Abdur Rehman

Hazrat aap nay farmaya aap nay malysia daikha hai waha 100% wahabi hain tu zara links pay ghour farmaiey ya phir Malysia mai 100% wahabi Meelad bhe manatay hain aap kay khayal mai.. Proof aur wo bhee Amali aap ki farmaish pay aap kay leay chand mazeed tohfay paish hain zaror bil zaror daikheay yei links aur bar bar daikheay kay arab turk malysian kurdish sab apnay Nabi alaislam ka Meelad e pak manatay hain ab aap he bata dain yei sab Ahlesunnat wal jamat hain ya 100% wahabi. Makkah Sharif: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEnn8l87g4U Jeddah: Malysia: Misar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEkdSDou9FQ&NR=1 Iraq: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi3tnFQaoPM Turkey: Kurdistan: Kenya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VjuoH81Kt8

Nauman Sahab Aap ka muda'aa kia hai wo sada aur aasan zaban mai bayan kar dain takay sab ko aap ki asal baat samghnay mai aasani ho. aap nay pahlay kaha sab sahee hain kia pata kaun si hadith ka inkar ho jaiay aik ka inkar karnay say laiken aap ki post mai attached pages say tu lagta hai roaiy sukhan sirf barelvi ulema ki taraf he hai aur Ahlesunnat barelvi ulema ki samgh pay ilme deen hadith dani arabi zaban pay maharat waghaira pay aaitaraz hai aur shayad aap guman kar bhaithay kay Ahlesunnat wal jamat say hat kar barelvi koi naya farqa hai jo hind o pak mai aijad howa tu aisa hargiz tha na hai aur na he Ulema Bareli nay koi aqida koi amal koi bhee cheaz Islam mai apni samgh say shamil kari hai . Nabi pak alaislam say , sahaba kiram rizwanullah ajameen say Tabaeen say jo deen seena ba seena nasal dar nasal muntaqil howa 1400 sal say jo mazhab Ahlesunnat wal jamat ka hai Bareli ulema ka bhee wohi mazhab hai wohi aqeeda wohi mamolat hain na kuch kam na kuch ziada. Arab o Ajam mai saray Aalam mai Alhamdulillah Ahlesunnat wal jamat ki aksariyat thee , hai aur hamaisha rahay gee inshaAllah azzawajal Harmain Sharifain ho ya dosray arab mumalik ya ghair arab mumalik Alhamdulillah Ahlesunnat nay kabhee kisi zalim aur jabir hakomat kay khauf say jhot ko sach nahe kaha aur na haq ko haq kahna chora hai na wo chorain gain. Uswa e Shabbiri raziAllahoanhu hamaisha say ulemae haq kay sar ka taj hai. Aur rahee arab ghair arab ki baat tu shayad aap bhol gaiay kay dunya e islam ki bayshumar mayanaz hastiya ajami theen kia aap sirf arab na honay ki waja say un ki ahamiyat aur deeni liaqat say inkar kar dain gain?? halakay un kay waqt mai baray baray arab ulema un kay aagay ba adab shagird ban kay bhaita kartay they. Ghouse Azam Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jeelani , Imam e Azam Abu Hanifa , Imam Ghazali , Imam Bukhari, Imam Rumi , Mujaddid Alif Sani aur dosray bayshumar ulema aur auliya rahmatullah aalihim ajmaeen kay baray mai aap ka kia khayal hai jo ghair arab thay aur kitnay he aisay kay jin ki parwarish bhee arabi tahzeeb aur arabi bolnay walay mahool mai nahe howi balkay unhoo nay arabi zuban seekh kar baray baray nasli arabi dano ko hairan kar dia. un kay waqt mai baray say baray paidaishi taur pay arabi zuban bolnay walay un kay aagay adab say sir jhukatay aur aaj tak baray say bara aalim un ki aahamyat say inkar nahe kar sakta? is leay Haq aur Batil ka mayar zuban nasal arab aur ghair arab nahee Shariyat e Islam say wabastagi hai. aur rahee baat Haq aur Batil ko phaichany ki tu Insan kay dil mai sachi justajo hu tu Allah azzawajal us ki talab ko kabhee zaya nahee farmata magar jo is ka khud talib na khud sachai ki talab na karay tu Allah azzawaal baynayaz hai khud Allah azzawajal ka farman e aalishan hai kay Allah azzawajl fasiqo ko hidayat nahee farmata par jo bhalai ki taraf aanay ki justajo karay Allah azzawajal usay 1 qadam kay badlay 10 qadam sachai kay qareeb farmata hai aur usay deen ki samagh ata farmata hai. Ab pahlay sidq e dil say apnay aap ka khud jaiza lai kia aap waqai janna chahtay hain kay haq kia hai aur batil kia hai kia aap kay dil mai yehi tarap hai ya nahee inshaAllah jab yei tarap hogee tu Allah azzawajal shahrag say ziada qareeb hai aur jis ka hami o nasir Allah azzawajal aur Us kay Habib alaislam hoon wo sach jhot ki phaichan bari asani say kar laita hai aur haq aur batil ko foran phaichan laita hai. Allah azzawajl kay Rasul alaislam ka farameen ka mafhoom hai kay Momin aik sorakh say do bar nahe dasa jata aur Momin Allah azzawajl kay noor say daikhta hai. aik sada sa usool yad rakhain Ba adab Ba naseeb Bay adab Bay naseeb

