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Qaradawi Urges Gender Equality on Blood Money Sheikh Qaradawi said scholars of earlier times used to adopt gender equality on blood money By Farahat Al Abbar, IOL Correspondent DOHA, December 24 (IslamOnline.net) - Prominent Muslim scholar Yusuf al-Qaradawi pressed for gender equality on the amount of manslaughter blood money. Qaradawi said during a forum in Qatar's Supreme Council for Family Affairs on Wednesday, December 22, that there is no evidence backing that the compensation paid for mistakenly killing a woman should be half that for a slaughtered man. "No evidence in the Noble Qur'an supports such arguments on discrimination drawn between men and women in that regard." The prominent Muslim scholar, who is also head of the International Association of Muslim Scholars (IAMS), said earlier generations of scholars such as Ibn Alia and Al-Aasam used to pay equal blood money to compensate the families of those killed regardless of their gender. Not as Inheritance Sheikh Qaradawi further rejected that the blood money issue should be dealt with as that of inheritance - where women get half that offered to men of the legacy of their dead relatives. "Still, there are many inheritance cases in which women are paid equally as men." Sheikh Qaradawi refuted claims that men are paid double the amount presented to women due to men's responsibility for their families. "Islamic Shari`ah doesn't state this. Rather, we see a little kid is paid equally as to an old man, and a porter as a professor - with no discrimination whatsoever." Known for his moderate edicts and widely-respected views, Sheikh Qaradawi maintained that reconsideration of the women's share of blood money would be an honor for women. He called on the government of Qatar, where the Egyptian scholar now stays, to put his recommendation into action. Agreement Sheikh Qaradawi's call was welcomed by a host of prominent scholars attending the forum. Chief among them are Qatari participants Sheikh Abdul Kadir bin Muhammad al-Amari, the former deputy chief of the Appeal Court, professor Aisha al-Mannaa, the dean of the Shari`ah faculty of Qatar University, and her colleague professor Mohamed Othman Shber. Al-Mannaa said review of women's share of bloody money would be seen as an effort to promote women rights. Shber concurred, saying these days are completely different from earlier eras when opinions on women's blood money share were given. Salem Rashid al-Marrekhi, member of the national human rights committee in Qatar, hailed the scholars' stance on equalizing women's share of blood money as a boost of human rights in the Islamic world. "Human rights laws don't strike a difference between between males and females." Disagreement However, a cohort of Muslim scholars voiced opposition to equalizing men and women on the blood money share. "The four madhhabs (religious schools) have agreed on paying half share of blood money to women," said Saleh bin Jassem Al Muhanadi, head of the first class court. He urged to take into account men's financial burdens when tackling the issue of women's blood money share. "Men pay dowry and are totally responsible for their families, burdens that women are exempted of." More Studies Other Muslim scholars pressed for conducting more studies on the issue of women's share of blood money. Dr. Thaqeel bin Sayer al-Shamry of the Court of Cassation said the issue requires deep examination, warning against hasty decisions on what he calls a thorny territory. Shamry believed that scholars advocating equal blood money to men and women have used weak hadith (Prophet Muhammad's sayings). The forum comes following mounting calls to introduce amendments to the Qatari law on women's blood money share which states that families of killed women are paid half that to killed men as a settlement to potential disputes over the killings. The Supreme Council for Family Affairs which hosted the lecture was established in 1998 under the presidency of Sheikha Mozah bint Nasser Al-Misnad, Qatar’s First Lady. The Council has been a scene of several gatherings on family issues, latest of which was the Doha International Conference for Family , held on November 29-30.

Naah!! We'll keep you here (unless you go beyond the limits) as an exemplary in Tahiri's Hall of Shame to let the people witness a typical Tahiri's intellect!

As I already said once, Tahiris are funny! The reason for editing your post can be seen in that very edited post of yours, so there is no need to yell around that I edited your post. Every member, even a non-member can see that your post has been edited by me and the reason is already been given. I even highlighted it by writing CONTENT/LINK REMOVED, so it's not like I secretly edited your post. That deleted part of your post contained material from a non-sunni website affiliated to Dr. Padri and thus can't be posted here according to the rules. And besides that, you just posted Dr. Padri's Isnaad which doesnt justify him at all, so try to save your breath kid and try to get some answers. Now comes the funniest part. You've referred that editing done in your post as "amendment". Let's take a look what this amendment means. Merriam Webster (Dictionary): amendment 1 : the act of amending: CORRECTION Merriam Webster (Thesaurus): Meaning: a change designed to correct or improve a written work <the article as written requires only one factual amendment> — see CORRECTION Oxford Dictionary: amendment • noun 1 a minor improvement. Urdu: amended: ترمیم شدہ ۔ مرمعہ ۔ اصلاح شدہ ۔ So linguistically, this Tahiri buffoon accusing me of IMPROVING/CORRECTING his post.

First of all, dont cry about "freedom of speech" here. Consider your presence here as a privilege not a right! And even freedom of speech doesnt mean you can howl about lame stuff everywhere kid. You're just frustrated because you have nothing to defend your Padri now. All the lame emotional crap you've came up with so far has been denied and now when you find nothing to say in reply to that you're crying over freedom of speech! Typically Tahiri! It's not my fault if you don't know anything about etiquettes. See you dont even know what writing in CAPS mean! And you haven't done anything yet. All you did is copy+pasting stuff from Minhajian websites which is not allowed as per the rule of this community that links and stuff from websites affliated with Dr. Padri or any other deviant is prohibited. Your only source of information is Minhajian websites which we do NOT acknowledge at all, just as we dont acknowledge Deobandi/Wahabi websites. If you think you can answer, I've given you the simplest solution. You've pasted a long list of names who you think supports Dr. Padri. Then simply go, present Dr. Padri's views regarding Diyyat and get some officially signed and sealed verdicts in affirmation from those scholars. Can you do that kid? I even asked you some very very simple questions and still you cant answer them. Its like you probably tried to look for the answers on that same Minhajian website and that didn't help and thats why you're so frustrated. I can feel the agony! Anyways, I am done with you as I cant really babysit a crying Tahiri. I'll talk to you when you'll make some sense and have some answers.

This wasnt just a private message, its mandatory when you warn a member. Hope now you understand what it was. Why are we warning now? Make some sense and I'll try my best to reply. Don't we have enough courage to listen the truth?? We do have the courage, we are just waiting for you to come up with something logical and authentic. Not just that copy+pasted material from Minhajian websites. What are you going to do? Ban me from this forum? Please do so, Icame here to learn Islam not a sect, which is self centred, not willingto listen or read other scolars material. Whine more, I'd say! If we wanted to ban you, we would've done it by now. You deserved a warning and you had it, so you really don't need to cry about it at all. I already described why you came in here in another thread in General Section so don't need to reply the same crap again. And we are more than willing to listen your stance but not the lame copy+pasting. If you really wants to prove your stance, first prove us wrong. Prove the allegations raised against him as false. Just copy+pasting his Isnaads and the names of scholars who listens to him wont prove Dr. Padri's righteousness. My sincere suggestion is that you need to read all the allegations raised against him and their grounds. Then go look the Shariah rulings from a reliable and unbiased source. And when you find something which justifies him, present it here and then we'll discuss whether we did a mistake or you. This title has been given to him by Arab Scholars nd also Shah Khaki RA of Chakwaal. The title Dr. Padri has been given to him by the great-grandson of Imam-e-Ahle'Sunnah, Mujaddid-e-Deen-o-Millat, Imam Ash'Shah Ahmed Raza Khan, Huzoor Taaj'ush Shariah Hazrat Allama Moulana Mufti Akhtar Raza Khan al'Qadri al'Azhari, who has been recently awarded with the title of "Fakhr-e-Azhar" by the famous Al-Azhar University, been appointed & announced as Qaazi ul'Quzzat (Muslim Cheif Justice) of whole of India by Muhaddith-e-Kabir Hazrat Allama Mufti Zia ul'Mustafa Azmi sahib, about whome Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Aziz al-Khatib al-Hasani (the head of Ma’had at-Tahzeeb and the ‘Orator of Damascus’) said; "Akhtaru Sayyiduna wabnu Sayyidina which means ‘Akhtar is our master and the son of our master!'. This is a lot less than the very brief introduction with hundreds of names missing of those scholars of wrote poems in praise of Huzoor Taaj'ush Shariah. Feel free to ask for more!

