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Salfiya, Tum always bewagufoon wali post kun kartay ho jis k kuch fida b nahe hota. aur itni lambi k jis main na sar aur na paon. Agar tum wo vedio dekho gay jis main kant chant hoe hogi tu kiss hathi ki ankhoon waloon ko b nazar nahe aye ga. ja ja kay deoband ki site par pura munazara dekh jis main koe chant nahe tab tum ye question nahe karo gay.

Kafala-e-haq jis site say para ha please uska hawala musj post kardain. thanks

Kohat Munazara main tum logoon nay sun he liya hoga k barelvi ulma nay lekha ha jo Ahmed Raza k Aqeeda aur Amal say mutabakat na rakhay wo kafir ha. 1) Tum man gay k Ahmed Raza nay Jaloos nahe nikalay it mean tum Ahmed Raza say mutabakat nahe rakhtay tu tum kia huwa. Pakay 100000 paky kafir 2) Tumharay munazar nay kaha Ashabay Rasool SAW nay Jaloos nikalay milad k aur ye sunnat ha Magar Tumara Majadad nahe nikalay, aur AIma Arba main say kitno nay es sunnat par amal kia please wazahat kardo. 3) Agar kiss tabligh nay kaha k jo chela nahe lagay ga wo kafir yan Ahle sunnat say farigh so post karo. Jishnay deoband kia tha eska fatwa Khalifa tu achi tara say janta ha. magar phir b bay sharmoo ki tara wohe baat repeat kar raha ha. Aur BilfaRz ham esko maan b layn tu kiss deoband nay kaha k jo aisa nahe karay ga wo kafir yan Ahle sunnat say Faragh. agar ha tu post karo. MAGAR JO AHMED RAZA SAY MUTABAKAT NA RAKHAY WO KAFIR AUR TUM NAHE RAKHTAY TU TUM APNAY ULMA KI NAZAR MAIN KAFIR PAKAY KAFIR Ab tu mujy bata Ahmed Raza nay kun jaloos nahe nikalay?? kia wo esko bura samaj ta tha. yan ilam ki kami thi. Aur ye b bata day k Fatwa Rizwiya main lekha ha jo Sheikh ki na many wo Akhrat main azab main jay ga. Sheik nay 10 Maharam ko Birth lekhi ha tum shiek ki kun nahe mantay. Tum to already Jahanimi ho wo b pakay. Ahmed Raza k mutabak.

Ap tu apnay munazar say b bar kar nikly. next time ap munazara karna kun kay ap k munazar tu shayad 100rahay thay esliya unko pata nahe chala. Mairi post ko 2sary topic say delete kardiya gia. chalay ap he bata dain Ahmed Raza Barelvi nay kitnay jaloos nikaly Eid Milad un Nabi kay. Ye baat ap ka munazar b nahe bata saka tha

Ji Chisti Sahab, Yaqeenan ap nay sara munazara dekh liya hoga, aur apnay munazar k baray main socha hoga k kahan pans gia. 1)- Ahmed Raza aur baki barelvi kahrahay ha k ye book Sheikh ki ha. Ab ap ye kahan gay k ensab ko maghalta laga.. magar ahmed raza tu ghalti say pak ha. 2)- Ap k munazar ko jab kaha gia k Pir Nasir udin ka inkar kar2 k tum nahe manty magar usnay nahe kiya. ab ap kahany gay k usnay ki magar dil main aur deoband dil k batain nahe jantay magar sab barelvion nay tu sun liya tha. 3) Taqviya tul iman k hawal ap k munazar end tak pesh na kar saka chalain ap he post kardain.

Chisti Qadri, Ap es book ko Sheikh RA ki book mantay hain. YES or NOT, You tube upload hogia ha,

Aik tu Malfoozat moutabar nahe hotay. dosary hawalay b Moulana Ashraf ali thanvi k nahe, BARELVIO KUCH TU SHARAM KARO MAGAR HO TU

Kitni baar tum delete karo gay, akhar haq waziya hona he ha.

