Junoon26

tu iska matleb he saeedi sb k ap is baat se itefaq kertey hen k esaion k sath chrismas mana koi bura fail nahi...... or dosra sawal kia siyasi log sheriat k dairey se bahir hotey hen..."yahood or nasara se dosti na kerna" wali ayat siyasi logon per lago nahi hoti..?

blue chips bahi ager hum ne b wohi kerna he jo wo kertey hen tu hum me or unme ferq kia he....humare payare nabi tu us aurat ki temadari k liye gaye jo un per kora phenkti thi.....ye hamare payare nabi ka deen he.. bahi post edit keren k lekin us post me apni teraf se addition nahi kerni chayie...ap alag post me uska reply ker den...

bas aik guzzarish he or meri nazar me ye khayanat bhi he.... kisi ki post me ap editing srf delete kerne ki had taq honi chayie koi apni teraf se addition nahi honi chayie......jis terah lhrusa ki post me delete ker k new video dali gaye or apni teraf se lafz add kyie gaye....ye ghalat he he ab wo lagta he k ye post kerne wale k ilfaz hen....or isi baat per ghusa bhi aya he lhrusa ko... hum in cheezo ka khyal rekhna chayie...

chisti bahi or all members me apni kam ilmi hesiat or na tajerba kari ki waja se is behes se withdraw hota hun..or mujhey bht dukh huwa admin ki is herkat ki waja se me aik bar phir admin ki is herkat per muzamat kerta hun admin ko koi haq nahi phuncta k wo kisi bhi member ki profile me uski ijazat k begher mudakhlat kerey... admin ya koi bhi moderator ko koi haq nahi k wo kisi bhi member k mdhab ka tayun khud kerey ...or meri is website k owner se guzarish he wo admin ki is herkat per us se poch gush kerey...... me is forum ko nahee chor sakta coz mujhey yahan seekhney ko bhot kuch mil reha he or inshahallah me is se faida b uthaon ga..... kaha suna maaf ki jiyie ga....

ya muhamadah bahu aik or sawal he niyaz ya esale sawab hum kabhi bhi ker saktey he kia ys is k liye koi khas waqt muqerer tu nahi.. kia iska khana hum kisi gher muslim ko de saktey hen...

wese i seriously condem the act of chaging some one profile without the permission of the member....bht giri hoi herkat he ye...admin should be answer able

janab e chisti sahab meri bhi apki wali baat he..... chisti g pata nahi apko samjh nahi ari ya me samjha nahi pa reha..sir g kalma alag hone se fitna nahi phel reha janab apko dosra kalma sun k kia ghusa ata he wo ikhtelaf he lekin is ikhelaf se masherey me fitna nahi phel reha fitna tab phelta he jab wo sahaba pe lan tan kertey hen.....maaz Allah........... phir ap hum per bughze sahaba kese sabit ker rehey hen... kon badbakht shia ka difa ker reha he janab apni teraf se tanqeedi qiyas mat keren... or janabe chisti sahab hume shia ka difa ka koi shoq nahi me khud gustakh shia ko apna dusman samjhta hun sab se bara dushman... chisti g tafseer behreen k bare me mujhey nahi pata ap zara tafseel se bata de ya koi link weghera...

oh janab chisti sahab apne sahee kaha asal me mene apse koi sawal nahi pocha lekin jinho ne apse sawal pocha apne unse ulte sawal poche or jahan kahin acha jawab aya wahan ap idhe udher ki baten kerney lage... chisti sahab ap kahan ghoma rehey hen humey ap shyd baat nahi samjhey....kalma alag hone se, numaz alag hone se fitna nahi phelta..fitna tab phelta he jab shia sahaba ikram ko galian detey hen umhat ul momineen ko bura bhala kehtey hen....tab fitna phelta he dear..... or chisti sahab ap wazih keren k gustakh shia ko tahir ul qadri sb ne kab sunni kaha.....yad rakhiye ga gustakh shia ko....or mere bahi aj k dor me khuch shia aise b hen jin ki soch me is kisim ka ghulo nahi or wo inteha ashri shia ki muzamat kertey hen... kia ap unk sath nermi se paish nahi aye ge.....un k sath itehad nahi ho sakta kia..... le g chisti sahab ap sabit keren k hum ne shaba ki gushtakhi kab ki....ap pe lazim he k ap dikhayen k hum ne sahaba ki gushtakhi ki...... or bahi ap bataaye tu sahee k kon se tafseer bayan ker di majlis me....hume pata tu chaley k tahir ul qadri sb ne falan baten ki majlis me jo sunni aqeeda nahi ya jo khalistan shia aqeedah he... admin thekedar he logon k mazhab change kerne ka just shame on admin kitni giri hoi herkat ki he admin ne kia alahazrat ka maslak ye he...