Yet Dr. Padri love these Deobandis:lol: Try to spend more time with Sunnis than those "learned" Deobandis and everything will be fine . We use the term Padri as a simile, nobody declared him Kafir yet. The fatwa is of "Gumrahi" not of "Kufr". Use your brain but dont use it too much if you dont have in-depth knowledge of such matters. By this lame logic of yours, you're accusing Huzoor Taaj'ush Shariah and many other eminent scholars. I already suggested you once, think before you speak! Silence is way better than uttering crap.

First of all, stop running here and there. I just replied on another thread and rather than replying to my post you're creating topics in General Section! Is that how Tahiris gonna defend this Padri? What you're doing here is nothing but another lame try to deviate the core issue and running into circles to create mess and evade! And I really doubt your claim that you are for learning. Let's take a look at your activity. You've been most active in "Sullah-e-Kulliyat" section and regularly posting in threads which are meant to expose Dr. Padri. Even in General Section you're trying your best to defend Dr. Padri. See the thread regarding Ali Sher Haideri Deobandi where you irrelevantly tried to cover up Dr. Padri by your lousy political-peace speech! But again, thats only a doubt. Allah and his Mehboob knows better. You've quoted a hadith; "Jo Shakhas kisi baat ko baghair tehqeeq ke philata hai we shaitani amal karta hai." And then it's the same you who didnt even bother to write the complete reference. This shows how much "tehqeeq" you did about this hadith. Let me ask you a very simple question. Have you even read this hadith in the original book or just quoted it because you read it somewhere or heard it from Dr. Padri? And yet you accuse us! Great! You accused us that we are just posting Fatwas from Muftiyan-e-Kiram without even reading or listening to Dr. Padri. Firstly, a fatwa is a legal verdict in Shariah law, so think twice when you talk about Fatwas. Secondly, what do you know about Dr. Padri? I mean really! Show us your "tehqeeq" about Dr. Padri. Let me ask you something, that might help all the readers see your level of "tehqeeq". In 2002 Dr. Padri won in election (just 1 seat) by majority of votes from which group? Thats a very simple question and I hope you will answer it rather than creating another topic on some other section. This is not character assassination, and why in the world we have to do it anyways! You cant justify whats wrong just by making such emotional statements, so please save your strength. About listening to him, we never claimed that he always utters crap. But yeah he did in the past and so far he haven't repented and thus according to the Shariah law, scholars declared him "Gumrah" and it will stay this way till he repents. About Gosha-e-Durood, you asked how many sunnis do that? Seems like you spend more time with Wahabis than Sunnis. We the real sunnis don't need the count of our durood, we certainly don't need to use Durood as Marketing Tool (Nauzubillah). I believe Sunnis around the globe read durood all the time, durood is the only thing which wont be stopped even at the time of Qayamah, when there'll be no one alive to send Durood to Aqa-o-Maula but Allah(azw)! What Dr. Padri is doing is showing off the world that we Minhajians send this much durood! Whereas we sunnis never needed to show off, the world already knows and even some of them accuse of us that we send too much Durood on our Aqa . Then you said you know a lot of Sunni brothers who don't even offer Salat regularly and yet they call themselves Aashiq-e-Rasool(saw). No doubt they are wrong, but can you please provide us any references which proves that they cant call themselves Aashiq-e-Rasool(saw)? Remember, leaving namaz by shaytani wasawis or for any other reason, and then feeling guilty for doing so is another thing and simply ignoring namaz and considering it "no-big-deal" is another thing. If a man drinks alcohol all his life, you cant declare him Kafir unless he thinks of alcohol as permissible! So the thing is, even if one is not a regular namazi, he still can call himself an Aashiq-e-Rasool(saw). Now on the other hand, what you gonna call a person who call himself a Sunni and yet promotes the idea of Sunnis and Shias being one with all their diabolical beliefs? What you gonna call a person who says that the difference between Sunni and Shias/Deobandis etc are minor? Let me tell you, you twistheads call him Shaykh-ul-Islam. Then you asked us that how many of us read his books or listen to his lectures. I don't know about others, but I surely have read and listened more than you did so far. Now let me ask you a counter-question here. You've already been through the list of scholars who refuted Dr. Padri. How many of their lectures you've listened so far? How many of their books, especially those written in refutation of Dr. Padri have you read? 1, 2, 3.....none? Please give us some names. 1. He is the one who went against the Ijma regarding the Diyyat for Women. 2. He is the one promoted the idea of befriending with deviants like Deobandis/Shias. 3. He is the one who declared Siyasat-e-Muawiya as Fitna. 4. He is the one who has been refuted by his very own teachers. 5. He is the one who celebrated Christmas ritual with Christians. 6. He is the one who declared Khumaini's life & death as the life of Hazrat Ali(ra) and the martyrdom of Hazrat Imam Hussain(ra). (He used the word "marna" for Imam Hussain not "shahaadat") 7. He is the one who mingles with na'mehrams (ex. Benazir Bhutto) just for the sake of Politics & fame. 8. He is the one who declared modern-day Christians as "Believers", the same Christians who believe Hazrat Isa (Allaihe Salam) to be the son of God. 9. He is the one who declared that Sunnis can offer Prayers behind a bad'mazhab Imam. Now if he is a Sunni to you, then I guess this forum is not the place for you, even for learning as we don't offer crash-courses of deviancy! And you've been replied about the query regarding Criteria of Sunni with a counter-question. Lets see when you'll reply. But for your ease, let me put it simple for you. The one who disagrees with the Ijma is not a Sunni. Thats only 1 thing, and it can be seen in Dr. Padri. And lastly, you escaped by saying; I can go on and on but I have better things to do, therefore I wouldn't waste my time on this. Oh I know you can go on and on and on..... but you wont reply the queries been asked to you, neither will you ever reply with authentic material or logical explanations. All you've done so far is singing the peace song and copy+pasting material from Minhaji websites. Keyword; Hopeless!