Toheedi, Aray ho bewaquf, Allah jab din lyta ha hamakat ae he jati ha. Baquf insan main b saboot he mang raha hoon kay saboot 2 k thanvi RA nay apnay tamam malfoozat ki nazar sani ki aur publish honay k baad b check kiya takay koe kami beshay na hojay. Ab agar tum malfoozat ka koe hawala 2gay tu mairi jaan malfoozat tu moutabar henahe hotay. Tum baat 2011 k lay aye, Lagta ha Ahmed Raza k malfoozat tum ko yaad ay gay jis main Dawate-Islaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaami walon nay kufriya aur namanasab ibarate halway ki tarah hazam kaden.

Saeedi, Ye tu ap wo baat kar rahat hain uta chor kotawal ko dantay ye ap nay sabit karna ha k Ashraf Ali Thanvi nay tamam malfoozat khud pary aur publish honay k baad nazar sani b ki,

Chisti sahab, Apnay say kis nay kahdiya k ye ibarat ghalat hain, khud he faisla kar liya, jisay Nasir Nouman ki post delete karnay k baat kiya tha. Baat malfoozat k moutbar honay ki horahe ha barelvion k nazar main. aur ap k pass kiya saboot ha K Ashraf Ali Thanvi nay har malfoozat par nazar ki thi, Ghalaban agar main ghalti par nahe hoon tu ap ka moutabar Saeedi sahab yan koe aur ap k ulma ye kah chuckain hain k bas olaqat book ko beghybair pary tafreez kardi jati ha. Chisti sahab pahly ye mamla nabtal layn malfoozat main kiya lekha ha kiya nahe ye tu baad ki baat ha.

Tumahari Ilmi Hasiyat kiya ha Dawatay islami k samnay. Zalzala Dar Zalzala tum nay nahe pari warna itni hamakat wali baat na kartay. RaZakhani jahan b hoga islam k khalaf he baat karay ga

Aqal me barelvi ho tu haqq samjh nahi ata. Iylas Attar Qadri nay tu ap k ala hazrat k malfoozat ki dajiyan ura di, ibarate halwa samaj kar kaha gia. Baat k liya koe mesal he di jata ha, aur Kisi Sunni alim ny ye nahi kaha k har malfooz ghair moutabar hay. es ka matlab jo kam ka ho wo mutabar aur jis par tanqeed ho wo ghair moutabar Sahe baat ha wo barelvi he kiya jis main akaal ho.

Ap main ap tamam barelvion ko kiya kahon. jo mainy baat pouch kissi nay us ka jawab nahe diya aur new story post karnay start kardeen. KIA BARELVI MAZHAB MAIN MALFOOZAT MOUTABAR HAIN (YAKEEN NAHE) AUR AP K AKABAR NAY ES SAY POINTS LEYNAY SAY MANA KIYA AB AGAR KOE BARELVI MAZHAB WALA KISSI DOSARY KI MALFOOZAT PAR BAAT KARY TU WO BARELVI MAZHAB SAY GHADARI HOGI. Yahan par tu ye baat mainy start main he kahi thi k deoband k nazdeek moutbar hain yan nahe es par tu baat he nahe hosrahe. kiya Ahmed Raza yan dosaroon k malfoozat jin loogon nay lekhay kiya wo barelvi mazhab main moutbar nahe thay. kuun EXPOSINGNIFAG sahab.

Muadnay karam k waqiya 1933 ka aur hasmul harmain bohat pahly chap chuki thi. ap es baat ka iqraar kar rahay ho k Hasmul Haramain bilkul makbool na hoe, kissi nay uspar aitbar na kiya aur bohat say loogon nay esko par b nahe. esliya to Amir e Shariyat k name kay sath RA lekha gia ha. Ap 1933 main ye b nahe kah saktay k unko ibarat ka ilam nahe howa,

