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yahan ya zaroor dekhna ka tum na Hazrat Ali ka naam kas jagha sa ana ki rawiyat ki hai.

Aura yahan aik aur gustakhi hazrat Ali ka walida ki mujoodgi main asa kya zaroorat hoi ka Abu Talib na Doodh pilaya Huzoor Aliksahalm ko apna.kya ya gustakhi nahi hai. aab kuch Gustakhian Nabi alihsalam ki shaan main .Hazrat Aisha ka Husan wa jamal na Huzoor Alihslam ko dewana bana rakh tha Maazulllah.(Kaleed e Manazra pg 311) Huzoor Alihsalam,Aisha aur Hazrat Ali aik charpai par sota tha.Maazullah(kitab Salim bin Qais pg 197) Huzoor Alihsalam hazrat Aisha sa Haiz ki halat main jama karta tha.Maazullah(Tohfa e Hanafia pg 272) Ya sab likhta hoa mera hath kanp raha hian aur dil khoon ka ansu roo raha hia likin in Shiaon ki wajha sa ya hawala dina par raha hian.

Tum tu ho hi jhoota jin ka Imam jhoota jin Rasool jhoota Maazullah wo khud kya sacha hon ga.aba jawab da baat ko ghuma nahi aur ager itna ziyda ilm hai tu meri apni community bhi mujood hain wahan muqabla ho jai wahan koi tumhain delet nahi kara ga aur band bhi nahi kara ga likin sirf tum aur main bolo manzur.

Janab mujha jawab dina itna hi asan hai tu Ghadir e khum main Hazrat umer ki bait hazrat Ali ka hath par main jawab kyon nahi da dita itna din sa wahan tu koi jawab nahi diya tum na. http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?/topic/9526-%d8%ba%d8%af%db%8c%d8%b1-%d8%ae%d9%85-%d9%85%db%8c%da%ba-%d8%ad%d8%b6%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b9%d9%85%d8%b1-%d8%a8%d9%86-%d8%ae%d8%b7%d8%a7%d8%a8-%da%a9%db%8c-%d8%a7%d9%85%d9%8a%d8%b1%d8%a7%d9%84%d9%85%d8%a4%d9%85%d9%86%d9%86-%d8%b9%d9%84%db%8c-%d8%b9/

Kya bachon ki tahran rona lagiia hoa hai ka aap ki postain delet ho rahai hain jawab nahi hai tu ya buhut acha bahana hai janab ager delete hi karni hoti tu wo post delet karta jas main aap na Sheikheen ki Tauheen ki hai aur bahgna ka acha tareeqa hai aab tumhara pass koi jawab nahi hai as liya ab ya batain hain tumhara pass.

Janab haram tu aab bhi hai likin logon na as ka istimal buhut shoro kar diya as liya deen ki khatair asa karna para likin hum ab bhi apna buzurgon ki tasveer nahi banata aur khas tur par Ahlebait ki ka yahi tu on ki saahn main gustakhi hai ka kasi bhi admi ka chahra banaiya aur os ko maazulah Ahlebait ka naam da diya aur gustakhi kasa kahta hain.Bareek kapra ka pecha beth kar janabat sekhna ya kon si hadees hai haan aab main dekhta hon Shiaon ki auqat aur main yahi tu intazar kar raha tha ka tum yahan apni bakwas karo aur main tumhain pakron. chalo ayhan tu araman thanda ho gai ka Nabi Alihsalam Main Biwi ki khulwat main araha hain.Maazullah.kyon ka Nabi alihsalam ka alfaz hain ka jab tak main na ajaon Kaam na karna as ka kya matlab hai Azad sahab aur dono ka darmayan paon daraz karna ka kya matlab hai.

adher khud dekh la andha osi hasab sa naam rakha hain jas hasab sa on ko khilafat mili yahan tak ka pehla sahbazada ka naam Abdullah aur abu Bakr hai jo bilkul Abu Bakr Sadiq sa milta julta hai..

