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abhi hazrat hamza as ka matam baqi ha

chishti sahab meri to aap se ye guzarish ha ke teejani or sag madina ko topic se dor he rehne ka mashwara deen deen take behas zara pursakoon or BAD WORDS se paak ho sake kher aap ne bat ki shaheed par matam karne ki ke shaheed zinda hota ha is ka matam nahi kiya ja sakta,. or jahan tak matam wale thread ki bat ha to wo usi waqt khatam ho gya tha jab aap ke jad al mukhtar sahab IBNE ISHAQ ko zaeef sabit nahi kar sake. pehla jawab: shaheed be shak quran ki ro se zinda ha magar shaheed ke ahkam bhi murde he ki tarhan hote hain maslan us ki tadfeen karna ,us ki werasat ki takseem karna, wagera wagera aap ke mutabiq shaheed ka matam is liye nahi ho sakta ke wo zinda ha ye aap ki MANTAQ(LOGIC) ha shaheed ke matam ke hawale se to pher isi mantaq ke hisab se mere khuch sawaloon ka jawab dejiye. agar shaheed zinda ha to us ki tadfeen kyun hoti ha jabke tadfeen to murde ki hoti ha. shaheed ki bivi ko wedwa kyun kaha jata ha? use edat kyun guzarni parti ha? dosri shadi ki ijazat kyun hoti ha jabke us ka khawand to zinda ha? shaheed ka matam is liye nahi kar sakte ke wo zinda ha to pher jo aksar hamare hain agar kisi ka koi rishte dar shaheed ho jaye to wo rota kyun ha kya wo ro kar ghalt karta ha ??? agar wo ro kar ghalt nahi karta to matam kiss tarhan ghalt howa, or agar ghalt karta ha or is ka us ko gunah milta ha to kiya un logooon ke sath zulm nahi ha ke unhe rone bhi nahi diya ja raha jabke wo rona chahte hain? jis tarhan ke maine kaha ke shaheed beshak zinda hota ha par is ke ehkam murdoon jaise he hote hain jiss tarhan shaheed ki tadfeen wagera ho sakti ha jabke tadfeen murda ki hoti ha to matam kyun nahi? dosra jawab. aap ko pehla jawab maine mantaqi andaaz main diya ab dosra jawab aap ki motabar tareen kutub se shaheed or zinda ka matam pesh e khidmat ha,. hazrat bilal ka matam: hazrat bilal ne jab rasool saww ko marz ki halat main dekha to matam karte howe bahar aye. madarij al nabowa jild 2 page 544 ye leen janab hazrat bilal ne nabi ki zindagi main matam kiya. BIBI FATIMA KA MATAM: ohad ke ehwal main shah abdul haq muhadis dehalvi likhte hain. oor jab fatima zehra sa ne ye bat sunni(nabi kareem saww ki shahadat ki)to sar petateen hoween ghar se bahar(ohad ki janib)doreen madarij al nabowa jild 2 pagr 163(kanpoor) BIBI FATIMA SA ne nabi ki shahadat pe matam kiya. rasool saww ka gham karna imam hussain as par RASOOL SAWW OR HAZRAT ALI AS hazrat ali as ne farmaya ke main ik roz hazoor saww ki khidmay main hazir howa to aap ki ankhoon se anso jari the maine kaha ya nabi saww kiya aap saww ko kisi ne naraz kiya ? aap saww ki ankhoon se anso kyun jari hain?to aap saww ne farmaya ke jabraeel as abhi mere pass se uthe hain bus unho ne mujh se ye biyan kiya ha ke hussain as furat par qatal kiye jaye ga pher jabraeel as ne kaha ke agar aap chahate hain to main aap saww ko wahan ki khak sunghaoon? maine kaha" han"pas jabraeel as ne hath barhaya or ik muthi khak mujhe di pas meri ankheen aisi to na theen ke na roteen. muntakhab kunzul imal bar hasheya musanad ahmed ibne hambal vol 5 page 112 misar ye rawayat kai tareekoon se warid hoi ha khuch rawayat main hazrat ali as ka rona bhi ata ha. ye dekheen RASOOL SAWW iam hussain as abhi shaheed bhi nahe howe or aap as ki shahadat pe ro rahe hain jo shahadat se pehle ro raha ha kiya wo bad main na rota?? apne aap ko sunni kehne waloo imam hussain as ka gham manana RASOOL SAWW ki sunat ha ab tum agar apne aap ko suni kehte ho to is sunat par amal kyun nahi karte or kehte ho ke zinda ka kaisa gham? ibne hajar iskilani kehte hain ke imam hussain as ke gham main aap as ki zoja ume robab ik saal tak roteen raheen (asaba) hazrat usman shaheed howe the ya aap use shahadat nahi mante agar mante ho to ye dekheen hazrat usman ki zujaoon ka matam. hazrat umer shaheed howe the????? hazrat umer ki wafat pe jinaat ne kale kapre pehne noha parha or matam kiya. Riyadh al Nadhira Volume 1 page 198, hazrat umer bhi aap ne nazdeek shaheed hain na? un ka matam howa wo bhi jinat ne kiya. yakeenan aap loog nabi ko zinda mante ho to ye leen NABI KAREEM SAWW ke wisal par matam. hazrat ayesha ka matam. kiya hazrat ayesha bhi ye manteen theen ke nabi mar kar matti main mil gaye hain????????? agar zinda manteen theen to matam kyun kiya???? hazrat zaid bin sabit ka marsiya: kiya hazrat zaid bin sabit bhi rasool saww ko mara howa samajhte the?? tesra jawab : agar shaheed ka gham karna jaiz nahi ha to aap ke ulma IMAM HUSSAIN AS ka gham kyun manate hain darasal ye to aap logoon ki zid or ahle bait as se bugz ha jo is kam se mana karte ho maine khud kai sunni ulma ko imam hussain as ka gham manate suna ha or baqaida majalis hoteen hain or saboot ke liye ye khuch pages bhi laga raha hoon shah abdul haq mohadsi dehavi ke han ki majalis: shah rafiuddin mohadis dehalvi kehte hain ke moraam main mailis karnasahi ha mazeed

