Abdur Rehman مراسلہ: 5 مئی 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 5 مئی 2008 Mai nay socha kisi naiay puranay deobandi wahabi ko mazeed inkar aur bahas ki zahmat na uthani pary aur munafiqat kay taboot mai akhri keel bhee thoank dee jaiay lahaza deobandiyo ka markaz aur mahwar say he fatwa mil gaya deobandiyo sharam karo aur dub maro .. is fatway mai deobandi mufti saf Allah azzawajal kay leay jhot jaisi burai ko mumkin man raha hai aur yei bhe man raha hai kay aisa ghaleez aqeeda fatna phailnay ka bais hai lahaza awam ka samnay bayan nahe karna chaheay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHUAIB مراسلہ: 5 جون 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 5 جون 2008 nice sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Ataari مراسلہ: 26 نومبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 26 نومبر 2008 MashAllah Sag E Atar ap nay bilkul theek kaha malang ko.ye waqai malang hai balkay malang bhe es say achay hongay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasirb786 مراسلہ: 14 دسمبر 2008 Report Share مراسلہ: 14 دسمبر 2008 Asalam o Alikum Wr Wb Yaar aik simple si baat hai kay jhoot aik aib hai or Allah azwajal har aib say paak hai yehi hamara aqeeda hai or joo loog ye samjhtay hain nauzbillah min zalik kay Allah jhoot bool sakta hai onkay nazdeek Allah azwajal ki zaat e paak bhi nauzbillah min zalik aib daar hai. paglo Allah hai hi wo jo har aib say paak hoo wo rab kaisay ho sakta hai jo aib daar hoo. Allah Hafiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawaja مراسلہ: 5 مارچ 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 5 مارچ 2009 Meray Aaqal Say Peydal MalangAp Kisi Isi bat Par Ap K Ek Mufti Say Ek Banday Nay Poocha Tha K Tum Kehtay Hoo Allah (MuazAllah) Jhoot Bool Sakta Hai Is bat Ka Kiya Saboot Hai Too Us Ney Kaha K Allah Har Chez Par Qadir Hai Too Us Banday ney Us Mufti Say Poocha K Mujay Bataoo Kiya Allah Itna Bara Pathar Bana Sakta Hai Jisay Wo Kud B Na Utha Sakta Hoo ap Mujay Is Chez Ka Jawab Doo Wo Mufti Too Nahin Day Saka Dekhtay Hain Malang Main Kitna Dam Hai ???????????????????????????????????????????????? Bahi app ka question he ghalt ha agar ALLAH TALA Itna bara pathar banayien jisay woh utha na saakien tu phrr woh haar cheze paar qadir na howay.........ALLAH TALA haar cehze paar qadir ha iasss duniya aur kainaat ma kuch nahi ju uass ke taqat sa barh kaar ho....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Mohammadah مراسلہ: 7 مارچ 2009 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 7 مارچ 2009 Bahi app ka question he ghalt ha agar ALLAH TALA Itna bara pathar banayien jisay woh utha na saakien tu phrr woh haar cheze paar qadir na howay.........ALLAH TALA haar cehze paar qadir ha iasss duniya aur kainaat ma kuch nahi ju uass ke taqat sa barh kaar ho....... sawaal humara nahin janab Deobandi sahab aapka us ayat se istadlaal mardood hai...aap ka kehna hai ki Allah har har cheez par Qudrat rakhta hai wo sab kuch kar sakta hai jo jo banda kar sakta hai..maslan banda jhoot bol sakta hai to Allah bhi bol sakta hai (naql e kufr kufr nabashat) agar nahin bola saky to Allah ki taqat bandy ki taqat se kam ho jayegi...(yahi aapky ismail dehlwi ka aqeedah tha ref ke liye yakroozi dekhein) to sawaal ye tha ki kya Allah aisa paththar bana sakta hai jisy wo khud na utha saky... aapny kaha :- agar ALLAH TALA Itna bara pathar banayien jisay woh utha na saakien tu phrr woh haar cheze paar qadir na howay........ ya to wo aisa bhari paththar baneyga nahin jisy wo khud na utha saky....(to aisa bhari paththar banany par qadir na hua) ya to wo aisa bhari pththar to banayega par usy utha na payega...(to uthany par qaidr na hua) to ab bataiye ki innallaha alakully shai an qadeer se aapka istedlaal ki har har shay par qadir hona ghalat or batil hua ki nahin... jo baat aap log samajhny se qasir rahy wo ye ki Allah har us baat par qadir hai jo mumkin hai jo uski shan ke layaq hai jo shay uski shan ke layaq nahin wo us par qadir bhi nahin, Jhoot bolna aik ayb hai or Allah har ayb se paak hai... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahid Nazeer مراسلہ: 5 اگست 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 5 اگست 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) Edited 5 اگست 2009 by Shahid Nazeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zearak مراسلہ: 3 اکتوبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 3 اکتوبر 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) Janab-e-Mohtaram Raseed Gangohi aur digar ulma-e- deoband ke mutaliq ke jo app ne Ilzaam lagaya main ne is maslay par bohay tehkeek ki aur istehkeek kay mutabiq Ulma-e-Deoband jin ki main bohat izat karta hun per laga ilzam sach sabut hua aur kuch ulma-e-deoband ki bhi issay accept kiya aur Maulana Rasheed Gangohiaur aur digar Aaima ki sangeen harkat karaar diya. Abhi haal hi main Darul Aloum Karachi ke Fazil Aalim Molvi Mazhar Nayyar Deobandi ne apne ek bayan main kaha ke Sura-e-Yousuf main maujood jo Waaqia hay us main Allah ne (Maaz Allah) Mubaligha Aarai ki hay aur (Maaz Allah) Allah mubaligha karnay main qadir hay aur us ne aur Quran ki jaga bhi mubalighay se kaam liye hay aur is amal ko us ki shan qaraar dia hay.Aur mubalighay ko Balagat main se nilka ek lifz qaraar dia hay (Astagfirullah). Allah Taala ulma-e-Deoband ko hosh main laye aur haq ko jaannay aur sach ko bolnay ki taufeeq Ata Farmaye aur gustakhiyia karnay se bachaye Ameen. Dua Go Zearak Edited 3 اکتوبر 2009 by Zearak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zearak مراسلہ: 3 اکتوبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 3 اکتوبر 2009 (ترمیم شدہ) Janab-e-Mohtaram Raseed Gangohi aur digar ulma-e- deoband ke mutaliq ke jo app ne Ilzaam lagaya main ne is maslay par bohay tehkeek ki aur istehkeek kay mutabiq Ulma-e-Deoband jin ki main bohat izat karta hun per laga ilzam sach sabut hua aur kuch ulma-e-deoband ki bhi issay accept kiya aur Maulana Rasheed Gangohiaur aur digar Aaima ki sangeen harkat karaar diya. Abhi haal hi main Darul Aloum Karachi ke Fazil Aalim Molvi Mazhar Nayyar Deobandi ne apne ek bayan main kaha ke Sura-e-Yousuf main maujood jo Waaqia hay us main Allah ne (Maaz Allah) Mubaligha Aarai ki hay aur (Maaz Allah) Allah mubaligha karnay main qadir hay aur us ne aur Quran ki jaga bhi mubalighay se kaam liye hay aur is amal ko us ki shan qaraar dia hay.Aur mubalighay ko Balagat main se nikla ek lifz qaraar dia hay (Astagfirullah). Allah Taala ulma-e-Deoband ko hosh main laye aur haq ko jaannay aur sach ko bolnay ki taufeeq Ata Farmaye aur gustakhiyia karnay se bachaye Ameen. Dua Go Zearak Edited 3 اکتوبر 2009 by Zearak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awrathore مراسلہ: 16 اکتوبر 2009 Report Share مراسلہ: 16 اکتوبر 2009 yaar ap sab se ek sawal hai. agar koi alim ya mufti is poore forum per majood hai to plz meri post k baad reply kar k apni mojoodgi confirm