First you got to prove that no one knows the names I quoted besides the Allama Saqib Shami and Ghazali-e-Zama Allama Kazmi sahib. If you don’t know anything about them then it’s your flaw but It doesn’t prove anything.Besides, you’ve been constantly crying over the criteria of Sunni, whats your criteria of Scholars? Is it really mandatory that every Sunni Scholar has to be known by YOU or else he is not creditable enough? Later you successfully exposed your Ilmi’auqaat by saying “…where as the names you have mentioned they never ever been outside their countries or even their Hujra's” What in the world traveling has to do with all this? I mean first of all, you claim that most of the scholars I’ve mentioned are unknown to you and then you claim to know so much about them that you even know they never ever been outside their countries or Hujra. Tahiris are funny! Let’s suppose you’re right and these scholars never stepped out of their countries or Hujra (which is not the case), but what does it proves anyways? Again, what traveling has to do with Islamic ruling? So far I haven’t seen any such Islamic ruling that a Mufti can’t become creditable enough unless he travels around the globe or so. Since when the audience count proves anything? I mean really! Zakir Naik also has a huge audience, should we consider him a righteous Muslim now? We are not talking about what he lectures, or where. Neither are we discussing his traveling details. We are talking about the disputed statements he made in his past. I can present you more names than you did, who listens to Dr. Padri, but again that doesn’t prove Dr. Padri to be righteous by any Shariah law. You’ve presented many names (the copied list from Minhaji site is deleted though). Let’s just take one of them to make it easy for you. Go and ask Shaykh Saeed as’Sagharjee about the ruling against the person who goes against the Ijma and then show us the actual signed and sealed verdict. Then we'll accept that Shaykh Saeed as'Sagharjee is in total affirmation with Dr. Padri's beliefs regarding “Diyyat”. Now it’s time to make a move and do something sensible rather than copying material from Minhaji websites and pasting them here. Later you asked about the criteria of Sunni and I would like you to present your criteria of Sunni first, as the person we’re discussing here considers Sunnis and Shias as ONE! So I think it’s you who should be telling us about the criteria of Sunni. WE didnt throw him out of Sunniyat. Dr. Padri himself uttered enough crap to prove himself a Gumrah. Muftiyan-e-Kiram and scholars simply judged him according to Shariah Law, and those who didnt and still attending his lectures and so, are possibly unaware of the Dr. Padri's diabolical statements. However I've already presented a simply and easy solution to figure this out. Present those statements to those scholars and get a signed and sealed verdict. You want references from his books and lectures. Well go through the forum again,we've already provided enough references. About the references from Newspapers and Magazines, you are no one to declare them fake/tempered. If you think all those newspaper and magazines lied about Dr. Padri then why didn't Minhajul Quran International do anything against them officially. For example, a couple of months ago, I uploaded a few videos on youtube exposing the real face of Dr.Padri. The videos contained Dr. Padri's photoshoped images and thus been deleted by youtube administration because of the complaints received from Minhajul Quran International. Thats how you deny things officially. But so far Minhajul Quran never refuted any of those reports from those Newspapers and Magazines. They responded so quickly when it came to the videos I uploaded, but its been years and there is no official denial from Minhajul Quran about those Newspapers and Magazines. So stop crying over this and use your brain. Then you want us to show you references from Qudwatul Awliya Syedna Pir Tahir Alaudding al'Gilani, Hazrat Pir Karam Ali Shah Sahib etc. This means you think of these Shuyookh as authentic. Now would you please let us know what Qudwatul Awliya Syedna Pir Tahir Alauddin al'Gilani said about praying behind deviants? Would you please let us know about the views of Hazrat Pir Karam Ali Shah Sahib, Moulana Noorani Miya regarding Deobandis and Shias? I'll wait for your reply over this. Let us all see how much you actually know about these eminent personalities. And at last the most lamest statement you made so far that; "these references are OK for Pakistani people". I don't know what made you say that (it's probably Padri's love) but you seriously need help! If these references are OK for Pakistani people then please tell us why they are NOT OK for people living outside Pakistan? I mean are you trying to say that Pakistanis are some kind of special Muslims or what? Whats the difference between the Iman of Pakistani Muslims and non-Pakistanis Muslims? I got a suggestion for you. Think before you speak.... PLEASE! Hope its enough for the day. Your later post will be replied soon , till then keep reading. Here I am quoting some "authentic" material regarding Christians and Jews and befriending with them. Surah Baqarah, verse 120 (2:120) 'And never the Jews and Christians will be pleasedwith you unless you follow their Din (creed). Say then! 'The guidance of Allah is the only guidance', (O listener who he may be) if you become follower of their desires, after the knowledge that has come to you, then no one will be your protector from Allah and no helper.(Kanz’ul Imaan) 'Never will the Jews be pleased with you, neitherthe Christians, not until you follow their creed, their religion, Say: ‘God’s guidance, that is, Islam, is the true guidance’,besides which there is only error. And if you were (wa-la-in: the lām is for oaths) to follow their whims, hypothetically speaking, [whims] to which they are calling you, after the knowledge, the Divine revelation, that has come to you, you shall have against God neither friend, to protect you, nor helper, to defend you against Him.(Tafsir-e-Jalalayn) '(And Jews) The Jews of Medina (will not be pleased with thee, nor will Christians) the Christians of Najran, (till thou followtheir creed) their religion and direction of prayer. (Say) O Muhammad! (Lo! The guidance of Allah is Guidance)the Religion of Allah is Islam and Allah's direction of prayer is the Ka'bah.(And if thou shouldst follow their desires) their religion and direction of prayer (after the knowledge which hath come unto thee) that the Religion of Allah is Islam and His direction of prayer is the Ka'bah, (then wouldst thou have from Allah) from His chastisement (no protecting friend) no one to benefit you (nor helper) to save you from this chastisement.(Tanwir-ul-Miqbas min Tafsir Ibn Abbas) Surah al’Maidah; verse 51 (5:51) ''O believer! Do not take the Jews andChristians as friends, they are friends of each other among themselves, and whoso of you makes them his friends, then he is one of them. Undoubtedly Allah guides not the people unjust. (Kanz’ulImaan) 'O you who believe, do not take Jews and Christians as patrons, affiliatingwith them or showing them affection; they are patrons of each other, being united in disbelief. Whoever amongst you affiliates with them, he is one of them, counted with them. God does not guide the folk who do wrong, by affiliating with disbelievers.(Tafsir-e-Jalalayn) '(O ye who believe!) in Muhammad and the Qur'an (Take not the Jews and Christians for friends) seekingtheir assistance and help. (They are friends one to another) He says: some are followers of the religion of others in secret and in the open, just as they are friends of each other. (He among you) O group of believers (who taketh them for friends) seeking their assistance and help (is (one) of them) in alliance and is not included in Allah's protection and safety. (Lo! Allah guideth not) to His religion and proof (wrong-doing folk) the Jews and Christians.(Tanwir-ul-Miqbas min Tafsir Ibn Abbas) 'Here Allah clearly discriminated Jews and Christians from the Believers. Surah Aal-e-Imran; verse 28 (3:28) 'Let not the Muslims takes infidels as theirfriends besides the Muslims and whosoever shall do that he has no connectionwith Allah, but this that have some fear of them; and Allah cautions you from His wrath; and unto Allah is there turn.(Kanz’ul Imaan) 'Let not the believers take the disbelievers aspatrons, rather than, that is, instead of, the believers — for whoever does that, that is, [whoever] takes them as patrons, does not belong to, thereligion of, God in anyway — unless you protect yourselves against them, as a safeguard (tuqātan, ‘as a safeguard’, is the verbal noun from taqiyyatan), that is to say, [unless] you fear something,in which case you may show patronage to them through words, but not in your hearts: this was before the hegemony of Islam and [the dispensation] applies to any individual residing in a land with no say in it. God warns you, He instills fear in you, of His Self, [warning] that He may be wrathful with you if you take them as patrons; and to God is the journey’s end, the return, and He will requite you.(Tafsir-e-Jalalayn) Surah Aal-e-Imran, verse 118 (3:118) ''O believers! Do not make strangers as your confidants; they leave no stone unturned in harming you. They yearn for what distresses you: Hostility appeared from their utterances and what they have concealed in their breasts is yet greater. We have made you hear Our signs clearly, if you have wisdom.(Kanz’ul Imaan) 'O you who believe, do not take as intimates, assincere friends, revealing to them your secret thoughts, anyone apart from yourselves, from among the Jews, Christians and the hypocrites; such men spare nothing to ruin you (khabālan is in the accusative because the preposition [that usually precedes it, sc. fī’l-khabāl]has been omitted), that is to say, they would not be remiss about corrupting you; they would love, they wish, for you to suffer ([al-‘anat means] extreme hardship). Hatred, enmity towards you, is revealed, it is manifested, by their mouths, by sowing discord among you and informing the idolaters of your secret[plans]; and what their breasts conceal, of enmity, is yet greater. Now We have made clear to you the signs, of their enmity; if you understand, this,then do not befriend them.(Tafsir-e-Jalalayn) We get the following points from the quoted verses; 1. Jews and Christians will never be pleased with you, not until you follow their religion. And the living example of this verse are those Christians who are pleased with Minhajians and Dr. Padri as they followed their religion by celebrating Christmas according to their customs. 2. Do not take the Jews and Christians as friends and the one who does, is one of them. Unless he do it for guarding himself from any possible danger from empowered Jews/Christians. In Kanz’ul Imaan this is declared to be a “Hukm-e-Aam”, however the verse revealed for a particular event. 3. Jews and Christians are not Believers. Whereas your Padri claims them to be Believers. The Christians believes Hazrat Isa (Allaihe Salam) to be the son of God. Trinity, the Christian belief that God is one Being made up of three distinct Persons who exist in co-equal, co-eternal communion as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Now take a look at Ahadith; Narrated Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man follows the religion of his friend; so each one should consider whom he makes his friend.(Sunan Abi Dawud, Book 41: Kitab-ul-Adab, Number4815) Narrated Ibn Abbas: As We sent down (the Scripture) on those who are divided (Jews and Christians)." (15.90) They believed in part of it and disbelieved in the other, are the Jews and the Christians. the Christians.(Sahih Bukhari, Kitaab-ut’Tafsir, Book 60, Number 229) 'Amr b. 'As reported: 'I heard it from the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) quite audibly and not secretly: Behold! the posterity of my fathers,that is, so and so, are not my friends. Verily Allah and the pious believers are my friends.(Sahih Muslim, Kitab-ul-Imaan, Bab’ Mawalatil Momineen, Number 0417) Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Umar expelled the Jews and the Christians from Hijaz. When Allah's Apostle had conquered Khaibar, he wanted to expel the Jews from it as its land became the property of Allah, His Apostle, and the Muslims. Allah's Apostle intended to expel the Jews but they requested him to let them stay there on the condition that they would do the labor and get half of the fruits. Allah's Apostle told them, "We will let you stay on thus condition, as long as we wish."So, they (i.e. Jews) kept on living there until 'Umar forced them to go towards Taima' and Ariha'.(Sahih Bukhari, Kitab-ul-Muza’raat,Number 531) Narrated'Aisha and Ibn 'Abbas: On his death-bed Allah's Apostle put a sheet over his-face and when he felt hot, he would remove it from his face. When in that state (of putting and removing the sheet) he said, "May Allah's Curse be on the Jews and the Christians for they build places of worship at the graves of their prophets." (By that) he intended to warn (the Muslim) from what they (i.e. Jews and Christians) had done.(Sahih Bukhari, Kitab-ul-Manaqib, Number 660) We learn that; 1. A man follows the religion of his friend, so one should be careful whom he makes his friend. 2. Christians and Jews believed some part of the scriptures sent down on them and disbelieved in some, and thus disbelievers. 3. Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Allaihe Wasallam) said that so and so (the disbelievers) are not my friends but Allah and the believers. 4. Hazrat Umar Farooq (Radi Allahu Anhu) forcibly expelled the Christians and Jews from Arab peninsula. 5. Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Allaihe Wasallam) said; "May Allah's Curse be on the Jews and the Christians for they build places of worship at the graves of their prophets" as they do Shirk by associating partners with Allah and that is disbelieving in the concept of Tawheed.