aap ke razaai bhai mujhe ban jo kar rahe hain is waja se newid bnana parta ha

aap ki is post main bhi wohi sari bateen theen jin ka jawab diya ja chuka ha ke kisi ke age shia likha hona is bat ki daleel nahi ha ke wo shia he ha kyunke shiaan e ali main shia bhi the or sunni bhi agar sab shia the to sunni kahan the???? ik bat tumne tareekh tabri ke hawale se ye kahi. "aur jahan tak tareekh Tabri ka baat hai tu wo khud Imam Tabri ka nazdeek mutber nahi hai Tabri ka muqadma dekh lo " to mere bhai tareekh tabri aap ki sabse motabar tareen kitab ha or muhammad ibne jureer e tabri tumhara sab se bara mowarikh ye to aap ne intihai ajeeb bat kar di ke tareekh tabro motabar nahi ha agar motabar nahi ha to tumhare ulma ne tareekh tabri ko tareekh ki sabse motabar kitab kyun mana ha?????/ last main aap ki is post ki taraf chalte hain darasal aap in pages ko post karke khud buri tarhan phanse gaye ho zara page dubaran parho main attach karta hoon,. is ke hasheye main mushtararan ye likha ha ke wo shaks shia ho nahi sakty kyunke un ke nazdeek un ka koi imam nahi tha magar shia aqqaid ke mutabiq koi bhi imam us waqt tak dunya se rukhsat nahi hota jab tak ko dosra imam na ajaye. is ka jawab aap ne khuch is tarhan diya., "yahan Shia na aik wazaht karna ki koshish ki hai ka wo shia nahi tha kyon ka shia imamat ko mansoos kahta hain tu as ka jawab zamnan arz kar raha hon ap ki ahadees main likha hai Allah kai Dafa Imamat ghalat admi ko di(mazullah)ap ka bidaa ka aqida main likha hai ka Allah na imam Ismail ko banya tha likin wo walid ki zandagi main intqal kar gai as liya imamat Mosa Kazim ki taraf muntaqil ho gai" pehli bat to ye ke aap ne is bat ka koi hawala nahi diya. dosri bat ye ke aap ki ye bat bilkul bhi un ka shia hona sabit nahi karti simple si bat ha kisi na kisi imam ka hona zarooro hota ha aap to bech main bida ki bat le aye ab in dono ka aapas main kiya link????????/ last main yehi kahoon ga ke abhi mujhe meri pori batoon ke jawab nahi mile aap ne abhi tak koi khas bat nahi likhi jise imam ye sabit ho ke imam hussain as ko aap logoon ne shaheed nahi kiya tha .

raza khani pagal ho chuke hain inhe pta he nahi chal raha ke ruswa kon ho raha ha mere bete main to kehta hoon lanat ho un logoon ko jo thread main la jawab ho rahe hain or koi mantaki jawab nahi de pa rahe

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