janab main phair ya kahta hon ka pehla Apni rawiyat ka mutabiq on ko Sadiq tu man lo Chalo mazo wohi rakhta hain aur ata hain As baat par ka Sadiq Akber kon likin ager main aap ki kitaab sa Sadiq Akber sabit karon tu man lo ga?Abhi kuch dinon pehla As khadim ko aik shia na kaha ka humari kitaab sa dekha do ka Jabril na Pegham lana main ghalti ki jab hawala diya tu wahan sa ghaib ho gai mujha asa hi lagta hai ka tum ghaib ho jao ga ya kah do ga ka osi mani main Sadiq akber kaha hai jas main Ghar main kaha tha.0 Janab Shalwar kas ki gali ho rahai hia os sa ka tu pata chal raha hai tum na Sadiq ki dosri Tafsir aur apni kitaab ki hadees ka kya jawab diya mujha dekha do zara.Jnab jahan tak Ajeeb fatwaon ki baat hai tu Abu Hanifa ka aik ajeeb fatwa hai aur aap ka Imamon ka sara fatwa Ajeeb hain aik halal kahta hai dosra osi cheez ko haram kahta hai.as sa ajeeb aur kya ho ga.aur jahan tak raqeeb ki baat hai wo aik jahil insan hai. Janab ap na jawab nahi diya kyon ka os main as baat ka koi jawab nahi hai ka Hazrat Ali na ya naam kyon rakh aur asal sawal yahi tha Chalo tumhian aik aur sawal dita hon ka Hazrat Ali aur imam Hassan na apna beton ka naam asi sekwans main kyon rakha pehla Abu bakr dosra umer aur tesra Uthman kya ab ya combination bhi Sahaba main kahian aur hai bolo.janab tum ko as ka jawab diya tha tum na os ka jawab nahi diya ka 3 kon sa sahaba mulsim hain aur kon sa Kafir.bhag tu tum raha ho main tu Sheer ki tarhan pecha karna wala ho tumhari hiran ki tarhan bhagna wala nahi hon.

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Janab yahi tu in ka bhagna ki chal hoti hai ka itni gustakhi karo ka band kar diya jao aur kah do ka jawab nahi tha tu humian band kar diya.Hazrat mujha admin sa ijjazat Chahiya ka main Ahlebiat ki shan main in gustkhian dekha don phair ya khud hi bhag jain ga. aur oo kahbees mujha bol jo bolna hai mujha Gali da mujha bura bhala bol likin wahan zabn daraz na kar warna teri kitaabon sa tujha zaleel kar don ga.

pehla jawab ya hai ka main na jo dawa kya hai os par dalil aap lao kyon ka aap ko ya sabit karna hai ka Umer naam kyon rakha mujha nahi aur aap ka on 3 sahaba main koi sahabi Umer naam ka hai jas ka naam par ya naam rakh hai.janab main na abhi aap ki kitaab sa hawala nahi diya warna maloom ho ga ka aap Umer bin khatab ka ilawa in sab ko jali Sahabi kahta ho Maazullah ap ki kitaab 150 Jali Ashab mulahza kar lian aur bhi buhut si kitaabian hain jin main ghar maroof sahab ko jali kaha hai.Tu aap tu apna pass sa jawab do ka kyon rakha ya naam . Janab sirf 6 sahaba ko man lina sa aap Sahaba ka manan wala ho gai Chalo in main sa do tu kafir sabit hain ap ki kitaab sa.Maazullah "Huzoor Alihsalam ki wafat ka baad 4 Sahaba ka ilawa sab murtad ho gaye tha."(Ahsan ul Maqal jald 1,pg 145) mera sawal ya hai ka 3 tu Ahlebait ho gai baqi 3 main sa aik kon hain Bilal,Abu zar ya Suleman. mazeed aik hawala"Huzoor Alihsalam ki wafat ka baad 3 sahaba ka ilawa baqi sab murtad ho gai tha."(RozeKafi jald 8,pg 245)chalo Ahlebait ka ilawa sab kafir ho gai.warna jo sawal tum na kya tha mera bhi wohi sawal ho ga ka kya Ahlebait Sahabi nahi hain. kya ya sabit karon ka Ali tumhara yahan katna bara adil hain ka Sheikeen ka musheer ki hasiyat sa kaam karta raha aur on ka ap ka mutbiq muzalim main sath dita raha.aur Huzoor Alihsalam ki mujoodgi main on ka pecha namaz pharta tha.