can anyoney tell k mera mazhab q change kia gia or kis ki ijazat se....

janab chisti sahab apk sath masla srf ye he ap shrow se sawal hi kere ja rehey hen jab apse jawab manga jata he tab bhi ap sawal kerne lag jatey hen...chisti sab zara hosh keren q Ala hazrat k maslak ko tabah ker rehey hen her dafa tanqeed sahi nahi hoti baz auqat dosron k dalail ap k dalil se zada mazboot hotey hen or insaan ko tasleem kerna chayie....mger ap hen k ya tu post delete ker detey hen ya kuch or ker detey hen........bahi mere kitabe isi liye chapi jati ta k wazih ho sake k asal baat kia he or logon ko dikhaya kia ja reha he......please chisti sahab kia ye hamara deenhe k dosron ka muqaf sune begher un per fatwe jari ker do... or chisti bahi tahirul qadri sb ne shia ki majlis me kia perha ye tu qom ko batyen.....kia taqreer ki...ye tu bata den zara....or mee bahi shia se bunyadi ikhtelaf bughze sahaba hi he jis se hum me ghamo ghussa paya jata he werna wo apne apko peetey jo merzi keren sunni ko koi perwa nahi...

saif ali bahi or raza bahi hum tu brelvio per bhi fatwa nahi lagate na un per ieteraz kertey hen bas un k ieteraz k jwaba detey hen bahi tahir ul qadri sb ka sirf itna qasoor he k wo muslim umma k itehad ki bat kertey hen or kuffar ko ko ye baat na pasand he..

chisti sb apki post perh ker lagta he jese kisi chotey se bachey ki post ho jis ka feeder cheen lia ho very sorry to say ap jese level k bandey ko srf jawab deney k liye post kerni chayie na k is terha ki baten kerney k liye.... or chisti bahi tahir ul qadri sb ne rade shia se pehley kia kaha kia nahi is se apko kia gherz ager wo keh detey jo ap chah rehey hen to kia aj apki good book me hote nahi bilkul nahi or chisti bahi ye sereis ap k liye nahi he ye mere bahi kia ho gia he ap logo ko wo sereis shia k kuch aqaid k rad me he jis se ahle sunnat me bht gussa paya jata he or shia me un aqaid ki waja se sahaba se nafrat....ager wo sahaba ko bura bahala kehna chor de or unko sahee man le tu shyd kisi ko b koi eteraz nahi....

exposing nifaq sb ye speech had lagane k liye nahi ki gayi balke ye sch or jhoot dikhane k liye ki gaye he ap tasub ki ainak laga ker dekhey ge tu sab ghalat hi nazar aye ga......bahi ager apko kuch ghalat sabit kerna he tu ye sabit keren k is speech me jo b baat ki gaye he wo ghalat he......or mere bahi ye dawa ap k liye nahi kia gia or na apse kisi ne pocha he k ye apko qabool he k nahi...... ap k appreciate kerne per is liye ieteraz kia gia k ap jis kam ko appreciate ker rehey hen usi me nuqs bhi nikal rehey hen or nuqs bhi aise jo us ka hisa nahi..yani ap qauid e azam k mazmoon me nuqs ye nikal rehey hen k is me Allama iqbal k bareme nahi bataya gia... ager un taqreeron me koi ghalat baat ho tu wo ap quote keren..taqreer ghalat ki gaye ye iteraz keren taqreer ghalat jaga ki gaye ye ieteraz ap ko zaib nahi deta... iska jawab apko ghayas sb dege q k me is bare me nahi janta... or jo irfan shah sb ne kaha us per apka kia muqaf he....

