Punjtun ka kya hi kahna. Main to Punjtun ka ghulam hoon. Reference abhi hazir kiye deta hoon. Ab phir ye na kahna ke Rauf shiya ya Rafzi ho gaya hai

Sorry Chishti bhai!! Jaisay aap ki marzi main ab aitraaz nahi karta chhay jitnay mazri topic kholo Magar mera Empire wala hai. Jo wrong khele ga os ko tok doon ga reference ke sath. Ok??

Chhoro Moderator Bhai. Ye bhi koi issue hai aitraaz wala. Lakhon ka naam kalab se shoroo hota hai.

Ayatullah Bhai..... kuch to es forum pe reham karo. Kya pehle walay topics aap ne jeet liye hain jo ye naya issue khara kar diya. Aap kyon garay murday ukhaarnay pe tulay howay ho. Please meharbani karo baki topics par tawajjo do baki baad main hota rehe ga

Sorry Ashiq Bahi. Kis ne aap ko "K" kaha. very sorry. Main ne aap ko pehle hi bata diya aap asal shiyon ke ilaf Bay bhi nahi jaantay. Aap ko kya pata kaunsi book asal shiyon ki hai or kaun si raafziyon ki. Jis tara Imam-e-Azam ko maanay walay Deobund bhi hain Qadiyani bhi. Osi tarha Shiya kahlanay walay rafzi bhi hain or zaidi bhi hain ismaeeli bhi, alviya bhi 6 or hain. Please imaan ke sath research karen.

Ayatullah kya aap ko pata hai hum Gayaarhveen Sharif kyon karte hain. Agar pata hai to Jawab do phir main aagay chaloon ga> Issue ye nahi ke jisam se khoon nikala jaye. Issue ye hai ke os din gham karna. afsoos karna. Afsos wohi kare ga jis ko Ahal-e-Bait ya Hussain se mohabbat ho gi. Jis ko nahi ho gi wo jaanay or or os ka anjaam Allah ke pass. Main thori der main Para-6 ki pehli ayat translation ke sath paste karta hoon

Mujhe to es aitraaz ki samjh nahi ayi. Please explain who knows

Ayatullah Sahib Para-6 ki pehli ayat kya kah rahi hai. Zara parh kar batana "Nahi gunah os par magar wo jo mazloom par roye" Matam karna ya na karna alaihda baat hai. Please comments

Ashiq Bhai aap phir wrong khel rehe ho. Aap beshak on ko Kafir kaho jo aisa karte hain. Magar jo hum brailvyion ki tarha asli sunni hain, osi tarha asli shiyya hain ji ko osooli shiya kahte hain. Kal on ke baray main "Tahreef-e-Quran" walay topic main 2 scan pages paste kiye hain. Aap agar wo parhen ge to kuch samajh aye ga. Raafzi bilkul aisa karte hon ge. Magar Osooli shiya aise nahi hain. Ab aap aik baat par ar gaye hain to Allah hi aap ke dil main hak baat dalay main kya karoon ab

Ashiq bhai aap ab abhi bhi andheray main ho. Kya Sahaba jahanmi bhi ho sakte hain. Or ye jo on ka kasoor hai "Biddat karna" wo kaunsi biddat hai. Kuch pata hai aap ko. Foran aap ne futwa de diya. Hai himmat to chalen aagay?? Postively ijazat den to aap ki aankhen khul jayen??

"Ji" Bhai yaar scan pages main reference hi de dete taakay sub ko clear ho jata

Koi es topic par bhi to baat karo yaar.

Good work!! Haq Bhai

Ashiq bhai aap ne sahi tarha se abhi shiyyat ko parha nahi. Wo really shiyya nahi Kafir hi ho ga jo Aap Ali ko Nabi maanta hai. Ashiq Bhai. apni ghalt fehmi door karen or mazeed books parhen

Very nice work!!

Photos to dil ko hila kar rakh dene wali hain. Best work!!

Chishti Qadri Bhai!! JazakAllah Aap ki kitaab download kar ke main ne parh li hai. Jis ka khulasa ye hai jo Sahaba ka munkir hai or jo onhain bura bhala kahta hai wo Kafir hai or Raafzi hai. Bilkul theek kaha hum Sahaba Karaam ke jutiyon ki khaak ke barabar bhi nahi hain. Magar such ko badla bhi nahi jaa sakta. Main "Sahi Bukhari" se kuch ahadis attach kar raha hoon or aap please ye soch kar ke (Sirf Allah ko Jaan deni hai or osi ko hi apnay amaal ka jawab dena hai) reply karna. Ab please Khuda or Rasoolallah (PBUH) ka wasta de raha hoon ko koi es attachment ko delete na kare. Takay ye baat esi topic main khatam ho jaye. En Hadison ko parh lijiye gaa. Or kis sahabi ne kya Biddat ki ye main bata doon ga. Phir aap ki marzi Aala Hazrat ki book ko maanay ya Saha-e-Sitta ko maanay. Regards,

