Ayatullah

In shia sahab ne ek quran ki ayat pesh ki aur ek hadith. Dono ka aapas mein koee talluk nahee. Pata nahee kya sabat karna chah rahay hain. Sura yunus ki ayat 54 mein qiyamat ke din ka zikar hai. Pata nahee shia sahab ne kya say kya bana liya. Yeh shia hazraat kabhee tafseer nahee padhtey kya? Aur yahan per koee bhee shaksh ayat 51 say shuru karey to baat wazah ho jayegi. SIRF WAQT KA ZAYA KARNA HAI IN SHIAON KE SAATH BAAT KARNEY MEIN. AL HASANI

مناقب عمر بن الخطاب أبي حفص القرشي العدوي رضي الله صحيح البخاري 3737 ـ حَدَّثَنَا الصَّلْتُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَيُّوبُ، عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي مُلَيْكَةَ، عَنِ الْمِسْوَرِ بْنِ مَخْرَمَةَ، قَالَ لَمَّا طُعِنَ عُمَرُ جَعَلَ يَأْلَمُ، فَقَالَ لَهُ ابْنُ عَبَّاسٍ ـ وَكَأَنَّهُ يُجَزِّعُهُ ـ يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ، وَلَئِنْ كَانَ ذَاكَ لَقَدْ صَحِبْتَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَأَحْسَنْتَ صُحْبَتَهُ، ثُمَّ فَارَقْتَهُ وَهْوَ عَنْكَ رَاضٍ، ثُمَّ صَحِبْتَ أَبَا بَكْرٍ فَأَحْسَنْتَ صُحْبَتَهُ، ثُمَّ فَارَقْتَهُ وَهْوَ عَنْكَ رَاضٍ، ثُمَّ صَحِبْتَ صَحَبَتَهُمْ فَأَحْسَنْتَ صُحْبَتَهُمْ، وَلَئِنْ فَارَقْتَهُمْ لَتُفَارِقَنَّهُمْ وَهُمْ عَنْكَ رَاضُونَ‏.‏ قَالَ أَمَّا مَا ذَكَرْتَ مِنْ صُحْبَةِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَرِضَاهُ، فَإِنَّمَا ذَاكَ مَنٌّ مِنَ اللَّهِ تَعَالَى مَنَّ بِهِ عَلَىَّ، وَأَمَّا مَا ذَكَرْتَ مِنْ صُحْبَةِ أَبِي بَكْرٍ وَرِضَاهُ، فَإِنَّمَا ذَاكَ مَنٌّ مِنَ اللَّهِ جَلَّ ذِكْرُهُ مَنَّ بِهِ عَلَىَّ، وَأَمَّا مَا تَرَى مِنْ جَزَعِي، فَهْوَ مِنْ أَجْلِكَ وَأَجْلِ أَصْحَابِكَ، وَاللَّهِ لَوْ أَنَّ لِي طِلاَعَ الأَرْضِ ذَهَبًا لاَفْتَدَيْتُ بِهِ مِنْ عَذَابِ اللَّهِ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ قَبْلَ أَنْ أَرَاهُ‏.‏ فتح الباري بشرح صحيح البخاري ‏قَوْله : ( حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيل بْن إِبْرَاهِيم ) ‏ ‏هُوَ الَّذِي يُقَال لَهُ اِبْن عُلَيَّة . ‏ ‏قَوْله : ( عَنْ الْمِسْوَر بْن مَخْرَمَةَ ) ‏ ‏كَذَا رَوَاهُ اِبْن عُلَيَّة وَرَوَاهُ حَمَّاد بْن زَيْد كَمَا عَلَّقَهُ الْمُصَنِّف بَعْد فَقَالَ " عَنْ اِبْن عَبَّاس " وَأَخْرَجَهُ الْإِسْمَاعِيلِيّ مِنْ رِوَايَة الْقَوَارِيرِيّ عَنْ حَمَّاد بْن زَيْد مَوْصُولًا , وَيَحْتَمِل أَنْ يَكُون مَحْفُوظًا عَنْ الِاثْنَيْنِ . ‏ ‏قَوْله : ( لَمَّا طُعِنَ عُمَر ) ‏ ‏سَيَأْتِي بَيَان ذَلِكَ بَعْد فِي أَوَاخِر مَنَاقِب عُثْمَان . ‏ ‏قَوْله : ( وَكَأَنَّهُ يُجَزِّعهُ ) ‏ ‏بِالْجِيمِ وَالزَّاي الثَّقِيلَة أَيْ يَنْسُبهُ إِلَى الْجَزَع وَيَلُومهُ عَلَيْهِ , أَوْ مَعْنَى يُجَزِّعُهُ يُزِيل عَنْهُ الْجَزَع , وَهُوَ كَقَوْلِهِ تَعَالَى ( حَتَّى إِذَا فُزِّعَ عَنْ قُلُوبهمْ ) أَيْ أُزِيلَ عَنْهُمْ الْفَزَع , وَمِثْله مَرَّضَهُ إِذَا عَانَى إِزَالَة مَرَضه , وَوَقَعَ فِي رِوَايَة الْجُرْجَانِيّ " وَكَأَنَّهُ جَزِعَ " هَذَا يَرْجِع الضَّمِير فِيهِ إِلَى عُمَر بِخِلَافِ رِوَايَة الْجَمَاعَة فَإِنَّ الضَّمِير فِيهَا لِابْنِ عَبَّاس . وَوَقَعَ فِي رِوَايَة حَمَّاد بْن زَيْد " وَقَالَ اِبْن عَبَّاس مَسِسْت جِلْد عُمَر فَقُلْت جِلْد لَا تَمَسّهُ النَّار أَبَدًا , قَالَ فَنَظَرَ إِلَيَّ نَظْرَة كُنْت أَرْثِي لَهُ مِنْ تِلْكَ النَّظْرَة " . ‏ ‏قَوْله : ( وَلَئِنْ كَانَ ذَاكَ ) ‏ ‏كَذَا فِي رِوَايَة الْأَكْثَر , وَفِي رِوَايَة الْكُشْمِيهَنِيِّ " وَلَا كُلّ ذَلِكَ " أَيْ لَا تُبَالِغ فِي الْجَزَع فِيمَا أَنْتَ فِيهِ , وَلِبَعْضِهِمْ : وَلَا كَانَ ذَلِكَ , وَكَأَنَّهُ دُعَاء , أَيْ لَا يَكُون مَا تَخَافهُ , أَوْ لَا يَكُون الْمَوْت بِتِلْكَ الطَّعْنَة . ‏ ‏قَوْله : ( ثُمَّ فَارَقْت ) ‏ ‏كَذَا بِحَذْفِ الْمَفْعُول , وَلِلكُشمِيهَنِيّ : " ثُمَّ فَارَقْته " . ‏ ‏قَوْله : ( ثُمَّ صَحِبْتهمْ فَأَحْسَنْت صُحْبَتهمْ , وَلَئِنْ فَارَقْتهمْ ) ‏ ‏يَعْنِي الْمُسْلِمِينَ , وَفِي رِوَايَة بَعْضهمْ " ثُمَّ صَحِبْت صَحَبَتَهُمْ " بِفَتْحِ الصَّاد وَالْحَاء وَالْمُوَحَّدَة , أَيْ أَصْحَاب النَّبِيّ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ وَأَبِي بَكْر , وَفِيهِ نَظَر لِلْإِتْيَانِ بِصِيغَةِ الْجَمْع مَوْضِع التَّثْنِيَة , قَالَ عِيَاض : يَحْتَمِل أَنْ يَكُون " صَحِبْت " زَائِدَة وَإِنَّمَا هُوَ ثُمَّ صَحِبْتهمْ أَيْ الْمُسْلِمِينَ , قَالَ : وَالرِّوَايَة الْأُولَى هِيَ الْوَجْه , وَرَوَيْنَاهَا فِي أَمَالِي أَبِي الْحَسَن بْن رِزْقَوَيْهِ مِنْ حَدِيث اِبْن عُمَر قَالَ " لَمَّا طُعِنَ عُمَر قَالَ لَهُ اِبْن عَبَّاس " فَذَكَرَ حَدِيثًا قَالَ فِيهِ " وَلَمَّا أَسْلَمْت كَانَ إِسْلَامك عِزًّا " . ‏ ‏قَوْله : ( فَإِنَّ ذَلِكَ مِنْ ) ‏ ‏أَيْ عَطَاء ; وَفِي رِوَايَة الْكُشْمِيهَنِيّ " فَإِنَّمَا ذَلِكَ " . ‏ ‏قَوْله : ( فَهُوَ مِنْ أَجْلك وَمِنْ أَجْل أَصْحَابك ) ‏ ‏فِي رِوَايَة أَبِي ذَرّ عَنْ الْحَمَوِيّ الْمُسْتَمْلِي " أُصَيْحَابك " بِالتَّصْغِيرِ , أَيْ مِنْ جِهَة فِكْرَته فِيمَنْ يَسْتَخْلِف عَلَيْهِمْ , أَوْ مِنْ أَجْل فِكْرَته فِي سِيرَته الَّتِي سَارَهَا فِيهِمْ , وَكَأَنَّهُ غَلَبَ عَلَيْهِ الْخَوْف فِي تِلْكَ الْحَالَة مَعَ هَضْم نَفْسه وَتَوَاضُعه لِرَبِّهِ . ‏ ‏قَوْله : ( طِلَاع الْأَرْض ) ‏ ‏بِكَسْرِ الطَّاء الْمُهْمَلَة وَالتَّخْفِيف أَيْ مِلْأَهَا , وَأَصْل الطِّلَاع مَا طَلَعَتْ عَلَيْهِ الشَّمْس , وَالْمُرَاد هُنَا مَا يَطْلُع عَلَيْهَا وَيُشْرِف فَوْقهَا مِنْ الْمَال . ‏ ‏قَوْله : ( قَبْل أَنْ أَرَاهُ ) ‏ ‏أَيْ الْعَذَاب , وَإِنَّمَا قَالَ ذَلِكَ لِغَلَبَةِ الْخَوْف الَّذِي وَقَعَ لَهُ فِي ذَلِكَ الْوَقْت مِنْ خَشْيَة التَّقْصِير فِيمَا يَجِب عَلَيْهِ مِنْ حُقُوق الرَّعِيَّة , أَوْ مِنْ الْفِتْنَة بِمَدْحِهِمْ . ‏ ‏قَوْله : ( قَالَ حَمَّاد بْن زَيْد ) ‏ ‏وَصَلَهُ الْإِسْمَاعِيلِيّ كَمَا تَقَدَّمَ وَاللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ , وَسَيَأْتِي مَزِيد فِي الْكَلَام عَلَى هَذَا الْحَدِيث فِي قِصَّة قَتْل عُمَر آخِر مَنَاقِب عُثْمَان . وَأَخْرَجَ اِبْن سَعْد مِنْ طَرِيق أَبِي عُبَيْد مَوْلَى اِبْن عَبَّاس عَنْ اِبْن عَبَّاس فَذَكَرَ شَيْئًا مِنْ قِصَّة قَتْل عُمَر . ‏ SAHIH BUKHARI , CHAPTER COMPANIONS OF THE PROPHET , : SUB CHAPTER:VI: The Virtues of 'Umar ibn al-Khattab, Abu Hafs, al-Qurayshi al-'Adawi Narrated Al-Miswar bin Makhrama: When 'Umar was stabbed, he showed signs of agony. Ibn 'Abbas, as if intending to encourage 'Umar, said to him, "O Chief of the believers! Never mind what has happened to you, for you have been in the company of Allah's Apostle and you kept good relations with him and you parted with him while he was pleased with you. Then you were in the company of Abu Bakr and kept good relations with him and you parted with him (i.e. he died) while he was pleased with you. Then you were in the company of the Muslims, and you kept good relations with them, and if you leave them, you will leave them while they are pleased with you." 'Umar said, (to Ibn "Abbas), "As for what you have said about the company of Allah's Apostle and his being pleased with me, it is a favor, Allah did to me; and as for what you have said about the company of Abu Bakr and his being pleased with me, it is a favor Allah did to me; and concerning my impatience which you see, is because of you and your companions. By Allah! If (at all) I had gold equal to the earth, I would have ransomed myself with it from the Punishment of Allah before I meet Him."