SubhanAllah kya jawab hai aap ka janab pocha ya gaya tha ka Sahaba sa pehla kas ka naam tha umer batiya ya ja raha hai ka kitna Sahaba ka Naam umer hai tu janab aap ko ilm hona chahiya ka in sab Sahaba ko aap Kafir kahta ho tu sawal tu wahina rah gaya ka Hazrat Ali na ya naam kyon rakha jawab nahi hai tu aain bain sahian kar raha ho.aur baat Hazrat Ali ki ho rahai thi baqi sahaba ki nahi likin ager ya sabit kar don ka in main sa bhi kai asa hain jin ka naam Umer bin khattab ka naam par hi rakha hian tu aap ka kya jawab ho ga.likin aap kaho ga ka ya kitaab humara liya mutber nahi hai. Janab aik baat bato ka aab tak tum na ya jawab nahi diya jo main na tumhain Abu bakr Sadiq hawala sa hadis di thi os ka jawab kaha hia. Islam main sab sa afzal aur aur Allah aur os ka Rasool Alihsalam ka sath sab sa ziyda khara aur akhlas ka sath mamla rakhna walay Khalifa Sadiq aur Khalifa ka Khalifa Farooq hain jasa ka aap bhi khayal karta hain aur janta hain Mujha apni umer ki qasam in dono ka darda islam main albata bara azeem hai on ki maut na islam ko sakht nuqsan kya in par Allah ki rahmat ho aur Allah dono ko behter jaza da.(Sharah Nahjulbalagh az Allamah Matham Albuhrani jald 4,pg 362) aab ya Allamah Matham Al Buhrani tu Sunni alim nahi hai na jawab zaroor dina.Sadiq wa Farooq dono laqab yahan mujood hain.tumhari tu ya hi maut hai ka tum sirf itna man lo ka Abu Bkar Sadiq tha aur Umer farooq tha.

Janab dar gay ka kahin ya sabit na ho jai ka tum gustakheAhlebait ho kyon Hazrat Umer par araha ho.nahi janab Allamah waqdi shia nahi hain likin aap ko ya dekhna tha ka wo Sheikheen sa madad mangta hian ya nahi.Hazrat umer par baat karna hai tu theek hai main aap ko dawat dita hon ka mujha ya batao ka Hazrat Ali aur Imam Hassan na apni aulad ka naam kyon Umer rakha kyon ka koi apna dushman ka naam nahi rakhta aur dosri baat Umer naam on ka ilwa kasi aur buzurg ka nahi hai tu kya Umer sa mutaser ho ker ya naam rakh onhon na

Janab aap ko shikayat hai ka aap sirf do hain tu aap dono ko dawat hai ka mujha sa akela hi muqabla kar lo kio nahi ai ga bach main likin Topic ho ga Shia aur Ahlebait ki Gustakhian bolo manzur baqi sab sirf dekhian ga.tum sirf ya sabit karna ka tum Ahlebait ka gustakh nahi ho. Sheikheen sa madad Tu Rasoolullah Alihsalam na bhi mangi thi jas tarhan ki madad Ali na Sheikheen ki thi.kuch nazara dekhon Tareekh waqdi sa. bolo.

Janab Ibn Qutiba ka bara main mujha ilm nahi hai ka ya kon hain likin ya jo bar bar hawala araha hai Ibn Hudaid ka tu wo mutazali tha tu os ka hawala hum par hujat kyon ho ga.

Aba jahil khushi ka din ko yad rakh kar osa har saal manya jata hain likin gham ko manana ka koi hukum nahi jas din Hazrat Ismail na Qurbani sa nijaat pai os din Eid e Qurban hoti hai aur Allah ka hukum ka mutbiq Essai os din eid manata tha jis din Maida Asman sa aya tha aur Eid e Milad khushi ka din hai na ka gham ka.aur aap ki itla ka liya arz hai ka Yahudi 10 Muharam ko khushi manata tha kyon ka os din onhian Faron sa nijjat mili thi aab mujha bata ka kon sa Nabi Alihsalam ki wafat asa manai gai.Maslan Hazarat Yahya Mazlomana shaheed hoa likin Yahudi ya Essai koi bhi as din ko asa nahi manata.As ka jawab zaroor dina.

Sadiq hona ki aur bhi kai Rawiyat Shia kutub sa. Abu Daud kahta hain Buraida Aslami na mujha batya ka main Rasoolullah Alihsalam sa suna farmaya Jannat 3 Shakhs ki mushtaq hai.itna main Abu Bakr aa gai tu Huzoor alihsalam na farmaya tu Sadiq hai tu Dosra do ka hai jo ghar main tha.(Rijjal Kashi pg 30) Hazrat Ali farmata hian ka hum Peghmber Alihsalam ka sath Jabalehira par tha ka Phar na junbish ki tu Huzoor Alihsalam na farmaya ka thar ja kyon ka tujh par Aik Nabi dosra Sadiq(Abu Bakr)Tesra Shaheed(Ali)beth hain.(Ihtajaj Tabrasi)

Janab tumhain aur tumhari pori Qaum ko challange hai ka tum kah do ka ager Quran kaha tu main man lon ga aur ya bahan nahi banaon ga ka Quran muhrif hai tu hum apna har aqida tumhain sabit kar ka dekha dita hain.pehla tum on Shia ulama par lanat bhejo jo ka Tehreef e Quran ka qail hain aur Imamon sa as ko sabit manta hian.hum kyon ka topic sa hat gaye hian as liya mujha as ka jawab jaldi dina aur kasi bhi topic par baat kar sakt ho one on one.

Janab har jagh shikast hoti hai shaion ko likin ya abar zor sa chekhta hain ka hum jeet gai.Janab aap ko nahi Maloom ka Noha karna sa kya hota hai. aur jahan tak tum na Kala libas ka mutaliq Ahadees pesh ki hain tu hum na kab mana kya Kala pahna ko.Wo tu aap ki kitaabina hai jo Kala ko Jahanumi aur faron ka libas kah rahhi hain aur jo hawala ap na pesh kya osi ka mutabiq aap ka log ya bhi kahta hian ka Kala libas Ahlebait ka dushmano aur banu Ummiyah ka tha tu ap apni kitaab ko hujjat manta ho ya meri kitaabon ko.aur dosri baat hum tu kala ko bura nahi kahta kyon ka Kala tu khanaeKaba ka parda bhi hai. Ab ata hain aap ka hawala ki taraf. Narrated `Abdullah bin 'Ubaidullah bin Abi Mulaika: One of thedaughters of `Uthman died at Mecca. We went to attend herfuneral procession. Ibn `Umar and Ibn `Abbas were alsopresent. I sat in between them (or said, I sat beside one ofthem. Then a man came and sat beside me.) `Abdullah bin `Umarsaid to `Amr bin `Uthman, "Will you not prohibit crying asAllah's Apostle has said, 'The dead person is tortured by thecrying of his relatives.?" Ibn `Abbas said, "`Umar used to sayso." Then he added narrating, "I accompanied `Umar on ajourney from Mecca till we reached Al−Baida. There he saw sometravelers in the shade of a Samura (A kind of forest tree). Hesaid (to me), "Go and see who those travelers are." So I wentand saw that one of them was Suhaib. I told this to `Umar whothen asked me to call him. So I went back to Suhaib and saidto him, "Depart and follow the chief of the faithfulbelievers." Later, when `Umar was stabbed, Suhaib came inweeping and saying, "O my brother, O my friend!" (on this`Umar said to him, "O Suhaib! Are you weeping for me while theProphet said, "The dead person is punished by some of theweeping of his relatives?" Ibn `Abbas added, "When `Umar diedI told all this to Aisha and she said, 'May Allah be mercifulto `Umar. By Allah, Allah's Apostle did not say that abeliever is punished by the weeping of his relatives. But hesaid, Allah increases the punishment of a non−believer becauseof the weeping of his relatives." Aisha further added, "TheQur'an is sufficient for you (to clear up this point) as Allahhas stated: 'No burdened soul will bear another's burden.' "(35.18). Ibn `Abbas then said, "Only Allah makes one laugh or cry." Ibn `Umar did not say anything after that.(Sahih Bukhari Book of Funeral Hadith 1205) mujha ab bato ka Hazrat Umer na sahi kaha tha ya nahi kyon ka Kafir na jo tarbiyat ki hai os ki wajh sa ghar walaon ka rona sa os ka azab barta hain aur humara nazdeek Shia momin nahi hain as liya on ka rona sa bhi on ki mayat ka azab barta hia.

