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Alahzrat ALLAH ko Galay detay hoye
Ya Mohammadah replied to hanafimuslim's topic in فتنہ وہابی دیوبندی
Deobandi Islamil Dehlwi : Jo Bandy ki Qudrat hai wo Allah ki Qudrat me bhi...warna bandy ki taqat Allah se barh jayegi... Deobandi Mehmoodul Hasan : Allah ke liye Jumla Qabahat Mumkin -
ji humy aitraaf hai ki humari yahi halat hai ki hum Allah or usky pyare rasool ki shan me adna si towheen bardasht nahin kar sakty...ye behooda alfaaz "......ko jooty maro" aapki forum par allow kiye jaty hongy yahan nahin...apko topic banaty waqt itni bhi tameez nahin ki kahin aap khud hi to Allah ki shan me Gustakhi ke murtakib nahin ho rahy...Mene tamheed e imaan ke pages upload kar diye hain Deobandis ki zurriyat me dum hon to sabit karein ki ye ibarat gustakhana hai or iska matlab wahi nikata hai jo aap manwana chahty hain...or puttar kehny par apko bura lag gaya...jabki is lafz me aisi koi tanqeed ya gali nahin thi...ye to apki nisbat bayan ki gayi Deoband se phir bhi apko bura laga to kya humy apny mabood ke liye apki type ki hui bakwaas manzoor ho sakti thi? is tarah apka ye ilzaam bhi apky maslak ki tarah Jhoota sabit hua....
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Tamheed e Imaan ke safhaat hazir hai..ab zara koi Deobandi puttar ismy wo ibarat dhoond kar batlayein jiska bohtaan aap Ala Hazrat par laga rahy thy...jis ki wajah se mene is topic ke title me se Allah ka naam hata kar "Deobandis ko jooty maro" kar diya...
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haan haan Janab!! kyu naihn? aapko nahin maloom? kya baat hai aapky firqy ki aapka mujtahid or aaphi ko iski khabar naihn na sirf kutta hi nahin balki sanp, khinzeer, Jangli gadha sab halal hain...or aapny to sirf pak or napaak poocha tha wo sahab to isy halaal keh fry karky aapko khilany ki firaaq me hain...kahin mu me paani to nahin bhar aaya apky? ye swaaal aap apny kaazi showkani ya waheeduz zama se karty to ghar me iska jawab mojood tha par kya karein...4get it... Janab aap wahi purana raag alap rahy hain jo apky senior Mardood hony se pehly gala phar phar kar chillaty rahy or ab gadhy ke sir se seeng ki tarah ghayab hain...unki jamat me ek or sahi..aap pehly forum ke topics achchi tarah se parh lein usky baad apni ungli ko takleef diya karein. ALLAH Hidayat de agar Rasool ke wasily se mangy to.. Sag e Madina
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Allah ke bando se Tawassul Huzur se sabit 2 hadees hazir hain Ummed hain inky Munkir ho jayengy...ya Muhaddis ke khilaaf jakar pehly to isy mozu kahengy jab mozu ka meaning batlaya jayega to kahengy hana haan mozu nahin zaeef hai...phir bhi apky paas koi daleel nahin isky radd ki. Qabro par chiragha karny se mana kiya ho kisi hadees mein to batayein...roz e rasool par kitni chiraagh roshan hain kya apko nazar nahin aaty? Pehly ye sawaal wahabis se poochien...jo jawab wo dengy wahi humara bhi.. Huzur ki amad par Ahle Madina ne shehar bhar me juloos nikala or poora madina naro se goonj utha ya mohammad ya rasool Allah...aapny unhy mana na farmaya....Jab Huzur ne apni tashreef awri par Juloos nikalny ko na pasand na kiya to aap kon hoty hain? Agar huzur hoty to 4 imamo ke ijtihad ki zaroorat hi na hoti..jaisa apni ankhon se huzur ko namaz ada karty dekhty jaisa huzur bataty wasiy hi namaz or deegar mamlaat karty... iska jawab sawaal no.4 ke jawab me upar diya ja chuka.. iska jawab bhi tumhy no.1 ke jawab me sahih hadees se diya ja chuka. gg hum yahan isi liye to hain ki aap zindagi bhar aitraaz karty rahy or hum jawab dete rahy..
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Alahazrat per wahi aati thi kia?