Nice! I mean really amazing. Thats kind of another smack on the face of Minhajians.

You need to get your eyes checked. Your queries has been replied, go read my last post.

Look around you Mr. Saqi. Dr. Tahir is not the only fitna we're dealing with here on this forum. Sorry to say but it wont work like, you jump out of nowhere and demands your qeuries to be replied instantly. If you can wait, good! If you cant, go lookout for the answers for yourself and dont forget to share the knowledge with us.

Saqi, You've presented your queries/views. Now I hope you can wait till I reply. So please stop repeating the lame queries in every other topic. You'll be replied soon enough so just hold your horses.

The hadith you're inquiring about is regarding the delegation from Najran. I’ve even seen Qadianis presenting this very event to justify their khalifah Mirza Masroor when he shook hands with Bishop Nazir Ali. Anyways lets take a closer look to that event. I am quoting Khazain-ul-Irfan here which tells the detail about this Najran delegation. Now the facts are; 1. That Christian delegation came to debate and were not invited to celebrate their religious festival. 2. That delegation chose to stay on their negative position towards Islam i.e considering Isa (Allaihe Salam) as the Son of God. 3. The disagreement in belief led to Mubahila and not to some unislamic celebration. Its evident that Huzoor didn’t invite those Christians to come over and stay at Masjid-e-Nabawi and offer their prayers. They came by themselves to discuss the beliefs regarding Hazrat Isa (Allaihe Salam). Now comes the important part. Huzoor allowed them to pray in Masjid-e-Nabawiand they did offer their prayers as per their own customs. If you look at the whole event and other reports from ahadith its evident that Huzoor allowed them to pray because they came to know about Islam and its beliefs and if they were not allowed to pray they would have gone back to Najran without knowing the truth about Islam. And for that, as a wise and humble approach to call them towards Islam Rasoolullah allowed them to pray. Byno means this can be used as a daleel to allow Christians of our time to pray in Masajid as per their own customs. Huzoor allowed them because there was no place else where they could've offered their prayers. Now is that the case with those Christians whom Dr. Padri invited? Ofcourse not! Christians do have churches in Lahore and around Pakistan! Moreover, if a Christian wants to learn about Islam in this era, he can just google it and will get a lot of basic information. He can even contact a scholar, even on the internet to get the information he want. Or he can visit a nearby Masjid. He certainly don’t need to offer his prayers as per Christian customs in Masajid to learn about Islam! And even look how Rasoolullah acted towards them. Rasoolullah told them the truth about Hazrat Isa (Allaihe Salam) that he is a Prophet of Allah and not the Son of God. They refused it and then later Rasoolullah even called them for Mubahila. That tells us that Muslims should be humble towards non-Muslims to call them towards Islam but should deny the unislamic beliefs openly. Whereas Dr. Padri enjoyed Christmas and didn’t say a word about Christian belief of Isa being the Son of God! Did he even said that we are celebrating the birth of the Prophet of Allah and NOT the son of God? No he didn’t! Dr. Padri enjoyed their company with all their diabolical beliefs! Did he ever visited Christians and then denied their unislamic beliefs with the details? NO! And about allowing them to pray in Masajid, did Rasoolullah(saw)allowed Christians to pray in Masajid generally? How many of the Ashaab-e-Kiram (Ridwanullahe Ta’la Allaihe Ajmain) invited Christians to come and pray in Masajid in the name of Peace or to call them towards Islam? None?? But we do see Hazrat Umar Farooq expelling the Jews and Christians from Arab peninsula. Now a little about celebrating Christmas. First the word “Christmas” which most of the people think as the “Birth of Jesus” but by definition it means “the Sacrifice of Jesus”! The World Book Encyclopedia defines “Christmas” as follows; The word “Christmas” comes from “Cristes Maesse”, an early English phrase that means “Mass of Christ”. Now Catholic Encyclopedia defines “Mass” as; Of these the most important is that the Church intends the Mass to be regarded as a "true and proper sacrifice" Fr. William G. Most defines “Mass” as “The Council of Trent taught that the Mass is the same as Calvary” “Since the Mass has the same external sign, and the same interior dispositions on the part of Christ, we rightly call it a sacrifice, the continuation of Calvary.” So saying Merry Christmas is more like saying “Merry sacrifice of Jesus”! And thus Dr. Padri who proudly did cut the cake which said “Merry Christmas”, isnt it kind of celebrating the death, the sacrifice of Jesus? Apart from what actually Christmas means, Minhajians says that its ok to celebrate Christmas as it’s the birthday of a Prophet i.e Isa (Allaihe Salam) and thus can be declared as Mawlid-e-Isa and can be celebrated by Muslims. Lame attempt I’d say! Very lame indeed!First of all, take a look at the date of Christmas. There is no evidence in Islam which proves 25th December to be the birthday of Isa(Allaihe Salam). Even Catholic scriptures has nothing definite about it! Yeah right! No definite record of Jesus's birthday in whole of Bible, however the origin goes back to Romans. December 25 was also the birthday of the more popular Roman god known as the "Unconquered Sun" Mithra (with whom Constantine identified himself before his conversion to Christianity), who was