abu hurerah

khuch to sharam karo hazrat ayesha ka fatwa ha kiya tum us par amal nahi karte ???????? or ilzam kaisa tumhari muslim ke page lagaye hain:rolleyes:

agar daleel se bat ki jaye to ye bhi hamare insan hone ki daleel ha ke wo mera bhai ban gya ha kher tum man to chuke ho ke tum main aisa hota ha to pher tumare to bohat se bhai hoon ge yar or agar mujhe sunni hone par tum mujhe apna bhai bna lo ge to main bhi sunni ho jata hoon

nahi beta maine use bhi hazrat ayesha ke fatwe se bhai bnaya ha

itni jaldi kiya ha main reply kar deta hoon ke quran main shaheed ko zinda kaha gya ha theek ha ab khosh ab mera bacha matam par mazeed bat is thread main karo. http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?/topic/3139-matam-karne-ka-sharai-hukum/page__st__40

tumhara andaaz bhi bohat acha ha jab jawab na ata ho to topic he badal do , pher main yehi kahoon ga is topic ko ghalt sabit karo jo ye ha. <h2 class="maintitle"> </h2><h2 class="maintitle">کیا مرنے والے پر گریہ اور نوحہ کرنے سے مردے کو اذیت ہوتی ہے؟؟</h2> agar nahi kar sakte to chup karke beeth jaoo tum ne bat matam or azadari par shoro kar di kher tumhari thori se tasali to main abhi kar deta hoon baki post ke end par link doon ga agar matam par koi masla ha to wahan par bat karna. kala libas: hzarat umer shadeed garmi main kali chadar orhe howe the. tareekh tabri page 2836. hazrat usman ke qatal pe ik garoh ne kale kapre pehne howe the. RASOOL SAWW kali imama pehna karte the. Jami al Tirmidhi, Edition 1, Page 542 Sahih Muslim, Kitab Al-Hajj Book 007, Number 3146: Sunan Nasai, Edition 8, Page 211 Sunan ibn Majah, Page 79 Al Muajum Al-Saghir, by Tabrani page 9 Zaad al-Maad, Volume 3 page 402 hazrat umer ki wafat pe jinaat ne kale kapre pehne noha parha or matam kiya. Riyadh al Nadhira Volume 1 page 198, imam hassan as ne kala imama pehna howa tha. Sharh Shumail Tirmidhi, page 166 apne baki gele shikwe neche wale thread main karo is thread main jab reply karna jab iske topic ko ghalt sabit kar sakte ho to. http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?/topic/3139-matam-karne-ka-sharai-hukum/page__st__40

mujhe pta ha aap loog kitabeen parne se ziyada waqt JOGTEEN sekhne main lagate hain is liye latifa sunane ke bajaye kaam ki bat kiya karo agar tumhe hawaloon main koi masla ha to bolo ya pher rawayat zaeef ha?????/ or agar sog har saal nahi manaya ja sakta jo tum keh rahe ho to pher har saal EIB MILAD UL NABI bhi nahi mana sakte kyunke tumhari MANTAC ke mutabiq ise bhi bar bar peda hone kaheen ge.