Ya Mohammadah replied to MOUWAHID's topic in اہلسنت پر اعتراضات کے جوابات
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Munafiq Tariq Jameel aik Gustakh Molvi
Ya Mohammadah replied to ExposingNifaq's topic in فتنہ وہابی دیوبندی
Chaliye ye bhi ghanimat hai ki aapko ye tasleem ki ye lafz ghalat hain... Hum Defend kyu karty? awwal to Allah ka bara ehsaan hai hum AhleSunnat barelwis par ki humary ulema is tarah ki Jahalat se paak hain... or bilfarz aisa kabhi hota bhi to kabhi bhi Deobandi awam ki manind apny ulemao ki gustakhana ibarton ki ghalat salat tawleein karky unky kufr par parda nahin dalty...balki darul ifta se fatwa lete...aap ke liye aapka darul ifta muntazir hai..fatwa le aayein.. par yaad rahy tariq jameel sahab ka naam liye baghir fatwa mangiyega warna aap khud hi samajhdaar hain... pehly janab aap lekar to aayein pehly hi se aisa hoga waisa hoga jaisy ki apny bohot saboot de diye is forum par jo delete kar diye gaye siwaye apki be sir pair ki baton ke....or rahi baat humary maslak ki kutub se ref dene ki to usky liye hm tyyar hain par is thread me nahin usky liye aap alehda topic create kar sakty hain kisny apko roka hai...par usse pehly thori zehmat uthyein or is kufriya lafzo se Molana Tariq Jameel sahab ki jaan churayein.. oh kya kehny kya baat kahin aapny ? kis deeda dileri se seena taan ke aapny zuban utha kar talu se maari hai...mene pehly hi arz kiya tha jab aapky bary baro ko Allah ki bargah me lafzo ke istemaal ki tameez nahin to aap se me kya ummed kar sakta hu...wese is par koi daleel hai ki "ALLAh se jessy chahye mango" matlab ki jo dil me aaye bakty jao chahy Allah ki shan me kitni hi gustaki ho jaye? or ye muhawry kahawatein kon se kissy kahaniyo nawilon se parh kar inko Allah ki shan ke liye jaayz sabit karna chahty hain...? waisy is ka saboot bhi Quran or Hadees se dena ap par udhar... ek article ka chota sa para hazir hai shayad mufeed ho apky liye. ab hum kya kahy...? is bary me to apky Hakeemul ummat ka fatwa zyada kargar sabit hoga aapky liye ki sehat e amaal ke saath fasad aqaid Jama ho sakty hain (for instance Aapky Muballiqgh) or Fasad e Amaal ke saath seaht Aqaid. Apky Thanwi sahab khud tasleem karty hain ki ye sab mehnat chalat phirat deen ki tabligh kuch nahin jab taki aqaid sehatmand na hon...Jaisa ki Molwi Majiddariybaadi Sahab or Molvi Ameen Ehsan sahab ki beshumar deeni khidmaat or taqwy parhezgaari ko thenga dikhaty huey unky aqaid ki bina par unko Kaifr qaraar diya....na sirf unko balki unky jalso me shirkat kary wo bhi mulhid or be deen hain...kuch chora hi nahin Hakeem sahab ne humary kehny ke liye doodh ka doodh or paani ka paani kar diya...kya farmaty hain peer sahab ab samajh aaya awwal hain aqaid..amaal to unhi ke maqbool jinky aqaid durust warna amaal dekhy bhi na jayengy... haan sahi sabit karna to siddiq ka kaam hai ye sab aap logo ki Qismat me kahan.. Me Allah ki Qasam kha kar kehta hu ki me Daata darbaar nahin gaya bcz i am from india not pak.. or ye kehna ki jo wahan koi jahalat kary uski zimmedari humari...to phir itni mehnat karny ki zaroorat kya hai aap aisy hi ilzaam laga dein..kya is se sabit ho jayega ki aapka ilzaam sahi hai? is bohtaan se sachcho ko kya fark parega..? Awwal to apko ye ilm hona chahiye ki koi bhi firqa usky ulemao se jana/pehchana/parkha jatah hai na ki awaam se...Hujjat awaam nahin balki Ulema hoty hain...jis ko aap khud bhi aitraaf kar chuky hain neechy aany waly quoted text mein jahan aapny ye chaha ki humary ulemao se ye bulwa dein...abt mazar...etc etc...Dusri baat ki Ulema Hujjat hoty hain tabhi to humny apki aalim Muballigh sahab ke lafzo par aitraaz kiya hai na ki kisi bhi airy ghairy Tablighi Muballigh par..warna aisy kai jahil aapko Tablighi jamat/ Deobandi maktabe e firk rakhny waly mil jayengy jo ghair sharai umoor me mullawwiz hongy to kya un sabky afaal ki zimmedari me Tablighi Jamat ki taleem me gina sakta hu? Nahin na...? to phir humary saath ye zulm kyu? ji ji bilkul aapki is hasrat ko humary imaam ne kai sal pehly hi pura farma diya hai... -
kya hanfi fiqa quran wa sunnat key muwafiq hai
Ya Mohammadah replied to Qazi's topic in مناظرہ اور ردِ بدمذہب
Tumhy jiska dar tha uska ulat hi hua tumny behurmati karwai to nahin par kar zaroor di..badbakhti ne tumhy Allah ke Rasool ki shan me NaZeba Kalemat na danista tor par Likh mary....Sharm or Taouba dono karein. -
Munafiq Tariq Jameel aik Gustakh Molvi
Ya Mohammadah replied to ExposingNifaq's topic in فتنہ وہابی دیوبندی