closely associated with Mithras. Rome converted this pagan legacy to a celebration of the god, Saturn, and the rebirth of the sun god during the winter solstice period. The winter holiday became known as Saturnalia and began the week prior to December 25th. A Christian writer admitted this in 320 AD, explaining: We hold this day holy, not like the pagans because of the birth of the sun, but because of him who made it. ("Christmas." Oxford Concise Dictionary of World Religions) Variations of this pagan holiday flourished throughout the first few centuries after Jesus Christ, but it probably wasn't until 336 AD that Emperor Constantine officially converted this pagan tradition into the "Christian" holiday of Christmas. Now comes another argument from Minhajians, the celebration of Mawlid regardless of the date as we the Muslims believe to celebrate Mawlid on any date. So it doesn’t matter if 25th December is the date of Jesus’s birth or not. Well we all know that Christians celebrate Christmas as what they believe to be the "day of the birth of God's Son" or what they call "God Incarnate".They don’t celebrate the birth of the Prophet, but the Son of God. And that is based on a belief that is totally against the fundamental teachings of Islam i.e Tawheed. And why celebrate the birth of Isa (Allaihe Salam) and forget the other 24 Prophets who are mentioned in Quran by name? And why in the hell we need to celebrate the birth of OUR Prophet Isa (Allaihe Salam) with Christians, as Christians believes him to be the Son of God and not a Prophet. Why the hell Dr. Padri never ever celebrated it with their fellow Muslims? Conclusively significance of the 'Birth of Isa' is NOT the same as significance of 'Christmas'. This can go on and on and on! You can read the detailed debate here; Orkut - Tests For Minhajians

چلیے آپ کہتے ہیں کہ خواب سے عقائد ثابت نہیں ہوتے، تو حضرت یہ تو پھر آپ تقی عثمانی سے پوچھہئے کہ خواب بیان کیوں کیا؟ تقی عثمانی نے خواب بیان کیا کہ خواب میں کسی بزرگ نے دیکھا کہ حضور فرما رہے ہیں کہ پاکستان پر عذاب آنے والا ہے، لہذا اس عذاب سے بچنے کے لیے ستر ہزار بار سورۃ شمس کی تلاوت کریں۔ مزید تقی عثمانی نے یہ بھی کہا کہ چونکہ شیطان حضور کی شکل میں نہیں آسکتا لہذا یہ خواب سچا ہے۔ سو کہنے کا مقصد یہ کہ آپ کے تقی عثمانی نے اس خواب کو سچا مانا، حضور کی بیان کردہ پاکستان پر عذاب کی پیشنگوئی کو سچا مانا تبھی تو سورۃ شمس کی تلاوت کی تلقین لوگوں کو کی۔ اب آئیے آپ کے دیگر سوالات کی طرف۔ اصولی طور پر تو آپ کو یہ سوالات تقی عثمانی سے کرنے چاہیے تھے۔ خیر آپ کی آسانی کے لیے آپ کی مدد کیے دیتے ہیں۔ 1۔ یوں بے پیندے کے لوٹے کی طرح تو دیوبندی حضرات زمانے سے لڑھک رہے ہیں۔ ایک طرف آپ کہتے ہیں کہ دیوبندی حیات نبوی کے منکر نہیں دوسری طرف تقویتہ الایمان میں نبی کو مر کر مٹی میں ملنے والا لکھنے والے اسماعیل دہلوی کو اپنے اکابرین میں بھی گنتے ہیں۔ 2۔ نقطہ نمبر 2 میں‌ حضور کا وصال کے بعد بھی اپنی امت کے حال سے باخبر ہونے کی بات ہے جبکہ نقطہ نمبر 3 میں آئندہ کے حالات کی خبر دینے یعنی حضور کے علم غیب کی بات ہے۔ صاف سلیس اردو میں‌ لکھا ہے۔ خدا جانے اس میں کون سی مشکل بات تھی جو آپ سمجھ نہ سکے۔ 3۔ کیا اس سے آپ کی یہ مراد ہے کہ علم غیب کی اصطلاح اللہ کے سوا کسی اور کے لیے استعمال کرنا غلط ہے۔ اگر ایسا ہے تو جا کر اشرف تھانوی کی قبر پر جوتے برسائیے جو زید و عمر، صبی و مجنون، جمیع حیوانات و بہائم تک کے لئے علم غیب کی اصطلاح‌ استعمال کرچکے۔ معارف الاقرآن میں آپ کے مفسر رسول اللہ کے علم غیب کے متعلق تقضائے ادب کا عنوان قائم کرکے تفصیل لکھتے ہیں۔ نیز آپ یہ کہتے ہیں کہ اطلاع غیب کے ہم دیوبندی قائل ہیں۔ اطلاع و اظہار غیب ذریعہ علم ہیں اور جب ان کا ثبوت قرآن سے پایا جائے تو لامحالہ ان کا مسب یعنی علم بھی ثابت ہو جائے گا۔ تعلیم کا مطاوع اور لازم علم ہے، جب احکام شرع اور علم غیب کی تعلیم ثابت اور آپ خود اس کے قائل بھی تو پھر رہ ہی کیا جاتا ہے؟ اللہ نے تعلیم دی تو پھر تعلیم خداوندی پر علم کا مترتب نہ ہونا محال ہے۔ لہذا حضور کے لیے علم الاحکام اور علم غیب بھی ثابت ہوا۔ 4۔ یہ سوال تو آپ اپنے تقی عثمانی سے کرنا چاہیئے۔ ہم آپ کے توسل سے تقی عثمانی کے جواب کے منتظر رہیں گے۔ آگے آپ نے عام بوکھلائے ہوئے دیوبندی کی طرح کچھ نہ بن پڑنے پر اعلیٰحضرت پر اعتراض کر ڈالا۔ آپ نے ملفوضات کا جو حوالہ دیا اس میں کسی طرح‌ بھی علم کی نفی نہیں ثابت نہیں‌ ہوتی۔ توجہ کا نہ ہونا علم کی نفی ثابت نہیں کرتا۔ اور اس طرح کا یہ پہلا اعتراض بھی نہیں۔ اچھا یہ بتائیے کہ جبرائیل اللہ کے حکم سے ہی آئے تھے، تو پھر کیا نعوذباللہ اللہ کو بھی خبر نہ تھی کہ حضور کے گھر میں‌ کتا موجود ہے؟ ظاہر ہے کہ اللہ علیم و خبیر ہے تو پھر جبرائیل سے پہلے ہی ،جس دن اگلے دن حاضر ہونے کا وعدہ کیا اسی دن کیوں نہ بتلا دیا کہ حضور جس گھر میں‌ تصویر یا کتا ہو اس میں فرشتہ نہیں‌ آتے۔ اس طرح‌ کے بیشتر مغالطے دے کر دیوبندی نے اپنی بگڑی بنانے کی کوششیں کی ہیں‌ لیکن سبھی ناکام۔ جیسا کہ دیوبندی اعتراض کرتے ہیں کہ اگر حضور کو علم غیب ہوتا تو بئرمعونہ کے منافقین کے ہاتھوں دھوکے سے 70 صحابہ کو شہید ہونے سے بچا لیتے۔ یہاں بھی وہی معاملہ ہے۔ علم حضور کو بھی تھا کہ رضا الہٰی یہی ہے کہ ان اصحاب کی شہادت کا وقت آگیا ہے، لیکن راضی برضا تھے۔ ورنہ تو اللہ علیم و خبیر ہے، اللہ نے کیوں‌ وحی بھیج کر نہ روکا؟ پھر کچھ دیوبندی ام المومنین حضرت سیدہ عائشہ صدیقہ کے ہار کی گمشدگی کے واقعے کے حوالے سے ثابت کرنے کی کوشش کرتے ہیں کہ رسول اللہ کو علم غیب نہیں تھا ورنہ اسی وقت بتا دیتے۔ بیان نہ کرنا یا نہ بتانا اس بات کی دلیل کبھی نہیں ہوتا کہ علم ہی نہیں۔ نہ بتانے میں بھی بہت حکمتیں پوشیدہ ہوتی ہیں۔ حضور نے بتایا اس لئے نہیں کہ مرضیِ الہٰی یہی تھی کہ سیدہ عائشہ صدیقہ کا ہار گم ہو، مسلمان ہار کی تلاش میں رکیں، ظہر کا وقت آئے اور پانی نہ ملنے پر صحابہ آپ سے پوچھیں کہ رسول اللہ اب کیا کریں، تب آیت تیمم نازل ہو۔ جس سے سیدہ عائشہ صدیقہ کی عظمت قیامت تک مسلمانوں کو معلوم ہوکہ ان کے طفیل ہمیں تیمم کا حکم ملا۔ یہ بھلا کیسے ممکن کہ رسول اللہ جن سے صدیقِ اکبر کے ایمان کا رتبہ نہ چھپا ہو اور فرمائیں کہ ابوبکر کا ایمان قیامت تک کے تمام امتیوں کے ایمان کے ساتھ تولا جائے تو بھاری ہے (نور الابصار) وہ اونٹ کے نیچے چھپا ہار نہ دیکھ پائیں۔