kare. aur agar yahan koi nahi to hum mein se kisi ko bhi is topic per behes karne ki ijazat hi nahi q k hum aam log ulama k level pe nahi pohonch sakte. agar pohonch sakte hote to phir ghar ghar mein mufti betha hota aur masajid veeraan hoti. yeh to ghair muqallideen wali harkat hogayi k sab kuchh khud solve karo. itne bare aur nazuk topic ko yahan beth kar solve karne ki jo koshish kare ga woh apne eemaan se haath dho bethe ga. meri aap logo se request hai k kam az kam kuchh ulama k liye bhi chhor do aur agar munazir banne ka itna hi shoq hai to sab k sab ja k aalim k course mein admission lo. im not favoring any deobandi or barelvi. im talking in general. jis ne ghalat kiya qayamat wale din jawab de ga. ap logo mein se koi bhi kisi aur ki ghalati ka na to azab bhugte ga aur na hi ap logo se is fatway k bare mein sawal hoga qabr mein. so kindly just cut this crap. tafarqa phelane wali baton se bachein. dhoodh ka dhula to koi b nahi, agar yahan per rasheed ahmed ghanghoi ko ap uchaal rahein hein to phir jawab mein ahmed raza khan ko bhi uchala ja raha hai. kam az kam apne buzurgon ki hi izzat ka lihaz kar lo. dono fareeq khayal kar lein thora sa yeh meri ap logo se darkhuwast hai. umeed hai k ap logo ki samajh mein meri baatein aayi hongi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Atif Sha مراسلہ: 7 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 7 اگست 2010 sawaal humara nahin janab Deobandi sahab aapka us ayat se istadlaal mardood hai...aap ka kehna hai ki Allah har har cheez par Qudrat rakhta hai wo sab kuch kar sakta hai jo jo banda kar sakta hai..maslan banda jhoot bol sakta hai to Allah bhi bol sakta hai (naql e kufr kufr nabashat) agar nahin bola saky to Allah ki taqat bandy ki taqat se kam ho jayegi...(yahi aapky ismail dehlwi ka aqeedah tha ref ke liye yakroozi dekhein) to sawaal ye tha ki kya Allah aisa paththar bana sakta hai jisy wo khud na utha saky... aapny kaha :- ya to wo aisa bhari paththar baneyga nahin jisy wo khud na utha saky....(to aisa bhari paththar banany par qadir na hua) ya to wo aisa bhari pththar to banayega par usy utha na payega...(to uthany par qaidr na hua) to ab bataiye ki innallaha alakully shai an qadeer se aapka istedlaal ki har har shay par qadir hona ghalat or batil hua ki nahin... jo baat aap log samajhny se qasir rahy wo ye ki Allah har us baat par qadir hai jo mumkin hai jo uski shan ke layaq hai jo shay uski shan ke layaq nahin wo us par qadir bhi nahin, Jhoot bolna aik ayb hai or Allah har ayb se paak hai... hazrat unho ney tu Allah ki Kudrat ka zikar kia hey yea tu nahi ka k vo Jhoot bolta hey.................... or dosri bat yea k tamam barli mil kar ek list banaeen jis vo tamam bateen lekheen jin per allah ki kudrat nahi hey.......... or un batoon ka zikar bhi kary jin per Allah qader hey......... nez sath sath kisi baralvi ka esa fatwa bhi attach kareen jis mey yea lekha ho k Allah key pas jhoot bolny per kudrat nahi hey agar esa na kia gea tu janab arz hey k is topic per musalmano ko gumrah mat kareen ........... shukriya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Mohammadah مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 hazrat unho ney tu Allah ki Kudrat ka zikar kia hey yea tu nahi ka k vo Jhoot bolta hey.................... or dosri bat yea k tamam barli mil kar ek list banaeen jis vo tamam bateen lekheen jin per allah ki kudrat nahi hey.......... or un batoon ka zikar bhi kary jin per Allah