Ji Janab mene bary hi mohazzibana andaz me zabt karky hi aap logo ko jawab diya tha dekhiye kitny adab ke sath aapky Muballigh sahab ka naam likha hai kya apko ye bhi gher Moazzab lagta hai..? Hindu ki misal achchi di ya buri par aap is par bhi kuch himmat karky jawab ata karein ki wo misal mene kis wajah se di? kya mene bohtaan tarashi ki? mene to aapko may-saboot ke dalail diye or apky Hamdard khwaja sahab kehty hain ki "inky paas jawab nahin hota".. Ab aap barahy karam khud hi chk kar sakty hain ki jawab se farari kon ikhtiyar kar raha hai...? Aap ko khayal hona chahiye ki mene jo Aitraaz apky aalim sahab ke lafzo par uthyae hain kya wo beja or mardood hain? kya men Ghalat bayani kar raha hu? kya mene kuch apni marzi se add kar diya hai? Kya apky yahan apny Mabood ke liye itni hi ehtiyaat rakhi jaati hai? kya usy ek aam insaan par Qayas kiya jata hai jo aisy aisy Gustkhana lafzo me lapet kar dua mangi jati hai? kya kisi aalim e deen se ye tawaqqo ki ja sakti hai ki wo Allah ki shan me itni kotahi or beehtiyaati se kaam le sakta hai? jab Aalim e Deen sahab itni ilmi sadaqat rakahty hain to Muttabeh ka haal kya hoga? Daata darbar ka aapny zikr kiya to is Bohtaan par Daleel laiye to is par guftgu ki jaye bila saboot sary aitraaz mardood...ye achcha tareeqa hai peer sahib ka ki hum saboot ke saath baat karein to janab ke kaan par ju na rengy foran ussy faraar ho jaty hain or khud bila saboot lambi lambi....... -
Munafiq Tariq Jameel aik Gustakh Molvi
Ya Mohammadah replied to ExposingNifaq's topic in فتنہ وہابی دیوبندی
uff ab ye bhi batan parega ki kahan khata/'gustakhi/kufr sadir hua kher ye bhi sahi (Jab Alim sahab ka ye alam tha to ap se to koi ummed hi nahin kher..) to note book pencil lekar note karty jaiye point wise... Tariq jameel sahab ki duao me Gustakhi:- "Allah tujhy maloom hai ki ye log tujhy bulany aaye hain....." kyu Raiwandis ko shak hai ki Allah khabeer or Aleem hai? shayad waqai shak ho kyu ki tumhary mufassir ki tafseer ke mutabiq Allah ko bando ke karny ke baad ilm hota hai pehly se nahin.....Tafseer Balagatul Hairaan.or yahan to bandy bulany aa chuky tab bhi yahi sawal kiya ja raha hai Allah ko apny saath le kar chalny ko keh rahy hain...lagta hai Raiwandis Allah ki zaat ko apny jism ki tarah manty hain jo chalta phirta hai ya phir usko bula kar apny saath chalaya phiraya ja sakta hai (MazAllah) Allah ki Goud me bethny ki khwahish zahir kar rahy hain Tariq Jameel Sahab...kya in janab ko itni Toufeeq nahin ki Allah ki shan me aisy lafz gustakhi amez hain balki sareeh kufr hain jis se Allah ke liye jism sabit hota hai... Allah ko nida karty huey kehty hain aaja aaajana....kya Allah makhlooq ki manind hai jo kahin hota hai kahi nahin ya kahin aata jata ho...? kya ye sab kalimaat ak jahil sunkar Allah ki zaat ke liye ghalat tasvvur nahin le sakta jaisy hindu apny maboodo ke liye rakhty hain...usky haath pair sir or poora jism manty hain (Just like Wahabi's Mujassima of Allah) kya ye Imaan hai? kya Aalim aisy hoty hain jinko ye shaoor nahin ki Allah ki shan ke layaq konsy lafz hain konsy nahin? Jhooti Touba karky qubool hony ki ummed rakhna Humary yahan to raij nahin (ye biddat nai pata chali apki jamaat ki. rahi nato me gany aa jany ki baat to zara iski wazahat kar dein ki kya bohtaan lagana chahty hain...i didn't get you. -
Munafiq Tariq Jameel aik Gustakh Molvi
Ya Mohammadah replied to ExposingNifaq's topic in فتنہ وہابی دیوبندی
Bhai for sharing Tarilq Jameel's Munafiqat... Allah ki Shan me Mazeed Gustakhiya Tariq Jameel ki Duao mein... Hum (Raiwandi) ay Allah kya tujhy pata hai tujhy bulany aaye hain...Allah aaja..tu humary sath Chal...Allah Humy ek dafa Pyar se dekh le...Allah humy apni Gaoud le le...Aaja... Lateefa :- or iqraar me kehta hai ki humy pehly touba ki hai...Shayad Jhoot moot ki...ki hai... tu isy hi qubool kar le... (Jhooti Tauba kya raiwandis ki khud saktha Shariyat me Qubool hoti hain?) Tariq_Jameel_ki_Kufriya_Kalemat_par_Mushtamil_Dua.rm -
shirk ki tareef karein...Quran (Nas e qataye) se or Hadees (sahih sareeh Marfooh) se...Phir kuch baat karny ka faida bhi ho? Aaap hi Jaisy Wahabiyo ne NE Tassub me akar Dulhy ka Sehra pehnny tak ko shirk keh mara hai...to shirk kisy kehty hain Quran or hadees (may moatbir mufassir and muhaddis ke) na ki apni khayanato ke hashiye or zinda murda door qareeb matehtul asbaas mafoqul asbaab waghera waghera ki qaid laga ky...(ye qaid lagany ki biddat khwarij ki hi sunnat hai) 1. to janab pehly shirk ki tareef from Quran 2. phir janab shirk ki tareef from sareeh Sahih Marfoo Hadees se 3. Along with Moatbir Mufassir & Muhaddis ki sharah ...(ur khayanti hashiye will not do) Enjoy IM
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Hindus r Not KAFIR-DEOBAND STAND
Ya Mohammadah replied to ExposingNifaq's topic in فتنہ وہابی دیوبندی
nice sharing....Jab inka Bara Deo-bandi (Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi) kehty kehty mar kar mitti me mil gaya ki ram krishan achchy aadmi thy...guru nanak Musalman thy...to in sahab ke chelo ka Hinduo ko kafir na kehna koi baeed nahin ye to inky akabir ki sunnat par amal kar rahy hain... -
Saudi Ulemao ne Tum Deobandis Tablighis ko Mushrik Kabar Parast Biddati Nari Gumrah Kam Ilm Kam Aql Jahil or na jany kin kin Alqaab or Adaab se Nawaaza hai...par Manna parega Namak Halaali Isy kehty hain ki chahy wo lakh aapko jooty ki nok par rakhy (in fatwo ko parho to pata chaly ki nok se bhi Mehroom) bawajood isky Majaal hai apny Wahabi Aaqaao ke liye apky akabir/ aap se ek Tez Lafz bhi nikal jaye Fatwas_of_Saudi_Ulemas_Tablighi_Jamat_Gumrah_Biddati_Jahilo_ka_Nari_Firqa_hai.doc ye line aap Tablighis par bilkul fit bethti hai...ki Hum thy Jinky sahahry wo huey na humary.....