JIN BHAI KE PAAS WAQT HAI , WAH IS SHIA KO SAMJHAE. ISAKEY JHOOT SAY MAIN PARESHAN HO GAYA HOON. Arabic : Tafsir Al Jalalayn , Sura Yunus ( sura 10) Ayat : 54 تفسير تفسير الجلالين وَلَوْ أَنَّ لِكُلِّ نَفْسٍ ظَلَمَتْ مَا فِي ٱلأَرْضِ لاَفْتَدَتْ بِهِ وَأَسَرُّواْ ٱلنَّدَامَةَ لَمَّا رَأَوُاْ ٱلْعَذَابَ وَقُضِيَ بَيْنَهُمْ بِٱلْقِسْطِ وَهُمْ لاَ يُظْلَمُونَ { وَلَوْ أَنَّ لِكُلِّ نَفْسٍ ظَلَمَتْ } كفرت { مَّا فِى ٱلأَرْضِ } جميعاً من الأموال { لاَفْتَدَتْ بِهِ } من العذاب يوم القيامة { وَأَسَرُّواْ ٱلنَّدَامَةَ } على ترك الإِيمان { لَمَّا رَأَوُاْ ٱْلَعَذَابَ } أي أخفاها رؤساؤهم عن الضعفاء الذين أضلوهم مخافة التعيير { وَقُضِىَ بَيْنَهُمْ } بين الخلائق { بِٱلْقِسْطِ } بالعدل { وَهُمْ لاَ يُظْلَمُونَ } شيئاً. English: Sura Yunus , Ayat 54 , Tafsir Al Jalalayn And if each soul that has done wrong, [that] has disbelieved, had all that is in the earth, of riches, it would offer it as ransom, against chastisement on the Day of Resurrection; and they will feel remorse within them, for having neglected faith, when they see the chastisement, their leaders keep it [their remorse] secret from the weak ones whom they had led astray, fearing reproach, but it has been decided justly between them, [between] all creatures, and they are not wronged, in anything. .