qader hey......... nez sath sath kisi baralvi ka esa fatwa bhi attach kareen jis mey yea lekha ho k Allah key pas jhoot bolny per kudrat nahi hey agar esa na kia gea tu janab arz hey k is topic per musalmano ko gumrah mat kareen ........... shukriya Read my first post of this topic on 1st page see Fatwa Rasheediya's Scan pages for more proof... Allah ke Qudrat me Jhoot bolna bhi shamil hai or dosri bat yea k tamam barli mil kar ek list banaeen jis vo tamam bateen lekheen jin per allah ki kudrat nahi hey.......... or un batoon ka zikar bhi kary jin per Allah qader hey......... Tum list ki baat karty ho to pehly apny Akabir ki list to lete jao ki jumla Qabeeh afaal Allah ke liye mumkin maan chuky ab kis mu se tum yahan hum se Allah ke liye unki list mangty ho jin par Allah qadir nahin ...lanat hai Deobandiyat par.. Allah Chori Jehal Sharab Khori par Qadir : Mehmoodul Hasan Deobandi Jumlah Qabeeh Afaal Allah ke liye Mumkin Agar Allah Jhoot na bol saky to Bandy ki Qudrat Allah se Barh Jayegi :Ismail Dehlwi Allah Jhoot bolny par Qadir hai :Baraheen e Qatiya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Atif Sha مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 [quote name='Ya Mohammadah' date='08 August 2010 - 12:23 PM' timestamp='1281252203' post='62941'] [b]Read my first post of this topic on 1st page see Fatwa Rasheediya's Scan pages for more proof...[/b] [center][attachment=39061:Deobandi belief about Allah.gif] [b]Allah ke Qudrat me Jhoot bolna bhi shamil hai[/b] [attachment=39055:deoband se fatwa.jpg] [size="3"][color="#800080"]Tum list ki baat karty ho to pehly apny Akabir ki list to lete jao ki jumla Qabeeh afaal Allah ke liye mumkin maan chuky ab kis mu se tum yahan hum se Allah ke liye unki list mangty ho jin par Allah qadir nahin ...lanat hai Deobandiyat par..[/color][/size] [b]Allah Chori Jehal Sharab Khori par Qadir : Mehmoodul Hasan Deobandi [attachment=39065:chori sharab or zina.GIF] Jumlah Qabeeh Afaal Allah ke liye Mumkin [/b] [attachment=39059:Deobandi saboot.JPG] [attachment=39056:Aljehdul muqil--title.JPG] [attachment=39057:Aljehdul muqil--41.JPG] [attachment=39058:Aljehdul muqil-60.JPG] [b]Agar Allah Jhoot na bol saky to Bandy ki Qudrat Allah se Barh Jayegi :Ismail Dehlwi[/b] [attachment=39060:yakroza.jpg] [b]Allah Jhoot bolny par Qadir hai :Baraheen e Qatiya[/b] [attachment=39063:baraheeny qatiya- title.JPG] [attachment=39062:baraheeny qatiya- 2.JPG] [attachment=39064:baraheeny qatiya- 274.JPG][/center] [/quote] janab ap ney fatwa nahi dekhaya k kis baralvi ney kaha hey k Jhoot bolna allah ki qudrat mey nahi hey or na hi esi list ai jis mey ap ney bataya ho k Allah kin chozoon per qadir hey or kin chezo per nahi.......... jaha tak ap key Ala Hazzrat ki bat hey tu vo Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH ko bhi Mukhtar kul manty hain ap kia khear hey esi ulti sedhi bateen un key sath attach karny k bary mey.............. App ney tu foran Allah key bary mey itni bazari zaban istemal ki hey lekin Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH key bary mey kia boleen gey jin ko Allah ney Mkutar kul bana kar Bheja............... shukriya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Mohammadah مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 Author Report Share مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 janab ap ney fatwa nahi dekhaya k kis baralvi ney kaha hey k Jhoot bolna allah ki qudrat mey nahi hey