janab aap na aap ka Imam Mehdi bhi tu kasi Mansoos ko imam banay baghir ghar main chala gai Tu kya ghar main sa wo imam karta hian jab wo zahir hai nahi hain tu as imamm kya hadiyat kara ga.Shiaon main bhi Imam Masoom as liya hota hia ka os ka baat par amal kya jai kya tumhara imam tumhain kuch bata raha hain jas par tum amal karta ho tu duniya tu Imam ka baghir hi hai. "Zahir hoa Allah par Abu Jafar ka baad Abu Mohmeed ka baray main wo kuch jo as sa pehla munkashif nahi tha jasa ka zahir hoa Khuda ka liya Mosa ka bara main Ismail ka baad wo kuch jas sa os ka haal munkashif ho gaya.(Usool kafi jald1,pg 328) janab ya matlab tha ka jas Khuda ko yahi nahi pata ka Imam kas ko baniya jai aur wo Imam ko mansoos karna ka baad apna irada badal lita ho tu(Maazullah).Asa Mansoos hona ka kya faida aur on shiaon na sahi tu kaha ka Imam nahi hai kya pata Allah na aap ko imamat sa kharij kar diya ho. Tum log tu Hazrat Imam Hussain ka alfaz ko bhi nahi man raha ka onhon na bhi yahi kaha tha ka Khat likhna wala humara shia tha.Tu kya Sab Kuch jana wala Imam ko yahi nahi pata ka os ka shia kon hian.Tumhari kas baat ka jawab tumhain chahya.koi asi baat hi nahi hai jo tumhain jawab diya jai.

Janab aap na kya jhoot bolna ki factory lagai hoi hai chalo khair yahan bhi main aap ko batata choalon ka Kahna wala wahan kon hai lazmi hain ka ya akhri baatian Abu Bakr ki hain likin janab kya ya Akhri alfaz on ka hain tu as ka saboot ya hai ka pehli rawiyat main likha hai ka onhon na apna aap sa kaha likin yahan Huzoor Alihsalam sa baat ho rahi hai Fadmara ka Tarjuma bhi aap hi kar dian tak aap ka pool khol jai. aur wo hadees jo main na baad main pesh ki os ka aap na kya kya. aur as baat ka koi jawab nahi aya ka warasat ki wo ahadees ghalat hain ya sahi.

Imam jafar Sadiq na bhi yahi kaha hai ka Anbiyah ka waris koi nahi hota ap ka alim na dandi mari hai tarjuma main khud dekh lo (As Shafi Jald Awal pg 71) http://shiamultimedia.com/books/urdu/Usool%20e%20Kafi%20-%20Volume%20I.pdf yahan ja ker khud dekh lo ka Arabi Alfaz kuch hain aur tarjuma kuch kya gaya hai. imam jafar as kitaab ka pg 75 par bhi yahi rawiyat kar raha hian likin Tarjuma ya kya ja raha hai ka Ummat ko waris nahi banata Dirham wo dinar ka likin bewaqofi nahi hai ka ya tu kasi ka taswur bhi nahi ho sakta ka koi kasi ka Waris ho ga baghir os ka nasb ka. aur jahan tak Hazrat Fatima ka naraz hona ka sawal hai tu jab Imam Jafar na jab tashee kar di tu Ghalti kas ki.kya aap ka mutabiq Hazrat Fatima na Huzoor Alihsalam ki hadees manna ka inker kar diya ya Imam Jafar na jhoot bola Maazullah. Hazrat Abu Bakr na jab ya farmya:main Allah ko gawah bana kar ahad karta hon ka fadak ka mamla main wahi kuch karon ga jas Tarahan Rasool Alihsalam karta tha.ya sun kar Syeda Razi ho gain aur as baat par amal pera rahna ka pukhta irda kar liya.(SharaheNahjul balagha jald 5,pg 107)Shia Alim Kamaluddin muthas albuhrani ki likhi hoa hai. aur bhi hawal as zaman main hian wo bhi pesh karon ga.