IBN SABA KAUN THA? Aaiye DEKHEIN KHUD YAHUDI ENCYCLOPEDIA KYA KEHTEE HAI A Jew of Yemen, Arabia, of the seventh century, who settled in Medina and embraced Islam. Having adversely criticized Calif Othman's administration, he was banished from the town. Thence he went to Egypt, where he founded an antiothmanian sect, to promote the interests of Ali. On account of his learning he obtained great influence there, and formulated the doctrine that, just as every prophet had an assistant who afterward succeeded him, Mohammed's vizier was Ali, who had therefore been kept out of the califate by deceit. Othman had no legal claim whatever to the califate; and the general dissatisfaction with his government greatly contributed to the spread of Abdallah's teachings. Tradition relates that when Ali had assumed power, Abdallah ascribed divine honors to him by addressing him with the words, "Thou art Thou!" Thereupon Ali banished him to Madain. After Ali's assassination Abdallah is said to have taught that Ali was not dead but alive, and had never been killed; that a part of the Deity was hidden in him; and that after a certain time he would return to fill the earth with justice. Till then the divine character of Ali was to remain hidden in the imams, who temporarily filled his place. It is easy to see that the whole idea rests on that of the Messiah in combination with the legend of Elijah the prophet. The attribution of divine honors to Ali was probably but a later development, and was fostered by the circumstance that in the Koran Allah is often styled "Al-Ali" (The Most High). Bibliography: Shatrastani al-Milal, pp. 132 et seq. (in Haarbrücken's translation, i. 200-201); Weil, Gesch. der Chalifen, i. 173-174, 209, 259.H. Hir http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp...89&letter=A SAB BHAI KHUD CHECK KAREIN AUR YAQEEN KAR LEIN MUKHTASAR URDU TARJUMA Yemen ka yahudi jo medina mein chala gaya aur islam qubool kiya. Utham (rd) ki Khilafat ki mukhalifat ki ! Egypt mein ja kar Ali rd ke haq mein logon ko ikattha karma shuru kar diya aur kaha ki Ali rd huzoor paak ke baad khilafat ka haq rakhtey they!. Jab Ali rd khalifah baney tab , isaney Alird ko ALLAH kahna shuru kiya ( Nauz billah) . Ali rd ne isako medina se bahar nikkal diya . Jab Ali rd ka inteqaal ho gaya tab isaney kaha “ ALI MAREY NAHE HAIN ! WAJ ZINDA HAIN .. UNAKEY PAAS KHUDAEE TAQAT HAI” Shia aalim Abu Jafar at Tusi ki kitab “ ikhtiyay marifat ar rijal “ mein IBN SABA ke barey mein puray do page ( 2 page , 323 and 324 ) likha hai ! Jin shia Imamon ne iBn saba ke barey mein likha hai wah hai. Reeport number 170 -174 170 – Muhammed al baqir rd 171- jafar as sadiq rd 172 jafar as sadiq rd 173- zaynul abideen rd 174 jafar as sadiq rd Traikh Ibn Asakir mein IBn SABA ke aqeday ka bayan hai. Usaka aqeeda tha ( VOL 29 ) 1. Abu Bakr aur Umar ko bura kahna aur mazak udana . 2. Yeh ki Huzoor paak ney kuch khaas ilm Ali rd ko diya tha jo kisee aur ko nahee hai Shia hadith rawiyon ka kissa bhee bada mazemdaar hai! Insha Allah phir kabhee! Al Hasani