or na hi esi list ai jis mey ap ney bataya ho k Allah kin chozoon per qadir hey or kin chezo per nahi.......... jaha tak ap key Ala Hazzrat ki bat hey tu vo Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH ko bhi Mukhtar kul manty hain ap kia khear hey esi ulti sedhi bateen un key sath attach karny k bary mey.............. App ney tu foran Allah key bary mey itni bazari zaban istemal ki hey lekin Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH key bary mey kia boleen gey jin ko Allah ney Mkutar kul bana kar Bheja............... shukriya Deobandi tum par Allah ki lanat ho ki tumhary imaan ka safaya ho chuka ki tum Allah ko jhoota or usky liye jumla kabeeh afaaal mumkin maan chuky...Allah ke liye jhoot or kabeeh afaal to door ki baat wo fail jo na achchy ho na bury un tak ki nisbat Allah ki taraf karna haram hai...dekho Ahle Sunnat ke Kutub e Aqaid he hawaly..rahi baat Nabi ke liye mukhtaar e kul ki to unhy Muktaar e kul Deeni ummor me mana gaya hai ki jis hukm ko chany nafiz karein jisy chahy mansookh kar dein, jisky liye chahy wo farz sakit kar dein.....hum Ahle Sunnat to Nabiyon ko Masoom manty hain tum Deobandis Ambiya ke liye Gunah ki nisbat ka Aqeedah rakthy hogy...La Howla Wala Quwwata.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eccedentesiast مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 Read my first post of this topic on 1st page see Fatwa Rasheediya's Scan pages for more proof... Asif bhai bahut shukria .... very ncie sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Atif Sha مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 janab jhoot per qadir hey lekin un ka jhoot bolna muhal hey....... nez esa akeda rakhna kesa hoga k vo kisi ek kam k lea bhi Allah key pas qudrat nahi hey........ mushkil or muhal hum insano key lea hey Allah key lea kuch bhi muhal nahi hey............. al gharz jab ap key pas koi thos evedence nahi hey tu i think is bat per dosro ko kio kham kha glat fhami mey mubtala kar rahy hain or dosron to bura bhala bol rahy hain ......... Ahmed raza bhi gay or ap bhi chaly jaeen gey per yea sabit nahi kar paeen gey k allah kin kin cheezoon per kadir nahi hey................. agar yea itna hi batil akeda hey tu ap log kio fatwa nahi dety hain Allah Qadir nahi hey Jhoot per............ agar esa ho tu yea Ahtamal hoga k Allah bhi kuch cheezoon per chahy vo ek ho ya 10 Qadir nahi hey jo key her giz Allah ki shan nahi hey..... buri cheez ki taseer tu Allah ney khud peda ki hey........... ab jhoot bolna glat hey kio k Islami shareat is ki ejazat nahi deti lekin agar islami shareat is ki ejazat deti tu kio Jhoot bolna islam mey gunah hota ...........or na hi yea eb hota ba kio k Allah tu shareat ka paband nahi hey or na hi hum apni pasand ya na pasand key mutabik un ki kudrat ka taun kar sakty hain lehaza bhoot bhater hota k Allah ko her cheez per qadir maneen........... shukriya or akher mey na hum bolty hain k allah jhoot bolta hey or na yea bolty hain k koi galat kam karta hey yea tu ap key akaberin ney bari bari hading lagadi key Wahabio ka Allah jhoot bolta hey yea un ki galat fhami peda karny ka nateja hey.