Finally Minhajians and lovers of this Dr. Padri made a move and now the earlier posted video are removed from Youtube, but none of them dared to come here and debate/discuss this issue. All they did so far is cussing me by lame arguments and private messages on youtube. Anways, the videos are up again. I have fixed the links in first post. The links for the books will soon be fixed as well

Awwal tu yaha behs Hazir-o-Nazir ke masle per ho hi nahi rahi, aap aiwaiye iss maslay ko beech mein ghaseet laye. Ab iss maslay ko utha hi lya tu pehlay apnay mullao ki bhi khabar le lijiye pehlay. Mureed ye yaqeen se jan le ke Sheikh ki ruh aik hi makaan mein muqeed nahi. Mureed jaha kahi bhi ho, durr ho ya nazdeek, agar'chay woh Sheikh se durr hai lekin Sheikh ki rohaniyat durr nahi hai. Jab ye baat pakki hai tu mureed ko chahiye ke Sheikh ko her waqt yaad rakhay aur qalbi taluqq paida kare aur her waqt faida hasil kare. (Imdad-us-Sulook, pg 10) Ye tu aap ke mulla jee Sheikh ke maqaam bata rahe hain, tu zahir hai Imam-ul-Anbiya ka maqaam tu aur bhi zyada buland hai. Jab Sheikh apne mureed se itna qareeb tu phir tu Nabi apni Ummat se ba'darja-e-Aula qareeb huway. 3 saal kamil hazrat Imdad ka chehra mere qalb mein raha hai aur mein ne unn se poochay baghair koi kaam nahi kya, phir josh mein aa kar kehnay lagay, itnay saal Hazrat Muhammad mere qalb mein rahe aur mein ne koi baat baghair Aap ke poochay nahi ki. (Arwah-e-Salasa, 290) Ab ye 3 saal Huzoor-e-Akram(saw) Gangohi ke qalb mein thay tu phir kya Roza-e-Mubarak khali tha? Baraye'mehr baani pehlay apna aqeeda tafseel se likhein phir agay baat karein gay.

Toheedi bhai.. aap kaha iss bella ko ye saray saboot faraham kar rahay hain? Ye tamaam behes in ki ilmi nehaj se kaafi oonchi hai lihaza in ke sarr se oonchi parwaaz kar ke guzar jaye gi. Koi faida nahi, Deobandi murghi ki aik hi taang per ara rahe ga!

First of all, you asked me for the scan image of the book, now you should know that this book is written in Farsi by the author. So basically you've been provided with what you've asked for. Lets just say, move yourgood-for-nothing-retarded-self and try some Deobandi scholar for the translation. 1) Jo aqeeda Ismail Dehalvi ne likha woh kufriya hai. 2) Agar aisay kufriya aqeeda rakhnay walay ke aqeeday per waqif ho kar bhi koi usay musalman samjhay tu be’shak woh khud be daira-e-islam se kharij hai. 3) Fawaid-e-Fareedia ke jawab mein aap ke munh per aap hi ke mullay Rab Nawaz Manfi ki audio clip mari. Thori ghairat paida kar ke pehlay uss ka jawab dijiye phir naya sawal kijiye ga. 4) Iss ka bhi jawab aap ko yaqeenan mil jaye ga agar aap Rab Nawaz Manfi ki audio ka jawab dein tu. Apni pichli post mein aap ne Deewan-e-Muhammadi ka bhi naam lya tha, uss ka jawab aap ko de dya gaya. Uss per bhi kuch lab'kushai kijiye ga, warna tu phir yehi samjha jaye ga ke Deobandi kuttay aik gali mein bhoonktay hain aur jootay parnay per doosri gali ki taraf bhaag nikaltay hain. Aap ki aik aur paish'karda kitab "Raza Khani Mazhab" ka radd aur issi kitab ke musaniff Moulana Saeed Ahmed Qadri sahab ki taqreer bhi aap ko di thi, uss per bhi aap khamoosh hain. Apnay Sarfaraz Safdar ki Ibaraat-e-Akabir ke phattay cheethray yaha se uthana na bhooliye ga. Ibaraat-e-Akabir ka Post-Mortem