Matam per dusary thread mein shiaon ki jhoot aur sayyeda ayesha siddiqa key " matam" wali riwayat ko tahqeeqi jawab diya gaya hai. Ayesha siddiqq rd ney koee matam nahee kiya. Agar moderators munasib samajhey to matam wala sirf ek thread open rahney dein , jismein shiaon ko jhoot scan ke saath sabit kiya gaya hai. Baki threead close/ lock karnein say sahulat hogee. Al Hasani

Matam per do (two) thread active hai . Dusray thread mein shiaon ka raad kiya gaya hai aur shiaon ki jhoot pakadee gayee hai ,, sabhee bhai us thread ko check karein. Al Hasani

Sitara sahab ke FAREB ka parada faash 'MATAM waley thread mein ho chuka hai. Aur is thread mein yeh surah yunus ki jo ayat pesh kar key usako ek hadith say joda hai ! YEH IN SHIA SAHAB ke dusara jhoot hai ,, kin bhaion ko sach janana hai wah quran ki SURA YUNUS KI AYAT 51 TO 54 ko padh lein . Phir dekhein is shia ne sirf ayat 54 ko alhanda pesh kiya hai !! insha Allah waqt mila to tafseelan jawab post kiya jayega. waisey in shiaon ka jhoot aap sab bhai " matam' thread per dekh saktey hain ,, is liye in shiaon say baat karney ki koee dilchasbee ab bai nahee rahee. Al Hasani