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Atif Sha مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 (ترمیم شدہ) janab jhoot per qadir hey lekin un ka jhoot bolna muhal hey....... nez esa akeda rakhna kesa hoga k vo kisi ek kam k lea bhi Allah key pas qudrat nahi hey........ mushkil or muhal hum insano key lea hey Allah key lea kuch bhi muhal nahi hey............. al gharz jab ap key pas koi thos evedence nahi hey tu i think is bat per dosro ko kio kham kha glat fhami mey mubtala kar rahy hain or dosron to bura bhala bol rahy hain ......... Ahmed raza bhi gay or ap bhi chaly jaeen gey per yea sabit nahi kar paeen gey k allah kin kin cheezoon per kadir nahi hey................. agar yea itna hi batil akeda hey tu ap log kio fatwa nahi dety hain Allah Qadir nahi hey Jhoot per............ agar esa ho tu yea Ahtamal hoga k Allah bhi kuch cheezoon per chahy vo ek ho ya 10 Qadir nahi hey jo key her giz Allah ki shan nahi hey..... buri cheez ki taseer tu Allah ney khud peda ki hey........... ab jhoot bolna glat hey kio k Islami shareat is ki ejazat nahi deti lekin agar islami shareat is ki ejazat deti tu kio Jhoot bolna islam mey gunah hota ...........or na hi yea eb hota ba kio k Allah tu shareat ka paband nahi hey or na hi hum apni pasand ya na pasand key mutabik un ki kudrat ka taun kar sakty hain lehaza bhoot bhater hota k Allah ko her cheez per qadir maneen........... koi am admi kary esi bat tu alag bat hey lekin vo tu ap key Ala hazzrat hain ....... sharam ani chya ap ku or akher mey na hum bolty hain k allah jhoot bolta hey or na yea bolty hain k koi galat kam karta hey yea tu ap key akaberin ney bari bari hading lagadi key Wahabio ka Allah jhoot bolta hey yea un ki galat fhami peda karny ka nateja hey.............. ab agar mey yea kahon k janab agar akedy ku bughaz key sath dekheen tu bhoot galat galat tavel nikalti hey jin mey beshak Ahmad raza top per hain lekin mey esi ghaliz bateen nahi akrna chata kio k ap ney mana nahi hey ......... ap ney dini umor ka zikar kia jis mey Harat Muhammad PBUH ko mukhtarkul mana hey agar *****************************************************************************...... nez ap ney jo apni post mey Ahmed raza ki ebarat attach ki thi tu kia Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH key lea esa akeda rakhna durust hey k vo her eb apny uper halal or dosron per haram kardeen ........... na sirf halal kareen bulky baqaeda karen bhi.................... sharam ani chya ap logo Edited 9 اگست 2010 by Ya Mohammadah Disgusting language for our akabir is not allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Atif Sha مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 8 اگست 2010 ab agar mey yea kahon k janab agar akedy ku bughaz key sath dekheen tu bhoot galat galat tavel nikalti hey jin mey beshak Ahmad raza top per hain lekin mey esi ghaliz bateen nahi akrna chata kio k ap ney mana nahi hey ......... ap ney dini umor ka zikar kia jis mey Harat Muhammad PBUH ko mukhtarkul mana hey *************************************************************************nez ap ney jo apni post mey Ahmed raza ki ebarat attach ki thi tu kia Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH key lea esa akeda rakhna durust hey k vo her eb apny uper halal or dosron per haram kardeen ........... na sirf halal kareen bulky baqaeda karen bhi.................... sharam ani chya ap logo mazeed yea k hum bhi Ahle sunnat hain or hum bhi nabyoon ko masoom or Allah ko her eb sey pak manty hain sirf ap ney thaka nahi le rakha............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eccedentesiast مراسلہ: 9 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 9 اگست 2010 دامان باغ سبحن السبوح http://www.razanw.or....php?itemid=138 Download: http://www.razanw.org/data/01-alahazrat_books/01B-alahazrat_books_pdf/109-daman_e_bagh_e_subhan_as-subbuh.pdf Or: daman_e_bagh_e_subhan_as-subbuh.