JazakAllah Sybarite bhai. and i agree with sag e Attar bhai that muslimah123 should start to the point discussion and reply to Sybarite bhai

First of all you must realize by now that we are Ahlesunnat wal jamat, Barelvi is not any group or sect . we are named and identified as barelvis to be distinguished from Deos who also pronounce themselves as Ahlesunnat wal jamat Hanafi. You can research about the beleieves of Ahlesunnat wal jamat all around the world and compare them with believes of Ahlesunnat of Indo-pak ie Barelvis and that of Deobandis you will know yourself who is who and what is what. If you are living out of Indo-Pak, specially in Uk you have a fantastic chance to know the real difference between Ahlesunnat wal jamat and Deobandi Wahabis as you can look around and find Muslims from various nations Arabs , Africans , Turks etc. Talk with those who have some knowledge about their religion ask them about their believes and rituals and inshaAllah majority of them will be Ahlesunnat wal jamat having identical believes as of Ahlesunnat wal jamat in Indo-Pak known as Barelvis. Providing scanned images from the original disputed books, as an undeniable proof is altogether a different thing. The problem with copy paste is that you are borrowing word of mouth from others and not actually spending time to know and learn for yourself If you do want to know what Ahlesunnat wal jamat believe you should read and learn from their literature and then if you have any objection you are more then welcome to raise that issue if its not being discussed already in forum (try searching before you post)

There is no difference between Wahabia - Ghair Muqallad or Wahabia - Muqallad aka Deobandis they both have same mission, same ideology , they are offsprings of same person - Abdullah ibne Ubai and they have inspiration from the same source - ibne Abdul wahab. Wahabia movement was not very succesful because they came all out and openly declared all muslim kafirs and it became very easy to recognize their true face and even the word wahabi became an abuse; therefore it was decided to find out another way of fulfulling wahabi agenda , to carry out the same mission , to infuse the same satanic poison but in a well coated capsule this time . Deobandi camp was set up, with the idea of fooling ordinary muslims by disguising as Hanafis and Sufis so they can easily approach ordinary muslims yet fulfilling the old wahabia satanic mission of depriving muslim masses of their Iman. Deobandis -the wolves in the sheep's disguise- are even worst munafiqs then wahabia and are more dangerous, as by disguising themselves as Sufis and beleiving in Sufi chains and all such things they made it easier for themselves to reach innocent sheeps of Prophet's alaislam herd. First you were advocating Wahabis and objecting on their refutation by Ahlesunna and now you are outraged by finding out that deobandis are also wahabis in the disguise of sufism and all that. as Brother Sage Attar pointed out your so called uleams themselves proudly confessed in their books that they are very stubborn and inflexible wahabis and that wahabi is a name for follower of true islam And these Gangohi , Nanotvi , Thanvi were not made kafir by anyone else they themselves committed kufr by writing such sentences in their published and publicized books and after numerous warnings and calls for explaination, they were declared kafir and gone out of fold of Islam; this fatwa was signed and endorsed by hundreds of top ulemas from Indo-pak and Harmain Sharifain. One can purchase their books and read with ones own eyes what they had written in their books, even a child with little understanding of Islam will say lanatulllah alal kazibeen. The heart that has love of Allah azzawajal and Last Prophet alaislatowaTaslem can not have love and respect for those who said , wrote and propagated such satanic ideas and made their way different than that of mainstream Islam.

