHOT HE

 

Edited 22 اگست 2010 by Alteejani

[Anwar200]

ANWAR SAB AP KHUD SANJIDA NAHI HE DEBATE ME,AGR AP SIRF EK LA YANI SI BAT KO LEKAR JO KE MAHEZ TAJZIA KE TORPE KAHI GAI THI BATH GAEN HEN TO ME KYA KAR SAKTA HON,MERI TARAF SE TO KOSHISH HOVI THI KE MIDLLE KA RAASTA NIKALA JAE PER APKI NIAT HI NAHI KISI SOLUTION KI JANIB ANE KI,KHER AP NA BHI SONE TO KOI FARQ NAHI PARE GA THREAD SAB KE LYE OPEN HE OR LOG KHOD DECIDE KAR LEN GAE KE KYA SAJ OR KYA JHOT HE

 

afsos sad afsos ke ap kham khawa ki zeed kr ke apna aur mera waqat zaiye kr rahay hen

mozo yeh hi ha zaid ka biyan ke musalmano ne madina mushrikon se cheena tha ager ap is biyan ko sach kehtay ho to bi likh do ager jhot kehtay ho to bi likh do ke in 2 baton meh aik hi ho skti ha na bahi sahib.jhot aur sach meh kohi darmiyani chiz hail nahi hoti ke ap darmiyani ki baat kar rehay hen?yan ya na ki baat karin

[Alteejani]

HAZRAT MUDHO TO APNE KAHIN CHARE THE AB APKE LYE YEHI RAH GAYA HE KIO?

AP KHOD APNI POSTS KO PAR LEN EK MARTABA APKO YAAD AJAE GA KE SAWALAT TO BOHAT THE AB RAH KUCH NAHI GAYA KE EK UZARE BE JAAN KE SEWA ,KHER HAZRAT BAT SIDI SI HE AP MAANE YA MAANE KISI BHI INSAN PER IS TARA KI TAQHEER AMEZ BATAEN LIKHNE KE LYE SAHIH ISTADLAL CHAEYE YE GHER ASOOLI BAT HE EK MAHEZ EK WAQIA ME AGR KISI SE KOI MUBALAGHA JAZBATI PAN ME YA TAJZIAT NIGAH ME HO JAE TO AP OSKO MUKA GHANIMAT JANE OR OSKI GHER MUNATQI TASHHEER KAR NA SHORO KAR DEN,JAB KE APKO BAR BAR OSKI TASHREEH KAR DI GAI LAKIN AP HE KE ME NA MAANO,TO JANAB PHIR KYA KYA JA SAKTA HE AB AP HI BATAEN,HAMARI TO KHOWASH HE KE HAM APKI SAHIH TAREEQAE SE TASLI KAR DEN LAKIN AGR AP KASAM KHAE BETHEN HEN TO HAM KYA KARE QIBLA

Edited 22 اگست 2010 by Alteejani