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What is the Ruling on the 40 days and 4 months to the different part of world to call Muslim brothers towards duties of Islam “Jamaa’at al-Tableegh” is one of the groups that are working for Islam. Their efforts in calling people to Allaah (Da'wah) cannot be denied. But like many other groups they make some mistakes, and some points should be noted concerning them. These points may be summed up as follows, noting that these mistakes may vary within this group, depending on the environment and society in which they find themselves. 1 – Not adopting the ‘aqeedah of Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jamaa'ah. This is clearly seen from the variations in the ‘aqeedah of some of their members and even of some of their leaders. 2 – Their not paying attention to shar’i knowledge. 3 – Their misinterpretation of some Qur'ânic verses in a manner that was not intended by Allaah. For example they interpret the verses on jihad as referring to “going out for Da'wah”. The verses which mentioned the word khurooj (going out) etc. are interpreted by them as meaning going out for Da'wah. 4 – They make their system of going out for Da'wah an act of worship. So they started to misquote the Qur'ân to support their system which specifies certain numbers of days and months. This system, which they think is based on evidence from Qur'ân, is widespread among them in all countries and environments. 5 – They do some things that go against sharee’ah, such as appointing one of them to make du’aa’ for them whilst the group goes out for Da'wah, and they think that their success or failure depends on whether or not this man was sincere and his du’aa’ accepted. 6 – Da’eef (weak) and Mawdoo’ (fabricated) ahaadeeth are widespread among them, and this is not befitting for those who aim to call people to Allaah. 7 – They do not speak of munkaraat (evil things), thinking that enjoining what is good is sufficient. Hence we find that they do not speak about evils that are widespread among the people, even though the slogan of this ummah – which they continually repeat – is: “Let there arise out of you a group of people inviting to all that is good (Islam), enjoining Al-Ma‘roof (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do) and forbidding Al-Munkar (polytheism and disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden). And it is they who are the successful” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:104 – interpretation of the meaning] The successful are those who enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, not just those who do only one of the two. 8 – Some of them fall into self-admiration and arrogance, which leads them to look down on others, and even to look down on the scholars and describe them as inactive and sleeping, or to show off. So you find them talking about how they went out and travelled, and they saw such and such, which leads to unfavorable results, as we have mentioned. 9 – They regard going out for Da'wah as better than many acts of worship such as jihad and seeking knowledge, even though those things are obligatory duties, or may be obligatory for some people but not others. 10 – Some of them audaciously issue fatwas, and discuss tafseer and hadeeth. That is because they allow each one of them to address the people and explain to them. This leads to them speak audaciously on matters of sharee’ah. So the inevitably speak of the meaning of a ruling, hadeeth or verse when they have not read anything about it, or listened to any of the scholars. And some of them are new Muslims or have only recently come back to Islam. 11- Some of them are negligent with regard to the rights of their children and wives. Hence the scholars do not allow people to go out with them, except for those who want to help them and correct the mistakes that they have fallen into. We should not keep the people away from them altogether, rather we must try to correct their mistakes and advise them so that their efforts will continue and they will be correct according to the Qur'ân and Sunnah. There follows the fatwas of some of the scholars concerning Jamaa’at al-Tableegh: 1 – Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz said: Jamaa’at al-Tableegh do not have proper understanding of the issues of ‘aqeedah, so it is not permissible to go out with them, except for one who has knowledge and understanding of the correct ‘aqeedah of Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jamaa'ah, so that he can guide them and advise them, and cooperate with them in doing good, because they are very active, but they need more knowledge and someone who can guide them of those who have knowledge of Tawheed and the Sunnah. May Allaah bless us all with proper understanding of Islam and make us steadfast in adhering to it. [Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 8/331] 2 – Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan said: Going out for the sake of Allaah does not refer to the kind of going out that they mean nowadays. Going out for the sake of Allaah means going out to fight. What they call going out nowadays is a bid’ah (innovation) that was not narrated from the salaf. Going out to call people to Allaah cannot be limited to a certain number of days, rather one should call people to Allaah according to one's abilities, without limiting that to a group or to forty days or more or less than that. Similarly the daa’iyah must have knowledge. It is not permissible for a person to call people to Allaah when he is ignorant. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Say (O Muhammad): This is my way; I invite unto Allaah (i.e. to the Oneness of Allaah — Islamic Monotheism) with sure knowledge” [Yoosuf 12:108] i.e., with knowledge, because the caller must know that to which he calls people, what is obligatory, mustahabb, haraam and makrooh. He has to know what shirk, sin, kufr, immorality and disobedience are; he has to know the degrees of denouncing evil and how to do it. The kind of going out that distracts people from seeking knowledge is wrong, because seeking knowledge is an obligation, and it can only be achieved by learning, not by inspiration. This is one of the misguided Sufi myths, because action without knowledge is misguidance, and hoping to acquire knowledge without learning is an illusion. [From Thalaath Mihaadaraat fi’l-‘Ilm wa’l-Da’wah] Shaykh, Muhammed Ibn Ibraaheem Aal-ash-Shaykh in warning against the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh From Muhammed Ibn Ibraaheem to his excellency Prince Khaalid Ibn Sa’ood, leader of the Royal Court, as-Salaam ‘Alaykum wa-Rahmatullaahe wa-Barakaatuhu, to proceed: I received the noble correspondence of your excellency (No.36/4/5-D on 21/1/1382 A.H) and that which it contains of the request directed to his excellency, the king, from Muhammed Ibn ‘Abdul-Haamid al-Qaadiree, Shaah Ahmad Nooraanee, ‘Abdus-Salaam al-Qaadiree and Sa’ood Ahmad Dahlawee regarding their request for assistance in the project of their organisation which they have named (Kulliyyatud-Daw’ah wat-Tableegh al-Islaamiyyah) - and also the pamphlets that have been enclosed with their request. I inform your excellency that there is no good in this organisation for certainly it is an organisation of innovation and falsehood which I have discovered by reading their pamphlets which were attached to their requests. We found it to comprise of falsehood, innovation and the inviting to the worshipping of graves and shirk. Quite simply, something which (we) cannot remain quiet about. Therefore, we shall (inshaa-Allaah) put forward a refutation revealing their misguidance and falsehood. We ask Allaah to assist his religion and make high His Word, was-Salaam ‘Alaykum wa-Rahmatullaahe wa-Barakaatuhu [s-M-405 on 29/1/1382 A.H]. Shaykh Muhammed Naasiruddeen al-Albaanee regarding the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh He (rahima-hullaah) was asked: "What is your opinion concerning the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh? Is it permissible for a student of knowledge or other than him to go out with them under the guise of inviting to (the path of) Allaah?" So he responded: The Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh does not uphold the manhaj of the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger and that which our Salaf as-Saalih were upon. And if the situation was such, then it is not permissible to go out with them because it defies our manhaj in calling to the manhaj of the Salaf as-Saalih. So in the path of inviting to Allaah, then an ‘aalim (one who is knowledgeable) can go out with them but as for those (ignorant – without knowledge) who go out with them, then it is obligatory upon them to remain in their countries and (study Islaam) seek knowledge in their masaajid until there graduates from amongst them people of knowledge who hold study circles inviting to the path of Allaah. As long as the situation is like that, it is upon the student of knowledge to invite these people (those from Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh) to study the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah and invite people to it. And the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh, with respect to da’wah to the Book and the Sunnah, do not intend by it a starting point, rather they consider that to be a divided call (da’wah)/approach; And because of this, they most resemble the Jamaa’ah of al-Ikhwaan al-Muslimeen. They say their da’wah is based upon the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah, however this is mere idle talk for certainly they have no ‘aqeedah upon which they are united (which unites them) – so you find some are Maatureedee, others are Ash’aree, whilst others are Soofee and even some who have no madhhab (affiliation to any particular ideology). This is because their da’wah is built upon amassing (the people), then gathering together and culturising/instructing them, and in reality they do not really have any culture. More than half a century has passed and there has not appeared from amongst them a scholar. As for us, then we say instruct them, then gather together, such that the gathering together is based upon a foundation in which there is no doubt. So the da’wah of the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh is that of the Soofiyyah, they call to good manners, as for correcting the differing ‘aqeedah of the group, then they do not exert themselves one iota. This is because they believe this will cause differences (and splitting apart). It came to pass that a brother, Sa’d al-Husayn had much correspondence with the leader of the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh in India or Pakistan and it became clear from that they acknowledge (belief in) intercession and seeking help (from other than Allaah) and many other such things. And they require their people (members) to make bay’ah (oath of allegiance) based upon four issues: amongst them the Naqshbandiyyah methodology. So it is upon every tableeghee (one who ascribes to the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh) to make bay’ah of these fundamentals (issues). A questioner may ask: Indeed this group has corrected its faults (returned to Allaah) as a result of the efforts of many individuals and quite possibly many non-Muslims have accepted Islaam at their hands. Is this not sufficient (proof) for the permissibility of going out with them and participating in that which they call to? So we say: Indeed we know these words and hear them a lot and know them to emanate from the Soofiyyah! For example, there is a Shaykh whose ‘aqeedah is incorrect and does not know anything about the Sunnah. Instead they deceitfully take from the wealth of the people, so together with this, many open sinners seek forgiveness from them! So every group which invites to good, then it is imperative they should be in adherence (to the Qur'ân and the Sunnah), and (this) our approach is pure, so what are they (others) calling to? Are they calling to adherence to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger and the ;aqeedah of the Salaf as-Saalih, abandoning blind following of the madhhabs to such an extent that they adhere to the Sunnah over and above their madhhab!? So the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh do not have a knowledge-based (manhaj), rather, their manhaj is according to the place where they are to be found, so they change their "colours" to suit themselves. [al-Fataawa al-Imaaraatiyyah of al-Albaanee]. Shaykh, ‘Abdur-Razzaaq ‘Afeefee regarding the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh The Shaykh was asked regarding going out with the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh to remind the people of the Greatness of Allaah. So the Shaykh said: That which is the case, is that they are innovators and those who adhere to the manhaj of the Qadariyyah and other than them and their going out is not (regarded as) in the Path of Allaah, rather it is in the path of Illiyaas. They do not invite to the Book (of Allaah) [There book is Fazail-e-Aamaal and Bahest-e-Zewar] and nor the Sunnah, rather they invite to Illiyaas, their Shaykh in Bangladesh. [one of their Shaikh] As for going out with them with the intention to invite to the path of Allaah, then that is (regarded as) going out in the path of Allaah but not that which is going out with the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh. And I know of the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh from a long time and they are innovators wherever they may be; Egypt, Israel, America, Saudi Arabia and all of them attach themselves to their Shaykh Illiyaas. [Fataawa wa Rasaa.il Samaahhtu ‘Abdur-Razzaaq ‘Afeefee, Volume 1, Page 174]. And Allaah knows best. Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 8/331 Al-Fataawa al-Imaaraatiyyah of al-Albaanee Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan, Thalaath Mihaadaraat fi’l-‘Ilm wa’l-Da’wah Fataawa wa Rasaa.il Samaahhtu ‘Abdur-Razzaaq ‘Afeefee, Volume 1, Page 174
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Fataawa of the Noble Shaykh Muhammed Naasir-ud-Deen al-Albaanee regarding the Jamaa’ahat-Tableegh Al-Fataawa al-Imaaraatiyyah of al-Albaanee He (Rahimahullaah) was asked: "What is your opinion concerning the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh? Is it permissible for a student of knowledge or other than him to go out with them under the guise of inviting to (the path of) Allaah?" So he responded: The Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh does not uphold the manhaj of the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger and that which our Salaf as-Saalih were upon. And if the situation was such, then it is not permissible to go out with them because it defies our manhaj in calling to the manhaj of the Salaf as-Saalih. So in the path of inviting to Allaah, then an ‘aalim (one who is knowledgeable) can go out with them but as for those (ignorant – without knowledge) who go out with them, then it is obligatory upon them to remain in their countries and (study Islaam) seek knowledge in their masaajid until there graduates from amongst them people of knowledge who hold study circles inviting to the path of Allaah. As long as the situation is like that, it is upon the student of knowledge to invite these people (those from Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh) to study the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah and invite people to it. And the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh, with respect to da’wah to the Book and the Sunnah, do not intend by it a starting point, rather they consider that to be a divided call (Da'wah)/approach; And because of this, they most resemble the Jamaa’ah of al-Ikhwaan al-Muslimeen. They say their Da'wah is based upon the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah, however this is mere idle talk for certainly they have no ‘aqeedah upon which they are united (which unites them) – so you find some are Maatureedee, others are Ash’aree, whilst others are Soofee and even some who have no madhhab (affiliation to any particular ideology). This is because their Da'wah is built upon amassing (the people), then gathering together and culturising/instructing them, and in reality they do not really have any culture. More than half a century has passed and there has not appeared from amongst them a scholar. As for us, then we say instruct them, then gather together, such that the gathering together is based upon a foundation in which there is no doubt. So the da’wah of the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh is that of the Soofiyyah, they call to good manners, as for correcting the differing ‘aqeedah of the group, then they do not exert themselves one iota. This is because they believe this will cause differences (and splitting apart). It came to pass that a brother, Sa’d al-Husayn had much correspondence with the leader of the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh in India or Pakistan and it became clear from that they acknowledge (belief in) intercession and seeking help (from other than Allaah) and many other such things. And they require their people (members) to make bay’ah (oath of allegiance) based upon four issues: amongst them the Naqshbandiyyah methodology. So it is upon every tableeghee (one who ascribes to the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh) to make bay’ah of these fundamentals (issues). A questioner may ask: Indeed this group has corrected its faults (returned to Allaah) as a result of the efforts of many individuals and quite possibly many non-Muslims have accepted Islaam at their hands. Is this not sufficient (proof) for the permissibility of going out with them and participating in that which they call to? So we say: Indeed we know these words and hear them a lot and know them to emanate from the Soofiyyah! For example, there is a Shaykh whose ‘aqeedah is incorrect and does not know anything about the Sunnah. Instead they deceitfully take from the wealth of the people, so together with this, many open sinners seek forgiveness from them! So every group which invites to good, then it is imperative they should be in adherence (to the Qur'ân and the Sunnah), and (this) our approach is pure, so what are they (others) calling to? Are they calling to adherence to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger and the ;aqeedah of the Salaf as-Saalih, abandoning blind following of the madhhabs to such an extent that they adhere to the Sunnah over and above their madhhab!? So the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh do not have a knowledge-based (manhaj), rather, their manhaj is according to the place where they are to be found, so they change their "colours" to suit themselves.