verses 8-10 of chapter 2 - Al Baqra And some people say, 'We have believed in Allah and the Last Day' yet they are not to believe. They seek to deceive Allah and the believers, and in fact, they deceive not but their own souls, and they perceive not. In their hearts is a disease, so Allah has increased their disease and for them is a painful torment, the recompense of their lies. and verses 1-6 of chapter 63 Al Munafiqoon When the hypocrites come to you, they say, 'we bear witnesses you are undoubtedly the Messenger of Allah, and Allah knows that you are His Messenger. But Allah bears witness that the hypocrites are most surely liars. They have taken their oaths as shield and they kept back from Allah's way, undoubtedly, they are doing most vile works. This is so because, they believed with their tongues, then disbelieved with their hearts, therefore a seal has been set over their hearts, so now they understand nothing. And when you see them, their bodies seem pleasing to you, and if they speak, you listen to their speech attentively. They as though they were wooden beams fixed to a wall. They take every cry over themselves. They are enemies, therefore beware of them. Kill them Allah; whither are they perverting? And when it is said to them, 'come, that the Messenger of Allah may ask forgiveness for you, they turn their heads aside, and you see them that they turn aside their faces waxing proud. Equal it is for them whether you ask forgiveness for them or not, Allah will never forgive them. Undoubtedly, Allah guides not the disobedients. the verse 29 of chapter 48 Al Fath "Mohammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are hard against the infidels and tender among themselves you will see them bowing and prostrating themselves in prayer seeking grace of Allah and His pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the traces of prostrations This description of their is in Taurah and their description is in Enjeel, as a cultivated field which puts forth its sprout, then strengthened it, then it became thick, then stood straight upon its stem, it looks pleasant to the cultivators that through them the hearts of the infidels may burn. Allah has promised unto those of them who are believers and do good, forgiveness and a great reward." and with verses 175-176 of chapter 7 Al aaraf "And O beloved Prophet! Relate to them the story of him to whom We gave Our signs then he stepped away clearly from them, then Satan followed him and he became of the misguided. And if We had willed, We would have lifted him on account of Our Signs, but he, clung to the earth and followed his desires, then his condition is like a dog, if you attack him, he brings his tongue out and if you leave him, he brings his tongue out. This is the condition of those who belied Our Signs. So you recount them the admonition haply they may ponder" and verses 43-44 of chapter 25 Al Furqan Have you seen him who has taken as his god his own desire? Will you then take the responsibility of being a guardian over him? Or do you think that most of them hear and understand? They are not but like cattle, nay, but they are worst astray from the path. After reading the above verses from Quran please try to think What is Nafaq? and how should we treat Munafiqeen? Are we suppose to be kind and gentle wiith Munafiqs; those who use foul language for Allah subhanowatala and His beloeved Prophet ?? those who disrespect our beloved and exalted Prophet alaislalato wasslam. What do you know about wahabia and their history? do you consider them Muslim or Munafiq? And last but not least read these verses and see how Quran describes those who disrespect Allah's beloved Prophet alaislatowasslam Verses 1 - 16 of chapter 68 Al Qalam By the pen and by that which they (angels) write. You are not. by the grace of your Lord, mad. And certainly, for you there is an endless reward. And undoubtedly, you possess excellent manners. Then now you shall soon see and they shall also see; As to which of you was caught with madness. Undoubtedly, your Lord knows well him who goes astray from His path, and He knows well those who are guided. Therefore, hear not the words of the beliers. They desire that any how you should be appeased then they too would be appeased. And hear not any such one who is a big swearer the mean. One who taunts a lot, going around with slander. Forbidder of good, transgressor, sinful. Ill-mannered, and moreover his birth is faulty. This is because he possesses some wealth and children. When Our signs are recited to him, he says 'stories of the ancients'. We shall soon brand upon his swine like snout. wasslam

Walaikum asslam inshaAllah yei aaitarazat yaha kafi maujood hai baki sab bhe inshaAllah zaror aik jaga jama kar deay jaiay gain aur yei kam jari hain Alhamdulillah

JazakAllah khair Sag e Attar bhai , Madaih Alahazrat kay baray mai jawab bhe Alahazrat pay aaitaraz kay jawabat wali kitab mai maujood hai in sha Allah insaf pasand loago kay leay tashaffi baksh hai

Asslam alaikum ooper wali baat mai mazeed add karna chaho ga kia koi in kitabo kay baray mai fatwa share kar sakta hai maslan Roohe Alahazrat ki faryad, Madaih Alahazrt, Swanah Alahazrat, Fawaid Fareedia , Naghma Rooh aur aisi jo kitabain Ahlesunnat ki taraf mansoob ki jati hain. wasslam

Wahabi mautariz ka kahna hai kay (see attached pages above) yei kitab roohe alahazrat ki faryad nahe balkay Swanahe Alahazrat nami kitab hai jis ka musannif badr ud din nami bataya haii shayad chapter anware Raza is baray mai jawab anayat farmaiay kay yei kitab kis ki hai aur ulema Ahlesunnat is baray mai kia kahtay hain.