IS FORUM KE SABSEY BADEY JHOOT KA PARDA FAASH Sitara sahab ney Sunan Ibn Majah say hadees ka scan kiya aur phir EDIT option ka istemal kartey hue hadees ka aakhiri hissa ERASE kar diya !! Aap sabhee bhai gaur say DEKHEIN TO KALE SPOT nazar aayegein !! Sitara sahab nay AISA KYUN KIYA aur MUkammal hadees kya hai ,, wah main aap logon ki khidmat mein pesh karta hoon سنن ابن ماجه كتاب الجنائز باب مَا جَاءَ فِي الْبُكَاءِ عَلَى الْمَيِّتِ 1659 - حَدَّثَنَا هَارُونُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ الْمِصْرِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ وَهْبٍ، أَنْبَأَنَا أُسَامَةُ بْنُ زَيْدٍ، عَنْ نَافِعٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ مَرَّ بِنِسَاءِ عَبْدِ الأَشْهَلِ يَبْكِينَ هَلْكَاهُنَّ يَوْمَ أُحُدٍ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ ‏"‏ لَكِنَّ حَمْزَةَ لاَ بَوَاكِيَ لَهُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَجَاءَ نِسَاءُ الأَنْصَارِ يَبْكِينَ حَمْزَةَ فَاسْتَيْقَظَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالَ ‏"‏ وَيْحَهُنَّ مَا انْقَلَبْنَ بَعْدُ مُرُوهُنَّ فَلْيَنْقَلِبْنَ وَلاَ يَبْكِينَ عَلَى هَالِكٍ بَعْدَ الْيَوْمِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ URDU TRAJUMA Sunan Ibn Majah , Kitab Al Janaiz , bab : Mayyat per ronay ka bayan Hazrat Abdullah bin Umar Rd say rawayat hai ki Huzoor alayhis salam Ab al asheel ( ek qabiley ka naam ) ki auraton ke qarreb say guzary , wah ro rahee thee apaney logon per jo uhad ki jung mein marey gai they. Aap nay farmaaya " lekin Hamzah per koee ronay wala nahee hai" . Yeh sun kar Ansaar ki auratein aaein aur hamzah per ronay lagee. Huzoor Alayhis salam jaagey aur farmaya " KHARABI HO IN KI ABHEE TAK YEH SAB AURATEIN NAHEE WAPAS NAHEE GAYEEN? IN SAY KAHO WAPAS HO JAEIN AUR KISEE MURDEY PER AAJ SAY NA ROEIN. English Translation Ibn Umar rd is reported to have said that Allah's messenger ( alayhis salam) happened to pass by some women beonging to Abd al Ash-hel ( tribe) who were bewailing their (dears) killed on the day of ( the battle of ) Uhud. Allah's messenger ( alayhissalam) said " There is none to weep for Hmaza rd" . Upon which the women of Ansar began to weep for Hamza . Then Allah's messenger ( alahys salam) woke up and said " WOE TO THEM . HAVE THEY NOT RETURNED ( TO THEIR HOUSES) TILL NOW?.ORDER THEM TO GO BACK AND NOT WEEP OVER ANY DEAD AFTER THIS DAY" REQUEST TO MODERATORS : YEH SITARA EK SHIA HAI , JO SUNNI KI SHAKL MEIN TAQQYA KAR RAHA HAI. AISAY SHIAON KI WAJAH SEY FORUM PER JAHALAT FAILATEE HAI AUR SACCHEY SUNNI MUSLAMAN SHUBAH KA SHIKAR HO JATEY HAIN. MAINWEY IS SHIA KI DUSARI POST BHEE CHECK KI HAI JAHAN ISANEY QURAN SHERIF KI AYAT AUR HADITH KO GALAT MAFHOOM KE SSATH PESH KIYA HAI . AGAR AAP LOG MUNASIB SAHMAJEY TO ISAKO BAN KAR DEIN TAKI ISAKEE TAMAM POST KI JAANCH KI JA SAKEY. AL HASANI

Sitara sahab , kya aap is BAB ( sub chapter) ka naam likh saktey hain jismein yah haddes hai?

Jo thread open hain un per jawab diya ja raha hai .. lekin yahan per ek ahma baat batlana Zaruri hai. Shiaon ka IMAMIYA SILSILA , sayyedina Hussein Rd se hai . Hussein rd ke farzand Zaynul Abideen rd they and un hee ki aulad mein sarey imam hain. Hussein rd ne ek sey zyada NIKAH kiya tha. Unkee ek ZAWJA ( WIFE ) ka naam SHEHAR BANU THA. Shaher banu zaynul abdieen rd ki walida theen. Ab sawal utatha hai SEHAR BANU kaun thee? Jis waqt Umar rd khalifa they , un honay faras ke ilaqey per JIHAD kiya aur wahan ke ek baadshah ko shikast di. Shehar banu yahan ki shehzaadi theen. Jab shehar banu ko pakad kar bandee bana kar ( prisoner of war) laya gaya , tab unka nikah zaynul abideen rd ke saath hua. Is nikah say mohammed Baqir rd ki paidaish huee aur phir baki ke shia imam isee kadee ( link) mein hain. Agar Umar rd ki khilafat galat thee aur ghair islami thee .. aur un honay Ali rd ke haq ko taaqat say zabardasti haasil kiya , tab unka JIHAD bhee gala tha ,, wah jihad ghyr islami tha ,, kyunkee unakee khilafat hee ghiar islami thee ! Agar Jihad ghair islami tha tab , jo log jihad mein pakadey gai ,, wah bhee islamic jihad ke qanoon ke mutabik HALAL nahee they . Kyunkee sirf islamic jihad hee mein pakadey gai log aur mal e ganeemat musalmano mein bata ja sakta hai. Loot paat mein pakadey gai log aur zayaddad mal e ganimat mein shumar nahee hota. Ab agar jo log pakadey gai wah sab Halal nahee they , tab shehar banu bhee JAYAZ nahee thee, kyunkee shiaon ke mutabik umar rd ka jihad , jihad nahee tha , wah to loot paat thee! Ab agar shehar banu HALAL nahee theen , tab Unaka nikah bhee Hussein rd ke saath Jayaz NAHEE tha. Ab agar nikah jayaz nahee tha , tab aulad bhee jayaz nahee hogi ! Aagr aulad jayaz nahee hogi to isaka matlab shiaon ka IMAMIA silsila JAYAZ nahee rahega !!! To Malum yeh hua ki umar rd ki khilafat HAQ THEE , wah Ali rd say muhabbat kartey they , koee haq talafaee nahee huee ,, Sayyedina Ali rd duniya ki lalach say paak they . Umar rd ka jihad halal tha , jo log pkadey gai wah bhee halal they aur sehar banu bhee halal theein aur unaka NIKAH BHEE halal tha aur tamam aulaadein bhee jauaz theein. Agar shia isako nahee maney to hum kya karein! Al Hasani