Saeedi sahab, Ap nay itni lambi post lekh di barelvion ko impress karnay k liya, mujy aik baaT clear kardain deoband barelvi main ikhtalaf siraf ibarat ka ha. jaisay k ap nay lekha. Aur ap nay mairi post k jawab nahe diya aur apni tavel start kardi. ap ki tavel say andhi taqleek walay barelvi impress hosaktain hain main nahe, us main saf saf lekha ha. AHLE SUNNAT WAL JAMAT KAY IKABAREEN------. Saeedi sahab ap nay kaha main galiyan dyta hoon, Lanat ho uspar jis nay gandi zuban pahly istamal ki ho aur jo jotha kissi par ilzam lagay us par b sab ki lanat. Please amin kahdain. aur mairi wo post b yahan par past kardain. takay sab ko pata chal jay ap kitni chay hain. Dosary baat ap nay kaha Deoband form par galiyan di jateen hain ap aik aisy gali lekh dain jo Deoband nay ap ko di ho aur wo Ahmed raza nay deoband ko nah di ho. aur kisi moutabar member k name bema gali b post kardain jo ap ko di ho. Mujy es k intazar rahay ga.

Admin, Mairi posts delete karnay say bahtar ha k mujy waisay he kah2 k forum say chalay jo, Nasir Nouman ki b ap nay ye kah kar post delete kardi k tum nay purani post ki ha, ap legay rahnay dytay faisal logoon nay karna ha. ap tu apnay faisla k mutabak winner ho.

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Razavitiger, Tum es baat ko accept kar rahay ho k Ibarate akabar k tankeedi jaiza ka write tumahar ulma main shamal nahe. kiya tumahary nazdeek ye moutbar book nahe???? jawab do Ho akal say anday, lanat ho us shakes par jis nay buri zuban pahly istamal ki ho. Zara bara kar k amin kahdaina

Wah chisti sahab, ab main yahan koe mesal doonga tu post delete hojay gi. Main ye baat he nahe kar raha k ye barelvi ha yan deoband. MAIRA SIDAH SADAH question ha es admi nay deoband ki tareef ki ha. Ahmed Raza k fatwa ki roshni say ye kafir howa yan muslim. I am repeating again i am not saying this person is barelvi or deoband or ahlehades. he just praise deoband then please issue what fatwa should be against him.

Ya Sahab, Lyn ab ap ki kasar baki thi. Ye baat apnay barelvi member ko samjain, k natu gandi zuban istamal karain aur na fazool post. Maira ap say sawal ha k Barelvi Mazhab main jab aik cheez moutbar he nahe tu ap usko count kar k apnay ulma ki mukhalafat kar rahay ho yan nahe. Ahle sunnat deoband k nazdeek moutbar honay yan na honay ki tu baat he nahe kar raha. post ap kartay akabar ap k esko mutabar nahe mantay tu kiya ap anay akabar k baghi howay k na. JO baat horahe ha uska jawab dain simple.

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Razavitiger, Akal k anday, main jo baat kar raha hoon uska tun jawab nahe dyta, yahan baat Alhe Sunnat wal jamat deoband ki nahe horahe. Yahan par baat ahle bidate ki horahe ha. aur ap k forum k sab jantay hain k kiss nay baat ki thi k mulfoozat moutabar nahe. ye saeedi yan khalil rana say ap private messge say pouch saktain hain. Ab akal say khali raza mujay bata tumahary mazhab k mutabak malfoozat moutabar nahe aur agar tum malfoozat k hawalay do tu tum apnay mazhab say ghadari karo gay yan nahe. Ab dobara deoband ki baat na karna k wo halawala dytay hain yan nahe dytay unki na baat horahe ha yahan barelviyat ki horahe ha. Mager wohe bat razakhani ho akal istemal karenananananan

Razavitiger, Barelvi mazhab main malfoozat moutabar nahe hain. ye ap ki book main lekha howa ha. lehaza jo cheez ap k akabar k nazdeek moutbar nahe tu eska matlab agar ap usko moutbar jantay ho to barelviyat mazhab say ghadari hoe yan nahe. Yehan par na baat horahe ha deoband malfoozat ko moutbar jantay hain yan nahe. ye alag mouzo ha. yahan par jo baat horahe ha wo karo. Magar wo barelvi he kiya jo to the point baat karay. Tell me Malfoozat acceptable in barelviyat, ye then then it mean you are rebel of your akabar.