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"Bin Baaz ka Fatwa : Tablighi Jamat Gumrah Kam Ilm hai" Fataawa of Shaykh ‘Abdul-‘Azeez bin Baaz in warning against the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh The Final Fataawa of Shaykh ‘Abdul-‘Azeez bin Baaz in warning against the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh In the Name of Allaah, All Compassionate, All Merciful His excellency, Shaykh ‘Abdul-‘Azeez bin Baaz (rahima-hullaah) was asked about the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh, so the questioner asked: Your excellency, we hear about the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh and that which their da’wah entails. So would you advise me to join this Jamaa’ah (group). I anticipate your guidance and advice, and may Allaah reward you immensely. So the Shaykh responded by saying: Whoever invites to (the path of) Allaah, then he is a muballigh (one who conveys the message (of Islaam)), (as the hadeeth mentions): ((Convey from me, even if it be a (single) Aayah)); However, the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh (originally) from India have many deviations. They have some aspects of bid’ah and shirk, so it is not permissible to go (out) with them, except for a person who has knowledge and goes (out) with them to disapprove of what they are upon and to teach them (the truth). If, however, he goes (out) to follow and adhere to them, then no. That is because they have deviations, mistakes and lack of knowledge. However, if there was a Jamaa’ah doing tableegh other than them, from the people of knowledge, then (it is permissible to) go out with them for daw’ah purposes. If there was a person of knowledge who goes out with them to enlighten and guide them, along with teaching them such that they leave their falsehood and embrace the way of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah, (then that is good). [so, the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh and those who sympathise with them, will benefit from this fatwa, illustrating the reality of their ‘aqeedah and Manhaj and the writings of their scholars whom they blindly follow] [This was extracted from the tape: ‘Fataawa Samaahatush-Shaykh ‘Abdul ‘Azeez Ibn Baaz concerning the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh’ which was published in Ta’if about two years before the Sahykh’s death. The tape refutes the cover-up of the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh and the old statement of the Shaykh which was published before their reality and manhaj was made clear to him. for Source simply Search words of above fatwa in google or pm me for wahabi's website for fatwas
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Bin Baaz ka fatwa : "Tabligh Jamat 72 Nari Firqo me se Ek Firqa hai" Jama’at at-Tableegh are from the seventy two destroyed sects Posted on: Tuesday, October 7th, 2003 @ 5:40 pm Written by/Said by: Shaykh 'Abdul 'Azeez ibn Baaz (رحمه الله) Taken from: ************************** His eminence, al-Allaamah, Shaykh ‘Abdul ‘Azeez ibn Baaz, may Allaah Ta’ala have mercy upon him, was asked: May Allaah grant you much good. In the hadeeth of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) regarding the breaking up of the nations, he (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said: “My Ummah (nation) will break up in to seventy three sects [all of them in the fire] except one". So the Jama’at at-Tableegh, with what they have from the aspects of shirk and innovations and the Ikhwaanul Muslimeen, with what they have from aspects of hizbiyyah (partisanship), who revolt against the authority of the Muslim rulers and who disobey them, do these two groups enter into the destroyed sects? So he - may Allaah forgive him and bestow upon him the vastness of His mercy - answered by saying: They enter in to the seventy two (destroyed sects). Whosoever goes against the ‘aqeedah of Ahlus Sunnah enters in to the seventy two (destroyed sects). The meaning of his (صلى الله عليه وسلم) statement: “my Ummah (nation)", is the Ummah of Ijaabah, meaning the nation that responded; the ones who responded (to his way) and showed their allegience to him. And the meaning of seventy three sects: The victorious sect, the saved (sect), is the one that adhered to him and were upright upon their religion and the seventy two sects includes the disbelievers, the sinners, and the innovators. Then the questioner said: You mean, that these two groups (Jama’at at-Tableegh and al-Ikhwaanul Muslimeen) are from the seventy two (destroyed sects)? The Shaykh answered: Yes, they are from amongst the seventy two, the likes of the Murji’ah and other than them. The Murji’ah and the Khawaarij, some of the people of knowledge are of the opinion that the Khawaarij are disbelievers outside (the fold of Islaam), but generally are included amongst the seventy two. for Source simply Search words of above fatwa in google or pm me for wahabi's website for fatwas