Asslam alaikum As usual jab aaitaraz karnay kay baad us ka jawab daikh kay wahabiyo ki neandain ur jati hain tu wo naya jhot tarash laitay hain mujhay aap sab kay qeemti waqt ki qadar hai laiken sirf is leay kay un kay saray jhotay aitarazat aur Ahlesunnat kay jawabat jama ho jaiay takay koi bhe sunni jab koi naya jhot aur mukre shaitani daikhay tu usay mudallal jawab (khususan online) dhondhnay mai dushwari na ho aur aasani say search kar sakay is niyyat say mai un kay saray aitarazat yaha post karta raha ho aur aainda bhe karo ga inshaAllah takay wo sab aitarazat aur Ahlesunnat kay jawabat islami mehfil mai maujood ho inshaAllah Yei Aaitarazat unho nay ghaliban Roohe Alahazrat ki faryad nami kitab say leay hain jo mangharat aur baybunyad hai aap hazrat is kitab aur writer waghaira kay baray mai jo maloomat aur jawab ho wo share karain inshaAllah

Mai nay socha kisi naiay puranay deobandi wahabi ko mazeed inkar aur bahas ki zahmat na uthani pary aur munafiqat kay taboot mai akhri keel bhee thoank dee jaiay lahaza deobandiyo ka markaz aur mahwar say he fatwa mil gaya deobandiyo sharam karo aur dub maro .. is fatway mai deobandi mufti saf Allah azzawajal kay leay jhot jaisi burai ko mumkin man raha hai aur yei bhe man raha hai kay aisa ghaleez aqeeda fatna phailnay ka bais hai lahaza awam ka samnay bayan nahe karna chaheay

As usual asal kuch hai aur wahabi drama kuch aur...

Alhamulillah phichlay 2 aitarazat jo post keay thay mai nay Ahlesunnat ki taraf say us kay dandan shikan jawab kay baad wahabiyo ko koi jawab nahe mil saka tu mazeed 2 aur aitaraz kar deay Us kay aitarazat kay jwab mai Quran o hadith say aur ulema ki bayshumar kitabo say saboot deay gaiy tu jawb mai kahta hai "From last few years the many books has been edited by Barailve ulamas and if you want to see the original printed old books I will give you the address you can check with your self" aur yei darj zail naiay aitaraz kar deay is leay baraiay Madina is kay jawab bhe jald az jald dai dain .Mujhay tajurba hai kay wahabiyo ko lakh samghao wo sun kay nahe daitay kay dil mai bughze Nabi salalahoaliwasslam ki aisi bimari hai jo Allah barhata rahta hai kay apnay guman mai bhataktay rahain. Allah har nafees qalb ko hidayat day aamin.

Allah aap sab ko jazaaiy khair ata karay aur ilam o amal mai barkat day dunya aur aakhirat ki har bhalai naseeb karay aur shar say mahfooz rakkhay aamin

Subhan Allah Khalil Rana bhai wa jazakalaho khair amin

Deo/Wahabiyo ki taraf say malfoozat sharif ki aik ibarat par (see attached file) , munarja zail aitaraz kia gaya hai kay: Aaitaraz : I am surprised What does it means and can Allah not do that (Naoozu Billah)? http://library.faizaneattar.net/Books/index.php?id=101 go to page 73

Alhamdlillah mujhay online malfozat sharif say poora waqia tu mil gaya hai asal kia tha aur in wahabiyo nay kia bana dia kisi nay yei aaitaraz mairay bhai ko email kia tha is leay hawala tu mil gaya hai alhamdlillah kisi kay pass scanned page ho tu wo post keajay ga inshaAllah aur koi bata sakta hai hadika nadya kis ki tasneef hai Read/Downlaod Malfoozate Alahazrat raziAllah anho: http://library.faizaneattar.net/Category.p...g=Urdu&id=2 Link of the attached file http://library.faizaneattar.net/Books/index.php?id=101

Bariay Maharbani jald az jald jawab darkar hai ugar malfozat sharif say asal scan safha bhee mil jaiay tu subhanAllah

Inna lillahi wa inna elaihi raaji3oon

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SubhanAllah azzawajal

is shayari ka jawab shayari say he sun lu Aaizaaz yei hasil hai tu hasil hai Zameen ko Aflaak pay tu Gunbade Khadra nahee koiiii --- Baja tha Arsh pay Khake Mazare Pak ko naaz kay Tujh sa Arsh Nasheen aafariida Hona tha --- Tumharay Zarray kay partu sitar haiay Falak Tumharay Naal ki naaqes misal zia-aiy Falak --- Ham Khak hain aur Khak he Mawa hai Hamara Khaki tu wo Aadam Jade Aala hai Hamaara Allah hamain Khak karay apni talab main Yei khak tu sarkar say Tamgha hai hamara Jis khak pay rakhtay thay qadam Syede Aalam us khak pay qurban dil e shaaida hai hamara kham ho gaee pusht e falak is taa'an e zameen say sun ham pay Madina hai wo rutba hai hamara Us nay laqab e khak Shahanshah say paya jo Haider e karrar kay mola hai hamara aaiy Muddaiyo khak ko tum khak na samghay is khak mai madfoon Shah e Batha hai hamara hai khak say tameer mazar e shahe konain mamoor isi khak say qibla hai hamara ham khak uraiay gain jo wo khak na paiee aabad Raza jis pay Madina hai hamara