Janab aap ko iss ka jawab kafi baar dya jaa chuka lekin aap murghi ki aik taang ke misdaaq aik hi raag alaapay jaa rahay hain. Aap ke khayal mein shayad aisi bhoondi be'ghairiti dikhanay se aap kuch sabit karne mein kamyaab ho jaye gay tu ye aap ki ghalat'fehmi hai. Aap kehtay hain ke Moulana Umar Acharwi sahab ne likha ke ye kitabein Shah Waliullah ki hain. Lekin iss ke jawab mein jo tafseel aap ko paish ki gai ussper aap ki bolti band hai. Aap ko hawala dya gaya Mehmood Ahmed Barkati ka jo Barelwi nahi, aur unho ne bhi "Al'Balagh ul'Mubeen" ko Shah Waliullah ki taraf mansoob ghalat kitabo mein shumaar kya hai. Miya jee iss tarah andha'dhund sab ko Barelwi qaraar dete rahein gay tu thoray din mein apnay siwa sabhi ko Barelwi paye gay aap . Mein ne tu aap se pehlay hi kaha ke "Al'Balagh ul'Mubeen" per hi tehqeeq paish kijiye, aap ki bolti band hai. Humari taraf se tu aik ghair'janib darana hawala aap ke munh per maara jaa chuka. Hawala tu aap ko Waliullah khandaan se Shah Rafiuddin ke nawasay Moulana Zaheeruddin Syed Ahmed ka bhi dya, kya ye bhi Barelwi thay? Aap ne agar hawala humaray ghar se paish kiya hai tu janab reply mein hum ne bhi hawala Waliullah khandaan se paish kiya hai jis ke jawab mein aap ki bolti band hai. Ab aap bhi kuch himmat kar ke saboot-o-dalail paish karein tu koi baat banay. Humara mouqiff tu Toheedi bhai ki post mein wazeh likha hai jisay aap ab tak nazar'andaaz hi kar rahe hain. Aur mien tu samjha tha aap ko kam hi sahi magar kuch tu ilm ho ga. Aap likhtayhain ke "ap kay aik motbar member nay fatawa diya", fatwa kisne de dya janab? Aap ko yaha Muftiyo ka aisa mayaar paya jata hoga hum Ahle'Sunnah mein Mufti ka aik maqaam hai. So humaray liye hujjat kisi mustanadd Mufti ka fatwa hoga na ke kisi user ki kahi baat. Aap baat kar rahey hain RadiatingAli ki, jinho ke aap ke samnay aap ke chaheetay Ismail Dehalvi ko khasa rageeda, aur usay kafir qarar dya. Jis ke jawab mein aap ne unn se Ismail Dehalvi ke kufr per kisi Mufti ka Fatwa talb kya. Tu janab Ismail Dehalvi ko kafir kyu nahi qaraar dya, iss per aik alehda topic moujod hai. Rahi baat RadiantingAli bhai ne kyu kafir kaha tu iss ki 2 wajohaat ho sakti hain. Ya tu RadiatingAli ke paas Ismail Dehalvi ki taubah ke qoul ke khilaaf koi qoul moujod hai (taubah ke khilaaf ka qoul tu khud Gangohi se bhi milta hai), ya phir woh ghalati per hain. Ya phir ye bhi mumkin hai ke RadiatingAli Luzoom-o-Iltizaam-e-Kufr ko samajhnay ya samjhaanay mein ghalti per hun. Beher'haal her soorat mein unn ki raye Ahle'Sunnah ke liye hujjat nahi. Allah hi janay ke aap ko kya baat nazar aa gai RadiatingAli meinke aap ne unhay Mufti samajh lya, aur thora zyada takfir ki hoti Ismail Dehalvi ki tu shayad aap RadiatingAli ke haath choom kar bayt hi ho jatay. 1) Aankhein khool kar parhiye, Moulana Umar Acharwi ne"Hayat-e-Tayyaba" ka qoul naql kya hai. 2) Jab Shah Waliullah ki kitaboo mein tehreefat hoti rahein tu ab ye kaisay kaha ja sakta hai ke Shah Waliullah ke Farsi Tarjuma-e-Quran mein tehreef nahihuwi? Doosray topic ki babat mein ne aap ko yaad'dihani karwai thi. Behtar yehi hogake uss topic ko wahi discuss karein, so jawab wahi parh lijiye ga.

Aagaye wapis aap. Mein tu samjha phir aik bawla thappar khaa ke race ho gaya. Chaliye bekaar si hi sahi jawabi post tu ki aap ne. Janab awwal tu "lali poop" nahi lollipop hota hai. "Lali poop" tu ghaliban aap najdi bachay khatay hongay, lali = surkh, poop = najasat. Khair asal maslay per aiye. Aap ne bayan kya ke jo Barelwi nahi woh achi tarah jantay hain ke Al'Balagh ul'Mubeen kis ki kitab hai, lekin poori post mein kahi bhi bataya nahi ke kis ki kitab hai, mera matlab hai ke na koi saboot na koi daleel. Aur waisay bhi kisi ke jannay ya mannay se tu kuch sabit nahi hona, tu ab aap thori si mehnat kar ke Al'Balagh ul'Mubeen ke musannif per apni tehqeeq paish kar dijiye. Umeed hai ke agli Eid se pehlay aap apni tehqeeq paish kar hi dein gay. Aur rahi baat Shah Ismail per fatway ki, tu itna tu aap bhi jantay hon gay ke Fatwa dena Mufti ka kaam hota hai aur jaha tak mujhay maloom hai yaha iss forum per koi Mufti sahab nahi moujod, aur agar hain tu bhi ba'zabta fatway ke liye tu aap ko sail ban kar sawal bhaijna hi paray ga. Tu behtar tareeqa tu ye hai ke aap kisi Sunni Darul Ifta se apna sawal likh kar fatwa mangwa lein. Lekin masla yehi hai ke aap se kuch hota nahi. Aap ki auqaat bus itni hi hai ke aap her thoray din ke waqfay ke baad koi naya shoosha choor kar dobara apnay bill mein ghuss jatay hain. Ab dekhiye aap hi ne 2 topics aur bhi start kiye aur dono per hi aap se jawab matloob hai lekin aap waha se faraar hain. Na aap se jawab diya jaa raha hai ke "Moinuddin Ajmeri" kaun hain? Aur na hi "Kia sach kia jhoot" walay topic mein aap se kuch bola jaa raha hai. Ye hai aap ke zaati ilmi auqaat.

Allama Saeed Ahmed Qadri ki kitab "Raza Khani Mazhab" ka bhi aap ne naam dya tha. Tu uss ka jawab yaha parh lijiye ga tafseel se, Khalil Rana Sahib ki post # 17 mein; Allama Saeed Ahmed Qadri (Sabiqa Deobandi) ki Kitab Ka Radd Allama Saeed Ahmed Qadri jo ke deobandi ganday mazhab per lanat bhaij kar ab Alhumdulillah Sunni ban chukay hain, un ki taqreer bhi sun lijiye ga iss link per. Allama Saeed Ahmed Qadri (Sabiqa Deobandi) Ki Taqreer Abhi itnay se kaam chalaiye, baqi jootay aap ko baad mein maroo ga...