kia hum hazrat esa (a.s) ki wiladat ki khushi nahi mana saktey jab k hum unse esaio se zayada payar kertey hen........

nahi toheedi bahi me koi jarah nahi ker reha asal me jab mukhalif per is hadees ko paish kia jata he tu wo sawal ker sakta he is liye me tayar rehan chata tha ta k mujhey maloom ho us k ieterazor un k jawabat.......ye mera srf ik ilmi sawal he...

asal me bahi me is hadees k ravio ka ahwal jana chah reha tha k ulma ka kia nazeria he in ravio per....

sage madinah bahi ye oper meri post he shyd apko ghalat fehmi hoi he mene bola k mere pas aisi koi riwayat nahi jis em hazrat ali(r.a) en saza di ho sirf is bunyad per k kisi ne ap(r.a) ko sheikhien per fazeelat di.....or mere bahi jo riwayat apne paish ki is ki sanad bata di jyie ga.. lekin mere pas jo riwayat he wo sahee sanad k sath he lekin us k ilfaz me ferq he .... or bahi apki dosri baat ki dossri baat ka jawab kia ap tasub ki pati apni ankhs e utar nahi saktey.......kia fatwa ko quran or hadees se abit nahi kia jata..kia ye masla aisa he jis per fatwa lagaya jaye....

Toheedi bahi kia ap mujhey is hadees ki grading bata de ge....

janab sage madinah bahi... is bare me mera jawab ye he k mere ilm k mutabiq kisi shaks ne ap r.a k samne sheikhien ko fazeelat nahi balke ap r.a k samne aik shaks ne aa ker kaha k kuch log apko abubaker or umer per fazeelat detey hen tab hazrat ali(r.a) ne ye fermaya k jo mujh(r.a) ko abubaker(r.a) or umr (r.a) per fazeelat de me usko koron ki saza don ga..... ab mera sawal ye tha k ap(r.a) ne kis ko saza di is ka jawab ap logo ki teraf se us shaks ki misal ayi jo shiekhien ki shan me gustakhi kerta tha.......humne kab inkar kia k sheikhien ki gustakhi per korey na maro.....lekin kisi ko ager is baat per saza di jaye k wo hazrat ali(r.a) ko fazeelat deta he bas....hazrat ali(r.a) ne is kisim ki saza kisi ko nahi di.... han mere pas aisi koi riwayat nahi jis me hazrat ali(r.a) ne is kisim k saza di ho......ap k pas he tu paish keren.... or sage madinah bahi hazrat abbas r.a shoro me hazrat abubaker(r.a) ki nisbat hazrat ali(r.a) k khalifa bane k haq me they ye baat apko pata he ....mena wo hazrat ali(r.a) ko fazeelat detey they abubaker(r.a) per ab kia ap un per shia hone ka ilzam lagaye ge...... bahi mere ager koi umat k ijma per ikhtelaf kerta he tu kia usko ummat se farigh ker dena chayiee or us per shia rafzi hone ka fatwa laga dena chayie....insaaf se faisla keren... baqi ka jawab apko ghulam ahmed bahi de ge

janab sag e madinah sb chalen hamri simt tu apko pata chal gaye lekin syd apko apni simt kla abhi taq anza bhi nahi ho saka..q k apne jo hazrat ali ka qol lagaya wo syd khud bhi nahi perha or jo wazahat ki wo bhi apko nahi pata chalen me apkokuch samjhata hun.. bahi hazrat ali(r.a) ka qol k jis ne mujh ko fazeelat di abubker(r.a) or umer(r.a) per usko me koron k saza don ga yehi qol sunaya tha na apne mula kainat ka ya kuch or.... lapne wazaht me bola k mola kainat ne unko jinho ne abubaker r.a or umer r.a ki shan me ghustakhi ki unko koro ki saza di....ye wazahat di apne..... bahi kia pko hum bewaqoof nazar ate ya ap khud bane ki koshish kertey hu.....

