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or janab mujhe to aap ki dalail dekh kar yeh samajh nahi aa rahi k aap yeh pesh kar k sabit karna kia chahte ho.Qarein karam nein dekha k hum nein Huzoor Purnoor Sallalaho Alaih e wasalam k noor hone ki dalail k anbar laga diye .lekin janab hanfi Muslim sahib aap nein kia kiya woh ayat pesh kar di jin par hum mein or aap mein itfaq hai or janab mujhe lagta hai k aap nein is masla ko abhi tak samjha hi nahi hai aap nein yeh daleel pesh karni hai k Huzoor noor nahi hai .lekin main nein aap ka article para mujhe kahi nahi dikha k aap nein koi aysi aik bhi daleel pesh ki ho.or janab aap nein hamara ulma k buhat se hawale diye or na jaane saath kia kia naare lagaye Jaado jo sar char kar boley wagaira wgaira o bandey kia ho gya tujhe to hum se munazra to karne agya lekin pehle hamara is masle par aqeedah to parh leta yeh poori kitab chapne se kuch nahi ho ga .yehi wahi baatein hain jin k jawab hamare ulma barso se dete aye hain.yaar kabhi to gor kar.tum nein hamare ulma k kai hawale diye k dekho tumhari kitabo mein likha hai nabi sirf bahsar hi ho sakta hai etc janab hum bhi yehi kehte hai k Logo ki hadayet k liye nabi ka bashar hona zaroori hai .lekin Huzoor Purnoor is dunya mein hamari islah k liye bashri labas mein aye hain .kiun k nabi k liye bashar hona zaroori hai .woh hai hqeeqat mein Allah Azawajal k Noor. aap meri baat sun ley shayed k meri baat teri dil mein utar jaye .aye bandey main tera dushman nahi bulkey tera wellwisher hoon aa haq jaan ley haq man ley.abh haq ko nahi mane ga to kabh mane ga .yaar koi aik daleel to pesh kar dey k Huzoor sallalaho Alaih e wasalam noor nahi hai.suraj magrib se talo ho sakta hai lekin tum aik bhi aysi daleel nahi la sakte jis mein likha ho k Huzoor Sallaho Alaih e wasalm noor nahi hai.

sabh suniyo ko janab Saajid khan sahib (Hanfi Muslim) aapny dawa to kar diya lekin dalail pesh nahi ki kia main wajah poch sakta hoon. Masla Noor o BAshar k waqt hume kuch baate zehan mein rakhni chahiye k hum mein or aap mein ikhtalaf kis baat ka hai phir is masle ko sahi tareekey se samjha ja sakta hai. aap or hum is baat par mutafik hain k Huzoor Sallaho Alaih wasalam bahsar hai . lekin hum dono mein ikhataf is baat ka hai k hum kehte hai k Huzoor Afzalul Bashar honey k saath saath Noor bhi hai or aap kehte ho k woh noor nahi hain. lekin aap nein jo apne article mein dalail k tor par jo ayat pesh ki hai un par to hum mutafik hai kiun k hum bhi mante hai k huzoor bashar hai.is liye aap woh apne aqeeday ko sabit karne k liye Huzoor Sallahao Alaih e Wasalam ki noor na hone ki koi daleel pesh karo na k bashar honey ki kiun k Huzoor k bashar honey par to hum or aap mein itfaq hai. is liye aap ka farz banta hai k aap apna aqeedah sabit karne k liye Huzoor Sallah Alaih e wasalam ki noor na hone ki koi daleel pesh karo . or hum Huzoor k noor hone ki daleel pesh karte hai . umeed hai k aap ko yeh tajveez achi lagio hogi.

Jazakallah khera nice reply

janab topic bananey ki kia zaroorat hai isi par baat karte hai?kia khiyal hai?

janab peer2009 sahib mujhe bhi pata hai k aap deobandi se Sunni brailvi nahi baney ho.main nein rujoo ka lafz is aitraz par istamal kiya hai k aap is nein is aitraz se rujoo kar liya hai.or janab aap ki sabh baato ka jawab Khalil Rana Sahib k oper wale article mein moujood hai .meri aap se guzarish hai k agr aap k kisi sawal ka jawab main nein nahi diya to mujhe bataye inshallah azawajal aap ko aap k sawal ka jawab diya jaye ga.

kia koi mujhe koi bata sakta hai k DAwateislami k tamam fatwas kaha se dekhey jaate hain or is ka jawab kaisa milta hai .fatwa hasil karne ka tareeqa kia hai?