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eccedentesiast مراسلہ: 9 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 9 اگست 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Atif Sha مراسلہ: 10 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 10 اگست 2010 bhoot khub quran mey ek ayat hey Quran ki ek ayat ka tarjuma hey k Or agar hum chaty tu samjha dety her ji ko us ki rah..... ek or ayat ka tarjuma hey Or agar hum chaty tu bhagty her basti mey samjhany vala ek or ayat ka tarjuma hey Or agar Hum koi bhalava ektear karna chaty tu apny pas sey esa kar lety agar hamy esa karna hi hota ek or ayat ka tarjuma hey Or agar Allah erada karta k apny lea Beta banata tu apni makhlooq mey sey jisy chata chun leta Pak hey vo ek hey Allah sab per Ghalib hey..... Shukriya................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saeedi مراسلہ: 12 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 12 اگست 2010 (ترمیم شدہ) Or agar hum chaty tu samjha dety her ji ko us ki rah..... Or agar hum chaty tu bhagty her basti mey samjhany vala Or agar Hum koi bhalava ektear karna chaty tu apny pas sey esa kar lety agar hamy esa karna hi hota Or agar Allah erada karta k apny lea Beta banata tu apni makhlooq mey sey jisy chata chun leta Pak hey vo ek hey Allah sab per Ghalib hey..... Shukriya................... یہاں ایک بھی آیت ایسی نہیں جو امکانِ کذبِ باری کو ثابت کرے البتہ تمہارے مولوی لکھتے ھیں کہ اگر اللہ استطاعت وقدرت رکھتا تو علم قیامت کو اپنے آپ سے مخفی رکھتا کیا اب اللہ کی استطاعت و قدرت ناقص ھو گئی ھے جو علم قیامت کوخود سے مخفی نہ رکھ سکا؟ Edited 12 اگست 2010 by Saeedi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Atif Sha مراسلہ: 13 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 13 اگست 2010 یہاں ایک بھی آیت ایسی نہیں جو امکانِ کذبِ باری کو ثابت کرے البتہ تمہارے مولوی لکھتے ھیں کہ اگر اللہ استطاعت وقدرت رکھتا تو علم قیامت کو اپنے آپ سے مخفی رکھتا کیا اب اللہ کی استطاعت و قدرت ناقص ھو گئی ھے جو علم قیامت کوخود سے مخفی نہ رکھ سکا؟ is sey sabit kio ho raha hey ap bata deen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saeedi مراسلہ: 13 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 13 اگست 2010 is sey sabit kio ho raha hey ap bata deen یہ بات بھی سمجھ نہ آئی! اس سے یہ ثابت ھو رھا ھے کہ جس طرح اللہ کا کسی بات سے بے علم ھونا عیب ھے اور قدرت و استطاعت باری تعالٰی سے اس کا تعلق نہیں ھے۔ ایسے ھی اللہ تعالیٰ کا بے صدق ھونا بھی عیب ھے اور قدرت و استطاعتِ باری سے اس کا کوئی تعلق نہیں۔ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Atif Sha مراسلہ: 13 اگست 2010 Report Share مراسلہ: 13 اگست 2010 (ترمیم شدہ) یہ بات بھی سمجھ نہ آئی! اس سے یہ ثابت ھو رھا ھے کہ جس طرح اللہ کا کسی بات سے بے علم ھونا عیب ھے اور قدرت و استطاعت باری تعالٰی سے اس کا تعلق نہیں ھے۔ ایسے ھی اللہ تعالیٰ کا بے صدق ھونا بھی عیب ھے اور قدرت و استطاعتِ باری سے اس کا کوئی تعلق نہیں۔ in ayat mey Allah ki kis Qudrat ka izhar kia gea hey........ nez kia allah agar chaty tu sab insanoo ko hedayat dey sakty thy k nahi?...........mazid yea k in ayat mey jo yea lekha hey ..... agar hum chaty tu....... Agar allah erada karta......... kia Allah ki qudrat key bean mey nahi hey........ shukriya..... Edited 13 اگست 2010 by Muhammad Atif Sha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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