exposing nifaq sb yahan ap khiyanat se kam le rehey hen aik teraf ap kehtey hen tahir ul qadri sb k kam ko ap appreciate kertey hen or dosri teraf ap kehtey hen k unho ne hukem nahi dia munafaqat se kam lia...kia ye muafqat nahi... or mere bahi sipah shaba ke bare me apko comments dene ki koi zarorat nahi or wo jo shia k khilaf kam kerr rehey hen wo sab k samney he...or unki effort meri nazar me apki effort se zayada he...ye mera nazeriya he or bahi ye kahan likha he k kisi k rad me hukem lagana zarori he or wese tahil qadri sb ka maqsad is series se shia ko unki ghalti ka ehsas dilana he na k unko suuni mazhab se nafrat dilana...please apni9 nazar se ye tasub ki pati ko utar den mukhalif ko ghalat kehna bht asan he mger uk kisi kam ko sahee kehna bht mushkil...

alsaifia bahi awal ye sab anjaney me likha gia wese bhi jab quran ne keh dia k Allah unse razi huwa or wo Allah se razi hue..tu ab koi mere ya apk likhne se koi ferq nahi perta...or han ager phir apko bura laga tu me mazrat khuwan hun apse b or Allah se bhi mafi ka talabgar hun....wese apne sidique ka lafz nahi dekha shyd....any ways Hazrat Abu baker siddique or hazrat umer farooq dosri baat alsaifia bahi wo ye k jo sawal sage madinah bahi ne kia wo uska jawab he.....hazrat ali ne ajizana tor per ye baat kahi jese hazrat abu baker siddique ne kahi.....hazrat abubaker siddique ne kabhi nahi kaha k me sab se afzal hun or na hi hazrat ali ne ye afzaliat umat k ijma per he or hamara bhi is ijam per ietefaq he ka bad az inbia afzal bashar Hazrat Abu baker siddique lekin bahi ye aqaid me shamil nahi ager koi is se itefaq nahi kerta tu munafiq nahi na uska shumar shia me hota he na wo dozakhi ho jata he bas ye hamari bat he.....kher ye sirf sage madinah bahi bat ka jawab tha k ap hazrat ali k is qool sekisi per munafiq ya shia hone ka label nahi laga sakta.... or bahi ye ieteraz buhut bewaqoofana he or same ieteraz shia kertey hen.....us waqat jo sahaba ikram ko sahee laga unho ne kia ortareekh gawah he k unka faisla bilkul sahee tha or hazrat abubaker siddique awal khalifa ki waja se afzal bashar nahi blke apne taqwe ki bunyad per hen.....or bahi hadees k ilfaz he k muhammad ne fermaya mere ashab k mamle me Allah se derna unko bura bhala mat kehna jis ne unko bura bhala kaha usne mujhey bura bhala kaha...ap ne ye nahi fermaya k jis ne kaha k ali afzal hen abubaker siddique usne bura kia wo ummat se kharij ho gia...ye sab afziliat tu ummat ke ijma per he....

Sage madinah bahi awal tu dr sb ka aqeeedah kia he wo apko ghalam ahmed 17 hi bata de ge or kai dafa bata b chuke hen..... or apne jo riwayat paish ki k hazrat ali(r.a) ne fermaya k jo mujh ko abubaker or umer per fazeelat de me usko kore maron ga....tu janabe wala hamar aqeedah bhi yehi he mger sir apki is baat ka jawab ye he k ap humko bata den k hazrat ali(r.a) ne kitno ko korey marey...shia us waqat tu mojood they kisi shia ko is waja se kore mare k wo ap r.a ko hazrat abubaker per fazeelat deta hu korey marey hun ... or kia ap wo baat bhool gaye jab bani saqeefa me me hazrat abubaker siddque ne khutba dia ....k ae logo mujhey tumhara wali banaya gia he hata k me tum me behtareen admi nahi hun.....is riwayat ka ap kia jawab de ge....

apne bilkul sahee kaha saif ali bahi...mger mene ye bat sirf unko samjhane k liye ki thi ..bil ferz ye kheney se k ali(r.a) sab se afzal hen koi shia nahi ho jata... Bahi me dr sb ki pori series dekhi he jo rade shia per he or mene unki series sideque akber ki shan b sunni sab mujhey unk point of view ka pata he....or is series k bad shia ko jo hal wo inko nahi pata or bahi sipah sahaba wale bhi dr sb k is amal ko sarahtey hen....or unho ne apne forum pe pori sereis load ki he....