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Nice Pictures Jazakallah khera

bhai aap nein pocha hai k inko itna paisa kaha se milta hai ? is k jawab mein main yehi kaho ga k jahan se in k Hakeem ul umat ko 600 rupey milte they wohi se aaj in ko dollar $ pond e.t.c milte hai

bhai yeh to man gaye k Sabz imama jayez hai khawan ma khawan itne replies karwaye apna time bhi zaya kiya or hamara bhi .lekin aik baat hai to mujhe buhat achi lagi k peer2009 nein rujoo kar liya warna main nein to buhat hi hat dharm or zidi deobandi dekhey hai jo k saboot dekh kar bhi nahi mante .mere khiyal se abh yeh topic clear ho chuka hai .or is topic se yeh sabir ho chuka hai sabz imama pehnna jayez hai . A|llah sabh logo ko haq par chalne ki tofeek dey Ameen

janab peer2009 sahib aap taha ali ko to jante hi hogaye.jo abh yehan se farar ho chhuka hai or buhat beizati karwa kar gya hai.us nein aik ,martabah Ala Hazrat ko angrezo ka ajent sabit karne ki nakam koshish ki thi jis ka mon tor jawab Asif bhai nein diya tha.jis topic mein yeh debate hoi thi us ka link main aap ko dey raha hoon usey shoro se lekar akhir tak parho haqeeqat aap k samne ho gi.Or janab aap ko kis nein keh diya k main aap k forum se bagha hoon main pehle bhi keh chuka hoon k main aap k forum par debate k liye gya tha lekin jabh waha gaaliyan k siwa kuch nahi m,ila to main nein aap k frum ko Allah Hafiz kaha or Allah se yeh duaa ki k Aye Allah in ko hiayet dey.or janab banda bhagta tabh hai jabh us nein koi topic shoro kiya ho or us ka jawab diye baghair waha chala jaye jaise taha e.t.c is topic ko aap parho sabh dood ka dood or paani ka paani ho jaye ga. http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?showtopic=6545

peer2009 sahib chalo aap yeh to mane k Sabz imama Pehnna jayez hai .yeh aik achi baat hai k aap nein mana k sabz imama Pehnna jayez warna khawajah jaise log aitraz to kar detey hai lekin agr us ka jawab mil jaye to rujoo nahi karte.Allah Unhe Hidayet dey Ameen. acha janab peer2009 sahib mere khiyal se abh is topic par baat karne ki koi wajah nahi rehti .Is liye is topic par abh behas nahi ho gi or jabh aap Ameer e Ahle sunnat par lagaye gaye ilzam k saboot ikhatey kar lo to unko aik new thread mein likhna kiun k yeh topic abh clear ho gya hai .Umeed hai k aap meri baat ko samjh gaye ho gaye.

Janab Peer 2009sahib main apna point Khalil Rana Sahib k tawasul se rakh raha hoon .or mujhe umeed hai abh baat topic par hi hogi.

janab hum nein oper aap k ulma se likhi gayi kitabo se aap k ulma ko angrozo k agent or tarafdar sabit kiya hai.lekin aap nahi mano gay kiun k abhi aap nein apne forum ka chashma uttara nahi hai.jabh aap apne forum ka tassub se bharpoor chashma uttaro gay nahi tabh tak aap kuch hasil nahi kar sakte.yeh meri aap k liye aik choti se tajveez hai.

Janab Peer2009 sahib abh main aap ko yeh batanae k liye dobara post kar raha hoon k aap ko saboot kin cheezo k pesh karne hain ta key baat waizah ho jaye. aap ko jo saboot pesh karne hain unm ki tarteeb yeh hai. 1.aap ko yeh saboot pesh karna hai k Ameer e Ahle Sunnat nein 40 din tableegi jamat k saath lagaye. 2.Aap ko yeh saboot pesh karna hai k Ameer e Ahle Sunaat Jaro becha karte they.(kiun k aap nein kaha hai is liye saboot mang raha hoon ) or janab agr ho sake to zara time bata detey k kitne din lag sakte hai aap ko yeh mowad ikhata karne mein.umeed hai k aap buhat jald Hazir ho gaye or janab sabz imama Shareef par aap baat kar sakte ho kiun jo topic hai hume us par bhi baat karte rehna chahiye. Allah Hafiz

Janab abh aap nien time manga hai to hum dey rahe hai or plz abh jabh aap aye to poore saboot saath ley kar aye is tarha na kijiye ga jaisa k aap nein abh kiya ilzam aap nein laga diya lekin saboot k waqt aap time man rahe ho.inhi wajohat ki bana par threads close hoti hai k agr saboot k baghair hamare ulma k khilaf kuch kahe ga to hume gusa to aye ga hi na.or abh aap nien keh diya k aap buhnat jald saboor pesh karo gaye to isi liye abh is ko band nahi kiya jaye ga.aap be fikar ho kar saboot laye.