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Bin Baaz ka Fatwa : "Tablighi Jamat Naqisul Ilm hai Aqeedah iska Kharab So isky saath jana Najayz hai" Jama'atul Tableegh & the Prayer Within Mosques That Contain Graves Question: I travelled to India and Pakistan with the Jama’atul-Tableegh, and we used to gather and pray in mosques that had graves within them. And I heard that the prayer within a masjid that contains a grave is invalidated; so what is your opinion regarding my prayers and do I have to repeat them? And what is the ruling upon going out with them (Jama’atul-Tableegh) to these places? Answer: In the Name of Allaah, and all praise is due to Allaah, to proceed; Jama’atul-Tableegh do not have with them sure-sighted knowledge in issues of ‘Aqeedah, so it is not permissible to go out with them, except for the one who has with him knowledge and insight of the correct sound ‘Aqeedah, that which the Ahlus sunnah wal-Jama’ah are upon, so that he guides them and advises them and cooperates with them upon good, because they are very active in their work, however they are in need of more knowledge, and (in need of) those who will give them clear-sightedness from the scholars of Tawheed and Sunnah. May Allaah grant all people understanding in the religion and firmness upon it. As for the Prayer in Masjids that contain a grave within them, then it is not correct, and it is obligatory to repeat that which you prayed within them; due to the saying of the Prophet sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam: "May the curse of Allaah be upon the Jews and the Christians, they took the graves of their Prophets as places of worship." Its authenticity is agreed upon. And his sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam saying: "Truly those that came before you use to take the graves of their Prophets and righteous ones as places of worship, so do not take the graves as places of worship because, indeed I forbid you from that."[1] And the narrations in this subject are many. And success is with Allaah, and may the peace and blessings of Allaah be upon our Prophet Muhammad, and upon his family and Companions. _________________________ [1] Reported by Muslim in his Saheeh. Shaykh `Abdul-`Azeez Bin Baz ãÌãæÚ ÝÊÇæì æ ãÞÇáÇÊ ãÊäæøÚÉ, Volume.8, Page,331 Translated by Abu Maryam Taariq bin 'Ali for Source simply Search words of above fatwa in google or pm me for wahabi's website for fatwas
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Ghair Allah Se Madad - Deobandis Ke Ghar Se Saboot
Ya Mohammadah replied to Muhammad_Adnan's topic in مناظرہ اور ردِ بدمذہب
Waisy daad deni paregi tumhari besharmi ki...ke tum log kawwa birayaani kha kha kar is qadar beghairat-besharm ho gaye hoki itny saboot tumhary akabir se dikhaye gaye or wo akabir jinko tum hakeem mujadid ghos Qutub or na jany kya kya alqaabo se nawazty bhi ho or unhi ko daby lafzo me Mushrik bhi keh dalty ho kya kehny Is Deo ke aisy kamal sirf isi kawwa khoro me paye ja sakty hain......Ghairat lafz se kuch lena dena hai ki nahin Deoband..is ka?? Un dalail ko choony ki himmat bhi nahin ki Janab ne or rahi baat Hazrat Umar ko jhutlany ki(MazAllah)to shayad tumny meri pehli post is topic ki dekhi nahin ki mene kitni ayat or ahadees se wazeh saboot diya hai ki Allah ke mehboob uski ata se madad karny par qadir hain to apki mantiq ke hisab se phir aap to badarja e owla Munkir qaraar payengy or wo bhi Hadees ke nahin balki Allah ke Quran ke or phir Hadees to hain hi ref mein saath mein... Janab Anti Barelwi Sahab aapny sab kuch kaha magar beshumar ghar ke mushriko (baqowl tumhari Defination of Towheed and shirk) ki satarposhi tum na kar saky or wo bechary beech chorahy Kafir or Mushrik sabit ho gaye aapky fatawy ki zadd me aakar...aapka shukriya aapko jo option diya gaya ki aap par chora ki chahy to khud mardood qaraar payein ya phir aap apny akabir ko Mardood karaar dein...Apko Mubarak ho ki aapky akabir Apna deen or Towheed salamat na rakh kar Mushrik ho gaye (apky moqif se) or jab aapky aalimo ko akabir ko Towheed na samajh aa saki to aap kis khet ki mooli hain... Pehly unky naam lekar likh ki wo sab gher Allah se mang kar kafir Mushrik huey phir yahan akar Munazira kareiyga... ab sirf dalail se baat karna or humary jawab ka ilmi reply hi dijyega warna mazeed gali bakny ke liye aapki khankahy hain hi...or naye aitraaz karny ki is topic me aapko ijaat nahin di ja sakegi...usky liye nai topic banayein taki rah e faraar ka rasta hamwaar na hony paye apkye liye.. Hajr e Aswad waly aitraaz ka reply apky jawab dene ke baad diya jayega Hajr e aswad aapko koi nafa or humy koi Nuqsaan nahin de sakega is topic mein... ... -
Kabhi to Qismat khuelgi meri Kabhi to mera salam hoga..
Ya Mohammadah replied to Ya Mohammadah's topic in دیگر تمام درخواستیں
bohot shukriya Allah aap ko khush rakhy... -
Kabhi to Qismat khuelgi meri Kabhi to mera salam hoga..
اس ٹاپک میں نے Ya Mohammadah میں پوسٹ کیا دیگر تمام درخواستیں
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waqt mily to anti-Ahle Sunnat i mean (Deoband..i) kuch time is topic par bhi guzar lein... Quran Khuwani Or Deobandi, Kahan Gaya Biddat Ka Fatwa ?????
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Ghair Allah Se Madad - Deobandis Ke Ghar Se Saboot
Ya Mohammadah replied to Muhammad_Adnan's topic in مناظرہ اور ردِ بدمذہب
Naqisul Aql Zuban Daraz Deobandi...Abu Dawood or Tirmizi Shareef me Mojood hai ki ye Hajr e Aswad nafa bhi de sakta hai Nuqsaan bhi kal Qayamt ke roz e paththar bandy ke haq me or usky khilaaf gawahai dekar usy nafa nuqsan bhi pohchayega... Hajr_e_Aswad_or_Nafa_Nuqsaan.mp3