1 : agar kisi thread main reply karne se pehle thread ko par liya jaye to bohat behtar hota ha takke purani bateen repeat na hoon. 2 : jab kisi kitab ke scaan pages lagate ho to book ka naam bhi likha diya karo . kher jahan tak shemar ke "follower of IMAM ALI AS" hone ki bat ha to agar ye koi shia authentic kitab ha jab bhi us ka shia hona sabit nahi hota jaise ke ik chota se sawal ka bhi tak jawab nahi diya gya ke kiya shian e ali as(follower of imam ali) sab ke sab shia the????? agar sab shia the to sunni kahan se aye ?????? imam hussain as ko imam manane se koi shia ho ata ha??????? to aap loog imam hussain ko imam hussain nahi kehte or ajeeb jahiloon wali bat ki ha imam abu hanifa , malik ,shafi , ghazali inhe tum imem nahi kehte????????????? is ke ilawa main pehle keh chuka hoon ke kufa main chand se ziyada hakiki shia na the ibne ziyaad ne yahaan se sab shia marwa diye the bus ginti ke chand he bache the jin shioon ka imam hussain as ko shaheed karna kisi bhi kitab se sabit ha or kiya ginti ke 10,12 afraad ne imam hussain as ko shaheed kiya tha jo ke khilaaf e aqal ha kher baki sab sirf aap logoon ki tarhaan sirf shia hone ka jhota dawa hekarte the jaisa IBNE HAJAR MAKI NE SAWAIQ E MOHARIQA MAIN kiya ha. shah abdul aziz mohadis dehalvi ne tohfa isna asheri main kiya ha ke awaleen shia darasal ahle sunnt the. wahabi molvi waheed uz zama ne lugha tul hadees main shia hone ka dawa kiya. or jaisa ke main ibne hajar maki ka bhi bta chuka hoon wo bhi showaiq e mohariqa main kehta ha ke wo shia jin ke fazail main ahadees warid hoieen hain wo ahle sunat han kofe main koi hakiki shiaoon ke na hone ki daleel zara apni hi kitaboon se lijiye. mokhtasarran kofa ko hazrat umer ne abad kiya tha or hazrat umer wahaan ke loogoon ko bohat passand karte the. tabkat ibne sad jild 6 page 3 ik martaba HAZRAT MALIK BIN USHTAR RA ne hazrat usman ke khilaf khuch kaha to sare kofa wale un ke khilaf ho gye(yakeenan hazrat usman ko teesra khalifa mante hoon ge) tabri jild 5 page 189 misar kofe main aksariaat hamiaan e usman ki thi or wahan ki ye halat thi ke hazrat ali as ko galliaan di jateen theen. tabri jild 6 page 141. hazrat ibnr abbas ne hazrat imam hussain ko kaha ke aap kofe na jayeen wahaan ke ke loog dhoke baz han agar aap ko jana he ha to yaman chale jayeen wahaan aap ke shia mojood hain(ibarat saaf zahir karti ha ke wahaan shia nai the.) tabri jild 6 page 217. abeduullah ibne ziyaad ne hazrat hani bin arwa ra se kaha ke jab mera baaap yahaan kagovernor howa tha to us ne yahaan se sare shia qatal kar diye the siwaye tum or tumhare baao ke(janab jab aap ke 5th calaipha ki hakomat aai thi to unho ne jo yahaan par chand sai shia the unho ko bhe marwa diya balke yaheen se nahi balke jahaan jahaan se ho saka) kofioon ke aqaid: ik martaba HAZRAT MALIK BIN USHTAR RA ne hazrat usman ke khilaf khuch kaha to sare kofa wale un ke khilaf ho gye(yakeenan hazrat usman ko teesra khalifa mante hoon ge) tabri jild 5 page 189 misar kofe main aksariaat hamiaan e usman ki thi or wahan ki ye halat thi ke hazrat ali as ko galliaan di jateen theen. tabri jild 6 page 141. iman hussain as ko shaheed karne wale hazrat usman ko ameer ul momineen kehte the kiya koi shia kehta ha? imam hussain as se usman bin ufaan ka badla liya gya ab ye bhi koi shia ye ga kia? imam hussain ko shaheed karne wale to bohat se aap ke motabar loog han masllam umer ibne saad( saad ibne abi waqaas ka beta jo ashra mubashra main shamil ha) hazrat umer ise bohat passand karte the or un se door main wo hakoomat main bhe raha yakkeenan wo hazrat umer ko khalifa manta ho ga jo shia nai balke aap mante ho. mohammad bin ashas ali bin fart wagera wagera wagera. or shemar maloon se aap se sab se bare mohadiss iman bukhari ne hadeeseen rawayat karke apni lazawan mohabbat ka saboot diya ha. khood ibne ziyaad hazrat usman ko taki, zaki , ameerulmomineen wagera wagera manta tha jo aap logoon ka aqeeda ha. tareekh tabri. aap ke bohat motabar sahabi abdullah ibne umer ne kaha jo yazeed ki beyaat tore ga wo mujh se juda hoga ab btaiye ke ibne umer ka mokaam kin ke haaan buland ha????? in sab batoon se zahir hota he ke iman hussain as ke qatiloon ke aqaid shioon se to nai alibata aap logoon se zaroor milte hain. wase to ye behas meri pehli post pe he khatam ho gaye thi kyunke mujhe abhi tak us ka koi sahi jawab nahi mila shiaoon ka qatil sabit karna to kiya aap loog apne defend main he khuch nahi likh sake kher zara khuch mazeed saboot dekhiye. waqiya karbala main hussaini lashkar se hazrat nafe bin billal ye kehte howe age aye ke main "main ALI AS ke deen par hoon", or yazeedi lashkar se muzahim bin harees ye kehta howa aya ke"main usman ke deen par hoon" hazrat nafe ne muzahim se kaha ke "too shetan ke deen par ha" is waqiye se saaf zahir hota ha ke shaheed hone wale MOLA ALI AS ke deen par the or un ke mutabiq usman ka deen shetan ka tha or shaheed karne wale usman ke deen par the. ab mera nahi kheyal ke is main mazeed khuch kehne ki zarorat ha. wase is main qabil e ghor bat ye ha ke karbala main shaheed hone wale usman ke deen ko shetan ka deen samajhte the kher ye mozo e behas nahi ha is par main koi mazeed bat karke tumhari topic se bhagne ki khowahish pori nahi kar sakta. ye lijiye aap ke liye ik or tohfa shemar maloon ke aap ke sath talooqat. ab bhi khuch kehne ki zaroorat baki ha kiya ?????????????? or han jo tumne last main intihai ghtiya daleel se ye sabit karne ki koshish ki ha unho ne hazrat usman ki taraf dari taqqiya main ki thi to is par to main kiya kahhon itni ghatiya or jahilanaan daleel ko mera nahi kheyal rad karne ki koi zarorat ha par pher bhi bas itna he kahoon ga ke imam hussain as ke lashkar main se jab hazrat nafe bin billal aye to unho ne kaha ke main ali as ka perokar hoon to agar yazeedi lashkar main se kisi shia ne taqiyya karna tha to wo ye kehta ke main bhi ali as ke deen par hoon par us ne kaha ke main usman ke deen pe hoon ye kaisa taqqiya howa?????????????? wase to tumhari ye bat bhi tumhare iman ki tarhan intihai ghatiya or kamzoor thi. agli dfa koi dhang ka jawab dena ya pher apne dostoon teejani or sag e madina ki tarhan BAD WORDS use karna apni aap ko sacha sabit karne ke liye.

ik too tum loog jhoot bolte howe bhi nahi thakte ye hajj nahi ha balke hajj ki tarning ho rahi ha wase bhi is topic pe pehle bat ho chuki ha

tumhare jawab main parne wala hota he kiya ha

chalo agar mera ana manzoor nahi ha to kisi sunni ko bheej doon?????

beta post ko pehle ghor se parha karo jiss thread ka tumne link diya ha wo kisi or razaat ke bare main ha main bare umer main razaat ki bat kar raha hoon . mujhe is ka jawab to do.