Janab aap ne pehlay tu Fuzla-e-Deoband ki kitabo ki list bata di, ke inn mein Barelwiyo ki gustakhiya dekh li jaye, mein ne jawaban kaha ke inn mein se kafi kutb ka tu jawab kitabi shikal mein market mein dastyaab hai. Phir mein ne aap ki asaani ke liye aik aur tajweez paish kar di aap ne jin kutb ka naam likha hai, iss mein se aap ko Barelwiyo ki jo sab se bari gustakhi lagti hai ussay yaha post kar dein aur hum se jawab lein lay. Aap ne meri post ka jawab dene ke bajaye Qadri Attari bhai ki post ka jawab dya woh bhi ajab rangeela kism ka. Usooli tour per tu aap ko chahiye tha ke aap meri post ke reply mein inn kutb se humari sab se bari gustakhi yaha post kar dete, lekin ye aap se na huwa. Shayad iss liye ke aap ne khud ye kitabein poori tarah se nahi parhien ya phir aap ko darr hai ke kahi aiteraaz kar ke aap ki durgatt na ban jaye. Ab aap aik naya mamlaa utha kar Fawaid-e-Fareedia aur Diwan-e-Muhammadi waghaira per aa gaye. Chaliye yaha bhi aap ki tasalli ka saman kiye dete hain. Pehlay tu aap ke apnay 2 numberi jhootay khabees mullay Rab Nawaz Manfi ka hi qoul naql kiye deta hun, mumkin hai ye thappar ta'qayamat aap ke munh ko surkh rakhay ga. rabnawaz.mp3 Aap ko agar ye audio jaali ya jhooti lagti tu forun se bataiye takay hum aap ke bhai deobanddefender ko jootay maraein kyu ke ye audio aik youtube ki video se extract ki gai hai jo aap ke deobanddefender hi nay youtube per saja kar lagai hai. Mazeed ye ke Fawaid-e-Fareedia aur iss tarah ki doosri kitabo ka humaray Ulema ne khul kar kitabo mein bhi radd kya hai, yaha mein sirf chota sa hawala de raha hun, Aur ghaliban iss per shayad Ala Hazrat ka fatwa bhi mojoud hai, koi bhai jald hi woh bhi faraham kar dein gay. Yak'rozi ka scan aap ne manga tha ye lijiye; Aur aap ne Fawaid-e-Fareedia ke baad Diwan-e-Muhammadi ka bhi zikr kya hai aur kisi teesri kitaab ka bhi kaha jis ka naam mujhay iss thread mein tu kahi nazar nahi aa raha, dobara likh dijiye zara. Aur Diwan-e-Muhammadi per aap ko aiteraaz kya hai woh bhi likh dete tu aur asani hoti. Filhaal tu Ghazali-e-Zama Hazrat Allama Moulana Syed Ahmed Saeed Shah Kazmi ka jawab parh lijiye.

Bella miya, humein maloom hai ke aap mein itni tehzeeb hai hi nahi ke aap kisi Ahle'Sunnah ke alim ka naam tameez se likhien. Aap ki jo post edit ki gai hai uss mein editing ka reason bhi define kya huwa hai, so ye bekaar ka roona band kijiye, aur aap se jis baat ka mutaliba kya jaa raha hai ussay poora karne per mehnat kijiye. Humein umeed hai ke aap jald hi hawalajaat ke saath bataye gay ke ye Moinuddin Ajmeri kaun hain.

Nahi janab, Alhamdulillah Ala Hazrat ne Firqa-e-Zaaghiya Mardoodiya Deobandiya ka radd hi kya hai. Humare maslak mein kawwa khana sawab nahi, balkay sirf aik khaas kism ka zaagh halaal hai, aur halaal ke maani ye bhi nahi ke uss ke khanay se sawab hoga. Aaiye ab aap ko tafseel bhi samjha don. Aap ne jo scan paish kiya uss mein wazeh tour per Kawway ki aik khaas kism ki baat ki jaa rahi hai, jo ke sirf dana hi chugta hai, maslan jaisay ki murghi chugti hai, ye kawwa fiqh-e-Hanafi mein jayaz hai so isay jayaz hi likha hai. Yaad rahay halaal ko halaal likha hai, SAWAB nahi likha. Jab ke aap ke Zaaghiya Mardoodiya Gangohi ke fatwa ke mutabiq "Zaagh-e-Maroofa" jo aam bastiyo mein paya jata hai usay khana na sirf Halaal balkay Sawab likha hai. Sawab kamanay ka iss se asaan rasta mere khayal mein deobandiyo ke liye aur koi na hoga iss liye forun Kawwo ki nasal'kashi shuru kar dijiye, thori humari bhi jaan chootay gi in kawwo ki kaye kaye se. Behr'haal deobandiyo ki kawwa'khoori per aik tafseeli topic alehda se moujod hai. http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?/topic/2094-kawwa-khana-kaisa/ Ab mazeed agar Deobandiyo ki kawwa khoori per guftugo karni ho tu iss topic per kijiye ga. Aik hi masla alag alag topic mein discuss karna be'waqoofi hai jis ki ijazat nahi di jaa sakti. Iss liye ab iss topic mein aap ki Kawwa'khori per mabni posts baghair warning delete kar di jai gi. Koi naya masla ya naya aiteraaz paish karna hai tu zaroor post kijiye ga.

Sharm aur ghairat kin hazrat mein na'paid hai ye tu wazeh nazar aa raha hai. Apnay aap ko hi dekh lijiye aap. Mere baad wali post ka reply kar diya aap ne lekin meri post ka bhi tak koi reply nahi. Aur jo reply aap ne post kya woh bhi topic se hatt kar. Ab aiye aap ke post kiye huway image ko dekhtay hain. Awwal tu ye bataiye ke aap ke nazdeek mustanadd baat kisi Mufti ya Aalim ki hogi ya phir awaam ki? Chaliye aap ko agar confusion tu jaa kar apnay kisi Deobandi Mufti se hi pooch lijiye ke aisay masail mein kis ki baat mutabirr, jawab aap ko waha se bhi yehi milay ga ke Mufti ya Alim ka qoul qubool karein. So kehnay ka maqsad ye ke infiraadi raye se kuch sabit nahi hota. Agar iss tarah ke infiraadi qoul ko hi fatwa samajh liye tu phir tu mere paas deobandiyo ke kaafi lateefay jama hain, kahein tu post karo? Haa aap ke paas agar kisi Sunni Mufti ya Alim ka iss tarah ka qoul hai tu zaroor paish kijiye, basoorat-e-deegar ye chichooray scans dikhanay se kuch sabit nahi hona. Aur aap ka tu scan bhi mujhay mashkook lag raha hai. Scan mein jo sahab jawab de rahay hain unn ka naam dikh raha hai "Riaz Shahid", jab ke sawal kya gaya tha kisi "Dear Rashid Sab" se. Mazeed ye ke aankhein khool kar dhekien tu "Yahoo Mail" ke side panel mein se koi bhi box selected nahi and thats not possible because when you read, you gotta go in the Inbox/Drafts/Sent or wherever the mail is located, and in the snapshot none of the folders are sleceted . Check the snaps below Now take a look how a real snapshot looks like Hope you can see the difference here