Chishti Qadri Bhai!! Pehli Baat ke es sher (Hadis) se un Abu Talib ka kufar bhi sabit nahi ho raha or wo Rasoolallah (PBUH) ke wasilay se Allah se hi barish ki dua kar rehe hain. Or koi Kafir Allah se Dua nahi karta or wo bhi Rasoolallah ke wasila se. Doosri baat. Agar main hadis (sirf Saha-e-Sitta) pe aa gaya to aap ko baron baron ke imaan dugmagatay nazar ayen ge. Behtar yahi hai ke aap hadis wali baat apnay pass hi rakhen. Aap ye kyon nahi samajh rehe ke aulaad Ali ke sari ki sari shaheed ho gai. Mimbar pe Ali ko bura bhala kaha jata raha. Ye sub kuch aap ko main Saha-e-Sitta se dikha sakta hoon. Magar aap baar baar Aala Hazrat 9RA) ki kitaab ka hawala de rehe hain. Jo ke logically koi bhi accept karnay ke liye tayyar nahi ho ga kyon ke os book ki value overall Hadis ke mukabalay main kafi kam hai. Chishti Bhai!! bura na manana main Aala Hazrat ki tauheen nahi kar raha balkay!! Main agar 3rd para main agar main Ali ko bura bhala kahna (Saha-e-Sitta) se na kar saka to beshak mujhe moderators ban kar den. Baroz-e-Kiamat main kisi ka kirabaan nahi pakron ga ke falaan forum par mere sath ziadti hoi. Agar haqiqat samjhnay ke liye tayyar hain to baat karen otherwise Imaan-e-Abu Talib ke baray main khamoshi behtar hai. Aziz Mian aisay to nahi kah gaye ke "Allah Hi Jaanay Kaun Bashar Hai" Regards

Janab main kitaab download kar ke dekh chuka hoon. os ke start main hi jo hadis main ne paste ki os ka sher hai. Phir kaha jaa raha hai ke es se yeh sabit nahi hota ke Abu Talib ® ne kalma parha. Mufti Sahib, agar aap logic par chalo or es sher ko saamnay rakho to aap ke pass koi saboot nahi ke Abu Talib muslimaan nahi tha. Baki kitni hadsen zaeef hain. Osi hi jaga ye hadis bhi likhi hoi hai jo ye kah rahi he ke Abu Talib ne kalma nahi parha. Ab kya karen kis baat ko maanen. Ya ye sher ghalat hai ya wo hadis. Kuch na kuch daal main kala zaroor hai. Or main kyon Mufti ki himayat karnay laga. Main to sirf or sirf Hak ka sath doon ga.

Chishti Bhai!!! Aap phir wrong khail rehe ho. Agar Quran ka reference diya jata hai wo bhi aap nahi maantay ab mai ne Hadis ka reference de diya hai to wo bhi aap ko pasand nahi. Aap mujhe Aala Hazrat ki book parhnay ko kah rehe hain. Kya Guarantee hai ke ye book Aala Hazrat ne likhi hai. Aap ki dil-o-dimagh par agar Abu Talib se bughaz rakhna baith gaya hai to Allah se aap bhi dua karen or main bhi karta hoon ke Allah hum sub ko sidhi raah dikhiye. Aameen!!!

Mustafa bhai aap ka to kuch bhi contribution nahi hai. Aap ki posts agar unapproved ho rahi hain to aap ko kya faraq parta hai.

Brothers in islam!! Aap ke liye aik bahtareen saboot le kar aya hoon. Ke Abu Talib aap Rasoolallah (PBUH) ke wasilay se barish ki dua karte the. Agar Rasoolallah (PBUH) wasila hain to Dua kis se ho rahi hai. Zahir hai koi Laat-o-Uzza to hai nahi yakinan Allah hi hain. Please comments!!

100% theek hai. Hum sub or sari kayenaab Rasoolallah (PBUH) ki jutiyon ke sadkay ka rizq kha rahi hai. Magar Abu Talib ko zaeef hadison se kafir kah dena kahaan durast hai. Main ne pehle araz kiya ke Ali osi Abu Talib ki aulaad hi to hain jin ko or un ke 10 ayema or ahal-e-bait ko dushmanaan-e-ahal-e-bait ne shaheed kar diya. To kya ye wohi laug aisa nahi kar sakte ke Hadis ki kitabon main her pher kar den. Ye baat bhi sochain na ke jo Ali ® ka dushman hai kya wo aap Abu Talib ka dushman nahi hai? Please comments

Es topic ko bhi conclude rakhiye. Tamaam Sunni or Shiya dosto aik baat ghaur se suno. Wo Ali hi hain jin ki aulaad main 10 imamo or others ahal-e-bait ko shaheed kar diya gaya. Un ke baap ko kafir likh dene kaunsi mushkil baat hai. Rasoolallah ne 53 saal tak aap Abu Talib ka namak khaya. Halankay wo kisi kafir ka tohfa kabool hi nahi karte the. Yeh ahal-e-bait ke dushman hi hain jo abhi bhi ahal--e-bait pe apna zehar ugal rehe hain. Please comments!!

Moderator Sahib/Sahib!! Aap wada kijiye na yahaan se koi shiyya bhagay ga or na sunni. Sub ko apni apni baat karni or sunani pare gi. Kahain to kasam daal doon.