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thanks for apreciation

thanks for apreciation

yaar abh tum mujhe hansne par majboor kar rahe .tum baar baar 23 number post ka hawala dey rahe ho halankey main nein us ka jawab apni 24 mein de diya tha .agr tumhe lagta hai k main mein 23 wali post ka jawab nahi diya to aap us ki nishandahi kar do k bhai aap nein meri is baat ka jawab nahi diya .tu main jawab deney k liye tiyar hoon .ok abh sabz imama k hawale se hi yeha baat hogi.or janab is topic ko band nahi kia jaye ga inshallah lekin aap hamari baato ka jawab bhi to do hum nein oper aik book ka link diya hai us k jawab dena hai to do .agr aap us ka reply nahi kar sakte to mere bhai pehle aap mouwad ikhata kar lo phir yeha aa kar debate kar lena .agr aap ko time chahiye to hum woh bhi dene k liye tiyar hain.aap jitna time chahiye hum se man lo tabh tak hum aap ka intazar karne ko tiyar hai .umeed hai k aap ko meri yeh tajveez passand aye gi.

Offfff mere khudaya aaj tak is tarha k bandey se baat nahi hoi kher Agr to isi mein razi hai to tera yeh banda is ko jawab deta rahega k sheyd meri koi baat is k dil mein uter jaye.Ya Allah apne Habeeb k waseela main tujh se duaa mangta hon k is bandey ko tang nazri se bacha or zid or hat dharmi se bcha haq samjhne ki tofeek ata farma. jee peer2009 sahib abh aata hoon k aap k jawab k taraf janab kaha 23 post par chale gaye ho .janab us post mein maine aap ki baato ka jawab diya .or post number 30 par meri aap se sabz imam e par baat ho rahi main nien aap se aik sawal kiya tha aap nein us ka abhi tak jawab nahi diya.kia main poch sakta hoon k aap nein mere sawal ka jawab kiun nahi diya? or aik or baat aaap nein Ameer e Ahle Sunnat par aik ilzam lagaya k unho 40 din tableegi jamat k saath lagaye hain jis ka saboot maine aap se manga hai lekin aap ho k us baat ko chor kar koi dosara saboot dhond rahe ho.janab mujhe abhi sirf or sirf is ilzam ka saboot or30 post mein kiye gye sawal ka jawab chahiye.yehi topic hai hamara .Allah se duaa hai k aap ka agla reply topic se related hi ho. Allah Hafiz

Janab pehli baat woh yeh k aap k hansne se mujhe koi dil azari nahi hoi .hansa bhi zindagi k saath hi hota hai main nien aap se yeh kaha tha k agr mere hansne se aap ki dil azari hoti hai to aap ki hansne se bhi to kisi ki dil azari hiti hogi. or rahi baat jaarho bechne ki to mere bhai pehle saboot lao yeh kia baat hoi k raanchor line ja kar poch lo .aap k aap ko waziah saboot hai to pesh karo warna sabz imama jo topic hai us par raho or agr aap ko Ameer e Ahle Sunnat k baare mein koi thread banana hai to aap poore sabooton k saath new thread banao inshallah agr saboot sahi howe to aap ka thread na to close kiya jaye ga or nahi delete.or agr aap nein bila daleel un k baare mein kuch galat kaha to aap ko is par infraction bhi mil sakta hai .agr aap ko yeh shart manzoor hai to banai new thread. or abh plz topic par raho.

Janab peer2009 sahib munfqat ki had hoti hai .kuch replise mein tum nein kaha k hansne se dil azari hoti hai or khud tum ham par hans rahe ho.yeh to wohi baat hoi k meetha meetha hap hap karwa karwa tho tho. abh janab aap ko koi baat karni hai to karo warna mein admin se keh kar yeh topic close karwa donga.main nein tumhe kaha tha k Ameer e ahle sunnat par tum nein jo ilzam lagaya hai us ka saboot pesh karo lekin tum intne dheet ho k baat ko badal rahe ho .or janab abhi kuch replies pehle main nein tumhe kaha tha k topic par baat karo or tum nein kaha tha k acha to abh topic par hi baat hogi .lekin 2 reply nahi guzre k apni adat se majboor ho kar phir topic se bagh rahe ho.is liye plz topic par reh kar baat karo warna yeh topic close kar diy ajaye ga.or phir tum shor na machana k yeh kiun kia etc.