hahahahahah ap na mera kaam aur asan kar diya kyon ka aap na jin Alfazon ka Tarjuma kya hai kya wo Hadees ka alfaz hain ya Quran ka tu aap khud dekh lain ka as ko Mufasir na wazhat ka liya bracket main naqal kya hai jas sa ya pata chalta hai ka alfaz hadees nahi hai aur Quran main bhi ya alfaz nahi hain aur aap ka Maqbool sahab na tu Apna tarjuma main atni dandi mari hai ka jahan Huzoor Alihsalam na farmya ka Allah hum dona ka sath hai ka tarjuma Rasool aur Ali kya hai tu Ghaib ka liya Quran ka ayat kasa ho sakti hai Sawal tu buhut hian aur Sadiq ka baray main aur kuch janan hai tu wo bhi batata hon والذي جاء بالصدق وصدَّق به } اختلف في المعني به فقيل الذي جاء بالصدق محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم جاء بالقرآن وصدَّق به المؤمنون فهو حجتهم في الدنيا والآخرة عن ابن زيد وقتادة ومقاتل واحتجُّوا بقوله { أولئك هم المتقون }. وقيل: الذي جاء بالصدق وهو القرآن جبرائيل (ع) وصدَّق به محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم تلقّاه بالقبول عن السدي. وقيل: الذي جاء بالصدق وهو قول لا اله إلا الله هو محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم وصدَّق به هو أيضاً وبلَّغه إلى الخلق عن ابن عباس. وقال: ولو كان المصدّق به غيره لقال والذي صدَّق به وهذا أقوى الأقوال. وقيل: الذي جاء بالصدق رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وصدَّق به أبو بكر عن أبي العالية والكلبي. وقيل: الذي جاء بالصدق الأنبياء وصدَّق به أتباعهم عن عطاء والربيع وعلى هذا فيكون http://altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=4&tTafsirNo=3&tSoraNo=39&tAyahNo=33&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=1 Imam jafar sa kasi na sawal kya ka Talwar ko chandi sa mursa karna Jaiz hai? Aap na farmaya,jaiz hai.As liya ka Hazrat Abu Bakr Sadiq na apni talwar ko chandi sa mursa kya hoa tha. Sawla karna wala na heran ho kar pocha ka kya ap bhi Abu Bakr ko Sadiq kahta hia? Imam Jafar na farmya ka haan aur 3 bar apni jagha sa uth kar farmaya:wo Sadiq hain,wo Sadiq hain,wo Sadiq hain. aur jo inhian Sadiq na kaha Allah asa duniya wa akhrat main jhoota kara yani as ka deen wa imaan ka koi itber nahi hia.(Kashfulghuma pg 220)

O khabees Shia tu Sag e madina ko kah raha hai ka wo Roz ka ahtram karian tum on ka ahtram karta ho jo wahan madfun hain? Tum kon sa amal main hero ho abay jo amal Aima na tumhian mana kya wohi karta ho tum bolo sabit karon.Jahan tak ka Imam abu Hanifa ka gharana ki baat hai tu wo Ali hi ka Ashab main sa tha Thabit(Imam Azam ka walid)jabka wo chota tha Hazrat Ali ki bargh main aye tu Aap na Thabit ka liya aur in ki Aulad ka liya dua ki.(Tareekh Baghdad 327/13) Thabit bin Zuta, a trader from Kabul, part of Khorasan in Persia (the capital of modern day Afghanistan), was 40 years old at the time of Abu Hanifa's birth. ya bhi aik hawala hai ka on ka walid Kufa main nahi rahta tha Balky wo Kubal main tajarat karta tha aur kuch.Janab hum na ya nahi kaha ka Tamam log kufi shia tha balky ya kaha hai ka aksariat Shiaon ki thi.Acha buhut acha hawal diya hai ap na ka jo Abu Hanifa sa sawal kara ga wo Sunni ho ga tu aap ka ghar sa aik hawala pesh kar raha hon.aap ki kitaabon main likh hai ka aap ka Imam Jafar Sadiq bhi Abu Hanifa sa sawal karna ka kahta tha bad main kah dita tha as ka ulat karo balky Hazrat Ali na bhi yahi kah tha ka Sunni Alim sa fatwa Maloom karo aur phari os ka ulat karo yahi humara mazhab hai tu as main kya isthala hoa ka wo shia tha. Janab yani aap na apni har tasleem kar li ka Hazrat Ali apna aap ko 4th khalifa manta tha.Janab jang main Tamashia kasa ho sakta hian kyon ka on 72 main kon kon tha ya bhi zara batao aur wahan Kitna Log Abu Bakr umer aur Uthman naam ka tha Dono fariqon main batana mera khayal hai ka aap ko Umer ibn Saad ka ilwa koi aur in naam ko nahi mila ga likin Hussain ka lashker main is naam ka buhut log milain ga Tasdeek apni kitaabon sa kar lo.hum na Shimr ko kab Radi Allah kaha kya hawala dekho do Tabeen ka onhon na kas bura tariqa ka Shimr ko jharka hai. Ibn ziyad ka hawala sa arz ya hia ka ager os ka baap Hazrat Ali ka governer tha tu Yaqeenan ibn Ziyad na bhi Hazrat Ali ka suhbatpai ho gi tu os par as suhbat kar asr kyon nahi hoa