Quran al kareem , sUrat An Nisa , ayat no 148 . لَّا يُحِبُّ اللَّهُ الْجَهْرَ بِالسُّوءِ مِنَ الْقَوْلِ إِلَّا مَن ظُلِمَ ۚ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ سَمِيعًا عَلِيمًا Allah ta'ala be awaaz buland buri baat kahney ko na pasand farmaata hai siwae mazloom ( ki baat) key aur Allah bahut sunaney wala nihayat ilm wala hai. Sitara sahab , kya aap bata saktey hain , is ayat sey aap ney kaisey yeh istedlal kiya ki 10 muharram ko kameez khol kar badan per khoon nikalana jayaz hai.. Bara e meharbani batlaein. Aur is ayat ki tafseer mein Ali rd ka qawl bhee mawjodd hai , wah bhee dekh lein. Aap gyrahween kyun manate hain isasey mujhey koee saraokaar nahee. Agar aap koee point kehna chahtey hain to tahreer karein , mujhey nahee pata aap gyauhreween sey matam kaisey sabit karegein. Aap is ayat say shion ka matam sabit karein. Request to moderators :: IN SABHEE POST KO MATAM WALEY THREAD MEIN TRANSFER KAR DEIN. ( Last 5 post and this post ) Al hasani

Shiaon ke mazhab mein Sayyedina Umar Rd ki khilafat " Ghay Islami" thee. Unhoany Sayyedina Ali rd ke " haq" per kabaza kiya tha . Chunkee Khilafat " chaal bazi" aur " siyasat" se haasil ki gayee aye Sayyedina Ali rd ko un kay " haq " say marhoom rakha gaya , isiliye shia ke nazdeek Umar rd ki khilafat galat aur ghayr islami thee. Ab is ka kya natiza nikalat hai ,, usey mein Insha Allah thoday waqt mein post karta hoon . Al Hasani

Ummul Momineen Ayesha siddiqa rd ne KAUN SA ALFAAZ ISTEEMAL KIYA AUR WAH HADEES/ RIWAYAT KIS HADEES KI KITAB MEIN MAWJOOD HAI ?? Kya koee bhai isakee wajahat kar sakta hai?

Sabsey pehlee guzarish hai ki quran ke jab reference dein tab SURAT KA NAAM YA NUMBER DEIN AUR AYAT NUMBER. "PARA" reference na dein. Pehley hadees post ki gayee thee ki nabi paak ki aankhon mein khud aansoo aa gae they jan unakey farzand ka inteqal hua. Nabee paak ne gham karne ki muddat teen din ( 3 days) rakhee. Ab agar bil farz Ayatullah ka inteqaal aaj ho jae ,, to aap teen dink tak ( 3 days) tak khoob ro lijiye , aanson baha lijiye . Lekin har saal aaj ki tarikh per kapadey utar ker khoon nikalana kaun si ayat se sabit hai? jawab dein ,,, MATAM wale thread mein ! Al Hasani